Krueger reacts to Poch departure - official statement

Ralph Krueger

Ralph Krueger

First published in Sport

Saints chairman Ralph Krueger has insisted Saints will continue to grow despite the departure of Mauricio Pochettino.

Pochettino has resigned from Saints and signed a five year deal to take over as manager of Tottenham.

The Saints board are coming in for criticism of their handling of the affair and that may intensify after Krueger's statement which has not addressed why this has happened, rather tried to put a brave face on it.

He said: "The Club has been on a constant path of growth since the arrival of Markus Liebherr in 2009.

"This growth took place before Mauricio came, it continued strongly under his leadership, and it will continue into the next season.

"The Board’s job is to find opportunity in this challenge and to continue to move the Club forward.

“We have begun the search for a new high-calibre manager

"We will be looking for a manager that shares our values, our principles and our philosophy; a manager who can continue to grow the First Team and build on our strong foundation – a foundation led by an ambitious vision and plan that continues to build on our world-class academy, our amazing 129-year heritage and our excellent staff, and rewards our loyal and passionate fan base."

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6:10pm Tue 27 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

I've not been so disappointed in a Southampton Chairman since Rupert Lowe was at the club seems chaimen with the first names Ralph and Rupert can not be trusted to protect our club. Please can someone new come in and buy KL out
I've not been so disappointed in a Southampton Chairman since Rupert Lowe was at the club seems chaimen with the first names Ralph and Rupert can not be trusted to protect our club. Please can someone new come in and buy KL out upwherewebelong
  • Score: -37

6:13pm Tue 27 May 14

Glenn(Leeds) says...

What a load of bullocks
What a load of bullocks Glenn(Leeds)
  • Score: -1

6:14pm Tue 27 May 14

damoose says...

We should bring back ` Lucky Nige` to finish what he started..Pooch only put Nige`s players in different positions,they were still all Nigels players except for Osvaldo.let`s not forget Adkins was on the verge of turning things around before he was sacked..if not then we go for the Great Bisela himself,and get the master instead of one of his mercenary pupil`s
We should bring back ` Lucky Nige` to finish what he started..Pooch only put Nige`s players in different positions,they were still all Nigels players except for Osvaldo.let`s not forget Adkins was on the verge of turning things around before he was sacked..if not then we go for the Great Bisela himself,and get the master instead of one of his mercenary pupil`s damoose
  • Score: -15

6:14pm Tue 27 May 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

What a complete joke...we want a manager who shares our philosophy???...want a manager happy to grow players and accept we will sell them for a profit. I have lost total faith in this complete bunch of clowns
What a complete joke...we want a manager who shares our philosophy???...want a manager happy to grow players and accept we will sell them for a profit. I have lost total faith in this complete bunch of clowns Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: -11

6:15pm Tue 27 May 14

costa gaz says...

Empty words Ralph
Empty words Ralph costa gaz
  • Score: 23

6:15pm Tue 27 May 14

Scarborosaint says...

Wish MP all the best but no one man is bigger than the club and it was inevitable . Not sure what club, chairmen or owner is supposed to do if someone wants to go to a bigger club. Too many people with short memories can remember Leeds stretching themselves running before they could walk and look where it got them. We are at present a mid table premiership team with ambition not an established top 6 team , not being negative just realistic. Only hope we make a shift appointment and the right one for the club . Michael Laudrop or yukin for me ??
Wish MP all the best but no one man is bigger than the club and it was inevitable . Not sure what club, chairmen or owner is supposed to do if someone wants to go to a bigger club. Too many people with short memories can remember Leeds stretching themselves running before they could walk and look where it got them. We are at present a mid table premiership team with ambition not an established top 6 team , not being negative just realistic. Only hope we make a shift appointment and the right one for the club . Michael Laudrop or yukin for me ?? Scarborosaint
  • Score: 54

6:17pm Tue 27 May 14

Butt_the_nut says...

Im done with saints now!!!! ive had enough of holding my head in my hands every week because we are fighting relegation. Bye bye Shaw and Lallana and Clyne and Schneiderlin oh and your welcome. Traitors the lot of you including MP
Im done with saints now!!!! ive had enough of holding my head in my hands every week because we are fighting relegation. Bye bye Shaw and Lallana and Clyne and Schneiderlin oh and your welcome. Traitors the lot of you including MP Butt_the_nut
  • Score: -49

6:18pm Tue 27 May 14

Golden_Salamander says...

Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it.
The bloke has NO idea how to run a Football Club or what to say.
Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. The bloke has NO idea how to run a Football Club or what to say. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 12

6:19pm Tue 27 May 14

Butt_the_nut says...

Butt_the_nut wrote:
Im done with saints now!!!! ive had enough of holding my head in my hands every week because we are fighting relegation. Bye bye Shaw and Lallana and Clyne and Schneiderlin oh and your welcome. Traitors the lot of you including MP
Oh and one more thing, the job centre will be waiting come Jan/Feb time when you get sacked by Levy
[quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Im done with saints now!!!! ive had enough of holding my head in my hands every week because we are fighting relegation. Bye bye Shaw and Lallana and Clyne and Schneiderlin oh and your welcome. Traitors the lot of you including MP[/p][/quote]Oh and one more thing, the job centre will be waiting come Jan/Feb time when you get sacked by Levy Butt_the_nut
  • Score: 15

6:20pm Tue 27 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Too little,too late Ralph..sorry.
Too little,too late Ralph..sorry. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 9

6:21pm Tue 27 May 14

Scarborosaint says...

Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous . Scarborosaint
  • Score: 36

6:22pm Tue 27 May 14

KSO16R says...

Get over it and carry on supporting saints.
Get over it and carry on supporting saints. KSO16R
  • Score: 62

6:22pm Tue 27 May 14

Butt_the_nut says...

Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh Butt_the_nut
  • Score: -29

6:23pm Tue 27 May 14

Butt_the_nut says...

KSO16R wrote:
Get over it and carry on supporting saints.
We'll see in 12 months time
[quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Get over it and carry on supporting saints.[/p][/quote]We'll see in 12 months time Butt_the_nut
  • Score: 10

6:24pm Tue 27 May 14

only1chopper says...

we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke?
Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.
we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke? Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers. only1chopper
  • Score: 18

6:24pm Tue 27 May 14

noodlesnewman says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it.
The bloke has NO idea how to run a Football Club or what to say.
greasy gready disloyal argy bet he d sell his own grand mother to get more bucks . good riddence to the mush who couldnt even speak english ! now come on KL ANd RK sort this mess out hope you was looking for a new man as soon as spuds job came up or are you guys that dumb i wonder ??
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: Every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot in it. The bloke has NO idea how to run a Football Club or what to say.[/p][/quote]greasy gready disloyal argy bet he d sell his own grand mother to get more bucks . good riddence to the mush who couldnt even speak english ! now come on KL ANd RK sort this mess out hope you was looking for a new man as soon as spuds job came up or are you guys that dumb i wonder ?? noodlesnewman
  • Score: 14

6:26pm Tue 27 May 14

chapelsaint says...

As a statement of positivity this is unbelievable bull $#it.
As a statement of positivity this is unbelievable bull $#it. chapelsaint
  • Score: 8

6:28pm Tue 27 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league upwherewebelong
  • Score: -8

6:32pm Tue 27 May 14

Steve_N says...

Very disappointed that he's gone, but we have to move on. No player, manager, coach etc. is bigger than the club, so bu@@er off Poch. I understand you've signed a 5 year deal - no chance of seeing that out. We don't know what went on behind the scenes at St Mary's in regard to trying to keep him but clearly we couldn't (or maybe wouldn't) match what Spurs put on the table, whatever that was. Can't say I wish him well, because I don't!
The board has to appoint a new man asap - Laudrup? I'll probably be shot down in flames but how about Benitez - Paddy Power have him at 8-1. Maybe, just maybe, with him we could keep most, if not all, of our top players. Whoever comes in will give us a strong indication of the intentions long term, of the board and KL.
STID
Very disappointed that he's gone, but we have to move on. No player, manager, coach etc. is bigger than the club, so bu@@er off Poch. I understand you've signed a 5 year deal - no chance of seeing that out. We don't know what went on behind the scenes at St Mary's in regard to trying to keep him but clearly we couldn't (or maybe wouldn't) match what Spurs put on the table, whatever that was. Can't say I wish him well, because I don't! The board has to appoint a new man asap - Laudrup? I'll probably be shot down in flames but how about Benitez - Paddy Power have him at 8-1. Maybe, just maybe, with him we could keep most, if not all, of our top players. Whoever comes in will give us a strong indication of the intentions long term, of the board and KL. STID Steve_N
  • Score: 43

6:35pm Tue 27 May 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

Anyone fancy Hoddle as new manager? Can work with the younger player and is a good manager
Anyone fancy Hoddle as new manager? Can work with the younger player and is a good manager Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: -25

6:36pm Tue 27 May 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

Very symbolic that the photo shows Krueger in front of banks of empty seats. Maybe MP always planned to leave since Nicola left, but the Board seem to be out of their depth with negotiations with manager and players. So we are going to lose the heart of our young, dynamic team, and bring in a new manager with less talent. This chap Yakin seems to tick all the right boxes (Swiss connection...) but my money is on Katharina choosing a cheaper Swiss option - Christian Gross.
Very symbolic that the photo shows Krueger in front of banks of empty seats. Maybe MP always planned to leave since Nicola left, but the Board seem to be out of their depth with negotiations with manager and players. So we are going to lose the heart of our young, dynamic team, and bring in a new manager with less talent. This chap Yakin seems to tick all the right boxes (Swiss connection...) but my money is on Katharina choosing a cheaper Swiss option - Christian Gross. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: -10

6:37pm Tue 27 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Good riddance splitter. He has proved he had no allegiance to the club. Hope he fails big time at the Spuds. Move on. Onwards and upwards. Bring on next season, hopefully with a manager who respects the club and the fans.
Good riddance splitter. He has proved he had no allegiance to the club. Hope he fails big time at the Spuds. Move on. Onwards and upwards. Bring on next season, hopefully with a manager who respects the club and the fans. Clever Dick
  • Score: 38

6:37pm Tue 27 May 14

Butt_the_nut says...

KL go and tell your best friend Rupert Lowe that its a job well done!!!
KL go and tell your best friend Rupert Lowe that its a job well done!!! Butt_the_nut
  • Score: -28

6:38pm Tue 27 May 14

Butt_the_nut says...

KL go and tell your best friend Rupert Lowe that its job well done and mission complete
KL go and tell your best friend Rupert Lowe that its job well done and mission complete Butt_the_nut
  • Score: -25

6:39pm Tue 27 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

(With apologies for cross-posting)

So there it is.

Thank you, MP, for 1 1/2 seasons of progress and goodbye. I wish you neither good nor bad at Spurs, you'll reap what you sow.

If the Board wants to avoid losing confidence, it's time for the Board to issue a full and factual statement as to what is happening regarding the manager's post and regarding all players being linked with moves.

Now, moving on, my team's still here, so when does the 2014-5 fixture list come out and can I have one of those season tickets that some (Butt the nut, I'm talking to people like you) have threatened to throw away on the back of MP's departure?
(With apologies for cross-posting) So there it is. Thank you, MP, for 1 1/2 seasons of progress and goodbye. I wish you neither good nor bad at Spurs, you'll reap what you sow. If the Board wants to avoid losing confidence, it's time for the Board to issue a full and factual statement as to what is happening regarding the manager's post and regarding all players being linked with moves. Now, moving on, my team's still here, so when does the 2014-5 fixture list come out and can I have one of those season tickets that some (Butt the nut, I'm talking to people like you) have threatened to throw away on the back of MP's departure? Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 33

6:40pm Tue 27 May 14

costa gaz says...

Accounts for summer 2014;

Premier league and Sky money £115m
season tickets £10m
transfers out £225m
Other £5m

Total £355m

total spend;
Transfers in £12m
wages £100m


Net profit £243m

*estimate only, based on recent analysis by merchant of doom*

This company would be deemed to be a huge success in any other market.
Accounts for summer 2014; Premier league and Sky money £115m season tickets £10m transfers out £225m Other £5m Total £355m total spend; Transfers in £12m wages £100m Net profit £243m *estimate only, based on recent analysis by merchant of doom* This company would be deemed to be a huge success in any other market. costa gaz
  • Score: 9

6:40pm Tue 27 May 14

Scarborosaint says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league
I can remember back to the early 70s !!! And what exactly are the board supposed to do if the manager will not sign a new contract and he only has a year left on his contract. He was offered a new improved contract to be the highest paid saints manager ever but unfortunately there is no loyalty in football now both from clubs or managers or players for that matter. And to compare it to hoddles departure is crazy. Hoddle was a spurs legend and to be offered to be manager of your home town club so to speak meant we would never keep him , even if Lowe was a complete t#sser.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league[/p][/quote]I can remember back to the early 70s !!! And what exactly are the board supposed to do if the manager will not sign a new contract and he only has a year left on his contract. He was offered a new improved contract to be the highest paid saints manager ever but unfortunately there is no loyalty in football now both from clubs or managers or players for that matter. And to compare it to hoddles departure is crazy. Hoddle was a spurs legend and to be offered to be manager of your home town club so to speak meant we would never keep him , even if Lowe was a complete t#sser. Scarborosaint
  • Score: 33

6:42pm Tue 27 May 14

bitterne barry says...

Well he has gone but Mr Krueger please be more open and give us details of what the Saints were prepared to offer him, such as new salary and how much would be avaliable to purchase new players I appreciate the fact that we could not match Spurs offer but I am sure that the regular fans would like to know how far you were prepared to go.
Well he has gone but Mr Krueger please be more open and give us details of what the Saints were prepared to offer him, such as new salary and how much would be avaliable to purchase new players I appreciate the fact that we could not match Spurs offer but I am sure that the regular fans would like to know how far you were prepared to go. bitterne barry
  • Score: 18

6:42pm Tue 27 May 14

bigfella777 says...

If you had excellent staff like Dodds why did you sack them then?
Maybe Ralph is going to get his brother Freddy to come and manage the team.
I can hear the boos ringing out already.
If you had excellent staff like Dodds why did you sack them then? Maybe Ralph is going to get his brother Freddy to come and manage the team. I can hear the boos ringing out already. bigfella777
  • Score: -7

6:43pm Tue 27 May 14

Crispinmumbles says...

Stop blaming the wrong person, this is Pochettino's repayment to Saints for giving him a second chance as a manager. Sod him.
Stop blaming the wrong person, this is Pochettino's repayment to Saints for giving him a second chance as a manager. Sod him. Crispinmumbles
  • Score: 47

6:45pm Tue 27 May 14

saints80 says...

What is clear is that the new board have failed to comply with their promises. They clearly offered no reassurence to Poch in confirming we would keep our best players and as a result he is off. That is unless the offer for Poch was too good to turn down. I would not be surprised if our biggest assests in Lallana, Shaw, Spiderman and Clyne are sold. This is clearly the boards ambition. So sad to see this happen after such a successful season. Same old story, we produce the best players and the same old clubs poach them from us. Sam with Spurs always poaching our manager.
In Spurs i
cannot
understand
nor
trust
What is clear is that the new board have failed to comply with their promises. They clearly offered no reassurence to Poch in confirming we would keep our best players and as a result he is off. That is unless the offer for Poch was too good to turn down. I would not be surprised if our biggest assests in Lallana, Shaw, Spiderman and Clyne are sold. This is clearly the boards ambition. So sad to see this happen after such a successful season. Same old story, we produce the best players and the same old clubs poach them from us. Sam with Spurs always poaching our manager. In Spurs i cannot understand nor trust saints80
  • Score: -4

6:46pm Tue 27 May 14

jls217 says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Wish MP all the best but no one man is bigger than the club and it was inevitable . Not sure what club, chairmen or owner is supposed to do if someone wants to go to a bigger club. Too many people with short memories can remember Leeds stretching themselves running before they could walk and look where it got them. We are at present a mid table premiership team with ambition not an established top 6 team , not being negative just realistic. Only hope we make a shift appointment and the right one for the club . Michael Laudrop or yukin for me ??
Thank goodness there's somebody out there capable of rational thought. The others posting here need to ask themselves questions.

We look forward to a new manager and a few more players in with possibly a few going out. That's what happens in football people. Next season will be the best ever, stop the negative, over emotional carp please.
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Wish MP all the best but no one man is bigger than the club and it was inevitable . Not sure what club, chairmen or owner is supposed to do if someone wants to go to a bigger club. Too many people with short memories can remember Leeds stretching themselves running before they could walk and look where it got them. We are at present a mid table premiership team with ambition not an established top 6 team , not being negative just realistic. Only hope we make a shift appointment and the right one for the club . Michael Laudrop or yukin for me ??[/p][/quote]Thank goodness there's somebody out there capable of rational thought. The others posting here need to ask themselves questions. We look forward to a new manager and a few more players in with possibly a few going out. That's what happens in football people. Next season will be the best ever, stop the negative, over emotional carp please. jls217
  • Score: 8

6:55pm Tue 27 May 14

jls217 says...

Butt_the_nut wrote:
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
I understand your disappointment mate but if you're going to make statements like "Not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to their fans" You should back it up with the evidence.

Who has lied and when - I haven't heard a single lie from anyone of the club officials. Poch could be accused of stretching his version of the truth but nobody else did.

The club spent a lot of money over the last 18 months both in players and in infrastructure costs - please explain to us all how that displays a lack of ambition.

Now calm down dear and put your argument forward in a logical manner and with evidence to back the statement up or take your histrionics and go down the M27 to Fartton Krap and they'll show you thousands of reasons to get really upset over.

I've been following Saints longer than you and us ole timers know we rant and we rave and get depressed on a regular basis but we always turn up next season because next season is always going to be the best ever. You know I'm right.
[quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh[/p][/quote]I understand your disappointment mate but if you're going to make statements like "Not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to their fans" You should back it up with the evidence. Who has lied and when - I haven't heard a single lie from anyone of the club officials. Poch could be accused of stretching his version of the truth but nobody else did. The club spent a lot of money over the last 18 months both in players and in infrastructure costs - please explain to us all how that displays a lack of ambition. Now calm down dear and put your argument forward in a logical manner and with evidence to back the statement up or take your histrionics and go down the M27 to Fartton Krap and they'll show you thousands of reasons to get really upset over. I've been following Saints longer than you and us ole timers know we rant and we rave and get depressed on a regular basis but we always turn up next season because next season is always going to be the best ever. You know I'm right. jls217
  • Score: 14

7:00pm Tue 27 May 14

THE12THMAN says...

Sounds to me like Ralph wants a yes man who can work with a small budget, we'll Ralph I will not be contributing to your budget , I am not willing to line your pockets and get nothing in return. Seems to me you are doing your best to ruin a very good football club,time will tell.
Sounds to me like Ralph wants a yes man who can work with a small budget, we'll Ralph I will not be contributing to your budget , I am not willing to line your pockets and get nothing in return. Seems to me you are doing your best to ruin a very good football club,time will tell. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 2

7:03pm Tue 27 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league
I can remember back to the early 70s !!! And what exactly are the board supposed to do if the manager will not sign a new contract and he only has a year left on his contract. He was offered a new improved contract to be the highest paid saints manager ever but unfortunately there is no loyalty in football now both from clubs or managers or players for that matter. And to compare it to hoddles departure is crazy. Hoddle was a spurs legend and to be offered to be manager of your home town club so to speak meant we would never keep him , even if Lowe was a complete t#sser.
Ok cool I had to pose the question re memory as you never know the age of posters do you. As for your question what are the board supposed to do ? well in my opinion its simple. Refuse the resignation and put MP on gardening leave for 1 year remaining on contract and appoint replacement is one option. Another is the board are supposed to show US the FANS and MP they can match his ambition by refusing ANY offers for ANY of our players. Sadly Krueger doesn't have the mental strength to do this. The issue with him is there is no emotional attachment to SFC. I worry for the club with him at the helm as he doesn't seem to care for us. His statements are in my opinion just empty words
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league[/p][/quote]I can remember back to the early 70s !!! And what exactly are the board supposed to do if the manager will not sign a new contract and he only has a year left on his contract. He was offered a new improved contract to be the highest paid saints manager ever but unfortunately there is no loyalty in football now both from clubs or managers or players for that matter. And to compare it to hoddles departure is crazy. Hoddle was a spurs legend and to be offered to be manager of your home town club so to speak meant we would never keep him , even if Lowe was a complete t#sser.[/p][/quote]Ok cool I had to pose the question re memory as you never know the age of posters do you. As for your question what are the board supposed to do ? well in my opinion its simple. Refuse the resignation and put MP on gardening leave for 1 year remaining on contract and appoint replacement is one option. Another is the board are supposed to show US the FANS and MP they can match his ambition by refusing ANY offers for ANY of our players. Sadly Krueger doesn't have the mental strength to do this. The issue with him is there is no emotional attachment to SFC. I worry for the club with him at the helm as he doesn't seem to care for us. His statements are in my opinion just empty words upwherewebelong
  • Score: -4

7:05pm Tue 27 May 14

milton road says...

The word Judas comes to mind.
I am a bit perplexed that Spurs have sacked two managers with around a 59% ratio and employed one with a 32% win rate. For Poch to reach Europe he has to double his win rate. He was l;ucky with Saints he had a team that gave him their soul. Now he is mixing with so called super stars and hoping to get the same.
I honestly do not see him getting Spurs to the CL and if he doesn't then it will be TaTa.
In fairness Judas knew he was going to go the day Cortese went. Infairness to the board they couldn't say anyhting until Judas actually decided to sign for Spurs. I do hope though they have been identifying who they wanted for the last couple of weeks. In the last six months we have seen a progressive club ripped apart.
Who they employ is most important, the right person can still put the exodus on hold . Yet the truth is if a player wants to go the board can do nothing really to stop him accept enforce the price. One has to admit the board does not fill you with confidence. Suddenly the strength that was evident with Cortese has collapsed.
Someone like Moyes or Laudrup maybe go
Think Poch has jumped from the pot into the fire and will be under constant pressure.
Here he could of evolved his ideas and been given the time to do it. he won't get time at Spurs or patience, CL this season or else.
The word Judas comes to mind. I am a bit perplexed that Spurs have sacked two managers with around a 59% ratio and employed one with a 32% win rate. For Poch to reach Europe he has to double his win rate. He was l;ucky with Saints he had a team that gave him their soul. Now he is mixing with so called super stars and hoping to get the same. I honestly do not see him getting Spurs to the CL and if he doesn't then it will be TaTa. In fairness Judas knew he was going to go the day Cortese went. Infairness to the board they couldn't say anyhting until Judas actually decided to sign for Spurs. I do hope though they have been identifying who they wanted for the last couple of weeks. In the last six months we have seen a progressive club ripped apart. Who they employ is most important, the right person can still put the exodus on hold . Yet the truth is if a player wants to go the board can do nothing really to stop him accept enforce the price. One has to admit the board does not fill you with confidence. Suddenly the strength that was evident with Cortese has collapsed. Someone like Moyes or Laudrup maybe go Think Poch has jumped from the pot into the fire and will be under constant pressure. Here he could of evolved his ideas and been given the time to do it. he won't get time at Spurs or patience, CL this season or else. milton road
  • Score: 12

7:06pm Tue 27 May 14

montecristosaint says...

a really disappointing day for saints worse for me than Poch leaving is the lame ineffectual performance of the club chairman Krueger who is a total misfit at Southampton. As is Les Reed. This truly is another dark age, it is clear what Liebherrs intentions are to strip the club then sell it. She has no real interest in it other than the return she can make. She will make far more selling the club after stripping it than she would if she sold it as a going concern now. I hope for her sake that she completes her business and leaves Southampton before the start of the new season, she is unlikely to be made to feel welcome at St Marys. Anybody who disagrees with this is merely in denial its more than obvious that this is her game plan.The club will issue no further statements explaining the circumstances of Poch s departure because they have no excuse Liebherr simply did not want to invest in new players to challenge for top four. Poch has been promised 50 million at Spurs so that pretty much confirms that Liebherr would not even agree to maintaining expenditure on last year s level.
a really disappointing day for saints worse for me than Poch leaving is the lame ineffectual performance of the club chairman Krueger who is a total misfit at Southampton. As is Les Reed. This truly is another dark age, it is clear what Liebherrs intentions are to strip the club then sell it. She has no real interest in it other than the return she can make. She will make far more selling the club after stripping it than she would if she sold it as a going concern now. I hope for her sake that she completes her business and leaves Southampton before the start of the new season, she is unlikely to be made to feel welcome at St Marys. Anybody who disagrees with this is merely in denial its more than obvious that this is her game plan.The club will issue no further statements explaining the circumstances of Poch s departure because they have no excuse Liebherr simply did not want to invest in new players to challenge for top four. Poch has been promised 50 million at Spurs so that pretty much confirms that Liebherr would not even agree to maintaining expenditure on last year s level. montecristosaint
  • Score: 1

7:14pm Tue 27 May 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

Only thing Ralph and the board can do now is go out and prove to us all that they mean what they say.
Only thing Ralph and the board can do now is go out and prove to us all that they mean what they say. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 13

7:14pm Tue 27 May 14

montecristosaint says...

To the sports editor
Daily Echo

Can we please have an article suggesting that it would be in the best interest of Southampton football club and its fans if the club was now put up for sale given that the owner is refusing to invest further in the club which lets face it is why Pochettino, like Strachan before him , has left, opening the door for all of the clubs better players to be sold off, prior to the sale of the club in the autumn.

Because this is the scenario without doubt Pochettino would not have left had he receivbed the proper assurances with regard to further investment anyone who thinks other wise is a fool.
To the sports editor Daily Echo Can we please have an article suggesting that it would be in the best interest of Southampton football club and its fans if the club was now put up for sale given that the owner is refusing to invest further in the club which lets face it is why Pochettino, like Strachan before him , has left, opening the door for all of the clubs better players to be sold off, prior to the sale of the club in the autumn. Because this is the scenario without doubt Pochettino would not have left had he receivbed the proper assurances with regard to further investment anyone who thinks other wise is a fool. montecristosaint
  • Score: -11

7:16pm Tue 27 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

jls217 wrote:
Butt_the_nut wrote:
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
I understand your disappointment mate but if you're going to make statements like "Not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to their fans" You should back it up with the evidence.

Who has lied and when - I haven't heard a single lie from anyone of the club officials. Poch could be accused of stretching his version of the truth but nobody else did.

The club spent a lot of money over the last 18 months both in players and in infrastructure costs - please explain to us all how that displays a lack of ambition.

Now calm down dear and put your argument forward in a logical manner and with evidence to back the statement up or take your histrionics and go down the M27 to Fartton Krap and they'll show you thousands of reasons to get really upset over.

I've been following Saints longer than you and us ole timers know we rant and we rave and get depressed on a regular basis but we always turn up next season because next season is always going to be the best ever. You know I'm right.
Think I might be speaking out of turn a little but I suspect the poster suggesting about lies is referring to the same Lies I accuse Krueger of which is to more open in the communication with us the fans and also in "doing what is best for Saints" These two statements have in my opinion yet to be backed up with evidence. The difficulty Krueger in my opinion has is he will never be able to have the passion and love for the club us fans do even if we as a group have very different views the one thing we agree on is we love SFC even if the board seem hell bent on going backwards. Just my opinion and bring on the thumbs down but it is my view that KL and Krueger don't have ambition to improve on last years performance they just want stability. I feel new owners are required to make the next push forward. If Reading FC can have two billionnaires interesting in purchasing the club surely we can as well. Right now i'd welcome Cortese back with open arms if he'd even be remotely interested.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh[/p][/quote]I understand your disappointment mate but if you're going to make statements like "Not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to their fans" You should back it up with the evidence. Who has lied and when - I haven't heard a single lie from anyone of the club officials. Poch could be accused of stretching his version of the truth but nobody else did. The club spent a lot of money over the last 18 months both in players and in infrastructure costs - please explain to us all how that displays a lack of ambition. Now calm down dear and put your argument forward in a logical manner and with evidence to back the statement up or take your histrionics and go down the M27 to Fartton Krap and they'll show you thousands of reasons to get really upset over. I've been following Saints longer than you and us ole timers know we rant and we rave and get depressed on a regular basis but we always turn up next season because next season is always going to be the best ever. You know I'm right.[/p][/quote]Think I might be speaking out of turn a little but I suspect the poster suggesting about lies is referring to the same Lies I accuse Krueger of which is to more open in the communication with us the fans and also in "doing what is best for Saints" These two statements have in my opinion yet to be backed up with evidence. The difficulty Krueger in my opinion has is he will never be able to have the passion and love for the club us fans do even if we as a group have very different views the one thing we agree on is we love SFC even if the board seem hell bent on going backwards. Just my opinion and bring on the thumbs down but it is my view that KL and Krueger don't have ambition to improve on last years performance they just want stability. I feel new owners are required to make the next push forward. If Reading FC can have two billionnaires interesting in purchasing the club surely we can as well. Right now i'd welcome Cortese back with open arms if he'd even be remotely interested. upwherewebelong
  • Score: 3

7:19pm Tue 27 May 14

jls217 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
a really disappointing day for saints worse for me than Poch leaving is the lame ineffectual performance of the club chairman Krueger who is a total misfit at Southampton. As is Les Reed. This truly is another dark age, it is clear what Liebherrs intentions are to strip the club then sell it. She has no real interest in it other than the return she can make. She will make far more selling the club after stripping it than she would if she sold it as a going concern now. I hope for her sake that she completes her business and leaves Southampton before the start of the new season, she is unlikely to be made to feel welcome at St Marys. Anybody who disagrees with this is merely in denial its more than obvious that this is her game plan.The club will issue no further statements explaining the circumstances of Poch s departure because they have no excuse Liebherr simply did not want to invest in new players to challenge for top four. Poch has been promised 50 million at Spurs so that pretty much confirms that Liebherr would not even agree to maintaining expenditure on last year s level.
You haven't got a clue what's been done any more than I have. Offer us evidence of your accusations please. I wait with baited breath.

50 mill to spend on players eh!? I can't prove it but I bet what Saints offered would have been close to that and maybe even more (even though we don't need to spend that much)

Stop jumping to conclusions and wait for the facts to out.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: a really disappointing day for saints worse for me than Poch leaving is the lame ineffectual performance of the club chairman Krueger who is a total misfit at Southampton. As is Les Reed. This truly is another dark age, it is clear what Liebherrs intentions are to strip the club then sell it. She has no real interest in it other than the return she can make. She will make far more selling the club after stripping it than she would if she sold it as a going concern now. I hope for her sake that she completes her business and leaves Southampton before the start of the new season, she is unlikely to be made to feel welcome at St Marys. Anybody who disagrees with this is merely in denial its more than obvious that this is her game plan.The club will issue no further statements explaining the circumstances of Poch s departure because they have no excuse Liebherr simply did not want to invest in new players to challenge for top four. Poch has been promised 50 million at Spurs so that pretty much confirms that Liebherr would not even agree to maintaining expenditure on last year s level.[/p][/quote]You haven't got a clue what's been done any more than I have. Offer us evidence of your accusations please. I wait with baited breath. 50 mill to spend on players eh!? I can't prove it but I bet what Saints offered would have been close to that and maybe even more (even though we don't need to spend that much) Stop jumping to conclusions and wait for the facts to out. jls217
  • Score: 9

7:19pm Tue 27 May 14

saint Compo says...

This is a time to STAY CALM AND CARRY ON. My fear however is that some of our best players will follow Pochettino out of the door (and maybe some will even become Spurs).

We need a top notch manager to come in and convince our best players to stay. The likes of Malky McKay and the Wally with the Brolly are not good enough. There are foreign managers who want to coach in the Premier League and Saints 8th place finish last season makes us a club with prospects.

We must trust in the Owner and Board to back their words with actions. Otherwise we will become another struggling club trying to stave off relegation again.

Pochettino will find it hard to meet Spurs' high expectations and may come to regret his decision to move to Spurs at this stage of his career. He has shown no loyalty to Saints but what else can you expect these days when money counts for everything?

We fans must keep the faith. Nobody is bigger than the club. We can thrive under a new manager.

COYR
This is a time to STAY CALM AND CARRY ON. My fear however is that some of our best players will follow Pochettino out of the door (and maybe some will even become Spurs). We need a top notch manager to come in and convince our best players to stay. The likes of Malky McKay and the Wally with the Brolly are not good enough. There are foreign managers who want to coach in the Premier League and Saints 8th place finish last season makes us a club with prospects. We must trust in the Owner and Board to back their words with actions. Otherwise we will become another struggling club trying to stave off relegation again. Pochettino will find it hard to meet Spurs' high expectations and may come to regret his decision to move to Spurs at this stage of his career. He has shown no loyalty to Saints but what else can you expect these days when money counts for everything? We fans must keep the faith. Nobody is bigger than the club. We can thrive under a new manager. COYR saint Compo
  • Score: 9

7:19pm Tue 27 May 14

Scarborosaint says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league
I can remember back to the early 70s !!! And what exactly are the board supposed to do if the manager will not sign a new contract and he only has a year left on his contract. He was offered a new improved contract to be the highest paid saints manager ever but unfortunately there is no loyalty in football now both from clubs or managers or players for that matter. And to compare it to hoddles departure is crazy. Hoddle was a spurs legend and to be offered to be manager of your home town club so to speak meant we would never keep him , even if Lowe was a complete t#sser.
Ok cool I had to pose the question re memory as you never know the age of posters do you. As for your question what are the board supposed to do ? well in my opinion its simple. Refuse the resignation and put MP on gardening leave for 1 year remaining on contract and appoint replacement is one option. Another is the board are supposed to show US the FANS and MP they can match his ambition by refusing ANY offers for ANY of our players. Sadly Krueger doesn't have the mental strength to do this. The issue with him is there is no emotional attachment to SFC. I worry for the club with him at the helm as he doesn't seem to care for us. His statements are in my opinion just empty words
Very noble ideas but living in the real world if someone wants to go to another club one who are a bigger what's the point in getting in the way. Unlike us managers are not supporters they have no allegiance to the club like we do . I am disappointed that MP has gone but not as disappointed as when we were skint and got relegated twice in quick succession. I would like to keep Shaw and Lallana but if clubs like Liverpool and United offer stupid money for them how do you stand in their way. Bale left spurs to go to Real as did Ronaldo but from utd obviously , they have long term contracts but they are not worth the paper they are written on, money talks in football , ask Yaya Toure's why he wants to go to PSG ??
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league[/p][/quote]I can remember back to the early 70s !!! And what exactly are the board supposed to do if the manager will not sign a new contract and he only has a year left on his contract. He was offered a new improved contract to be the highest paid saints manager ever but unfortunately there is no loyalty in football now both from clubs or managers or players for that matter. And to compare it to hoddles departure is crazy. Hoddle was a spurs legend and to be offered to be manager of your home town club so to speak meant we would never keep him , even if Lowe was a complete t#sser.[/p][/quote]Ok cool I had to pose the question re memory as you never know the age of posters do you. As for your question what are the board supposed to do ? well in my opinion its simple. Refuse the resignation and put MP on gardening leave for 1 year remaining on contract and appoint replacement is one option. Another is the board are supposed to show US the FANS and MP they can match his ambition by refusing ANY offers for ANY of our players. Sadly Krueger doesn't have the mental strength to do this. The issue with him is there is no emotional attachment to SFC. I worry for the club with him at the helm as he doesn't seem to care for us. His statements are in my opinion just empty words[/p][/quote]Very noble ideas but living in the real world if someone wants to go to another club one who are a bigger what's the point in getting in the way. Unlike us managers are not supporters they have no allegiance to the club like we do . I am disappointed that MP has gone but not as disappointed as when we were skint and got relegated twice in quick succession. I would like to keep Shaw and Lallana but if clubs like Liverpool and United offer stupid money for them how do you stand in their way. Bale left spurs to go to Real as did Ronaldo but from utd obviously , they have long term contracts but they are not worth the paper they are written on, money talks in football , ask Yaya Toure's why he wants to go to PSG ?? Scarborosaint
  • Score: 9

7:22pm Tue 27 May 14

Baybrit says...

I'm no bloody fairweather fan. I've been a Saints fan for over 55 years and hope to continue to be a Saints fan for another 55 years (Yes, I want to hang around a long long time to **** off a whole lot more people). The Saints have survived a helluva lot worse than this. We will get another manager, the players in question have not left, the team is still intact. Why are you lot being so damned defeatist?!? We are Southampton, we are not Portsmouth!
I'm no bloody fairweather fan. I've been a Saints fan for over 55 years and hope to continue to be a Saints fan for another 55 years (Yes, I want to hang around a long long time to **** off a whole lot more people). The Saints have survived a helluva lot worse than this. We will get another manager, the players in question have not left, the team is still intact. Why are you lot being so damned defeatist?!? We are Southampton, we are not Portsmouth! Baybrit
  • Score: 21

7:27pm Tue 27 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

costa gaz wrote:
Accounts for summer 2014;

Premier league and Sky money £115m
season tickets £10m
transfers out £225m
Other £5m

Total £355m

total spend;
Transfers in £12m
wages £100m


Net profit £243m

*estimate only, based on recent analysis by merchant of doom*

This company would be deemed to be a huge success in any other market.
A very accurate assessment of the financial situation.

Following your club's capital restructuring during summer 2013, your owner is now able to pay herself dividends based on these figures for income and profit. All the information you need to know is contained in documents freely available at Companies House, if you know where to look and can understand them. I have drawn your attention to these facts repeatedly, and received in return nothing but abuse. So who is laughing now?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Accounts for summer 2014; Premier league and Sky money £115m season tickets £10m transfers out £225m Other £5m Total £355m total spend; Transfers in £12m wages £100m Net profit £243m *estimate only, based on recent analysis by merchant of doom* This company would be deemed to be a huge success in any other market.[/p][/quote]A very accurate assessment of the financial situation. Following your club's capital restructuring during summer 2013, your owner is now able to pay herself dividends based on these figures for income and profit. All the information you need to know is contained in documents freely available at Companies House, if you know where to look and can understand them. I have drawn your attention to these facts repeatedly, and received in return nothing but abuse. So who is laughing now? Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -3

7:28pm Tue 27 May 14

jls217 says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Butt_the_nut wrote:
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
I understand your disappointment mate but if you're going to make statements like "Not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to their fans" You should back it up with the evidence.

Who has lied and when - I haven't heard a single lie from anyone of the club officials. Poch could be accused of stretching his version of the truth but nobody else did.

The club spent a lot of money over the last 18 months both in players and in infrastructure costs - please explain to us all how that displays a lack of ambition.

Now calm down dear and put your argument forward in a logical manner and with evidence to back the statement up or take your histrionics and go down the M27 to Fartton Krap and they'll show you thousands of reasons to get really upset over.

I've been following Saints longer than you and us ole timers know we rant and we rave and get depressed on a regular basis but we always turn up next season because next season is always going to be the best ever. You know I'm right.
Think I might be speaking out of turn a little but I suspect the poster suggesting about lies is referring to the same Lies I accuse Krueger of which is to more open in the communication with us the fans and also in "doing what is best for Saints" These two statements have in my opinion yet to be backed up with evidence. The difficulty Krueger in my opinion has is he will never be able to have the passion and love for the club us fans do even if we as a group have very different views the one thing we agree on is we love SFC even if the board seem hell bent on going backwards. Just my opinion and bring on the thumbs down but it is my view that KL and Krueger don't have ambition to improve on last years performance they just want stability. I feel new owners are required to make the next push forward. If Reading FC can have two billionnaires interesting in purchasing the club surely we can as well. Right now i'd welcome Cortese back with open arms if he'd even be remotely interested.
No you're not speaking out of turn mate. Your opinion is as valid as mine but I try (and sometimes fail) to keep my opinions based on logic and/fact. When people make statements when they are emotional or angry then far too often they get their statements full of spite, hate, negativity and to be frank mostly blx.
Keep your powder dry until we see what the new manager has to offer us in the way of bringing on even more youngsters, squeezing another golden season out of some of our older players and trawling the transfer market.

Tens of millions of squids have been poured into this club over the last couple of years - that is not asset stripping, it's asset enhancing. Just tote up the money spent by Adkins and MOPO on players alone. Add to that the money spent by NC and KL on the infrastructure of the club, especially the training facilities which were very good even before the money invested to make it better. We - supporters have never had it this good or even close, maybe we're getting spoilt and taking them for granted. This is a business and those in charge will need to know they can make a profit - that is why they have investested so heavily for the long term. Wait and see what happens when the dust settles mate.
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh[/p][/quote]I understand your disappointment mate but if you're going to make statements like "Not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to their fans" You should back it up with the evidence. Who has lied and when - I haven't heard a single lie from anyone of the club officials. Poch could be accused of stretching his version of the truth but nobody else did. The club spent a lot of money over the last 18 months both in players and in infrastructure costs - please explain to us all how that displays a lack of ambition. Now calm down dear and put your argument forward in a logical manner and with evidence to back the statement up or take your histrionics and go down the M27 to Fartton Krap and they'll show you thousands of reasons to get really upset over. I've been following Saints longer than you and us ole timers know we rant and we rave and get depressed on a regular basis but we always turn up next season because next season is always going to be the best ever. You know I'm right.[/p][/quote]Think I might be speaking out of turn a little but I suspect the poster suggesting about lies is referring to the same Lies I accuse Krueger of which is to more open in the communication with us the fans and also in "doing what is best for Saints" These two statements have in my opinion yet to be backed up with evidence. The difficulty Krueger in my opinion has is he will never be able to have the passion and love for the club us fans do even if we as a group have very different views the one thing we agree on is we love SFC even if the board seem hell bent on going backwards. Just my opinion and bring on the thumbs down but it is my view that KL and Krueger don't have ambition to improve on last years performance they just want stability. I feel new owners are required to make the next push forward. If Reading FC can have two billionnaires interesting in purchasing the club surely we can as well. Right now i'd welcome Cortese back with open arms if he'd even be remotely interested.[/p][/quote]No you're not speaking out of turn mate. Your opinion is as valid as mine but I try (and sometimes fail) to keep my opinions based on logic and/fact. When people make statements when they are emotional or angry then far too often they get their statements full of spite, hate, negativity and to be frank mostly blx. Keep your powder dry until we see what the new manager has to offer us in the way of bringing on even more youngsters, squeezing another golden season out of some of our older players and trawling the transfer market. Tens of millions of squids have been poured into this club over the last couple of years - that is not asset stripping, it's asset enhancing. Just tote up the money spent by Adkins and MOPO on players alone. Add to that the money spent by NC and KL on the infrastructure of the club, especially the training facilities which were very good even before the money invested to make it better. We - supporters have never had it this good or even close, maybe we're getting spoilt and taking them for granted. This is a business and those in charge will need to know they can make a profit - that is why they have investested so heavily for the long term. Wait and see what happens when the dust settles mate. jls217
  • Score: 6

7:30pm Tue 27 May 14

knuckle dragger says...

Well I'm looking forward to next season with a new manager and new players bought in and continuing the push up the league table. Champions league is coming to Southampton!
Well I'm looking forward to next season with a new manager and new players bought in and continuing the push up the league table. Champions league is coming to Southampton! knuckle dragger
  • Score: 10

7:33pm Tue 27 May 14

bullsbags says...

upwherewebelong wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league
So if as an example we go and poach Howe from Bournemouth you would accuse their chairman of having no ambition would you .
Muppet
[quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league[/p][/quote]So if as an example we go and poach Howe from Bournemouth you would accuse their chairman of having no ambition would you . Muppet bullsbags
  • Score: 0

7:37pm Tue 27 May 14

Block 42 says...

ralph kruger and the board have absolutely no ambition at all. what next let me guess we sell luke shaw???pathetic..the
n what lallana?why stop there..cannot blame pochettino at all for leaving.saints have no chance of making champions league by selling assets..hope he does well with spurs.hes a good manager and deserves success..just hope he dosnr buy our players.
ralph kruger and the board have absolutely no ambition at all. what next let me guess we sell luke shaw???pathetic..the n what lallana?why stop there..cannot blame pochettino at all for leaving.saints have no chance of making champions league by selling assets..hope he does well with spurs.hes a good manager and deserves success..just hope he dosnr buy our players. Block 42
  • Score: -10

7:47pm Tue 27 May 14

redsnapper says...

Club For Sale!!

And who the **** is Mike Callaghan...just heard him interviewd on SS1 what a 24 carat plonker.
Club For Sale!! And who the **** is Mike Callaghan...just heard him interviewd on SS1 what a 24 carat plonker. redsnapper
  • Score: 5

7:47pm Tue 27 May 14

Paul TS says...

So Ralph, let's see if you are worthy of your position now! So MP has left and all his coaching staff, lots of our players being mentioned with other teams, no replacements in mind (that's how it looks), Katharina really did not want the club. Very concerned for the new season and it hasn't started yet, is this a rudderless ship, as all in charge don't have any background in the game? Oh also Corteses and Dodsy, gone (did they know something already), a big worry!
So Ralph, let's see if you are worthy of your position now! So MP has left and all his coaching staff, lots of our players being mentioned with other teams, no replacements in mind (that's how it looks), Katharina really did not want the club. Very concerned for the new season and it hasn't started yet, is this a rudderless ship, as all in charge don't have any background in the game? Oh also Corteses and Dodsy, gone (did they know something already), a big worry! Paul TS
  • Score: -3

7:49pm Tue 27 May 14

J7junctionseven says...

Could be worse...could be Skunts
COYR FOADP
Could be worse...could be Skunts COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

7:53pm Tue 27 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

bullsbags wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league
So if as an example we go and poach Howe from Bournemouth you would accuse their chairman of having no ambition would you .
Muppet
Not sure you can say How and Mp are in the same league as far as quality goes. But no I wouldn't accuse their chairman of having no ambition without knowing the background to the situation at Bournemouth, My issue with RK is he doesn't speak as if he has any ambition that is what my comment is based on. I have no doubt you'll still disagree as clearly you don't feel this board can do anything wrong. Doubt you're even bothered about MP leaving and the manner in which he did it
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league[/p][/quote]So if as an example we go and poach Howe from Bournemouth you would accuse their chairman of having no ambition would you . Muppet[/p][/quote]Not sure you can say How and Mp are in the same league as far as quality goes. But no I wouldn't accuse their chairman of having no ambition without knowing the background to the situation at Bournemouth, My issue with RK is he doesn't speak as if he has any ambition that is what my comment is based on. I have no doubt you'll still disagree as clearly you don't feel this board can do anything wrong. Doubt you're even bothered about MP leaving and the manner in which he did it upwherewebelong
  • Score: -1

7:55pm Tue 27 May 14

Thankyounicola says...

Lot of you probably miss The DON now. When he was around all the talk was about who was coming in rather than who's leaving. wake up!! Can't you see he was always 2 steps ahead. A big part of the £29 mil debt could have been recovered by selling Dani and ?gaston. He left saints in a financially decent position and achieved success along the way.

Poch has his limitations and you will see in years to come.
Agreed that we had a great season but you may not have noticed that we never came back to win from a losing position throughout the entire season. Wish he was more loyal....I would super p*ssed if he takes any of our players with him
Lot of you probably miss The DON now. When he was around all the talk was about who was coming in rather than who's leaving. wake up!! Can't you see he was always 2 steps ahead. A big part of the £29 mil debt could have been recovered by selling Dani and ?gaston. He left saints in a financially decent position and achieved success along the way. Poch has his limitations and you will see in years to come. Agreed that we had a great season but you may not have noticed that we never came back to win from a losing position throughout the entire season. Wish he was more loyal....I would super p*ssed if he takes any of our players with him Thankyounicola
  • Score: 5

7:55pm Tue 27 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

Time for cool heads. I am bitterly disappointed at Poch and his lack of loyalty, but also do not have the facts.I have been a Saints fan all off my life and will be so tomorrow. With every departure, there is a new beginning. Who is to say, it will not continue to be bright for the only real football team on the South coast?
Time for cool heads. I am bitterly disappointed at Poch and his lack of loyalty, but also do not have the facts.I have been a Saints fan all off my life and will be so tomorrow. With every departure, there is a new beginning. Who is to say, it will not continue to be bright for the only real football team on the South coast? DisplacedFan
  • Score: 9

7:57pm Tue 27 May 14

swesaint says...

Butt_the_nut wrote:
Im done with saints now!!!! ive had enough of holding my head in my hands every week because we are fighting relegation. Bye bye Shaw and Lallana and Clyne and Schneiderlin oh and your welcome. Traitors the lot of you including MP
You forgot to say bye bye to yourself
[quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Im done with saints now!!!! ive had enough of holding my head in my hands every week because we are fighting relegation. Bye bye Shaw and Lallana and Clyne and Schneiderlin oh and your welcome. Traitors the lot of you including MP[/p][/quote]You forgot to say bye bye to yourself swesaint
  • Score: 2

7:57pm Tue 27 May 14

jls217 says...

Block 42 wrote:
ralph kruger and the board have absolutely no ambition at all. what next let me guess we sell luke shaw???pathetic..the

n what lallana?why stop there..cannot blame pochettino at all for leaving.saints have no chance of making champions league by selling assets..hope he does well with spurs.hes a good manager and deserves success..just hope he dosnr buy our players.
And it's okay for him to drop us in it by not seeing out his contract is it?

All clubs sell their assets - all the way up to Barcelona and Juventus - that's how business is done. You buy cheap, develop and sell dear. Sometimes you get it right and others you don't.

So what if we sell a couple of our prize assets - what's important is how that money is used to re=shape the squad. The board will take a share of the profits because that's what they're in it for. This is not a charity for a billionaire to pour money into out of the goodness of their heart mate.

He may well come back with an offer or two - I would if I were in his position. Our leaders must make sure they pay very dearly if they do.

I too wish him well - but right now I'm more interested in looking forward to next season which is going to be even better than the last.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: ralph kruger and the board have absolutely no ambition at all. what next let me guess we sell luke shaw???pathetic..the n what lallana?why stop there..cannot blame pochettino at all for leaving.saints have no chance of making champions league by selling assets..hope he does well with spurs.hes a good manager and deserves success..just hope he dosnr buy our players.[/p][/quote]And it's okay for him to drop us in it by not seeing out his contract is it? All clubs sell their assets - all the way up to Barcelona and Juventus - that's how business is done. You buy cheap, develop and sell dear. Sometimes you get it right and others you don't. So what if we sell a couple of our prize assets - what's important is how that money is used to re=shape the squad. The board will take a share of the profits because that's what they're in it for. This is not a charity for a billionaire to pour money into out of the goodness of their heart mate. He may well come back with an offer or two - I would if I were in his position. Our leaders must make sure they pay very dearly if they do. I too wish him well - but right now I'm more interested in looking forward to next season which is going to be even better than the last. jls217
  • Score: 3

7:58pm Tue 27 May 14

swesaint says...

Butt_the_nut wrote:
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
Finally, could not come any sooner.
[quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh[/p][/quote]Finally, could not come any sooner. swesaint
  • Score: 1

7:59pm Tue 27 May 14

jls217 says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
Time for cool heads. I am bitterly disappointed at Poch and his lack of loyalty, but also do not have the facts.I have been a Saints fan all off my life and will be so tomorrow. With every departure, there is a new beginning. Who is to say, it will not continue to be bright for the only real football team on the South coast?
Ah a kindred spirit. In this dark moment we are few and far between mate. The hotheads are shouting the loudest.

Next season is going to be the best ever!
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: Time for cool heads. I am bitterly disappointed at Poch and his lack of loyalty, but also do not have the facts.I have been a Saints fan all off my life and will be so tomorrow. With every departure, there is a new beginning. Who is to say, it will not continue to be bright for the only real football team on the South coast?[/p][/quote]Ah a kindred spirit. In this dark moment we are few and far between mate. The hotheads are shouting the loudest. Next season is going to be the best ever! jls217
  • Score: 7

8:00pm Tue 27 May 14

SnapperSaint says...

milton road wrote:
The word Judas comes to mind.
I am a bit perplexed that Spurs have sacked two managers with around a 59% ratio and employed one with a 32% win rate. For Poch to reach Europe he has to double his win rate. He was l;ucky with Saints he had a team that gave him their soul. Now he is mixing with so called super stars and hoping to get the same.
I honestly do not see him getting Spurs to the CL and if he doesn't then it will be TaTa.
In fairness Judas knew he was going to go the day Cortese went. Infairness to the board they couldn't say anyhting until Judas actually decided to sign for Spurs. I do hope though they have been identifying who they wanted for the last couple of weeks. In the last six months we have seen a progressive club ripped apart.
Who they employ is most important, the right person can still put the exodus on hold . Yet the truth is if a player wants to go the board can do nothing really to stop him accept enforce the price. One has to admit the board does not fill you with confidence. Suddenly the strength that was evident with Cortese has collapsed.
Someone like Moyes or Laudrup maybe go
Think Poch has jumped from the pot into the fire and will be under constant pressure.
Here he could of evolved his ideas and been given the time to do it. he won't get time at Spurs or patience, CL this season or else.
Yes but he's got a cosy 5 year contract to take with him when he gets fired...smart thinking Poch though it's a bit early to be thinking of it as a retirement plan; he's unlikely to get another job at a big club when he gets sacked for not getting into the top 4!!!
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: The word Judas comes to mind. I am a bit perplexed that Spurs have sacked two managers with around a 59% ratio and employed one with a 32% win rate. For Poch to reach Europe he has to double his win rate. He was l;ucky with Saints he had a team that gave him their soul. Now he is mixing with so called super stars and hoping to get the same. I honestly do not see him getting Spurs to the CL and if he doesn't then it will be TaTa. In fairness Judas knew he was going to go the day Cortese went. Infairness to the board they couldn't say anyhting until Judas actually decided to sign for Spurs. I do hope though they have been identifying who they wanted for the last couple of weeks. In the last six months we have seen a progressive club ripped apart. Who they employ is most important, the right person can still put the exodus on hold . Yet the truth is if a player wants to go the board can do nothing really to stop him accept enforce the price. One has to admit the board does not fill you with confidence. Suddenly the strength that was evident with Cortese has collapsed. Someone like Moyes or Laudrup maybe go Think Poch has jumped from the pot into the fire and will be under constant pressure. Here he could of evolved his ideas and been given the time to do it. he won't get time at Spurs or patience, CL this season or else.[/p][/quote]Yes but he's got a cosy 5 year contract to take with him when he gets fired...smart thinking Poch though it's a bit early to be thinking of it as a retirement plan; he's unlikely to get another job at a big club when he gets sacked for not getting into the top 4!!! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 1

8:02pm Tue 27 May 14

Costa Baz says...

He was gone the moment Cortese left.
He has made mugs of all Saints fans and STILL some of you can't see it.

His continuous platitudes, about discussing his future contract, were just empty words.

As I have said before, I will see how much money his replacement receives, for transfers, and how that money is generated, before forming my opinion as to how well the board has performed.
Just my humble opinion, but I think the board may have been trying to emulate Canute, in trying to prevent the impossible.

For what it's worth the original spelling of Canute was Cnut, and that's what I think of MP, right now.
He was gone the moment Cortese left. He has made mugs of all Saints fans and STILL some of you can't see it. His continuous platitudes, about discussing his future contract, were just empty words. As I have said before, I will see how much money his replacement receives, for transfers, and how that money is generated, before forming my opinion as to how well the board has performed. Just my humble opinion, but I think the board may have been trying to emulate Canute, in trying to prevent the impossible. For what it's worth the original spelling of Canute was Cnut, and that's what I think of MP, right now. Costa Baz
  • Score: 14

8:03pm Tue 27 May 14

SnapperSaint says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
Time for cool heads. I am bitterly disappointed at Poch and his lack of loyalty, but also do not have the facts.I have been a Saints fan all off my life and will be so tomorrow. With every departure, there is a new beginning. Who is to say, it will not continue to be bright for the only real football team on the South coast?
Totally agree with that, let's look forward to see what the next chapter of the Saints story is, we're done with the last one!
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: Time for cool heads. I am bitterly disappointed at Poch and his lack of loyalty, but also do not have the facts.I have been a Saints fan all off my life and will be so tomorrow. With every departure, there is a new beginning. Who is to say, it will not continue to be bright for the only real football team on the South coast?[/p][/quote]Totally agree with that, let's look forward to see what the next chapter of the Saints story is, we're done with the last one! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 6

8:06pm Tue 27 May 14

2getheras1 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Accounts for summer 2014;

Premier league and Sky money £115m
season tickets £10m
transfers out £225m
Other £5m

Total £355m

total spend;
Transfers in £12m
wages £100m


Net profit £243m

*estimate only, based on recent analysis by merchant of doom*

This company would be deemed to be a huge success in any other market.
Brilliant post Cost .

I often wonder if KL wants to asset strip Saints now she sees the company at peak value. Is this what her dad would have done too?

I hope not. I hope she believes her dad fell in love with the club and this is just a tough few lessons in her early days as the most successful Saints owner.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Accounts for summer 2014; Premier league and Sky money £115m season tickets £10m transfers out £225m Other £5m Total £355m total spend; Transfers in £12m wages £100m Net profit £243m *estimate only, based on recent analysis by merchant of doom* This company would be deemed to be a huge success in any other market.[/p][/quote]Brilliant post Cost . I often wonder if KL wants to asset strip Saints now she sees the company at peak value. Is this what her dad would have done too? I hope not. I hope she believes her dad fell in love with the club and this is just a tough few lessons in her early days as the most successful Saints owner. 2getheras1
  • Score: 2

8:11pm Tue 27 May 14

swesaint says...

montecristosaint wrote:
a really disappointing day for saints worse for me than Poch leaving is the lame ineffectual performance of the club chairman Krueger who is a total misfit at Southampton. As is Les Reed. This truly is another dark age, it is clear what Liebherrs intentions are to strip the club then sell it. She has no real interest in it other than the return she can make. She will make far more selling the club after stripping it than she would if she sold it as a going concern now. I hope for her sake that she completes her business and leaves Southampton before the start of the new season, she is unlikely to be made to feel welcome at St Marys. Anybody who disagrees with this is merely in denial its more than obvious that this is her game plan.The club will issue no further statements explaining the circumstances of Poch s departure because they have no excuse Liebherr simply did not want to invest in new players to challenge for top four. Poch has been promised 50 million at Spurs so that pretty much confirms that Liebherr would not even agree to maintaining expenditure on last year s level.
This is truly a new dark age? What have you been sniffing? We just finished 8th and are healthier than ever.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: a really disappointing day for saints worse for me than Poch leaving is the lame ineffectual performance of the club chairman Krueger who is a total misfit at Southampton. As is Les Reed. This truly is another dark age, it is clear what Liebherrs intentions are to strip the club then sell it. She has no real interest in it other than the return she can make. She will make far more selling the club after stripping it than she would if she sold it as a going concern now. I hope for her sake that she completes her business and leaves Southampton before the start of the new season, she is unlikely to be made to feel welcome at St Marys. Anybody who disagrees with this is merely in denial its more than obvious that this is her game plan.The club will issue no further statements explaining the circumstances of Poch s departure because they have no excuse Liebherr simply did not want to invest in new players to challenge for top four. Poch has been promised 50 million at Spurs so that pretty much confirms that Liebherr would not even agree to maintaining expenditure on last year s level.[/p][/quote]This is truly a new dark age? What have you been sniffing? We just finished 8th and are healthier than ever. swesaint
  • Score: 5

8:12pm Tue 27 May 14

Costa Baz says...

As so many on here seem to know everything that has gone on behind the scenes, could you tell me who to put my money on, for our next manager?
As so many on here seem to know everything that has gone on behind the scenes, could you tell me who to put my money on, for our next manager? Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

8:14pm Tue 27 May 14

KSO16R says...

Butt_the_nut wrote:
KSO16R wrote:
Get over it and carry on supporting saints.
We'll see in 12 months time
12 months time or 12 years time i will still be supporting saints.
[quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KSO16R[/bold] wrote: Get over it and carry on supporting saints.[/p][/quote]We'll see in 12 months time[/p][/quote]12 months time or 12 years time i will still be supporting saints. KSO16R
  • Score: 4

8:17pm Tue 27 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Costa Baz wrote:
As so many on here seem to know everything that has gone on behind the scenes, could you tell me who to put my money on, for our next manager?
Michael Appleton
Terry Butcher
Richie Barker
Ian Dowie
Christian Gross
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: As so many on here seem to know everything that has gone on behind the scenes, could you tell me who to put my money on, for our next manager?[/p][/quote]Michael Appleton Terry Butcher Richie Barker Ian Dowie Christian Gross Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -4

8:17pm Tue 27 May 14

SnapperSaint says...

So on the plus side, with Poch going this early in the transfer window, we at least have time to get the new manager in and they will have time to put all the plans in place to hit the ground running for the new season, like getting new players in to allow for those leaving, arrange the pre-season build up, and plan for our next exciting season in the Premier League!

Of-course it would really get some credibility back with the board if they tell us all what they offered Poch so we can judge for ourselves what he turned down to move to Spurs. Then they could swiftly follow that with the appointment of an excellent replacement manager and some cash to spend and tell us what they expect him to achieve with it.
Only then will we really know what the new 5 year project is and whether they have any great ambition for the club!
So on the plus side, with Poch going this early in the transfer window, we at least have time to get the new manager in and they will have time to put all the plans in place to hit the ground running for the new season, like getting new players in to allow for those leaving, arrange the pre-season build up, and plan for our next exciting season in the Premier League! Of-course it would really get some credibility back with the board if they tell us all what they offered Poch so we can judge for ourselves what he turned down to move to Spurs. Then they could swiftly follow that with the appointment of an excellent replacement manager and some cash to spend and tell us what they expect him to achieve with it. Only then will we really know what the new 5 year project is and whether they have any great ambition for the club! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 4

8:24pm Tue 27 May 14

Invidia says...

I am not angry with MoPo walking out I am disappointed that he has not stayed to see the job through but not angry I was angry when Nigel Adkins was fired he was a decent bloke and I think that MoPo is also a decent bloke I believe that he knew we could not keep our team together after such a brilliant season we have achieved which is why he jumped ship. My hope is whoever comes in can rebuild, reshape the team and have a good coming season I don't expect to finish where we did last season just hope we are not fighting relegation, time will tell
I am not angry with MoPo walking out I am disappointed that he has not stayed to see the job through but not angry I was angry when Nigel Adkins was fired he was a decent bloke and I think that MoPo is also a decent bloke I believe that he knew we could not keep our team together after such a brilliant season we have achieved which is why he jumped ship. My hope is whoever comes in can rebuild, reshape the team and have a good coming season I don't expect to finish where we did last season just hope we are not fighting relegation, time will tell Invidia
  • Score: 1

8:29pm Tue 27 May 14

jls217 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
He was gone the moment Cortese left.
He has made mugs of all Saints fans and STILL some of you can't see it.

His continuous platitudes, about discussing his future contract, were just empty words.

As I have said before, I will see how much money his replacement receives, for transfers, and how that money is generated, before forming my opinion as to how well the board has performed.
Just my humble opinion, but I think the board may have been trying to emulate Canute, in trying to prevent the impossible.

For what it's worth the original spelling of Canute was Cnut, and that's what I think of MP, right now.
We'll never know for sure what went on - pure conjecture mate. Love the tone of the thread however and difficult to argue with your view of MP given what he has done.
Don't wish him ill though. If he is of that ilk then Spurs or anyone else is welcome to him we'll search for someone with higher moral standards. Annoying as we've had them over the years and our various boards have treated them very badly indeed. Perhaps we reap what we sow eh!?
All everyone seems to issue from football clubs nowadays is tried and practiced blx and bs revolving around bland vagueness and obvious statements. Politicians have been doing it for years and business follows - perhaps we shouldn't be surprised. Just find out where they teach this carp and raze it to the ground.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: He was gone the moment Cortese left. He has made mugs of all Saints fans and STILL some of you can't see it. His continuous platitudes, about discussing his future contract, were just empty words. As I have said before, I will see how much money his replacement receives, for transfers, and how that money is generated, before forming my opinion as to how well the board has performed. Just my humble opinion, but I think the board may have been trying to emulate Canute, in trying to prevent the impossible. For what it's worth the original spelling of Canute was Cnut, and that's what I think of MP, right now.[/p][/quote]We'll never know for sure what went on - pure conjecture mate. Love the tone of the thread however and difficult to argue with your view of MP given what he has done. Don't wish him ill though. If he is of that ilk then Spurs or anyone else is welcome to him we'll search for someone with higher moral standards. Annoying as we've had them over the years and our various boards have treated them very badly indeed. Perhaps we reap what we sow eh!? All everyone seems to issue from football clubs nowadays is tried and practiced blx and bs revolving around bland vagueness and obvious statements. Politicians have been doing it for years and business follows - perhaps we shouldn't be surprised. Just find out where they teach this carp and raze it to the ground. jls217
  • Score: 1

8:38pm Tue 27 May 14

Block 42 says...

jls217 wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
ralph kruger and the board have absolutely no ambition at all. what next let me guess we sell luke shaw???pathetic..the


n what lallana?why stop there..cannot blame pochettino at all for leaving.saints have no chance of making champions league by selling assets..hope he does well with spurs.hes a good manager and deserves success..just hope he dosnr buy our players.
And it's okay for him to drop us in it by not seeing out his contract is it?

All clubs sell their assets - all the way up to Barcelona and Juventus - that's how business is done. You buy cheap, develop and sell dear. Sometimes you get it right and others you don't.

So what if we sell a couple of our prize assets - what's important is how that money is used to re=shape the squad. The board will take a share of the profits because that's what they're in it for. This is not a charity for a billionaire to pour money into out of the goodness of their heart mate.

He may well come back with an offer or two - I would if I were in his position. Our leaders must make sure they pay very dearly if they do.

I too wish him well - but right now I'm more interested in looking forward to next season which is going to be even better than the last.
yeah its a good point.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: ralph kruger and the board have absolutely no ambition at all. what next let me guess we sell luke shaw???pathetic..the n what lallana?why stop there..cannot blame pochettino at all for leaving.saints have no chance of making champions league by selling assets..hope he does well with spurs.hes a good manager and deserves success..just hope he dosnr buy our players.[/p][/quote]And it's okay for him to drop us in it by not seeing out his contract is it? All clubs sell their assets - all the way up to Barcelona and Juventus - that's how business is done. You buy cheap, develop and sell dear. Sometimes you get it right and others you don't. So what if we sell a couple of our prize assets - what's important is how that money is used to re=shape the squad. The board will take a share of the profits because that's what they're in it for. This is not a charity for a billionaire to pour money into out of the goodness of their heart mate. He may well come back with an offer or two - I would if I were in his position. Our leaders must make sure they pay very dearly if they do. I too wish him well - but right now I'm more interested in looking forward to next season which is going to be even better than the last.[/p][/quote]yeah its a good point. Block 42
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Tue 27 May 14

andygoater1957 says...

only1chopper wrote:
we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke?
Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.
We all now the answer to that.
[quote][p][bold]only1chopper[/bold] wrote: we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke? Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.[/p][/quote]We all now the answer to that. andygoater1957
  • Score: -2

8:43pm Tue 27 May 14

LFCalways says...

only1chopper wrote:
we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke?
Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.
are we selling adam and luke?.......answer to that is yes!!!! its a no brainer as talks for shaw and lallana is still going on with Utd and Liverpool regaining price, its going to be the same result guys im afraid the silence is the key from your club... and look what happened to your manager
[quote][p][bold]only1chopper[/bold] wrote: we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke? Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.[/p][/quote]are we selling adam and luke?.......answer to that is yes!!!! its a no brainer as talks for shaw and lallana is still going on with Utd and Liverpool regaining price, its going to be the same result guys im afraid the silence is the key from your club... and look what happened to your manager LFCalways
  • Score: -5

8:51pm Tue 27 May 14

LFCalways says...

I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now!
As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....
I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time.... LFCalways
  • Score: 1

8:55pm Tue 27 May 14

Malcombe says...

This whole thing stinks!! I and thousands of us are in shock, talk about butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, MoPo has dumped from an enormous height on everything he had handed to him from SFC, I feel humiliated after all the constructive comments I've put in the Echo about his Latin genes that he would be loyal and stay with his extended family but he's fooled me and he's betrayed the loyal Supporters the Board the Players and ignored there pleas and I think they knew about his plan but he was making false comments he was lying, he's fooled us all who would of thought that? he's proved to be very insincere particularly after NC departed which I think played a big part in him wanting to leave he could of been devastated his friend had gone , I think he was approached months ago by Levy, what sickens me is it's as if he used SFC for the last 5 months to gain more experience and his mind was made up, he could of agreed a deal after AVB was sacked and Levy appointed Tim Sherwood to fill the void and steer the ship until the end of the season.

I felt Levy knew he had netted MoPo him when he said he would not be interviewing unemployed Football Managers and by contacting Ajax it was a diversion a Red Herring, if MoPo persuades any of the Southampton Players to play for him at Tottenham I wouldn't want to be in his shoes when he returns to St Marys with his new Team, he will need his maker to protect him and wear an armoured plated suit but Southampton FC will not go sideways and downwards only two directions ONWARDS AND UPWARDS, Southampton FC we the Supporters will never ever betray you we all love you until death
This whole thing stinks!! I and thousands of us are in shock, talk about butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, MoPo has dumped from an enormous height on everything he had handed to him from SFC, I feel humiliated after all the constructive comments I've put in the Echo about his Latin genes that he would be loyal and stay with his extended family but he's fooled me and he's betrayed the loyal Supporters the Board the Players and ignored there pleas and I think they knew about his plan but he was making false comments he was lying, he's fooled us all who would of thought that? he's proved to be very insincere particularly after NC departed which I think played a big part in him wanting to leave he could of been devastated his friend had gone , I think he was approached months ago by Levy, what sickens me is it's as if he used SFC for the last 5 months to gain more experience and his mind was made up, he could of agreed a deal after AVB was sacked and Levy appointed Tim Sherwood to fill the void and steer the ship until the end of the season. I felt Levy knew he had netted MoPo him when he said he would not be interviewing unemployed Football Managers and by contacting Ajax it was a diversion a Red Herring, if MoPo persuades any of the Southampton Players to play for him at Tottenham I wouldn't want to be in his shoes when he returns to St Marys with his new Team, he will need his maker to protect him and wear an armoured plated suit but Southampton FC will not go sideways and downwards only two directions ONWARDS AND UPWARDS, Southampton FC we the Supporters will never ever betray you we all love you until death Malcombe
  • Score: 8

9:04pm Tue 27 May 14

Costa Baz says...

LFCalways wrote:
I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now!
As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....
How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?
[quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....[/p][/quote]How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions? Costa Baz
  • Score: 4

9:06pm Tue 27 May 14

andygoater1957 says...

only1chopper wrote:
we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke?
Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.
We all now the answer to that.
[quote][p][bold]only1chopper[/bold] wrote: we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke? Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.[/p][/quote]We all now the answer to that. andygoater1957
  • Score: -1

9:27pm Tue 27 May 14

MiltonRoad says...

Butt_the_nut wrote:
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
35 years? We just finished 8th in the PL and, after 35 yrs you think now is the time to bail out? Do you remember Administration......
...League 1..........Rupert Lowe........Ian Branfoot?????
Strange.........
[quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh[/p][/quote]35 years? We just finished 8th in the PL and, after 35 yrs you think now is the time to bail out? Do you remember Administration...... ...League 1..........Rupert Lowe........Ian Branfoot????? Strange......... MiltonRoad
  • Score: 9

9:29pm Tue 27 May 14

loosehead says...

Sounds like MOPO was on his way out anyway.
Sounds like MOPO was on his way out anyway. loosehead
  • Score: 5

9:31pm Tue 27 May 14

LFCalways says...

Costa Baz wrote:
LFCalways wrote:
I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now!
As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....
How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?
about 100mill if he goes....but thats life, i do hope he doesn't go but if he does i and rest of the liverpool fans will wish him well
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....[/p][/quote]How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?[/p][/quote]about 100mill if he goes....but thats life, i do hope he doesn't go but if he does i and rest of the liverpool fans will wish him well LFCalways
  • Score: 0

9:39pm Tue 27 May 14

LFCalways says...

Costa Baz wrote:
LFCalways wrote:
I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now!
As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....
How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?
if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....[/p][/quote]How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?[/p][/quote]if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure LFCalways
  • Score: 2

9:39pm Tue 27 May 14

deepheat says...

Ronald Koeman is hot favourite to be our next manager. He wasn't even on the list when what's name left for Spurs.
Ronald Koeman is hot favourite to be our next manager. He wasn't even on the list when what's name left for Spurs. deepheat
  • Score: 2

9:42pm Tue 27 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

I'm not disappointed in the board because I think MoPo would have gone regardless. However, their actions over the next few weeks are vital. If we appoint one of those mediocre managers on the merry-go-round that the bookies are lining up as a replacement (Sherwood, Malky, Poyet etc) then I'll take that as a sign of a genuine lack of ambition. But if we go for a Laudrup or that dude from Basle or someone who was a bit under the radar (as Poch was) but who turns out to have a conviction in playing the game in a fresh new way then I'm behind Ralph 100%. We still have Les Reed at the club, and I'm fairly sure it was him who pinpointed MoPo and I reckon he can do it again. Wait and see is all I'm saying.
I'm not disappointed in the board because I think MoPo would have gone regardless. However, their actions over the next few weeks are vital. If we appoint one of those mediocre managers on the merry-go-round that the bookies are lining up as a replacement (Sherwood, Malky, Poyet etc) then I'll take that as a sign of a genuine lack of ambition. But if we go for a Laudrup or that dude from Basle or someone who was a bit under the radar (as Poch was) but who turns out to have a conviction in playing the game in a fresh new way then I'm behind Ralph 100%. We still have Les Reed at the club, and I'm fairly sure it was him who pinpointed MoPo and I reckon he can do it again. Wait and see is all I'm saying. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 8

9:43pm Tue 27 May 14

midsomernortonsaint says...

I know he's gone and good luck but is that the only response from the board a shallow statement with no intent
I know he's gone and good luck but is that the only response from the board a shallow statement with no intent midsomernortonsaint
  • Score: 0

9:52pm Tue 27 May 14

BracknellSaint says...

What a sad, and embarrassing end to this little saga...and now we get to look forward to a few months of every single one of our players being touted around the top 6.
Silence from the board has been cringe worthy, and Les Reed's statement a farce. MoPo's bolting for the door in the face of a few quid is reviling.
Laughing stock of football tonight...thanks for nothing, Saints....
What a sad, and embarrassing end to this little saga...and now we get to look forward to a few months of every single one of our players being touted around the top 6. Silence from the board has been cringe worthy, and Les Reed's statement a farce. MoPo's bolting for the door in the face of a few quid is reviling. Laughing stock of football tonight...thanks for nothing, Saints.... BracknellSaint
  • Score: -4

9:53pm Tue 27 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

LFCalways wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
LFCalways wrote:
I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now!
As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....
How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?
if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure
That's nice. I think I can speak for all Saints fans when I say I couldn't give a fcuk what Suarez does or doesn't do. What are you doing here?
[quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....[/p][/quote]How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?[/p][/quote]if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure[/p][/quote]That's nice. I think I can speak for all Saints fans when I say I couldn't give a fcuk what Suarez does or doesn't do. What are you doing here? Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 2

9:55pm Tue 27 May 14

Epsom Saint says...

Loads of negative rubbish on here tonight. It's a setback but we can still move forward - we are still in a good place.

And to suggest KL is asset stripping after all the money she has invested is laughable!
Loads of negative rubbish on here tonight. It's a setback but we can still move forward - we are still in a good place. And to suggest KL is asset stripping after all the money she has invested is laughable! Epsom Saint
  • Score: 11

10:07pm Tue 27 May 14

LFCalways says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
LFCalways wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
LFCalways wrote:
I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now!
As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....
How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?
if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure
That's nice. I think I can speak for all Saints fans when I say I couldn't give a fcuk what Suarez does or doesn't do. What are you doing here?
Im from southampton.......an
d been reading all the posts like everyone else....and im just amazed by most saints fans can see what your board is doing to your club (except the courtesy family who had ambition) are ruining your club.
Is this what you really want from your club?
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....[/p][/quote]How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?[/p][/quote]if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure[/p][/quote]That's nice. I think I can speak for all Saints fans when I say I couldn't give a fcuk what Suarez does or doesn't do. What are you doing here?[/p][/quote]Im from southampton.......an d been reading all the posts like everyone else....and im just amazed by most saints fans can see what your board is doing to your club (except the courtesy family who had ambition) are ruining your club. Is this what you really want from your club? LFCalways
  • Score: -4

10:08pm Tue 27 May 14

miltonarcher says...

What are the odds, first home game of the season v guess who?
What are the odds, first home game of the season v guess who? miltonarcher
  • Score: 2

10:18pm Tue 27 May 14

florida saint says...

come on lads, what a pessimistic bunch, The story continues , new chapter now, so mopo has f@cked of to spurs, and some of our young stars may go to , The difference this time compared to the lowe days is 150 mil for saints with sky money and sales, , Don't understand why its the chairmans fault, at least he has gone now and not with one week to go before the seasons starts, yes im p1ssed off too, but we have to move on. A high level manager with good contacts is imperative , lets not lose sight of where we were 4 seasons ago. we are in so much a better place than we were 5 years ago, so we have to be positive and I know at times like this it isn't easy, if you really want to feel better, just imagine how depressing it would be if we were sk8s. stay behind the club and im sure it will work out. u t s for ever, who ever is the bloody manager and players are.
come on lads, what a pessimistic bunch, The story continues , new chapter now, so mopo has f@cked of to spurs, and some of our young stars may go to , The difference this time compared to the lowe days is 150 mil for saints with sky money and sales, , Don't understand why its the chairmans fault, at least he has gone now and not with one week to go before the seasons starts, yes im p1ssed off too, but we have to move on. A high level manager with good contacts is imperative , lets not lose sight of where we were 4 seasons ago. we are in so much a better place than we were 5 years ago, so we have to be positive and I know at times like this it isn't easy, if you really want to feel better, just imagine how depressing it would be if we were sk8s. stay behind the club and im sure it will work out. u t s for ever, who ever is the bloody manager and players are. florida saint
  • Score: 6

10:21pm Tue 27 May 14

befriendly says...

If your boss told you he wouldn't allow you to leave for more money and couldn't match what you were offered what would you do? As for players leaving, a club has two choices, say no and watch them leave for nothing when their contracts up or get as much money as possible now. It happens to a lot of clubs and the departing player suddenly finds out the grass isn't always greener, by sitting on the bench more often than he plays. As for not allowing the other club to talk to him is a load of rubbish as the papers speculate and his agent does the talking until he hands in his resignation.
If your boss told you he wouldn't allow you to leave for more money and couldn't match what you were offered what would you do? As for players leaving, a club has two choices, say no and watch them leave for nothing when their contracts up or get as much money as possible now. It happens to a lot of clubs and the departing player suddenly finds out the grass isn't always greener, by sitting on the bench more often than he plays. As for not allowing the other club to talk to him is a load of rubbish as the papers speculate and his agent does the talking until he hands in his resignation. befriendly
  • Score: 3

10:21pm Tue 27 May 14

florida saint says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
What a sad, and embarrassing end to this little saga...and now we get to look forward to a few months of every single one of our players being touted around the top 6.
Silence from the board has been cringe worthy, and Les Reed's statement a farce. MoPo's bolting for the door in the face of a few quid is reviling.
Laughing stock of football tonight...thanks for nothing, Saints....
b ollocks mate
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: What a sad, and embarrassing end to this little saga...and now we get to look forward to a few months of every single one of our players being touted around the top 6. Silence from the board has been cringe worthy, and Les Reed's statement a farce. MoPo's bolting for the door in the face of a few quid is reviling. Laughing stock of football tonight...thanks for nothing, Saints....[/p][/quote]b ollocks mate florida saint
  • Score: 3

10:22pm Tue 27 May 14

1st May we were there says...

F·»ck them all. The only way to come out of this of this is to come out fighting, be a stronger unit , win games and finish higher than this year. If you want to stay, great. If not then get out now, we don't need you.
F·»ck them all. The only way to come out of this of this is to come out fighting, be a stronger unit , win games and finish higher than this year. If you want to stay, great. If not then get out now, we don't need you. 1st May we were there
  • Score: 5

10:35pm Tue 27 May 14

florida saint says...

1st May we were there wrote:
F·»ck them all. The only way to come out of this of this is to come out fighting, be a stronger unit , win games and finish higher than this year. If you want to stay, great. If not then get out now, we don't need you.
nice one 1st just as benali said last week.
[quote][p][bold]1st May we were there[/bold] wrote: F·»ck them all. The only way to come out of this of this is to come out fighting, be a stronger unit , win games and finish higher than this year. If you want to stay, great. If not then get out now, we don't need you.[/p][/quote]nice one 1st just as benali said last week. florida saint
  • Score: 6

10:38pm Tue 27 May 14

florida saint says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
Loads of negative rubbish on here tonight. It's a setback but we can still move forward - we are still in a good place.

And to suggest KL is asset stripping after all the money she has invested is laughable!
agree Epsom, like we arnt used to it. we have to just move on.... u t s
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: Loads of negative rubbish on here tonight. It's a setback but we can still move forward - we are still in a good place. And to suggest KL is asset stripping after all the money she has invested is laughable![/p][/quote]agree Epsom, like we arnt used to it. we have to just move on.... u t s florida saint
  • Score: 2

10:42pm Tue 27 May 14

florida saint says...

MiltonRoad wrote:
Butt_the_nut wrote:
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
35 years? We just finished 8th in the PL and, after 35 yrs you think now is the time to bail out? Do you remember Administration......

...League 1..........Rupert Lowe........Ian Branfoot?????
Strange.........
why.. because you are a saints fan...
[quote][p][bold]MiltonRoad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh[/p][/quote]35 years? We just finished 8th in the PL and, after 35 yrs you think now is the time to bail out? Do you remember Administration...... ...League 1..........Rupert Lowe........Ian Branfoot????? Strange.........[/p][/quote]why.. because you are a saints fan... florida saint
  • Score: 1

10:45pm Tue 27 May 14

Saint Jinx says...

I think the board has been overwhelmed and Poch has outtmanoeuvred them. I still feel that Poch lost affinity for the club after Cortese left.
I think the board has been overwhelmed and Poch has outtmanoeuvred them. I still feel that Poch lost affinity for the club after Cortese left. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 3

11:19pm Tue 27 May 14

Slick Saint says...

damoose wrote:
We should bring back ` Lucky Nige` to finish what he started..Pooch only put Nige`s players in different positions,they were still all Nigels players except for Osvaldo.let`s not forget Adkins was on the verge of turning things around before he was sacked..if not then we go for the Great Bisela himself,and get the master instead of one of his mercenary pupil`s
I agree. Everyone has raved about Poch but he had no plan B. Nigel took us up and it was he that had the team moving forward before being sacked. Other than Lovren, Pochettino did not bring in any decent players.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: We should bring back ` Lucky Nige` to finish what he started..Pooch only put Nige`s players in different positions,they were still all Nigels players except for Osvaldo.let`s not forget Adkins was on the verge of turning things around before he was sacked..if not then we go for the Great Bisela himself,and get the master instead of one of his mercenary pupil`s[/p][/quote]I agree. Everyone has raved about Poch but he had no plan B. Nigel took us up and it was he that had the team moving forward before being sacked. Other than Lovren, Pochettino did not bring in any decent players. Slick Saint
  • Score: 0

11:27pm Tue 27 May 14

Santa Retfordia says...

LFCalways wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
LFCalways wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
LFCalways wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....
How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?
if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure
That's nice. I think I can speak for all Saints fans when I say I couldn't give a fcuk what Suarez does or doesn't do. What are you doing here?
Im from southampton.......an d been reading all the posts like everyone else....and im just amazed by most saints fans can see what your board is doing to your club (except the courtesy family who had ambition) are ruining your club. Is this what you really want from your club?
I don't think you have the faintest clue what the board has planned for this club.

More importantly, why do you support Liverpool? Are you some glory hunting shitbag?
[quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....[/p][/quote]How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?[/p][/quote]if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure[/p][/quote]That's nice. I think I can speak for all Saints fans when I say I couldn't give a fcuk what Suarez does or doesn't do. What are you doing here?[/p][/quote]Im from southampton.......an d been reading all the posts like everyone else....and im just amazed by most saints fans can see what your board is doing to your club (except the courtesy family who had ambition) are ruining your club. Is this what you really want from your club?[/p][/quote]I don't think you have the faintest clue what the board has planned for this club. More importantly, why do you support Liverpool? Are you some glory hunting shitbag? Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 4

11:42pm Tue 27 May 14

saints4eva12 says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
I agree with you kl loves the club
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]I agree with you kl loves the club saints4eva12
  • Score: 0

11:43pm Tue 27 May 14

Malcombe says...

1st May we were there. That wonderful day May 1st 1976 was my 33rd Birthday, lovely Birthday present you might think except my first wife threw her Dinner over me consisting of Lettuce, Beetroot and Salad Cream because I wasn't paying her any attention, I may forget many things but not that day for one good and one bad reason and I can still remember that wonderful Team
1st May we were there. That wonderful day May 1st 1976 was my 33rd Birthday, lovely Birthday present you might think except my first wife threw her Dinner over me consisting of Lettuce, Beetroot and Salad Cream because I wasn't paying her any attention, I may forget many things but not that day for one good and one bad reason and I can still remember that wonderful Team Malcombe
  • Score: 0

11:49pm Tue 27 May 14

SaintSteve76 says...

florida saint wrote:
MiltonRoad wrote:
Butt_the_nut wrote:
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
35 years? We just finished 8th in the PL and, after 35 yrs you think now is the time to bail out? Do you remember Administration......


...League 1..........Rupert Lowe........Ian Branfoot?????
Strange.........
why.. because you are a saints fan...
I think the point is this; I have had a season ticket and supported the Saints through thick and thin over twenty years. When we were relegated I continued supporting and travelling to away games because I understood the difficult situation the club was in and felt that they deserved my hard earned money. However, if a lack of ambition is being shown by Ralph and Katherina at this moment in time, I simply cannot understand it! We have a fantastic team and we had a fantastic manager who with one or two additions, could have realistically guided us to the champions league. We may not have a team as good as this for many years to come so to show a lack of ambition now is infuriating.
[quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MiltonRoad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh[/p][/quote]35 years? We just finished 8th in the PL and, after 35 yrs you think now is the time to bail out? Do you remember Administration...... ...League 1..........Rupert Lowe........Ian Branfoot????? Strange.........[/p][/quote]why.. because you are a saints fan...[/p][/quote]I think the point is this; I have had a season ticket and supported the Saints through thick and thin over twenty years. When we were relegated I continued supporting and travelling to away games because I understood the difficult situation the club was in and felt that they deserved my hard earned money. However, if a lack of ambition is being shown by Ralph and Katherina at this moment in time, I simply cannot understand it! We have a fantastic team and we had a fantastic manager who with one or two additions, could have realistically guided us to the champions league. We may not have a team as good as this for many years to come so to show a lack of ambition now is infuriating. SaintSteve76
  • Score: 1

11:55pm Tue 27 May 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Kreuger has got to get on the blower to Sherwood pronto - do it tomorrow.....
Kreuger has got to get on the blower to Sherwood pronto - do it tomorrow..... Jan28th1984
  • Score: -2

12:18am Wed 28 May 14

issacchunt says...

People need to get real, we're a small club and managers get sacked if crap or get taken if good. Similar for players, anyone shocked or dissapointed is a dreamer. Not the boards fault just down to the managers ambition.

Saints may well lose this seasons best players but deal with it and look forward to the next batch to do us a great job before being pinched. Like playing cards no one shows there hand.
People need to get real, we're a small club and managers get sacked if crap or get taken if good. Similar for players, anyone shocked or dissapointed is a dreamer. Not the boards fault just down to the managers ambition. Saints may well lose this seasons best players but deal with it and look forward to the next batch to do us a great job before being pinched. Like playing cards no one shows there hand. issacchunt
  • Score: -1

12:18am Wed 28 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

miltonarcher wrote:
What are the odds, first home game of the season v guess who?
19 to 1 :-)
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: What are the odds, first home game of the season v guess who?[/p][/quote]19 to 1 :-) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

12:20am Wed 28 May 14

deepheat says...

Murat Yakin and Ronald Koeman seem to be neck and neck in the betting. If I was chairman of Saints I would go for a different style than MP. I would go all out for Rafa Benitez
Murat Yakin and Ronald Koeman seem to be neck and neck in the betting. If I was chairman of Saints I would go for a different style than MP. I would go all out for Rafa Benitez deepheat
  • Score: -1

12:33am Wed 28 May 14

Les Miserables says...

Call me a cynic but why do you suppose they brought forward the renewal deadline for season tickets? It has always been mid June and suddenly its May 31st despite next season starting a couple of weeks later than usual due to the World Cup. Seems to me they want to get of our money before the summer of asset stripping gets going and season ticket sales fall through the floor.
So much for the "no one is leaving" speech of a couple of weeks back!!!
Our chairman and his board clearly lack ambition,backbone and honesty.
Call me a cynic but why do you suppose they brought forward the renewal deadline for season tickets? It has always been mid June and suddenly its May 31st despite next season starting a couple of weeks later than usual due to the World Cup. Seems to me they want to get of our money before the summer of asset stripping gets going and season ticket sales fall through the floor. So much for the "no one is leaving" speech of a couple of weeks back!!! Our chairman and his board clearly lack ambition,backbone and honesty. Les Miserables
  • Score: -1

1:25am Wed 28 May 14

PHEZZ14 says...

Block 42 wrote:
ralph kruger and the board have absolutely no ambition at all. what next let me guess we sell luke shaw???pathetic..the

n what lallana?why stop there..cannot blame pochettino at all for leaving.saints have no chance of making champions league by selling assets..hope he does well with spurs.hes a good manager and deserves success..just hope he dosnr buy our players.
No ambition,let's not forget we offered MoPo 3 times what his current contract stated.

If he wants to go let him go and that goes for players as well. If they want to leave and play champions league football then let them....for the right price.

People have been slating Les Reed on here for his footballing decisions but I don't think people realise that he was making the same decisions when Cortesse was chairman, he was instrumental in bringing MoPo to the club and the person who initially recommended him.

Reed has contacts across Europe and knows how to progress the academy. Let's wait and see who is appointed. I am not in favour of Benitez due to his negative style of play but would look at Paul Clement at Madrid or Yakin.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: ralph kruger and the board have absolutely no ambition at all. what next let me guess we sell luke shaw???pathetic..the n what lallana?why stop there..cannot blame pochettino at all for leaving.saints have no chance of making champions league by selling assets..hope he does well with spurs.hes a good manager and deserves success..just hope he dosnr buy our players.[/p][/quote]No ambition,let's not forget we offered MoPo 3 times what his current contract stated. If he wants to go let him go and that goes for players as well. If they want to leave and play champions league football then let them....for the right price. People have been slating Les Reed on here for his footballing decisions but I don't think people realise that he was making the same decisions when Cortesse was chairman, he was instrumental in bringing MoPo to the club and the person who initially recommended him. Reed has contacts across Europe and knows how to progress the academy. Let's wait and see who is appointed. I am not in favour of Benitez due to his negative style of play but would look at Paul Clement at Madrid or Yakin. PHEZZ14
  • Score: 2

1:58am Wed 28 May 14

Bwana23 says...

only1chopper wrote:
we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke?
Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.
He did not need permission to talk, always in his contract for final year!! What could the Club do if he was determined to leave?? He wanted more money and apparent prestige and I suspect most of you would consider a job change for double your salary. I suspect the Board have been aware for several weeks now that this was happening but really there was not a lot they could do apart from wait and keep quiet!!
[quote][p][bold]only1chopper[/bold] wrote: we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke? Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.[/p][/quote]He did not need permission to talk, always in his contract for final year!! What could the Club do if he was determined to leave?? He wanted more money and apparent prestige and I suspect most of you would consider a job change for double your salary. I suspect the Board have been aware for several weeks now that this was happening but really there was not a lot they could do apart from wait and keep quiet!! Bwana23
  • Score: 1

2:57am Wed 28 May 14

Galapagos Saint says...

SHOCK HORROR...Stop the press..."No loyalty in football!"

Why is everyone so surprised and angry. Players/managers hide behind the ambition/trophies excuse but its all about the money

It's all about the money, money, money
He went for the money, money, money
He just wanna raise his balance,
Poch has got a price tag
It's about the cha-ching cha-ching
It's all about the ba-bling ba-bling
He just wanna cash advance
Poch has got a price tag
SHOCK HORROR...Stop the press..."No loyalty in football!" Why is everyone so surprised and angry. Players/managers hide behind the ambition/trophies excuse but its all about the money It's all about the money, money, money He went for the money, money, money He just wanna raise his balance, Poch has got a price tag It's about the cha-ching cha-ching It's all about the ba-bling ba-bling He just wanna cash advance Poch has got a price tag Galapagos Saint
  • Score: 0

9:12am Wed 28 May 14

LFCalways says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
LFCalways wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
LFCalways wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
LFCalways wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....
How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?
if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure
That's nice. I think I can speak for all Saints fans when I say I couldn't give a fcuk what Suarez does or doesn't do. What are you doing here?
Im from southampton.......an d been reading all the posts like everyone else....and im just amazed by most saints fans can see what your board is doing to your club (except the courtesy family who had ambition) are ruining your club. Is this what you really want from your club?
I don't think you have the faintest clue what the board has planned for this club.

More importantly, why do you support Liverpool? Are you some glory hunting shitbag?
What the hell do you know nothing........The same old reaction glory hunting,,,,,,get your facts right been supporting them for 37yrs through good and bad times.
What do i know..... i was right months ago on everything thats happened in your club and you don't have to be genius to see that, unless your a fool and believe the crap your board is coming out with....or nothing to be correct
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: I can not believe some saints fans saying that "sell some players and use that money to reshape your team"..........that is the whole reason other clubs come knocking on your door.for years and the same story now! As a club you should say F Off to clubs who want your players, but you got the same idea as your board...... sell your players every time....[/p][/quote]How much will you get when Suarez joins the European Champions?[/p][/quote]if im correct we told him Suarez and Madrid (European Champions) he was not for sale last season......and if what was "stated by Suarez himself" on Sky Sports News" he is going now where as his family are happy were they are.........but if he does go we be looking around 100mill for sure, we do not want him to go but if he does I and rest of the Liverpool fans will wish him well for sure[/p][/quote]That's nice. I think I can speak for all Saints fans when I say I couldn't give a fcuk what Suarez does or doesn't do. What are you doing here?[/p][/quote]Im from southampton.......an d been reading all the posts like everyone else....and im just amazed by most saints fans can see what your board is doing to your club (except the courtesy family who had ambition) are ruining your club. Is this what you really want from your club?[/p][/quote]I don't think you have the faintest clue what the board has planned for this club. More importantly, why do you support Liverpool? Are you some glory hunting shitbag?[/p][/quote]What the hell do you know nothing........The same old reaction glory hunting,,,,,,get your facts right been supporting them for 37yrs through good and bad times. What do i know..... i was right months ago on everything thats happened in your club and you don't have to be genius to see that, unless your a fool and believe the crap your board is coming out with....or nothing to be correct LFCalways
  • Score: 0

9:31am Wed 28 May 14

jls217 says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
upwherewebelong wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league
I can remember back to the early 70s !!! And what exactly are the board supposed to do if the manager will not sign a new contract and he only has a year left on his contract. He was offered a new improved contract to be the highest paid saints manager ever but unfortunately there is no loyalty in football now both from clubs or managers or players for that matter. And to compare it to hoddles departure is crazy. Hoddle was a spurs legend and to be offered to be manager of your home town club so to speak meant we would never keep him , even if Lowe was a complete t#sser.
Ok cool I had to pose the question re memory as you never know the age of posters do you. As for your question what are the board supposed to do ? well in my opinion its simple. Refuse the resignation and put MP on gardening leave for 1 year remaining on contract and appoint replacement is one option. Another is the board are supposed to show US the FANS and MP they can match his ambition by refusing ANY offers for ANY of our players. Sadly Krueger doesn't have the mental strength to do this. The issue with him is there is no emotional attachment to SFC. I worry for the club with him at the helm as he doesn't seem to care for us. His statements are in my opinion just empty words
Very noble ideas but living in the real world if someone wants to go to another club one who are a bigger what's the point in getting in the way. Unlike us managers are not supporters they have no allegiance to the club like we do . I am disappointed that MP has gone but not as disappointed as when we were skint and got relegated twice in quick succession. I would like to keep Shaw and Lallana but if clubs like Liverpool and United offer stupid money for them how do you stand in their way. Bale left spurs to go to Real as did Ronaldo but from utd obviously , they have long term contracts but they are not worth the paper they are written on, money talks in football , ask Yaya Toure's why he wants to go to PSG ??
Right on the button mate - thanks. Something to consider is that if we put a player and/or a manager on gardening leave he is of no monetary value to the business (I'm no longer going to refer to Saints as a club - clubs died years ago and became nothing but milk cows or launderettes for dirty money) is that we, the blind faithful will be paying the wages for an asset we can't use and there will be no money coming for that individual. At least we got 2M for Pochettino (or maybe he negotiated his way out of that too - who knows)
He may have been a good manager whilst here but he's reneged on his agreement with the club so huck fim and good riddance. Send in the next candidate please.
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]upwherewebelong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]why do so many people think this board can do no wrong. And in case you aren't old enough to remember the way Rupert Lowe allowed Spurs to steal Hoddle from us that is what I mean with my comparison which I think is justified as Lowe just let Hoddle leave and resignation or not appears Krueger has done the same. Sadly it seems like he's out of his depth managing a proper business in a really competitive league[/p][/quote]I can remember back to the early 70s !!! And what exactly are the board supposed to do if the manager will not sign a new contract and he only has a year left on his contract. He was offered a new improved contract to be the highest paid saints manager ever but unfortunately there is no loyalty in football now both from clubs or managers or players for that matter. And to compare it to hoddles departure is crazy. Hoddle was a spurs legend and to be offered to be manager of your home town club so to speak meant we would never keep him , even if Lowe was a complete t#sser.[/p][/quote]Ok cool I had to pose the question re memory as you never know the age of posters do you. As for your question what are the board supposed to do ? well in my opinion its simple. Refuse the resignation and put MP on gardening leave for 1 year remaining on contract and appoint replacement is one option. Another is the board are supposed to show US the FANS and MP they can match his ambition by refusing ANY offers for ANY of our players. Sadly Krueger doesn't have the mental strength to do this. The issue with him is there is no emotional attachment to SFC. I worry for the club with him at the helm as he doesn't seem to care for us. His statements are in my opinion just empty words[/p][/quote]Very noble ideas but living in the real world if someone wants to go to another club one who are a bigger what's the point in getting in the way. Unlike us managers are not supporters they have no allegiance to the club like we do . I am disappointed that MP has gone but not as disappointed as when we were skint and got relegated twice in quick succession. I would like to keep Shaw and Lallana but if clubs like Liverpool and United offer stupid money for them how do you stand in their way. Bale left spurs to go to Real as did Ronaldo but from utd obviously , they have long term contracts but they are not worth the paper they are written on, money talks in football , ask Yaya Toure's why he wants to go to PSG ??[/p][/quote]Right on the button mate - thanks. Something to consider is that if we put a player and/or a manager on gardening leave he is of no monetary value to the business (I'm no longer going to refer to Saints as a club - clubs died years ago and became nothing but milk cows or launderettes for dirty money) is that we, the blind faithful will be paying the wages for an asset we can't use and there will be no money coming for that individual. At least we got 2M for Pochettino (or maybe he negotiated his way out of that too - who knows) He may have been a good manager whilst here but he's reneged on his agreement with the club so huck fim and good riddance. Send in the next candidate please. jls217
  • Score: 0

9:42am Wed 28 May 14

jls217 says...

bitterne barry wrote:
Well he has gone but Mr Krueger please be more open and give us details of what the Saints were prepared to offer him, such as new salary and how much would be avaliable to purchase new players I appreciate the fact that we could not match Spurs offer but I am sure that the regular fans would like to know how far you were prepared to go.
As much as I would like to know too BB It's unlikely a business will give you the whole truth on any negotiations or method thereof. It would seem we matched or came so close so as not to make too much difference to the Spurs offer, maybe something else in the Spurs offer proved too attractive or maybe he was making other demands of the board that they could not agree to. I doubt we'll ever really know the truth.
No business will allow anyone other than the authorities access to all of their info and as recent court cases show even then they will doctor it hastily of dispose of it conveniently. Up to and including the witnesses in some businesses it seems.
I doubt any fan can believe one single word that they did not hear from the horses mouth themselves, and that goes for what's in the papers, on the news, from a politician, from a football player, from a priest, even the virgin Mary told a porky for goodness sake. Depressing innit?
[quote][p][bold]bitterne barry[/bold] wrote: Well he has gone but Mr Krueger please be more open and give us details of what the Saints were prepared to offer him, such as new salary and how much would be avaliable to purchase new players I appreciate the fact that we could not match Spurs offer but I am sure that the regular fans would like to know how far you were prepared to go.[/p][/quote]As much as I would like to know too BB It's unlikely a business will give you the whole truth on any negotiations or method thereof. It would seem we matched or came so close so as not to make too much difference to the Spurs offer, maybe something else in the Spurs offer proved too attractive or maybe he was making other demands of the board that they could not agree to. I doubt we'll ever really know the truth. No business will allow anyone other than the authorities access to all of their info and as recent court cases show even then they will doctor it hastily of dispose of it conveniently. Up to and including the witnesses in some businesses it seems. I doubt any fan can believe one single word that they did not hear from the horses mouth themselves, and that goes for what's in the papers, on the news, from a politician, from a football player, from a priest, even the virgin Mary told a porky for goodness sake. Depressing innit? jls217
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10:00am Wed 28 May 14

jls217 says...

SaintSteve76 wrote:
florida saint wrote:
MiltonRoad wrote:
Butt_the_nut wrote:
Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh
35 years? We just finished 8th in the PL and, after 35 yrs you think now is the time to bail out? Do you remember Administration......



...League 1..........Rupert Lowe........Ian Branfoot?????
Strange.........
why.. because you are a saints fan...
I think the point is this; I have had a season ticket and supported the Saints through thick and thin over twenty years. When we were relegated I continued supporting and travelling to away games because I understood the difficult situation the club was in and felt that they deserved my hard earned money. However, if a lack of ambition is being shown by Ralph and Katherina at this moment in time, I simply cannot understand it! We have a fantastic team and we had a fantastic manager who with one or two additions, could have realistically guided us to the champions league. We may not have a team as good as this for many years to come so to show a lack of ambition now is infuriating.
You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink - heard of that saying?
This board did not make a player or a manager want to leave- he is responsible for that decision. IF Pochettino had wanted to stay he would not have kept us all on the edge of our seats all this time and would have turned down any offer from elsewhere. This decision making process has probably months in the making. IF any number of the players want to go it's because they have been made a better offer elsewhere and they make the decision to go. Not the board.
Now let's put you on the board, or better still the owner with Kat's money, are you going to throw whatever it takes at a business even if your analysts are saying the business is not worth the risk. Are you going to spend every single penny you have to keep an unhappy manager/player when you know that no matter what you offer there is another owner out there with bottomless pits of possibly laundered or illicitly gained fortunes. Are you going to risk bankruptcy for yourself and the various businesses you own. OR - are you going to ensure that business is run carefully, prudently and profitably and most of all sustainably. The ambition of any board of any business is to run it at a profit to themselves. Just like we do when we do our housekeeping and decide what we can spend. Wanting a cinema room built on to my house so I can watch the world cup in absolute comfort is my ambition, so why don't I do it? Because the best I can run to is what I already have. Having a Bentley in my drive is an ambition - why don't I go and buy one? Because my budget runs to a second hand Jag. Beginning to get the picture?
I await your reply
[quote][p][bold]SaintSteve76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]florida saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MiltonRoad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Butt_the_nut[/bold] wrote: Thumbs down me all you like, ive supported saints through thick and thin for 35 years, why should i waste my hard earned money and time supporting a club with not an ounce of ambition or who are prepared to lie to thier fans. Where is the transparency now?? CL dont make me laugh[/p][/quote]35 years? We just finished 8th in the PL and, after 35 yrs you think now is the time to bail out? Do you remember Administration...... ...League 1..........Rupert Lowe........Ian Branfoot????? Strange.........[/p][/quote]why.. because you are a saints fan...[/p][/quote]I think the point is this; I have had a season ticket and supported the Saints through thick and thin over twenty years. When we were relegated I continued supporting and travelling to away games because I understood the difficult situation the club was in and felt that they deserved my hard earned money. However, if a lack of ambition is being shown by Ralph and Katherina at this moment in time, I simply cannot understand it! We have a fantastic team and we had a fantastic manager who with one or two additions, could have realistically guided us to the champions league. We may not have a team as good as this for many years to come so to show a lack of ambition now is infuriating.[/p][/quote]You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink - heard of that saying? This board did not make a player or a manager want to leave- he is responsible for that decision. IF Pochettino had wanted to stay he would not have kept us all on the edge of our seats all this time and would have turned down any offer from elsewhere. This decision making process has probably months in the making. IF any number of the players want to go it's because they have been made a better offer elsewhere and they make the decision to go. Not the board. Now let's put you on the board, or better still the owner with Kat's money, are you going to throw whatever it takes at a business even if your analysts are saying the business is not worth the risk. Are you going to spend every single penny you have to keep an unhappy manager/player when you know that no matter what you offer there is another owner out there with bottomless pits of possibly laundered or illicitly gained fortunes. Are you going to risk bankruptcy for yourself and the various businesses you own. OR - are you going to ensure that business is run carefully, prudently and profitably and most of all sustainably. The ambition of any board of any business is to run it at a profit to themselves. Just like we do when we do our housekeeping and decide what we can spend. Wanting a cinema room built on to my house so I can watch the world cup in absolute comfort is my ambition, so why don't I do it? Because the best I can run to is what I already have. Having a Bentley in my drive is an ambition - why don't I go and buy one? Because my budget runs to a second hand Jag. Beginning to get the picture? I await your reply jls217
  • Score: 0

10:08am Wed 28 May 14

jls217 says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Accounts for summer 2014;

Premier league and Sky money £115m
season tickets £10m
transfers out £225m
Other £5m

Total £355m

total spend;
Transfers in £12m
wages £100m


Net profit £243m

*estimate only, based on recent analysis by merchant of doom*

This company would be deemed to be a huge success in any other market.
A very accurate assessment of the financial situation.

Following your club's capital restructuring during summer 2013, your owner is now able to pay herself dividends based on these figures for income and profit. All the information you need to know is contained in documents freely available at Companies House, if you know where to look and can understand them. I have drawn your attention to these facts repeatedly, and received in return nothing but abuse. So who is laughing now?
Ahh Skating on thick as tish is weighing with his Asperger's OCD re Companies House again. The reason you receive nothing but abuse knob head is that you are about the easiest target ever to be presented to us. You really do need to forget about Companies House and find your local doctor's surgery house, there you will receive the guidance required to help you understand you're brigging farking. Who's laughing now? Every Saints fan in the country doom brain, If you are hearing voices urging you to set yourself up like this there is a remedy. Engage 'em in a conversation, you're such a boring **** they'll soon leave, or are they the only friends, outside of Companies House, that you have. Please go away and wallow with the other socially unnacceptable in good ole Pay up Pimpey.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Accounts for summer 2014; Premier league and Sky money £115m season tickets £10m transfers out £225m Other £5m Total £355m total spend; Transfers in £12m wages £100m Net profit £243m *estimate only, based on recent analysis by merchant of doom* This company would be deemed to be a huge success in any other market.[/p][/quote]A very accurate assessment of the financial situation. Following your club's capital restructuring during summer 2013, your owner is now able to pay herself dividends based on these figures for income and profit. All the information you need to know is contained in documents freely available at Companies House, if you know where to look and can understand them. I have drawn your attention to these facts repeatedly, and received in return nothing but abuse. So who is laughing now?[/p][/quote]Ahh Skating on thick as tish is weighing with his Asperger's OCD re Companies House again. The reason you receive nothing but abuse knob head is that you are about the easiest target ever to be presented to us. You really do need to forget about Companies House and find your local doctor's surgery house, there you will receive the guidance required to help you understand you're brigging farking. Who's laughing now? Every Saints fan in the country doom brain, If you are hearing voices urging you to set yourself up like this there is a remedy. Engage 'em in a conversation, you're such a boring **** they'll soon leave, or are they the only friends, outside of Companies House, that you have. Please go away and wallow with the other socially unnacceptable in good ole Pay up Pimpey. jls217
  • Score: 0

10:20am Wed 28 May 14

jls217 says...

andygoater1957 wrote:
only1chopper wrote:
we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke?
Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.
We all now the answer to that.
Perhaps you'd like to pass on what you know to me then andy. Here's one who hasn't got a clue other than we've just had a manager walk out on us with one year left on his contract.
So pray enlighten me as to what it is that everyone except me seems to have access to. Minutes of meetings, tapes of conversation, film of money passing hands - what is this evidence we all have on which we all seem to have been able to draw a conclusion on - because sorry mate it all bypassed me. I don't want to be the only one on the South coast who doesn't know the answer so please andy help me out with your wisdom and knowledge of all that has gone on of late.
I await your enlightened reply.
[quote][p][bold]andygoater1957[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]only1chopper[/bold] wrote: we want answers, not empty words. why did he go, why did we give them permission to talk to him. are we selling adam and luke? Poch either has no loyalty to the club or the saints board are cashing in on our valuable assets. like i say, i want answers.[/p][/quote]We all now the answer to that.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you'd like to pass on what you know to me then andy. Here's one who hasn't got a clue other than we've just had a manager walk out on us with one year left on his contract. So pray enlighten me as to what it is that everyone except me seems to have access to. Minutes of meetings, tapes of conversation, film of money passing hands - what is this evidence we all have on which we all seem to have been able to draw a conclusion on - because sorry mate it all bypassed me. I don't want to be the only one on the South coast who doesn't know the answer so please andy help me out with your wisdom and knowledge of all that has gone on of late. I await your enlightened reply. jls217
  • Score: 0

10:28am Wed 28 May 14

jls217 says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
I'm not disappointed in the board because I think MoPo would have gone regardless. However, their actions over the next few weeks are vital. If we appoint one of those mediocre managers on the merry-go-round that the bookies are lining up as a replacement (Sherwood, Malky, Poyet etc) then I'll take that as a sign of a genuine lack of ambition. But if we go for a Laudrup or that dude from Basle or someone who was a bit under the radar (as Poch was) but who turns out to have a conviction in playing the game in a fresh new way then I'm behind Ralph 100%. We still have Les Reed at the club, and I'm fairly sure it was him who pinpointed MoPo and I reckon he can do it again. Wait and see is all I'm saying.
Interesting reading Santa. My instincts tell me your assessment is close to the mark.

A name which seems to have been missed simply because he's a manager working his way up as opposed to an established name already is Uwe Rosler he has the added advantage of wearing a Saints shirt and in football circles is being talked about a man for the future. A great pro who would not stand for carp from any source. Interesting times for us Saints fans eh!?
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: I'm not disappointed in the board because I think MoPo would have gone regardless. However, their actions over the next few weeks are vital. If we appoint one of those mediocre managers on the merry-go-round that the bookies are lining up as a replacement (Sherwood, Malky, Poyet etc) then I'll take that as a sign of a genuine lack of ambition. But if we go for a Laudrup or that dude from Basle or someone who was a bit under the radar (as Poch was) but who turns out to have a conviction in playing the game in a fresh new way then I'm behind Ralph 100%. We still have Les Reed at the club, and I'm fairly sure it was him who pinpointed MoPo and I reckon he can do it again. Wait and see is all I'm saying.[/p][/quote]Interesting reading Santa. My instincts tell me your assessment is close to the mark. A name which seems to have been missed simply because he's a manager working his way up as opposed to an established name already is Uwe Rosler he has the added advantage of wearing a Saints shirt and in football circles is being talked about a man for the future. A great pro who would not stand for carp from any source. Interesting times for us Saints fans eh!? jls217
  • Score: 0

11:08am Wed 28 May 14

lowe esteem says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Sounds to me like Ralph wants a yes man who can work with a small budget, we'll Ralph I will not be contributing to your budget , I am not willing to line your pockets and get nothing in return. Seems to me you are doing your best to ruin a very good football club,time will tell.
There goes a Poch at all costs man...silly really.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: Sounds to me like Ralph wants a yes man who can work with a small budget, we'll Ralph I will not be contributing to your budget , I am not willing to line your pockets and get nothing in return. Seems to me you are doing your best to ruin a very good football club,time will tell.[/p][/quote]There goes a Poch at all costs man...silly really. lowe esteem
  • Score: 0

12:23pm Wed 28 May 14

Jesus_02 says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .
The thing that you fail to resize is that the size of the board has grown and their salaries probably come to a lot more than Cortese's when added together..

Is it really that ludicrous to compare them with Lowe. No idea about football, no business sense (she is the heir, not the empire builder)

Ralphs words are empty...he must have known that he was leaving. They should have been looking for a replacement long ago... or are they trying to work out who will be dressing the players still?
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Too many on here still stuck up Cortese arse , wake up and smell the coffee , . If you owned a corner shop would you pay the manager the same wage as the manager of Harrods. If you own a club your entitled to know what you are getting for your money and if your paying a princes ransom what they get back in return. And to compare the current owners and chairmen with Rupert Lowe is ludicrous .[/p][/quote]The thing that you fail to resize is that the size of the board has grown and their salaries probably come to a lot more than Cortese's when added together.. Is it really that ludicrous to compare them with Lowe. No idea about football, no business sense (she is the heir, not the empire builder) Ralphs words are empty...he must have known that he was leaving. They should have been looking for a replacement long ago... or are they trying to work out who will be dressing the players still? Jesus_02
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