Getting inside Poch's mind: The questions to ponder over switch to Spurs

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Mauricio Pochettino to Tottenham. Will it happen?

It’s the question that everybody’s asking, but one currently impossible to offer a definitive answer to.

It is hardly a well guarded secret that Pochettino is on the Spurs wanted list and that they are highly likely to want to speak with him regarding the vacancy.

However, Spurs are a Premier League club so they are going to chat to everybody on their shortlist before making any decisions.

Obviously they have to offer him the job before he could accept it.

Q: Would he accept it?

A: That will probably become clear in his mind if, and when, he does speak with them.

Pochettino is a hot property.

We have heard people say just how carefully he plans his career and so he will have to be convinced Tottenham fits into his plans as well.

And, once again, he actually has to be offered it in the first place.

Q: Would Tottenham not just be a sideways move?

A: There has been a lot of debate about this.

One argument is looking at the clubs over the past year that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar, or at least could become so with the nucleus of the squad Pochettino has at his disposal.

However, with all due respect to Saints, you have to say at this exact moment Spurs sit at the bottom of that next bracket up.

They have the funds to invest in the team by all accounts and are ambitious.

They already have European football for next season and want to push for the Champions League.

Q: Surely that’s a hiding to nothing – how are Spurs going to break the top four?

A: It won’t be easy.

Look at the likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, this season’s top four who are all set to strengthen this summer.

Then factor in Manchester United under Louis van Gaal and the substantial investment that will take place at Old Trafford.

To pick out two of those sides that Spurs are going to finish above takes a fair bit of creative licence.

But having lost another manager and made noises about using more young talent, surely Spurs want some stability and continuity to aim for the top four over a period of a few seasons rather than expecting instant results.

Q: In terms of that career path of Pochettino’s, how would a move to Spurs or staying at Saints fit in?

A: Pochettino is understood to want to manage a genuinely big club one day.

A real giant in the world of football.

He will inevitably, therefore, have his eye on the best way to get there.

Making that sort of jump direct from Saints as they are now is unlikely.

Even if you finish eighth for a couple of seasons in a row, it’s highly improbable you jump from that to some mega club.

So there needs to be a stepping stone on the way.

Tottenham could provide that.

As already discussed, it’s not an easy job but if you achieve with them then big offers could come your way.

Q: Can’t Saints provide him with that opportunity?

A: Yes. Definitely yes.

But that comes with the caveat that it requires substantial investment in the team.

Pochettino has given the impression in recent weeks that big investment in the playing squad is required to make the next step up he requires and if it were to forthcoming it could convince him to stay anyway.

If he thinks that he can push on and achieve loftier targets with Saints, then it stands to reason that he’s on to a good thing here.

Q: He is in a position of power at Saints. Surely it won’t be the same at Tottenham?

A: That is true.

Saints really need him. Desperately.

If he stays, they have a chance of holding everything together.

If he goes, it could spark a real domino effect.

Ever since Nicola Cortese departed Pochettino has very much been allowed to be his own man.

Nobody would dare question him or interfere with what he’s doing.

They simply haven’t been able to afford to risk upsetting him.

At Tottenham he will have to prove himself all over again, and he will be under much greater scrutiny.

Q: And how about Franco Baldini?

A: That’s another factor, with Baldini in situ as the director of football at White Hart Lane.

Pochettino would have to be happy to work in that system.

In one respect, it’s unlikely to bother him too much. Most foreign managers are far more used to this type of system than what we view as the traditional English way of doing things.

However, that almost total control and autonomy that he commands at Saints is quite attractive.

Q: What can Saints do to keep him?

A: Well, firstly he has to be offered a different job.

Pochettino is no fool and if he doesn’t get what he considers to be a better offer he will stay.

He has already been offered a bumper new deal by Saints, one they cannot really improve upon.

Q: Why hasn’t he signed yet then?

A: That is the question everybody is asking.

The only logical conclusion is that he is waiting on something.

One theory is that he is waiting on assurances from the board regarding the future.

The other is that he is keeping his options open and holding out to see if he does get offered the Tottenham job.

Q: It would be better for Saints if he just signed...

A: Of course it would, but if it was you in your job then you would keep your options open just to see what is out there.

Q: Will the futures of some of his star players have a bearing on things?

A: Yes. No manager will want to see his top players sold from under him, and Pochettino committing to Saints gives the club the best chance of keeping hold of the likes of Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana.

But Pochettino will be well aware that, with the way modern football is, they could go anyway.

He was a top level player, and so he understands the drill. It’s one of the reasons the players love and respect him so much – he knows what it is like for them and it’s hard to imagine him begrudging them a big chance if it came their way.

What Pochettino would be after is assurances over how the hefty sums of cash the sales would raise will be reinvested.

Even if he hears players are going, it might not be the end of the world ...

... so long as he is told that money can be his to spend as he sees fit.

The ball remains very much in Pochettino’s court.

We wait to see his next move.

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8:15am Fri 16 May 14

Ozmosis says...

For goodness sake!
For goodness sake! Ozmosis
  • Score: 27

8:19am Fri 16 May 14

Norwegian Saint says...

If MoPo goes he will be a fool, he is in a place where he is loved, a job that is a lot safer than that Levy can ever promise.
So, MoPo... stay with a five year plan or go to a team where they are never happy and look over your shoulder all the time dreading the sack?
I didn't like the Spuds when Hoddle went... I hate them even more now!
They get £100million to spend on players and still screw up. They are even trying to pinch our song!
If MoPo goes he will be a fool, he is in a place where he is loved, a job that is a lot safer than that Levy can ever promise. So, MoPo... stay with a five year plan or go to a team where they are never happy and look over your shoulder all the time dreading the sack? I didn't like the Spuds when Hoddle went... I hate them even more now! They get £100million to spend on players and still screw up. They are even trying to pinch our song! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 49

8:25am Fri 16 May 14

Media Saint says...

Can we just buy: Caulker, Ings and Lukaku and get next season started?
Can we just buy: Caulker, Ings and Lukaku and get next season started? Media Saint
  • Score: 28

8:28am Fri 16 May 14

milton road says...

Anopther nonsense article by the Echo amongst several.
Its not as asimple as signing a new contract, they need to work out a plan together for the future, this takes time and why it has been left to the end of the season. I believe Poch will only leave if that plan does not reach someway to what he wants.
I am not so sure Spurs have wads of money to spend, their large invovlement in the transfer market last season was more to do with the selling of Gareth Bale.
Anopther nonsense article by the Echo amongst several. Its not as asimple as signing a new contract, they need to work out a plan together for the future, this takes time and why it has been left to the end of the season. I believe Poch will only leave if that plan does not reach someway to what he wants. I am not so sure Spurs have wads of money to spend, their large invovlement in the transfer market last season was more to do with the selling of Gareth Bale. milton road
  • Score: 1

8:29am Fri 16 May 14

settheSTandard says...

Please Daily Echo gives us some credit. Do you think your readers are incapable of understanding the situation or did you pull it from a fans forum?
Please Daily Echo gives us some credit. Do you think your readers are incapable of understanding the situation or did you pull it from a fans forum? settheSTandard
  • Score: 21

8:30am Fri 16 May 14

Dave Juson says...

The Echo has put down a marker: we are in for a good deal of desperate and utterly pointless Saints’ related “journalism” over the next couple of months.
Beware of people in replica Saints shirts and no sense of humour.
The Echo has put down a marker: we are in for a good deal of desperate and utterly pointless Saints’ related “journalism” over the next couple of months. Beware of people in replica Saints shirts and no sense of humour. Dave Juson
  • Score: 5

8:33am Fri 16 May 14

andoru says...

Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?
Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team? andoru
  • Score: 9

8:34am Fri 16 May 14

Puddletown Saint says...

My answer to all of this and the futures of Adam Luke Spider Jack etc is really simple.
Give it one more season. If we have not or are unlikely not to break the top six by then all of them will have earned the right to move if they wish. The summer of 2015 will have no distractions and they can all concentrate on their careers.
Come on you Saints. You know it makes sense.
My answer to all of this and the futures of Adam Luke Spider Jack etc is really simple. Give it one more season. If we have not or are unlikely not to break the top six by then all of them will have earned the right to move if they wish. The summer of 2015 will have no distractions and they can all concentrate on their careers. Come on you Saints. You know it makes sense. Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 36

8:35am Fri 16 May 14

saint christopher says...

Think DE journalists are now getting desperate. One can imagine imagine them looking wistfully at the window nearest them and wondering when to jump.

I lost the will to live before I'd even got half-way through this pointless dirge pretending to be an in-depth analysis of the current situation.

Fact is, we all know nothing and will continue to know nothing until the club officially says something - and that won't happen until it actually has something definite to say.

Wake me up when this is all over.
Think DE journalists are now getting desperate. One can imagine imagine them looking wistfully at the window nearest them and wondering when to jump. I lost the will to live before I'd even got half-way through this pointless dirge pretending to be an in-depth analysis of the current situation. Fact is, we all know nothing and will continue to know nothing until the club officially says something - and that won't happen until it actually has something definite to say. Wake me up when this is all over. saint christopher
  • Score: 16

8:35am Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Our management team will not go provided the club honour the promises made when they were first brought here about our ambitions.

It's a shame this wasn't sorted out earlier. We had most of the squad coming out, one by one, saying the team needed MoPo and three or four new players. If that had been commited to a month or so ago maybe the deal would already be done and all this uncertainty avoided.

If the rumour of Kasper Schmieichel is true that's a good bit of business for a free. I remember the last 20 mins at Leicester in our Championship season, we tore into them in waves but were kept at bay by his brilliance.
Our management team will not go provided the club honour the promises made when they were first brought here about our ambitions. It's a shame this wasn't sorted out earlier. We had most of the squad coming out, one by one, saying the team needed MoPo and three or four new players. If that had been commited to a month or so ago maybe the deal would already be done and all this uncertainty avoided. If the rumour of Kasper Schmieichel is true that's a good bit of business for a free. I remember the last 20 mins at Leicester in our Championship season, we tore into them in waves but were kept at bay by his brilliance. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 18

8:36am Fri 16 May 14

fritzer says...

Que Sera Sera !!
Que Sera Sera !! fritzer
  • Score: 5

8:45am Fri 16 May 14

Jesus_02 says...

Today I am being optimistic:

The next thing we will here from the club will be a statement accompanied by a photo of Poch and Adam Lallana. Lallana is in the new kit made by Fred Perry
Today I am being optimistic: The next thing we will here from the club will be a statement accompanied by a photo of Poch and Adam Lallana. Lallana is in the new kit made by Fred Perry Jesus_02
  • Score: 11

9:04am Fri 16 May 14

2getheras1 says...

Well, I liked the article Leitchy. Ignore the boo-boys.
Nothing wrong with a ponder during the summer break.
If those complaining here about the DE need something more entertaining I recommend reading the Pompey local rag, as a Saints fan, I hear their football news is hilarious.
:)
Well, I liked the article Leitchy. Ignore the boo-boys. Nothing wrong with a ponder during the summer break. If those complaining here about the DE need something more entertaining I recommend reading the Pompey local rag, as a Saints fan, I hear their football news is hilarious. :) 2getheras1
  • Score: 8

9:08am Fri 16 May 14

saintbobby says...

Water torture continued!

The Daily Telegraph today says a Board meeting (including Katherina) was held on Wednesday when MP's situation and the future of the players was discussed. If this did take place, Daily Echo, why have you not been able to report it or better still what was the result?
Water torture continued! The Daily Telegraph today says a Board meeting (including Katherina) was held on Wednesday when MP's situation and the future of the players was discussed. If this did take place, Daily Echo, why have you not been able to report it or better still what was the result? saintbobby
  • Score: 9

9:09am Fri 16 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

I've been as angry as any on here about the barrage of crud articles being spewed out by the DE (mainly rehashed from the national rags) on current rumours. However, this article not only hurts me for its subject and content but also hits me in another sensitive area - the use of English.

FFS, Adam! Did you write this at home over a mug of Nescafe at 1am?

Just lifting two examples and trying not to change things too much:
'Obviously they have to offer him the job before he could accept it.'
‘One argument is looking at the clubs over the past year that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar …’

How about:
‘Obviously they WOULD have to offer him the job before he could accept it.’
‘Looking at the TWO clubs over the past year, IT COULD BE ARGUED that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar …’

I really don’t give a flying fig about the grammar and spelling of people posting but journos are paid to write well and this, Adam, is truly awful.

Rant over, I’m now off to teach the French to speak English. Adam, let me know when you want your first lesson.
I've been as angry as any on here about the barrage of crud articles being spewed out by the DE (mainly rehashed from the national rags) on current rumours. However, this article not only hurts me for its subject and content but also hits me in another sensitive area - the use of English. FFS, Adam! Did you write this at home over a mug of Nescafe at 1am? Just lifting two examples and trying not to change things too much: 'Obviously they have to offer him the job before he could accept it.' ‘One argument is looking at the clubs over the past year that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar …’ How about: ‘Obviously they WOULD have to offer him the job before he could accept it.’ ‘Looking at the TWO clubs over the past year, IT COULD BE ARGUED that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar …’ I really don’t give a flying fig about the grammar and spelling of people posting but journos are paid to write well and this, Adam, is truly awful. Rant over, I’m now off to teach the French to speak English. Adam, let me know when you want your first lesson. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 16

9:18am Fri 16 May 14

Shareholder says...

So, going by this article it looks like Mystic Meg has joined the Echo. We all know how reliable her insight is!
So, going by this article it looks like Mystic Meg has joined the Echo. We all know how reliable her insight is! Shareholder
  • Score: 1

9:18am Fri 16 May 14

warrens 76 says...

The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration... warrens 76
  • Score: -13

9:24am Fri 16 May 14

teddrake says...

andoru wrote:
Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?
If Pochettino were to leave and lure some of our best players over to Spurs, I would be really sad (particularly if he took Adam Lallana with him), but I would bear him no ill will at all, but rather would continue to appreciate him for what he has done for our club. He has always acted with integrity and has a perfect right to move to another club if that is what he feels would be right for him. However, I really hope that he stays with us.... no disrespect to Malky Mackay (who I am sure if a good manager), but I think that MoPo is the kind of forward-thinking coach that we want at the helm (do buses have helms?).
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?[/p][/quote]If Pochettino were to leave and lure some of our best players over to Spurs, I would be really sad (particularly if he took Adam Lallana with him), but I would bear him no ill will at all, but rather would continue to appreciate him for what he has done for our club. He has always acted with integrity and has a perfect right to move to another club if that is what he feels would be right for him. However, I really hope that he stays with us.... no disrespect to Malky Mackay (who I am sure if a good manager), but I think that MoPo is the kind of forward-thinking coach that we want at the helm (do buses have helms?). teddrake
  • Score: 3

9:28am Fri 16 May 14

alanrr says...

one problem I see is poch doesn't like europa league so he wants a jump straight into top 4 .......so would I but it ain't going to happen like that
one problem I see is poch doesn't like europa league so he wants a jump straight into top 4 .......so would I but it ain't going to happen like that alanrr
  • Score: 7

9:29am Fri 16 May 14

Saint TGB says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
I've been as angry as any on here about the barrage of crud articles being spewed out by the DE (mainly rehashed from the national rags) on current rumours. However, this article not only hurts me for its subject and content but also hits me in another sensitive area - the use of English.

FFS, Adam! Did you write this at home over a mug of Nescafe at 1am?

Just lifting two examples and trying not to change things too much:
'Obviously they have to offer him the job before he could accept it.'
‘One argument is looking at the clubs over the past year that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar …’

How about:
‘Obviously they WOULD have to offer him the job before he could accept it.’
‘Looking at the TWO clubs over the past year, IT COULD BE ARGUED that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar …’

I really don’t give a flying fig about the grammar and spelling of people posting but journos are paid to write well and this, Adam, is truly awful.

Rant over, I’m now off to teach the French to speak English. Adam, let me know when you want your first lesson.
Strassie, that is a classic!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: I've been as angry as any on here about the barrage of crud articles being spewed out by the DE (mainly rehashed from the national rags) on current rumours. However, this article not only hurts me for its subject and content but also hits me in another sensitive area - the use of English. FFS, Adam! Did you write this at home over a mug of Nescafe at 1am? Just lifting two examples and trying not to change things too much: 'Obviously they have to offer him the job before he could accept it.' ‘One argument is looking at the clubs over the past year that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar …’ How about: ‘Obviously they WOULD have to offer him the job before he could accept it.’ ‘Looking at the TWO clubs over the past year, IT COULD BE ARGUED that Saints and Spurs are fairly similar …’ I really don’t give a flying fig about the grammar and spelling of people posting but journos are paid to write well and this, Adam, is truly awful. Rant over, I’m now off to teach the French to speak English. Adam, let me know when you want your first lesson.[/p][/quote]Strassie, that is a classic! Saint TGB
  • Score: 8

9:32am Fri 16 May 14

Costa Baz says...

I am a great admirer of how MP has improved our team, and I would love him to stay and take us up another level, but I hope this board has learnt something from Cortese.
Identify your next manager early and act when it best suits the club to do so.

None of us know what is happening, with regards to negotiations, although it hasn't stopped people assuming that MP's needs aren't being met, or that the board is not ambitious etc.
No one seems to be considering that MP may be asking for something that cannot be delivered, thus deliberately making his position untenable, creating the opportunity for him to walk away.

Only those involved in the talks know the answer to this.

As someone who considers the club is more important than the individual, I am not comfortable knowing that a manager, who is still to to commit to a new contract, may be pulling the strings with regards to which players leave and which players are brought in.
This cannot be allowed to happen.
I am a great admirer of how MP has improved our team, and I would love him to stay and take us up another level, but I hope this board has learnt something from Cortese. Identify your next manager early and act when it best suits the club to do so. None of us know what is happening, with regards to negotiations, although it hasn't stopped people assuming that MP's needs aren't being met, or that the board is not ambitious etc. No one seems to be considering that MP may be asking for something that cannot be delivered, thus deliberately making his position untenable, creating the opportunity for him to walk away. Only those involved in the talks know the answer to this. As someone who considers the club is more important than the individual, I am not comfortable knowing that a manager, who is still to to commit to a new contract, may be pulling the strings with regards to which players leave and which players are brought in. This cannot be allowed to happen. Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

9:35am Fri 16 May 14

Alicesdad says...

The key questions are :

Q Why do Echo reporters never look out of the window in the morning ?
A Because they would have nothing to do in the afternoon.

Q How could the Echo be improved ?
A Get the printers to add perforations on the corner so its easier to hang up in the toilet.

Q How many Echo reporters does ot take to change a lightbulb ?

A Six
One to blame Cortese for buying the light bulb.
One to blame the board for not spending on better lightbulbs.
One to ask why the light bulb was allowed to go out.
One to point out that this never happened when Adkins was here.
One to ask why the board has made no announcement about the lightbulb
One to ask Gordon Watson.
The key questions are : Q Why do Echo reporters never look out of the window in the morning ? A Because they would have nothing to do in the afternoon. Q How could the Echo be improved ? A Get the printers to add perforations on the corner so its easier to hang up in the toilet. Q How many Echo reporters does ot take to change a lightbulb ? A Six One to blame Cortese for buying the light bulb. One to blame the board for not spending on better lightbulbs. One to ask why the light bulb was allowed to go out. One to point out that this never happened when Adkins was here. One to ask why the board has made no announcement about the lightbulb One to ask Gordon Watson. Alicesdad
  • Score: 26

9:40am Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

This is just journalistic time and space wasting.

The first answers to this may have been answered last night. Sky Sports report that Katarina met her board to discuss the situation - Telegraph report it.
Wait and see - I guess.
This is just journalistic time and space wasting. The first answers to this may have been answered last night. Sky Sports report that Katarina met her board to discuss the situation - Telegraph report it. Wait and see - I guess. jls217
  • Score: 2

9:44am Fri 16 May 14

andoru says...

God, I wish I was a Pompey fan. Their players and managers only leave when their community service ends or their plumbing business takes off. Much less stressful and easier to predict.
God, I wish I was a Pompey fan. Their players and managers only leave when their community service ends or their plumbing business takes off. Much less stressful and easier to predict. andoru
  • Score: 16

9:50am Fri 16 May 14

george chivers says...

What is MOPO's short term ambition?

My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League.

Can he do that by staying at Southampton?

Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years.

My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton.

Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline.

I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.
What is MOPO's short term ambition? My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League. Can he do that by staying at Southampton? Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years. My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton. Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline. I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size. george chivers
  • Score: 3

9:55am Fri 16 May 14

Blackknight says...

With apologies to 'The Clash'

Saints' you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If you say that you are mine
I'll be here 'til the end of time
So you got to let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
With apologies to 'The Clash' Saints' you got to let me know Should I stay or should I go? If you say that you are mine I'll be here 'til the end of time So you got to let me know Should I stay or should I go? Blackknight
  • Score: -6

9:58am Fri 16 May 14

Dave Brown says...

All this hype of Pochettino wanting to manage a large club,having a large budget to spend on players.
First of all can anyone identify what he won during Managerial career.
Secondly he inherited a good squad of players apart from the duds purchased by Cortese however made them fitter and have a real appetite to win but how do we know his judgement of spending a large pot of gold would enrich the squad we have and finish any higher in the league next season.
Only time would tell if he stays.
However if he decides to leave and join Tottenham I find all his comments about our players and his enjoyment of working with our promising youth very hollow.
All this hype of Pochettino wanting to manage a large club,having a large budget to spend on players. First of all can anyone identify what he won during Managerial career. Secondly he inherited a good squad of players apart from the duds purchased by Cortese however made them fitter and have a real appetite to win but how do we know his judgement of spending a large pot of gold would enrich the squad we have and finish any higher in the league next season. Only time would tell if he stays. However if he decides to leave and join Tottenham I find all his comments about our players and his enjoyment of working with our promising youth very hollow. Dave Brown
  • Score: 3

10:08am Fri 16 May 14

Alicesdad says...

george chivers wrote:
What is MOPO's short term ambition?

My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League.

Can he do that by staying at Southampton?

Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years.

My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton.

Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline.

I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.
You're hired... how did you get all this inside information and insight? Are you a phone hacker?

Whatever your answer you have hit the nail on the head. What we really want to know is whether the board see us expanding from our current strong position and making the jump to the really big time. All the stuff about individual players and the manager is mere distraction, we are always going to buy (.. and sell) players, its the way this business works. There are no quick answers for the frustrated fans and it is unreasonnable to expect any at this time.

So anyway - just to show you know about journalism, what DOES Gordon Watson think?
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: What is MOPO's short term ambition? My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League. Can he do that by staying at Southampton? Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years. My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton. Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline. I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.[/p][/quote]You're hired... how did you get all this inside information and insight? Are you a phone hacker? Whatever your answer you have hit the nail on the head. What we really want to know is whether the board see us expanding from our current strong position and making the jump to the really big time. All the stuff about individual players and the manager is mere distraction, we are always going to buy (.. and sell) players, its the way this business works. There are no quick answers for the frustrated fans and it is unreasonnable to expect any at this time. So anyway - just to show you know about journalism, what DOES Gordon Watson think? Alicesdad
  • Score: 4

10:31am Fri 16 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Media Saint wrote:
Can we just buy: Caulker, Ings and Lukaku and get next season started?
Agree with all three but will need to do it quickly.
[quote][p][bold]Media Saint[/bold] wrote: Can we just buy: Caulker, Ings and Lukaku and get next season started?[/p][/quote]Agree with all three but will need to do it quickly. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 4

10:35am Fri 16 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

george chivers wrote:
What is MOPO's short term ambition?

My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League.

Can he do that by staying at Southampton?

Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years.

My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton.

Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline.

I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.
FFS how many times.
The UEFA FFP rules DO NOT apply to us as we aren't in a European competition! even if we were to qualify for a European competition at the end of next season we would still get a years grace from the rules! so that's 2 years before we would have to worry about them. diverpool could be in trouble if they qualify again next season whereas Manure can spend big, despite their debt, this season because they didn't qualify.
we come under the PREM/FA FFP rules and they are a lot less strict as the UEFA rules, that's why Mancy have only failed the UEFA rules and not the Prem/FA rules! £45mill debt over 3 years for UEFA and £105mill over 3 years under Prem/FA rules!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: What is MOPO's short term ambition? My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League. Can he do that by staying at Southampton? Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years. My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton. Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline. I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.[/p][/quote]FFS how many times. The UEFA FFP rules DO NOT apply to us as we aren't in a European competition! even if we were to qualify for a European competition at the end of next season we would still get a years grace from the rules! so that's 2 years before we would have to worry about them. diverpool could be in trouble if they qualify again next season whereas Manure can spend big, despite their debt, this season because they didn't qualify. we come under the PREM/FA FFP rules and they are a lot less strict as the UEFA rules, that's why Mancy have only failed the UEFA rules and not the Prem/FA rules! £45mill debt over 3 years for UEFA and £105mill over 3 years under Prem/FA rules! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

10:35am Fri 16 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
My answer to all of this and the futures of Adam Luke Spider Jack etc is really simple.
Give it one more season. If we have not or are unlikely not to break the top six by then all of them will have earned the right to move if they wish. The summer of 2015 will have no distractions and they can all concentrate on their careers.
Come on you Saints. You know it makes sense.
Totally agree Nichola got them all to sign longer contracts with the vision to push on, we have started this process so why give up now. Give it another season and review the situation next summer.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: My answer to all of this and the futures of Adam Luke Spider Jack etc is really simple. Give it one more season. If we have not or are unlikely not to break the top six by then all of them will have earned the right to move if they wish. The summer of 2015 will have no distractions and they can all concentrate on their careers. Come on you Saints. You know it makes sense.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Nichola got them all to sign longer contracts with the vision to push on, we have started this process so why give up now. Give it another season and review the situation next summer. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

11:00am Fri 16 May 14

justaSaintsfan says...

saintbobby wrote:
Water torture continued!

The Daily Telegraph today says a Board meeting (including Katherina) was held on Wednesday when MP's situation and the future of the players was discussed. If this did take place, Daily Echo, why have you not been able to report it or better still what was the result?
What was the result? Probably a Saints win!

It is yet more meaningless newspaper talk. All of it is fiction, not fact.

I have faith that Katharina and the board will do what is best for Southampton FC.

Logic tells me the likely priority at the club right now is keeping Mauricio. I think he will stay to see just how far he can take Saints, which could make him an even hotter property later on. Besides, he is no doubt well aware of Daniel Levy's very well exercised talent for sacking Tottenham managers! I think that if Mauricio doesn't stay with Saints, he would always wonder what he might have achieved at Southampton FC. The five year project has ended, but already Mauricio is interested in the club's next project. That tells us he probably wants to stay. I'm optimistic.

Regarding possible player sales, Saints players who play well in Brazil will command higher transfer fees. Southampton FC is a business and if any players are to be sold, this will be done at the right time, for the club's maximum benefit. It's a bit like the stock market, where the aim is to sell at high prices and buy at low prices. This isn't rocket science! I reckon any sales of our best players will be very reluctant, if they happen at all. Any fool can see that it makes no sense to dispose of our best players and replace them with inferior players, thus reducing the chances of continuing the club's upward momentum. I think Saints fans can rest assured that Katharina and her board of directors are not fools!

I'm happy. Our Saints are in safe hands. All the media's fictional claptrap will obviously continue until something worth writing or talking about actually happens. I'm finding it all hilarious, as so many journalists don't know what is going on behind the scenes at Southampton FC! The club will tell the facts only when deals have already been done!

Up the Saints!!! Onward and upward the Sputhampton Way!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Water torture continued! The Daily Telegraph today says a Board meeting (including Katherina) was held on Wednesday when MP's situation and the future of the players was discussed. If this did take place, Daily Echo, why have you not been able to report it or better still what was the result?[/p][/quote]What was the result? Probably a Saints win! It is yet more meaningless newspaper talk. All of it is fiction, not fact. I have faith that Katharina and the board will do what is best for Southampton FC. Logic tells me the likely priority at the club right now is keeping Mauricio. I think he will stay to see just how far he can take Saints, which could make him an even hotter property later on. Besides, he is no doubt well aware of Daniel Levy's very well exercised talent for sacking Tottenham managers! I think that if Mauricio doesn't stay with Saints, he would always wonder what he might have achieved at Southampton FC. The five year project has ended, but already Mauricio is interested in the club's next project. That tells us he probably wants to stay. I'm optimistic. Regarding possible player sales, Saints players who play well in Brazil will command higher transfer fees. Southampton FC is a business and if any players are to be sold, this will be done at the right time, for the club's maximum benefit. It's a bit like the stock market, where the aim is to sell at high prices and buy at low prices. This isn't rocket science! I reckon any sales of our best players will be very reluctant, if they happen at all. Any fool can see that it makes no sense to dispose of our best players and replace them with inferior players, thus reducing the chances of continuing the club's upward momentum. I think Saints fans can rest assured that Katharina and her board of directors are not fools! I'm happy. Our Saints are in safe hands. All the media's fictional claptrap will obviously continue until something worth writing or talking about actually happens. I'm finding it all hilarious, as so many journalists don't know what is going on behind the scenes at Southampton FC! The club will tell the facts only when deals have already been done! Up the Saints!!! Onward and upward the Sputhampton Way!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 14

11:12am Fri 16 May 14

justaSaintsfan says...

warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Please wait and see!!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Please wait and see!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 2

11:14am Fri 16 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Saints were in a safe mid-table position when Nichola left and his vision was to push the club on from this. He set the process with MoPo and signing all our young stars on longer term contracts, the new training development.
We are grateful that Katharina has committed to the club says that she wants to continue her fathers investment and has appointed a highly qualified board to take us forward.
The club are in a better financial position than most others with a good amount coming in to clear and invest further on the transfer front. If we move quickly the extra three or four top players needed to push on for the Champions League will not cost a fortune, some out of contract and a part exchange for Osvaldo included.
So what is the problem ?
Time for this new board to make an impact and get things rolling or hopefully it is what they are already doing. Ralph Kruger & Les Reed it is now all up to you, but please DO NOT ALLOW THIS PLAYING SQUAD TO BREAK UP it has taken 5 years to get where we are and doesn't need much to take it up another level. MoPo and Adam get the key to it all.
Saints were in a safe mid-table position when Nichola left and his vision was to push the club on from this. He set the process with MoPo and signing all our young stars on longer term contracts, the new training development. We are grateful that Katharina has committed to the club says that she wants to continue her fathers investment and has appointed a highly qualified board to take us forward. The club are in a better financial position than most others with a good amount coming in to clear and invest further on the transfer front. If we move quickly the extra three or four top players needed to push on for the Champions League will not cost a fortune, some out of contract and a part exchange for Osvaldo included. So what is the problem ? Time for this new board to make an impact and get things rolling or hopefully it is what they are already doing. Ralph Kruger & Les Reed it is now all up to you, but please DO NOT ALLOW THIS PLAYING SQUAD TO BREAK UP it has taken 5 years to get where we are and doesn't need much to take it up another level. MoPo and Adam get the key to it all. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

11:18am Fri 16 May 14

cotswoldsaint says...

According to today's Telegraph, Saints Board met Wed evening to discuss how to respond to both bids for AL and LS and how to deal with the Mopo situation re Spurs so it sounds like it won't be too long before we find out what's going to happen. That's if you believe what's written in the Telegraph, of course!
According to today's Telegraph, Saints Board met Wed evening to discuss how to respond to both bids for AL and LS and how to deal with the Mopo situation re Spurs so it sounds like it won't be too long before we find out what's going to happen. That's if you believe what's written in the Telegraph, of course! cotswoldsaint
  • Score: 4

11:31am Fri 16 May 14

Wembley76 says...

It is highly probable that MoPo will go....in the same way Hoddle left a few years back...the lure of a 'big club' and 'big transfer' funds will be too tempting for a young and highly ambitious man. Saints have made him an offer, and he has effectively 'snubbed it' and is waiting for the offer from Spurs. It is the nature of our club that we will always be prey to losing managers and key players to the bigger clubs who have a monopoly on power and resources...even Arsenal now struggle against the reserves of Man City and Chelsea...We should look to the future and start to plan for life without MoPo, Lallana and Shaw and hope to retain the likes of Lovren, Schneiderlin and J Rod...and reinvest the proceeds into strengthening the squad...sad but realistic I am afraid...
It is highly probable that MoPo will go....in the same way Hoddle left a few years back...the lure of a 'big club' and 'big transfer' funds will be too tempting for a young and highly ambitious man. Saints have made him an offer, and he has effectively 'snubbed it' and is waiting for the offer from Spurs. It is the nature of our club that we will always be prey to losing managers and key players to the bigger clubs who have a monopoly on power and resources...even Arsenal now struggle against the reserves of Man City and Chelsea...We should look to the future and start to plan for life without MoPo, Lallana and Shaw and hope to retain the likes of Lovren, Schneiderlin and J Rod...and reinvest the proceeds into strengthening the squad...sad but realistic I am afraid... Wembley76
  • Score: 3

11:37am Fri 16 May 14

SaintJD says...

cotswoldsaint wrote:
According to today's Telegraph, Saints Board met Wed evening to discuss how to respond to both bids for AL and LS and how to deal with the Mopo situation re Spurs so it sounds like it won't be too long before we find out what's going to happen. That's if you believe what's written in the Telegraph, of course!
I hope the board members have taken a passing interest in Luis Suarez's comments over the past day or so.

Last season he wanted out. There was talk of him going on strike. The club told him he was going nowhere, he sulked for a day or so, got his head down and, one season on, he realises the club was capable of offering him what he wanted - a shot at the league and Champions League football.

Like Luke and Adam, he is ambitious, but I think it was also clear he did have a genuine love for the club.

Both are on long term contracts and both are very professional. If we honestly don't need to sell, let's keep them and see what the next season brings.

Luke and probably Adam aren't in a 'Matt' situation - the opportunities aren't likely to go away within a season. Plus, if anything, being in the World Cup squad should make them realise they can realise their ambitions with us, or at least put them on the right track to them.

As for MP, not sure how much love he has for the club. It's hard to know. But I hope we can do the same with him.

And let's not assume Spurs will choose him anyway.

Luckily the Man Utd situation is distracting most of the media at the moment and for the next few days, so hopefully all this press nonsense will die down, because, effectively, we all know nothing has actually happened this week - not concrete anyway.
[quote][p][bold]cotswoldsaint[/bold] wrote: According to today's Telegraph, Saints Board met Wed evening to discuss how to respond to both bids for AL and LS and how to deal with the Mopo situation re Spurs so it sounds like it won't be too long before we find out what's going to happen. That's if you believe what's written in the Telegraph, of course![/p][/quote]I hope the board members have taken a passing interest in Luis Suarez's comments over the past day or so. Last season he wanted out. There was talk of him going on strike. The club told him he was going nowhere, he sulked for a day or so, got his head down and, one season on, he realises the club was capable of offering him what he wanted - a shot at the league and Champions League football. Like Luke and Adam, he is ambitious, but I think it was also clear he did have a genuine love for the club. Both are on long term contracts and both are very professional. If we honestly don't need to sell, let's keep them and see what the next season brings. Luke and probably Adam aren't in a 'Matt' situation - the opportunities aren't likely to go away within a season. Plus, if anything, being in the World Cup squad should make them realise they can realise their ambitions with us, or at least put them on the right track to them. As for MP, not sure how much love he has for the club. It's hard to know. But I hope we can do the same with him. And let's not assume Spurs will choose him anyway. Luckily the Man Utd situation is distracting most of the media at the moment and for the next few days, so hopefully all this press nonsense will die down, because, effectively, we all know nothing has actually happened this week - not concrete anyway. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

11:39am Fri 16 May 14

Wembley76 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
What is MOPO's short term ambition?

My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League.

Can he do that by staying at Southampton?

Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years.

My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton.

Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline.

I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.
FFS how many times.
The UEFA FFP rules DO NOT apply to us as we aren't in a European competition! even if we were to qualify for a European competition at the end of next season we would still get a years grace from the rules! so that's 2 years before we would have to worry about them. diverpool could be in trouble if they qualify again next season whereas Manure can spend big, despite their debt, this season because they didn't qualify.
we come under the PREM/FA FFP rules and they are a lot less strict as the UEFA rules, that's why Mancy have only failed the UEFA rules and not the Prem/FA rules! £45mill debt over 3 years for UEFA and £105mill over 3 years under Prem/FA rules!
I think you're right but missing the point...it is not about the financial rules, but the depth of our pockets....we are owned by a successful business person who makes sound practical business decisions...this is v different from a Sheikh or Oligarch where the sky is the limit...and accountability to shareholders is unimportant....we should also reflect that the spending spree under Rupert and poor financial management led us to League 1 (not to mention our neighbours down the road) Let's be pragmatic...mid table in one of the best leagues in the world is an enviable position most football supporters dream about....and after 40 years supporting Saints, still gives me altitude sickness :)
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: What is MOPO's short term ambition? My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League. Can he do that by staying at Southampton? Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years. My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton. Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline. I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.[/p][/quote]FFS how many times. The UEFA FFP rules DO NOT apply to us as we aren't in a European competition! even if we were to qualify for a European competition at the end of next season we would still get a years grace from the rules! so that's 2 years before we would have to worry about them. diverpool could be in trouble if they qualify again next season whereas Manure can spend big, despite their debt, this season because they didn't qualify. we come under the PREM/FA FFP rules and they are a lot less strict as the UEFA rules, that's why Mancy have only failed the UEFA rules and not the Prem/FA rules! £45mill debt over 3 years for UEFA and £105mill over 3 years under Prem/FA rules![/p][/quote]I think you're right but missing the point...it is not about the financial rules, but the depth of our pockets....we are owned by a successful business person who makes sound practical business decisions...this is v different from a Sheikh or Oligarch where the sky is the limit...and accountability to shareholders is unimportant....we should also reflect that the spending spree under Rupert and poor financial management led us to League 1 (not to mention our neighbours down the road) Let's be pragmatic...mid table in one of the best leagues in the world is an enviable position most football supporters dream about....and after 40 years supporting Saints, still gives me altitude sickness :) Wembley76
  • Score: 3

11:53am Fri 16 May 14

SaintJD says...

Wembley76 wrote:
It is highly probable that MoPo will go....in the same way Hoddle left a few years back...the lure of a 'big club' and 'big transfer' funds will be too tempting for a young and highly ambitious man. Saints have made him an offer, and he has effectively 'snubbed it' and is waiting for the offer from Spurs. It is the nature of our club that we will always be prey to losing managers and key players to the bigger clubs who have a monopoly on power and resources...even Arsenal now struggle against the reserves of Man City and Chelsea...We should look to the future and start to plan for life without MoPo, Lallana and Shaw and hope to retain the likes of Lovren, Schneiderlin and J Rod...and reinvest the proceeds into strengthening the squad...sad but realistic I am afraid...
Not necessarily realistic. It all depends what our aspirations are. Yeah, if we don't have the same ambitions as Spurs, fine, but if we do then we should be trying to keep everyone.

If we offer MP the funds and the vision we can potentially offer him everything he will get at Spurs, plus the knowledge that his players already buy into what he's doing, the knowledge that more young players are coming through, that he has a year's head start in spreading his philosophy, that he has HIS team in place and won't get other backroom people forced on him, and no Baldini figure to answer to,

Oh, but none of the impatience, or uncertainty, or egos, or pressure he'd get at Spurs - things that make building slowly a problem.

As someone who has worked on a budget all his career I think we are a very attractive option, as long as he's happy.

I'm not saying he won't leave and I'm not claiming that we are as BIG a club as Spurs heritage, profile and support wise, but the idea that we need to accept where we are and that "that's just the way it is and always will be" is hopefully something we can bin, initially under NC and now under these owners, even if we have to do it responsibly and within our means.

I guess we'll find out in the next couple of days or weeks though.

Also, has he snubbed that offer? I don't know that we know anything about what he's been offered, but I do know that it would usually take a few days for a manager and his agent to negotiate a good deal and be convinced that the vision matched his. He may be seeing what Spurs have to offer, but that doesn't mean he's snubbing us - let's face it he'd be stupid to, because he may well need this job come next week.

Personally, I think it's quite good that he's not doing a Van Gaal or de Boer (or 'Arry) and getting in the papers every day telling people what he wants to do to engineer a move. That's got to be a good sign that he's not 100% decided.
[quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: It is highly probable that MoPo will go....in the same way Hoddle left a few years back...the lure of a 'big club' and 'big transfer' funds will be too tempting for a young and highly ambitious man. Saints have made him an offer, and he has effectively 'snubbed it' and is waiting for the offer from Spurs. It is the nature of our club that we will always be prey to losing managers and key players to the bigger clubs who have a monopoly on power and resources...even Arsenal now struggle against the reserves of Man City and Chelsea...We should look to the future and start to plan for life without MoPo, Lallana and Shaw and hope to retain the likes of Lovren, Schneiderlin and J Rod...and reinvest the proceeds into strengthening the squad...sad but realistic I am afraid...[/p][/quote]Not necessarily realistic. It all depends what our aspirations are. Yeah, if we don't have the same ambitions as Spurs, fine, but if we do then we should be trying to keep everyone. If we offer MP the funds and the vision we can potentially offer him everything he will get at Spurs, plus the knowledge that his players already buy into what he's doing, the knowledge that more young players are coming through, that he has a year's head start in spreading his philosophy, that he has HIS team in place and won't get other backroom people forced on him, and no Baldini figure to answer to, Oh, but none of the impatience, or uncertainty, or egos, or pressure he'd get at Spurs - things that make building slowly a problem. As someone who has worked on a budget all his career I think we are a very attractive option, as long as he's happy. I'm not saying he won't leave and I'm not claiming that we are as BIG a club as Spurs heritage, profile and support wise, but the idea that we need to accept where we are and that "that's just the way it is and always will be" is hopefully something we can bin, initially under NC and now under these owners, even if we have to do it responsibly and within our means. I guess we'll find out in the next couple of days or weeks though. Also, has he snubbed that offer? I don't know that we know anything about what he's been offered, but I do know that it would usually take a few days for a manager and his agent to negotiate a good deal and be convinced that the vision matched his. He may be seeing what Spurs have to offer, but that doesn't mean he's snubbing us - let's face it he'd be stupid to, because he may well need this job come next week. Personally, I think it's quite good that he's not doing a Van Gaal or de Boer (or 'Arry) and getting in the papers every day telling people what he wants to do to engineer a move. That's got to be a good sign that he's not 100% decided. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

11:53am Fri 16 May 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Shareholder wrote:
So, going by this article it looks like Mystic Meg has joined the Echo. We all know how reliable her insight is!
I think your find it is Eileen Drewry!
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: So, going by this article it looks like Mystic Meg has joined the Echo. We all know how reliable her insight is![/p][/quote]I think your find it is Eileen Drewry! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 1

11:58am Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

Wembley76 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
george chivers wrote:
What is MOPO's short term ambition?

My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League.

Can he do that by staying at Southampton?

Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years.

My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton.

Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline.

I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.
FFS how many times.
The UEFA FFP rules DO NOT apply to us as we aren't in a European competition! even if we were to qualify for a European competition at the end of next season we would still get a years grace from the rules! so that's 2 years before we would have to worry about them. diverpool could be in trouble if they qualify again next season whereas Manure can spend big, despite their debt, this season because they didn't qualify.
we come under the PREM/FA FFP rules and they are a lot less strict as the UEFA rules, that's why Mancy have only failed the UEFA rules and not the Prem/FA rules! £45mill debt over 3 years for UEFA and £105mill over 3 years under Prem/FA rules!
I think you're right but missing the point...it is not about the financial rules, but the depth of our pockets....we are owned by a successful business person who makes sound practical business decisions...this is v different from a Sheikh or Oligarch where the sky is the limit...and accountability to shareholders is unimportant....we should also reflect that the spending spree under Rupert and poor financial management led us to League 1 (not to mention our neighbours down the road) Let's be pragmatic...mid table in one of the best leagues in the world is an enviable position most football supporters dream about....and after 40 years supporting Saints, still gives me altitude sickness :)
Good down to earth and keep your feet there post mate.

I am accustomed to waiting for the final whistle of the final game season after season after season to wait and see if were going to be demoted. So what we have now is Nirvana to me. You are right Katarina is obsenely wealthy (just what does that mean anyway?) However by the measure of some of those buying sports clubs all over the world she will always be a minnow in those circles because as the whole world knows but the vested interests don't want to look at too closely too much of the money being poured into the game (from all angles) has at best been used for creative accountancy purposes and at worst just plain dirty money. I am happy for Saints to hover around 8th forever rather than get involved in dirty money. We want no part of that even if it could buy us into Europe season after season.
Even if were to lose the two players most speculated about this close season (and they haven't left us until they sign for someone else) I still think with what can be juggled with will take us into a position next season at least as high as this. There will be some money available and there will be one or two ready to step up from below.
If we end up having to bring in a new manager (and I hope we don't but Pochetino has made no secret he wants to go higher and we might find it hard to satisfy his ambitions) that manager may well have a player or two to bring with him.
We need at least 5k more seats in the Stadium. We need another striker a winger a CB and a GK to keep borat on his toes. Most importanly we need to find the money to cover past transfers, the training facility and wages for players and staff.
I am confident Saints will have learned from our recent history and not overstretch outselves. Whatever happens I will be in the Saints shop to by another coffee cup, another Tshirt and all sorts of carp that I never use just like every other season as far back as my old memory takes me.
There has never been a better time to follow this wonderful club!
There has never been a better time to extract the urine from the amoeba end of the M27!
Love football, hate the suspense.
[quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: What is MOPO's short term ambition? My answer for him. To manage a team that qualifies for the Champions League. Can he do that by staying at Southampton? Probably not unless he gets very lucky on a limited budget and the star players don't transfer to top six clubs. The top seven teams in the PL haven't changed for seven years. My answer for him. If he gets an offer from a top six club or a European equivalent he leaves Southampton. Sadly I don't think we are in the position to fund a top six club within in the financial rules which govern European football. Man City have broken the rules and been fined and if we had their funding we couldn't put it in because we would also break the rules. They only get away with it, to the extent they do, because of their "Joke" sponsorship from an airline. I think, unfortunately, we have accept we are a middle of the road club who can't make it to the top of the PL because of our size.[/p][/quote]FFS how many times. The UEFA FFP rules DO NOT apply to us as we aren't in a European competition! even if we were to qualify for a European competition at the end of next season we would still get a years grace from the rules! so that's 2 years before we would have to worry about them. diverpool could be in trouble if they qualify again next season whereas Manure can spend big, despite their debt, this season because they didn't qualify. we come under the PREM/FA FFP rules and they are a lot less strict as the UEFA rules, that's why Mancy have only failed the UEFA rules and not the Prem/FA rules! £45mill debt over 3 years for UEFA and £105mill over 3 years under Prem/FA rules![/p][/quote]I think you're right but missing the point...it is not about the financial rules, but the depth of our pockets....we are owned by a successful business person who makes sound practical business decisions...this is v different from a Sheikh or Oligarch where the sky is the limit...and accountability to shareholders is unimportant....we should also reflect that the spending spree under Rupert and poor financial management led us to League 1 (not to mention our neighbours down the road) Let's be pragmatic...mid table in one of the best leagues in the world is an enviable position most football supporters dream about....and after 40 years supporting Saints, still gives me altitude sickness :)[/p][/quote]Good down to earth and keep your feet there post mate. I am accustomed to waiting for the final whistle of the final game season after season after season to wait and see if were going to be demoted. So what we have now is Nirvana to me. You are right Katarina is obsenely wealthy (just what does that mean anyway?) However by the measure of some of those buying sports clubs all over the world she will always be a minnow in those circles because as the whole world knows but the vested interests don't want to look at too closely too much of the money being poured into the game (from all angles) has at best been used for creative accountancy purposes and at worst just plain dirty money. I am happy for Saints to hover around 8th forever rather than get involved in dirty money. We want no part of that even if it could buy us into Europe season after season. Even if were to lose the two players most speculated about this close season (and they haven't left us until they sign for someone else) I still think with what can be juggled with will take us into a position next season at least as high as this. There will be some money available and there will be one or two ready to step up from below. If we end up having to bring in a new manager (and I hope we don't but Pochetino has made no secret he wants to go higher and we might find it hard to satisfy his ambitions) that manager may well have a player or two to bring with him. We need at least 5k more seats in the Stadium. We need another striker a winger a CB and a GK to keep borat on his toes. Most importanly we need to find the money to cover past transfers, the training facility and wages for players and staff. I am confident Saints will have learned from our recent history and not overstretch outselves. Whatever happens I will be in the Saints shop to by another coffee cup, another Tshirt and all sorts of carp that I never use just like every other season as far back as my old memory takes me. There has never been a better time to follow this wonderful club! There has never been a better time to extract the urine from the amoeba end of the M27! Love football, hate the suspense. jls217
  • Score: 8

12:02pm Fri 16 May 14

knuckle dragger says...

warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
You could do with reading this,

http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/sport/1111328
2.New_Saints_board_i
nherit__difficult__f
inancial_situation/
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]You could do with reading this, http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1111328 2.New_Saints_board_i nherit__difficult__f inancial_situation/ knuckle dragger
  • Score: -4

12:03pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

Just re-read my last sorry so many typos. Trying to empty my cholostomy bag and type at the same time has proven to be a drop too many. Wet slippers are not pleasant.
Just re-read my last sorry so many typos. Trying to empty my cholostomy bag and type at the same time has proven to be a drop too many. Wet slippers are not pleasant. jls217
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Fri 16 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

I don't know why everyone thinks spuds are a `big` team.
they have history yes but so do poopey (as they keep telling us) but what have they done in recent years, the last 6yrs they have finished 4th, 5th 6th, and qualified for the champions league once and won a league cup in 08. for most of the 90`s and 00`s they were a mid table club finishing between 15th and 7th (5th twice) with another league cup (99) and an FA cup in 91.
the current chairman thinks that the club should be challenging for champions league places every year, why? they've only got there once before, even Sherwood when he was manager said he couldn't understand why they thought they had a right to be in the champs league.
spuds spent a bit of money last season but that was only the bale money, before that their highest transfer fee was £16.5mill for Luka Modric and Darren Bent. that's not a lot more than we have been spending recently so why does everyone think they will have a huge transfer budget. spuds are trying for a new stadium so that will tie up a lot of their money.
are spuds `big` club? no, they used to be and like other London clubs, esp wet spam, they are living on past achievements with the London based media giving them more press coverage than their position warrants. everton and Villa are a similar sized clubs to spuds and they don't get half the media coverage.
I don't know why everyone thinks spuds are a `big` team. they have history yes but so do poopey (as they keep telling us) but what have they done in recent years, the last 6yrs they have finished 4th, 5th 6th, and qualified for the champions league once and won a league cup in 08. for most of the 90`s and 00`s they were a mid table club finishing between 15th and 7th (5th twice) with another league cup (99) and an FA cup in 91. the current chairman thinks that the club should be challenging for champions league places every year, why? they've only got there once before, even Sherwood when he was manager said he couldn't understand why they thought they had a right to be in the champs league. spuds spent a bit of money last season but that was only the bale money, before that their highest transfer fee was £16.5mill for Luka Modric and Darren Bent. that's not a lot more than we have been spending recently so why does everyone think they will have a huge transfer budget. spuds are trying for a new stadium so that will tie up a lot of their money. are spuds `big` club? no, they used to be and like other London clubs, esp wet spam, they are living on past achievements with the London based media giving them more press coverage than their position warrants. everton and Villa are a similar sized clubs to spuds and they don't get half the media coverage. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 13

12:34pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
I don't know why everyone thinks spuds are a `big` team.
they have history yes but so do poopey (as they keep telling us) but what have they done in recent years, the last 6yrs they have finished 4th, 5th 6th, and qualified for the champions league once and won a league cup in 08. for most of the 90`s and 00`s they were a mid table club finishing between 15th and 7th (5th twice) with another league cup (99) and an FA cup in 91.
the current chairman thinks that the club should be challenging for champions league places every year, why? they've only got there once before, even Sherwood when he was manager said he couldn't understand why they thought they had a right to be in the champs league.
spuds spent a bit of money last season but that was only the bale money, before that their highest transfer fee was £16.5mill for Luka Modric and Darren Bent. that's not a lot more than we have been spending recently so why does everyone think they will have a huge transfer budget. spuds are trying for a new stadium so that will tie up a lot of their money.
are spuds `big` club? no, they used to be and like other London clubs, esp wet spam, they are living on past achievements with the London based media giving them more press coverage than their position warrants. everton and Villa are a similar sized clubs to spuds and they don't get half the media coverage.
Difficult to argue against that mate.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: I don't know why everyone thinks spuds are a `big` team. they have history yes but so do poopey (as they keep telling us) but what have they done in recent years, the last 6yrs they have finished 4th, 5th 6th, and qualified for the champions league once and won a league cup in 08. for most of the 90`s and 00`s they were a mid table club finishing between 15th and 7th (5th twice) with another league cup (99) and an FA cup in 91. the current chairman thinks that the club should be challenging for champions league places every year, why? they've only got there once before, even Sherwood when he was manager said he couldn't understand why they thought they had a right to be in the champs league. spuds spent a bit of money last season but that was only the bale money, before that their highest transfer fee was £16.5mill for Luka Modric and Darren Bent. that's not a lot more than we have been spending recently so why does everyone think they will have a huge transfer budget. spuds are trying for a new stadium so that will tie up a lot of their money. are spuds `big` club? no, they used to be and like other London clubs, esp wet spam, they are living on past achievements with the London based media giving them more press coverage than their position warrants. everton and Villa are a similar sized clubs to spuds and they don't get half the media coverage.[/p][/quote]Difficult to argue against that mate. jls217
  • Score: 5

12:44pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Please wait and see!!
You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Please wait and see!![/p][/quote]You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

12:44pm Fri 16 May 14

Golden_Salamander says...

andoru wrote:
Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?
One would hope that the board would put a "NON POACHING" clause into a contract when spurs ask to speak (official) to MoPo. i.e if he ends up as your Manager then you cannot sign any player for 12/24 months. Breaking the contract will result in a £20m fee + the price of the player.
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I am sure Nicola would do it, however I'm not sure Ralph & Co are "streetwise" enough to even think of it. They will probably accept the Hoddle verbal type agreement that was broken within a couple of months (Dean Richards).
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?[/p][/quote]One would hope that the board would put a "NON POACHING" clause into a contract when spurs ask to speak (official) to MoPo. i.e if he ends up as your Manager then you cannot sign any player for 12/24 months. Breaking the contract will result in a £20m fee + the price of the player. . I am sure Nicola would do it, however I'm not sure Ralph & Co are "streetwise" enough to even think of it. They will probably accept the Hoddle verbal type agreement that was broken within a couple of months (Dean Richards). Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 1

12:59pm Fri 16 May 14

hedge end bob says...

Why has no one challange the D E to print the offer they claim the club have presented to our manager ??
I think the ECHO have stated , it is the best that can be put on the table at ths present time. Who told them this ????. Are the club talking to the ECHO but not it's fans???
Q. Am i fecking pizzed off with all these RUMOURS.

A. YES ...DE if you have not spoken to the people who are involved in these deals don't say feck all. And get your typing machine fixed.
Why has no one challange the D E to print the offer they claim the club have presented to our manager ?? I think the ECHO have stated , it is the best that can be put on the table at ths present time. Who told them this ????. Are the club talking to the ECHO but not it's fans??? Q. Am i fecking pizzed off with all these RUMOURS. A. YES ...DE if you have not spoken to the people who are involved in these deals don't say feck all. And get your typing machine fixed. hedge end bob
  • Score: 1

1:12pm Fri 16 May 14

Golden_Salamander says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
andoru wrote:
Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?
One would hope that the board would put a "NON POACHING" clause into a contract when spurs ask to speak (official) to MoPo. i.e if he ends up as your Manager then you cannot sign any player for 12/24 months. Breaking the contract will result in a £20m fee + the price of the player.
.
I am sure Nicola would do it, however I'm not sure Ralph & Co are "streetwise" enough to even think of it. They will probably accept the Hoddle verbal type agreement that was broken within a couple of months (Dean Richards).
Something I forgot to add.

There was a rumour that the only reason they wanted MoPo is because they believe he will bring Adam & Luke with him. (and then sack him if he is not in the top 4 after 6 months).

If the board put a stop to that with a NO POACHING" clause, I think spurs might start looking elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?[/p][/quote]One would hope that the board would put a "NON POACHING" clause into a contract when spurs ask to speak (official) to MoPo. i.e if he ends up as your Manager then you cannot sign any player for 12/24 months. Breaking the contract will result in a £20m fee + the price of the player. . I am sure Nicola would do it, however I'm not sure Ralph & Co are "streetwise" enough to even think of it. They will probably accept the Hoddle verbal type agreement that was broken within a couple of months (Dean Richards).[/p][/quote]Something I forgot to add. There was a rumour that the only reason they wanted MoPo is because they believe he will bring Adam & Luke with him. (and then sack him if he is not in the top 4 after 6 months). If the board put a stop to that with a NO POACHING" clause, I think spurs might start looking elsewhere. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 3

1:22pm Fri 16 May 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

'And, once again, he actually has to be offered it in the first place.'

I stopped reading when I got to this masterpiece of dumbing down.

0/10 DE, try again.
'And, once again, he actually has to be offered it in the first place.' I stopped reading when I got to this masterpiece of dumbing down. 0/10 DE, try again. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 2

1:34pm Fri 16 May 14

SaintJD says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
Golden_Salamander wrote:
andoru wrote:
Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?
One would hope that the board would put a "NON POACHING" clause into a contract when spurs ask to speak (official) to MoPo. i.e if he ends up as your Manager then you cannot sign any player for 12/24 months. Breaking the contract will result in a £20m fee + the price of the player.
.
I am sure Nicola would do it, however I'm not sure Ralph & Co are "streetwise" enough to even think of it. They will probably accept the Hoddle verbal type agreement that was broken within a couple of months (Dean Richards).
Something I forgot to add.

There was a rumour that the only reason they wanted MoPo is because they believe he will bring Adam & Luke with him. (and then sack him if he is not in the top 4 after 6 months).

If the board put a stop to that with a NO POACHING" clause, I think spurs might start looking elsewhere.
To answer your question andoru, I'd still respect him, because he's a very talented manager and I think a decent guy (if probably a bit 'harder' than he comes across). I'd be seriously angry about it and he'd get booed no question, especially if he took our players, but unfortunately I think he'd have the last laugh because I think he could potentially get Spurs challenging for something, after all, they were sixth having played badly virtually all season.

Would be interested to see how he'd approach the cups though, because, like us, if he wants to actually win anything that's the only way he's likely to do it.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Question to other Saints fans: If, just IF, Pochettino leaves and lures some of our best players (e.g. Lallana) over to Spurs as has been speculated, what would you think of him then? Would you still respect him for what he did in his time here or resent him for breaking up the team?[/p][/quote]One would hope that the board would put a "NON POACHING" clause into a contract when spurs ask to speak (official) to MoPo. i.e if he ends up as your Manager then you cannot sign any player for 12/24 months. Breaking the contract will result in a £20m fee + the price of the player. . I am sure Nicola would do it, however I'm not sure Ralph & Co are "streetwise" enough to even think of it. They will probably accept the Hoddle verbal type agreement that was broken within a couple of months (Dean Richards).[/p][/quote]Something I forgot to add. There was a rumour that the only reason they wanted MoPo is because they believe he will bring Adam & Luke with him. (and then sack him if he is not in the top 4 after 6 months). If the board put a stop to that with a NO POACHING" clause, I think spurs might start looking elsewhere.[/p][/quote]To answer your question andoru, I'd still respect him, because he's a very talented manager and I think a decent guy (if probably a bit 'harder' than he comes across). I'd be seriously angry about it and he'd get booed no question, especially if he took our players, but unfortunately I think he'd have the last laugh because I think he could potentially get Spurs challenging for something, after all, they were sixth having played badly virtually all season. Would be interested to see how he'd approach the cups though, because, like us, if he wants to actually win anything that's the only way he's likely to do it. SaintJD
  • Score: -2

1:38pm Fri 16 May 14

SaintJD says...

Another question. If MP left but Jesus (the assistant version) was placed in full time charge with the rest of the team in place, what would be our thoughts?

This is on the understanding that he was in charge, has the full respect of the players as much as Poch did, and was told by the club that he didn't have to sell any players unless he wanted to and had a decent budget to play with (not that he was seen as a cheap option who'd let them get away with a fire sale).
Another question. If MP left but Jesus (the assistant version) was placed in full time charge with the rest of the team in place, what would be our thoughts? This is on the understanding that he was in charge, has the full respect of the players as much as Poch did, and was told by the club that he didn't have to sell any players unless he wanted to and had a decent budget to play with (not that he was seen as a cheap option who'd let them get away with a fire sale). SaintJD
  • Score: -3

1:48pm Fri 16 May 14

SaintJD says...

I have to say the odds look quite attractive on some of the other, very viable, options for the Spurs job. If I was Levy I'd tell my friends to get some money on de Boer or Benitez. Out of all the options for Spurs, you'd think they'd be best off going for someone who has a track record for actually winning things and challenging for things in top leagues, as clearly Levy doesn't seem content with anything less. If you look at it that way, Benitez would statistically be the best bet (though admittedly not likely to be everyone's first choice) with de Boer in second place.
I have to say the odds look quite attractive on some of the other, very viable, options for the Spurs job. If I was Levy I'd tell my friends to get some money on de Boer or Benitez. Out of all the options for Spurs, you'd think they'd be best off going for someone who has a track record for actually winning things and challenging for things in top leagues, as clearly Levy doesn't seem content with anything less. If you look at it that way, Benitez would statistically be the best bet (though admittedly not likely to be everyone's first choice) with de Boer in second place. SaintJD
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Fri 16 May 14

St.Winch70 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
I hope you are wrong........this board is just doing things a little differently...(Maybe
!)
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]I hope you are wrong........this board is just doing things a little differently...(Maybe !) St.Winch70
  • Score: 0

1:49pm Fri 16 May 14

StElsass says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Please wait and see!!
You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.
I don't know who you mean by the whole world but I struggle to think of any non-Saints fan I know who did see us shooting for the stars or no longer being a selling club.
And I don't see how the new board has destroyed anything to this day. To suggest that Man Utd or Liverpool or others would not have bid for our players had they not made that statement or if NC was still there is deluded at best. And as far as I am aware, no players has been sold, have they?
As far as finance is concerned, the facts are telling us that NC left a bit of a legacy and it is always worth remembering that the neighbours to the East were told for years that everything was fine and not to worry about money. We can all see where it took them.
Wait and see, indeed.
Anyway, time for a cold beer in the garden to start the weekend. Chill out people....
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Please wait and see!![/p][/quote]You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.[/p][/quote]I don't know who you mean by the whole world but I struggle to think of any non-Saints fan I know who did see us shooting for the stars or no longer being a selling club. And I don't see how the new board has destroyed anything to this day. To suggest that Man Utd or Liverpool or others would not have bid for our players had they not made that statement or if NC was still there is deluded at best. And as far as I am aware, no players has been sold, have they? As far as finance is concerned, the facts are telling us that NC left a bit of a legacy and it is always worth remembering that the neighbours to the East were told for years that everything was fine and not to worry about money. We can all see where it took them. Wait and see, indeed. Anyway, time for a cold beer in the garden to start the weekend. Chill out people.... StElsass
  • Score: 5

2:54pm Fri 16 May 14

lowe esteem says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Water torture continued!

The Daily Telegraph today says a Board meeting (including Katherina) was held on Wednesday when MP's situation and the future of the players was discussed. If this did take place, Daily Echo, why have you not been able to report it or better still what was the result?
What was the result? Probably a Saints win!

It is yet more meaningless newspaper talk. All of it is fiction, not fact.

I have faith that Katharina and the board will do what is best for Southampton FC.

Logic tells me the likely priority at the club right now is keeping Mauricio. I think he will stay to see just how far he can take Saints, which could make him an even hotter property later on. Besides, he is no doubt well aware of Daniel Levy's very well exercised talent for sacking Tottenham managers! I think that if Mauricio doesn't stay with Saints, he would always wonder what he might have achieved at Southampton FC. The five year project has ended, but already Mauricio is interested in the club's next project. That tells us he probably wants to stay. I'm optimistic.

Regarding possible player sales, Saints players who play well in Brazil will command higher transfer fees. Southampton FC is a business and if any players are to be sold, this will be done at the right time, for the club's maximum benefit. It's a bit like the stock market, where the aim is to sell at high prices and buy at low prices. This isn't rocket science! I reckon any sales of our best players will be very reluctant, if they happen at all. Any fool can see that it makes no sense to dispose of our best players and replace them with inferior players, thus reducing the chances of continuing the club's upward momentum. I think Saints fans can rest assured that Katharina and her board of directors are not fools!

I'm happy. Our Saints are in safe hands. All the media's fictional claptrap will obviously continue until something worth writing or talking about actually happens. I'm finding it all hilarious, as so many journalists don't know what is going on behind the scenes at Southampton FC! The club will tell the facts only when deals have already been done!

Up the Saints!!! Onward and upward the Sputhampton Way!!!
Whilst I do 'enjoy' reading other fans comments on The Saints, it is in my nature to spot mistakes -and sometimes highlight and question them -but your penultimate word is either prophetic or just plain spooky.

Loved the rest of your contribution too.

Hope you understand, my senses have been otherwise dulled by the recent wave of boring, empty, repetitive, uneducated rhetoric purporting to be news or comment.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Water torture continued! The Daily Telegraph today says a Board meeting (including Katherina) was held on Wednesday when MP's situation and the future of the players was discussed. If this did take place, Daily Echo, why have you not been able to report it or better still what was the result?[/p][/quote]What was the result? Probably a Saints win! It is yet more meaningless newspaper talk. All of it is fiction, not fact. I have faith that Katharina and the board will do what is best for Southampton FC. Logic tells me the likely priority at the club right now is keeping Mauricio. I think he will stay to see just how far he can take Saints, which could make him an even hotter property later on. Besides, he is no doubt well aware of Daniel Levy's very well exercised talent for sacking Tottenham managers! I think that if Mauricio doesn't stay with Saints, he would always wonder what he might have achieved at Southampton FC. The five year project has ended, but already Mauricio is interested in the club's next project. That tells us he probably wants to stay. I'm optimistic. Regarding possible player sales, Saints players who play well in Brazil will command higher transfer fees. Southampton FC is a business and if any players are to be sold, this will be done at the right time, for the club's maximum benefit. It's a bit like the stock market, where the aim is to sell at high prices and buy at low prices. This isn't rocket science! I reckon any sales of our best players will be very reluctant, if they happen at all. Any fool can see that it makes no sense to dispose of our best players and replace them with inferior players, thus reducing the chances of continuing the club's upward momentum. I think Saints fans can rest assured that Katharina and her board of directors are not fools! I'm happy. Our Saints are in safe hands. All the media's fictional claptrap will obviously continue until something worth writing or talking about actually happens. I'm finding it all hilarious, as so many journalists don't know what is going on behind the scenes at Southampton FC! The club will tell the facts only when deals have already been done! Up the Saints!!! Onward and upward the Sputhampton Way!!![/p][/quote]Whilst I do 'enjoy' reading other fans comments on The Saints, it is in my nature to spot mistakes -and sometimes highlight and question them -but your penultimate word is either prophetic or just plain spooky. Loved the rest of your contribution too. Hope you understand, my senses have been otherwise dulled by the recent wave of boring, empty, repetitive, uneducated rhetoric purporting to be news or comment. lowe esteem
  • Score: -1

2:55pm Fri 16 May 14

milton road says...

I don't know how anyone can say that Poch has snubbed Saints, when nothing has been said. What do you think happens MP walk into the office sits down gets offered a big salray increase and told everything is fine for ther next five years sign here?
You got MP and he will get financially as a wage whatever he wants.
Then there are his little team that came with him, that has to be sorted out and contracts agreed.
The need to keep Adam and Shaw etc on board.
The finance needed to fund transfers in. Apparantly there are two or three been identified, so he will want assurances on that.
The difficult situation is the fact they paid double for the facilities upgrade, which will not occur again. It is the case they spent 15 million more than needed. The next build project is extending the stadium and that will have to be kept in budget on an agreed contract.
Saints have spent big over the last three years do not be decieved their transfer investments and the facilities project come to near on 100 million.
There is so much to be discussed and its not only getting MP on board but his little team. They are a unit and will stick together whether MP goes or stays.
I believe Poch will see what Saints have to offer and decide to either sign or not before talking to anyone else if he feels it necessary..
Spurs have achieved nothing other than Europa of any note for ages, they are no longer a big club. They do not have the quality of facilities we have. Their gate capacity is not much more than ours. he will not get the freedom at Spurs he will get here. Spurs fans always have false expectations of what they can achieve. So it won't take much for them to turn on MP if he did go.
At the end of the day what will be will be. Depends on the ambition of the board, strenghten the squad by two or three players and we could well upset the apple cart.
If he were to go I would go for Moyes, I still think he is a conned manager conned into taking an over ager and under performing squad on. Who peaked when they one the league. he worked wonders at Everton which is a similar sized club.
Yet one hopes Poch will stay even though his tika taka style has been caught out time and again on the break. No one can doubt we play great football.
Yet with Osvaldo now only worth around 5-6 million do we take the loss or try and get his head the right way round and scoring goals?
We can pout and gesticulate all we want, yet we have no say in the club, no one listens to the fans anymore. Not much we can do but wait and hope.
I don't know how anyone can say that Poch has snubbed Saints, when nothing has been said. What do you think happens MP walk into the office sits down gets offered a big salray increase and told everything is fine for ther next five years sign here? You got MP and he will get financially as a wage whatever he wants. Then there are his little team that came with him, that has to be sorted out and contracts agreed. The need to keep Adam and Shaw etc on board. The finance needed to fund transfers in. Apparantly there are two or three been identified, so he will want assurances on that. The difficult situation is the fact they paid double for the facilities upgrade, which will not occur again. It is the case they spent 15 million more than needed. The next build project is extending the stadium and that will have to be kept in budget on an agreed contract. Saints have spent big over the last three years do not be decieved their transfer investments and the facilities project come to near on 100 million. There is so much to be discussed and its not only getting MP on board but his little team. They are a unit and will stick together whether MP goes or stays. I believe Poch will see what Saints have to offer and decide to either sign or not before talking to anyone else if he feels it necessary.. Spurs have achieved nothing other than Europa of any note for ages, they are no longer a big club. They do not have the quality of facilities we have. Their gate capacity is not much more than ours. he will not get the freedom at Spurs he will get here. Spurs fans always have false expectations of what they can achieve. So it won't take much for them to turn on MP if he did go. At the end of the day what will be will be. Depends on the ambition of the board, strenghten the squad by two or three players and we could well upset the apple cart. If he were to go I would go for Moyes, I still think he is a conned manager conned into taking an over ager and under performing squad on. Who peaked when they one the league. he worked wonders at Everton which is a similar sized club. Yet one hopes Poch will stay even though his tika taka style has been caught out time and again on the break. No one can doubt we play great football. Yet with Osvaldo now only worth around 5-6 million do we take the loss or try and get his head the right way round and scoring goals? We can pout and gesticulate all we want, yet we have no say in the club, no one listens to the fans anymore. Not much we can do but wait and hope. milton road
  • Score: -1

2:57pm Fri 16 May 14

PTID1898 says...

It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP PTID1898
  • Score: -17

3:00pm Fri 16 May 14

milton road says...

*should read is a good manager not conned manager and forgive the other spelling errors.
*should read is a good manager not conned manager and forgive the other spelling errors. milton road
  • Score: -1

3:12pm Fri 16 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

StElsass wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Please wait and see!!
You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.
I don't know who you mean by the whole world but I struggle to think of any non-Saints fan I know who did see us shooting for the stars or no longer being a selling club.
And I don't see how the new board has destroyed anything to this day. To suggest that Man Utd or Liverpool or others would not have bid for our players had they not made that statement or if NC was still there is deluded at best. And as far as I am aware, no players has been sold, have they?
As far as finance is concerned, the facts are telling us that NC left a bit of a legacy and it is always worth remembering that the neighbours to the East were told for years that everything was fine and not to worry about money. We can all see where it took them.
Wait and see, indeed.
Anyway, time for a cold beer in the garden to start the weekend. Chill out people....
You know what, Elsass? I'm going to go and do the same.

Done my bit for l'entente cordiale, time to sink something Belgian and get ready for Colomiers vs. Racing. It's a must-win game or we'll be playing your lot from Mulhouse next season.

Allez, allez, allez Racing!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Please wait and see!![/p][/quote]You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.[/p][/quote]I don't know who you mean by the whole world but I struggle to think of any non-Saints fan I know who did see us shooting for the stars or no longer being a selling club. And I don't see how the new board has destroyed anything to this day. To suggest that Man Utd or Liverpool or others would not have bid for our players had they not made that statement or if NC was still there is deluded at best. And as far as I am aware, no players has been sold, have they? As far as finance is concerned, the facts are telling us that NC left a bit of a legacy and it is always worth remembering that the neighbours to the East were told for years that everything was fine and not to worry about money. We can all see where it took them. Wait and see, indeed. Anyway, time for a cold beer in the garden to start the weekend. Chill out people....[/p][/quote]You know what, Elsass? I'm going to go and do the same. Done my bit for l'entente cordiale, time to sink something Belgian and get ready for Colomiers vs. Racing. It's a must-win game or we'll be playing your lot from Mulhouse next season. Allez, allez, allez Racing!!!!! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: -1

3:13pm Fri 16 May 14

justaSaintsfan says...

SaintJD wrote:
Another question. If MP left but Jesus (the assistant version) was placed in full time charge with the rest of the team in place, what would be our thoughts?

This is on the understanding that he was in charge, has the full respect of the players as much as Poch did, and was told by the club that he didn't have to sell any players unless he wanted to and had a decent budget to play with (not that he was seen as a cheap option who'd let them get away with a fire sale).
That is the thing. There has not been a fire! Your thoughts are interesting.

I'm becoming so fed up with all the fiction and rumours in the media that are negative to Saints that I'm considering starting some positive untruths of my own! How about Mauricio will stay with Saints and we will be Premier League champions next season? Or Rickie, Adam and Luke win the World Cup with England and all stay Saints players? Yes, some of that does sound far fetched, but at least I'm thinking happy thoughts!

My real point is that there will be no fire sale by Southampton FC. Yes, Saints were a selling club in the past, but times have changed, thanks to Saint Marcus and Katharina. Nicola Cortese, who ran Saints almost like a personal fiefdom, decided to resign and the club is now run in a more democratic manner, better suited to its lofty aim of growing the Saints brand worldwide. Part of that aim is to further develop and improve the club's main assets, these being our best players, adding to the playing squad when necessary. Ralph Krueger and Les Reed have already told the fans and the media things along these lines, which seem to have fallen on so many selectively deaf ears. The media in particular have chosen to ignore the words of Ralph and Les, probably because so many journalists are biased towards the big city clubs they support.

What I am saying is that I am ignoring all the media stirring and listening only for official words that will come from Southampton FC. We fans and the media will be informed only when the club has something of substance to tell us. I remember many years ago, when all was quiet for a while from Saints and then Lawrie McMenemy shocked the whole football world by having signed Kevin Keegan, then European footballer of the year. In other words. sometimes good things do happen after all has been quiet at Southampton FC for quite a while. The club has always conducted its business privately and behind closed doors, telling the media only after deals have been completed.

Things are obviously being sorted by the club and Mauricio regarding his contract and I'm guessing also the contracts of his coaching team. I think they will all stick together and with Saints.

The future is bright, onward and upward, the Southampton Way!!!
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Another question. If MP left but Jesus (the assistant version) was placed in full time charge with the rest of the team in place, what would be our thoughts? This is on the understanding that he was in charge, has the full respect of the players as much as Poch did, and was told by the club that he didn't have to sell any players unless he wanted to and had a decent budget to play with (not that he was seen as a cheap option who'd let them get away with a fire sale).[/p][/quote]That is the thing. There has not been a fire! Your thoughts are interesting. I'm becoming so fed up with all the fiction and rumours in the media that are negative to Saints that I'm considering starting some positive untruths of my own! How about Mauricio will stay with Saints and we will be Premier League champions next season? Or Rickie, Adam and Luke win the World Cup with England and all stay Saints players? Yes, some of that does sound far fetched, but at least I'm thinking happy thoughts! My real point is that there will be no fire sale by Southampton FC. Yes, Saints were a selling club in the past, but times have changed, thanks to Saint Marcus and Katharina. Nicola Cortese, who ran Saints almost like a personal fiefdom, decided to resign and the club is now run in a more democratic manner, better suited to its lofty aim of growing the Saints brand worldwide. Part of that aim is to further develop and improve the club's main assets, these being our best players, adding to the playing squad when necessary. Ralph Krueger and Les Reed have already told the fans and the media things along these lines, which seem to have fallen on so many selectively deaf ears. The media in particular have chosen to ignore the words of Ralph and Les, probably because so many journalists are biased towards the big city clubs they support. What I am saying is that I am ignoring all the media stirring and listening only for official words that will come from Southampton FC. We fans and the media will be informed only when the club has something of substance to tell us. I remember many years ago, when all was quiet for a while from Saints and then Lawrie McMenemy shocked the whole football world by having signed Kevin Keegan, then European footballer of the year. In other words. sometimes good things do happen after all has been quiet at Southampton FC for quite a while. The club has always conducted its business privately and behind closed doors, telling the media only after deals have been completed. Things are obviously being sorted by the club and Mauricio regarding his contract and I'm guessing also the contracts of his coaching team. I think they will all stick together and with Saints. The future is bright, onward and upward, the Southampton Way!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 5

3:15pm Fri 16 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

jls217 wrote:
Just re-read my last sorry so many typos. Trying to empty my cholostomy bag and type at the same time has proven to be a drop too many. Wet slippers are not pleasant.
..... and post of the day goes to JLS :-)
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Just re-read my last sorry so many typos. Trying to empty my cholostomy bag and type at the same time has proven to be a drop too many. Wet slippers are not pleasant.[/p][/quote]..... and post of the day goes to JLS :-) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Fri 16 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
Well fcuk me! It really IS Mystic Meg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]Well fcuk me! It really IS Mystic Meg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 8

3:25pm Fri 16 May 14

StElsass says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Please wait and see!!
You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.
I don't know who you mean by the whole world but I struggle to think of any non-Saints fan I know who did see us shooting for the stars or no longer being a selling club.
And I don't see how the new board has destroyed anything to this day. To suggest that Man Utd or Liverpool or others would not have bid for our players had they not made that statement or if NC was still there is deluded at best. And as far as I am aware, no players has been sold, have they?
As far as finance is concerned, the facts are telling us that NC left a bit of a legacy and it is always worth remembering that the neighbours to the East were told for years that everything was fine and not to worry about money. We can all see where it took them.
Wait and see, indeed.
Anyway, time for a cold beer in the garden to start the weekend. Chill out people....
You know what, Elsass? I'm going to go and do the same.

Done my bit for l'entente cordiale, time to sink something Belgian and get ready for Colomiers vs. Racing. It's a must-win game or we'll be playing your lot from Mulhouse next season.

Allez, allez, allez Racing!!!!!
And to think that there was a time when that derby was in the top flight :0(
But you know how we are over there, ripping into each other when it's between ourselves, but sticking together against the rest.
So allez Racing indeed and one day, maybe we'll all be back. Here's to hope!
A ta sante....
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Please wait and see!![/p][/quote]You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.[/p][/quote]I don't know who you mean by the whole world but I struggle to think of any non-Saints fan I know who did see us shooting for the stars or no longer being a selling club. And I don't see how the new board has destroyed anything to this day. To suggest that Man Utd or Liverpool or others would not have bid for our players had they not made that statement or if NC was still there is deluded at best. And as far as I am aware, no players has been sold, have they? As far as finance is concerned, the facts are telling us that NC left a bit of a legacy and it is always worth remembering that the neighbours to the East were told for years that everything was fine and not to worry about money. We can all see where it took them. Wait and see, indeed. Anyway, time for a cold beer in the garden to start the weekend. Chill out people....[/p][/quote]You know what, Elsass? I'm going to go and do the same. Done my bit for l'entente cordiale, time to sink something Belgian and get ready for Colomiers vs. Racing. It's a must-win game or we'll be playing your lot from Mulhouse next season. Allez, allez, allez Racing!!!!![/p][/quote]And to think that there was a time when that derby was in the top flight :0( But you know how we are over there, ripping into each other when it's between ourselves, but sticking together against the rest. So allez Racing indeed and one day, maybe we'll all be back. Here's to hope! A ta sante.... StElsass
  • Score: -1

3:33pm Fri 16 May 14

justaSaintsfan says...

lowe esteem wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
Water torture continued!

The Daily Telegraph today says a Board meeting (including Katherina) was held on Wednesday when MP's situation and the future of the players was discussed. If this did take place, Daily Echo, why have you not been able to report it or better still what was the result?
What was the result? Probably a Saints win!

It is yet more meaningless newspaper talk. All of it is fiction, not fact.

I have faith that Katharina and the board will do what is best for Southampton FC.

Logic tells me the likely priority at the club right now is keeping Mauricio. I think he will stay to see just how far he can take Saints, which could make him an even hotter property later on. Besides, he is no doubt well aware of Daniel Levy's very well exercised talent for sacking Tottenham managers! I think that if Mauricio doesn't stay with Saints, he would always wonder what he might have achieved at Southampton FC. The five year project has ended, but already Mauricio is interested in the club's next project. That tells us he probably wants to stay. I'm optimistic.

Regarding possible player sales, Saints players who play well in Brazil will command higher transfer fees. Southampton FC is a business and if any players are to be sold, this will be done at the right time, for the club's maximum benefit. It's a bit like the stock market, where the aim is to sell at high prices and buy at low prices. This isn't rocket science! I reckon any sales of our best players will be very reluctant, if they happen at all. Any fool can see that it makes no sense to dispose of our best players and replace them with inferior players, thus reducing the chances of continuing the club's upward momentum. I think Saints fans can rest assured that Katharina and her board of directors are not fools!

I'm happy. Our Saints are in safe hands. All the media's fictional claptrap will obviously continue until something worth writing or talking about actually happens. I'm finding it all hilarious, as so many journalists don't know what is going on behind the scenes at Southampton FC! The club will tell the facts only when deals have already been done!

Up the Saints!!! Onward and upward the Sputhampton Way!!!
Whilst I do 'enjoy' reading other fans comments on The Saints, it is in my nature to spot mistakes -and sometimes highlight and question them -but your penultimate word is either prophetic or just plain spooky.

Loved the rest of your contribution too.

Hope you understand, my senses have been otherwise dulled by the recent wave of boring, empty, repetitive, uneducated rhetoric purporting to be news or comment.
Oops! Entirely right! Ha! Ha! Thanks for pointing out my typo and giving me a laugh! Believe it or not, I actually read my words through before posting them!
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Water torture continued! The Daily Telegraph today says a Board meeting (including Katherina) was held on Wednesday when MP's situation and the future of the players was discussed. If this did take place, Daily Echo, why have you not been able to report it or better still what was the result?[/p][/quote]What was the result? Probably a Saints win! It is yet more meaningless newspaper talk. All of it is fiction, not fact. I have faith that Katharina and the board will do what is best for Southampton FC. Logic tells me the likely priority at the club right now is keeping Mauricio. I think he will stay to see just how far he can take Saints, which could make him an even hotter property later on. Besides, he is no doubt well aware of Daniel Levy's very well exercised talent for sacking Tottenham managers! I think that if Mauricio doesn't stay with Saints, he would always wonder what he might have achieved at Southampton FC. The five year project has ended, but already Mauricio is interested in the club's next project. That tells us he probably wants to stay. I'm optimistic. Regarding possible player sales, Saints players who play well in Brazil will command higher transfer fees. Southampton FC is a business and if any players are to be sold, this will be done at the right time, for the club's maximum benefit. It's a bit like the stock market, where the aim is to sell at high prices and buy at low prices. This isn't rocket science! I reckon any sales of our best players will be very reluctant, if they happen at all. Any fool can see that it makes no sense to dispose of our best players and replace them with inferior players, thus reducing the chances of continuing the club's upward momentum. I think Saints fans can rest assured that Katharina and her board of directors are not fools! I'm happy. Our Saints are in safe hands. All the media's fictional claptrap will obviously continue until something worth writing or talking about actually happens. I'm finding it all hilarious, as so many journalists don't know what is going on behind the scenes at Southampton FC! The club will tell the facts only when deals have already been done! Up the Saints!!! Onward and upward the Sputhampton Way!!![/p][/quote]Whilst I do 'enjoy' reading other fans comments on The Saints, it is in my nature to spot mistakes -and sometimes highlight and question them -but your penultimate word is either prophetic or just plain spooky. Loved the rest of your contribution too. Hope you understand, my senses have been otherwise dulled by the recent wave of boring, empty, repetitive, uneducated rhetoric purporting to be news or comment.[/p][/quote]Oops! Entirely right! Ha! Ha! Thanks for pointing out my typo and giving me a laugh! Believe it or not, I actually read my words through before posting them! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 1

3:44pm Fri 16 May 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC.

Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation.
SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club.

That will add 10 points a season.

Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB.

Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup.

We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions.

NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.
We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC. Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation. SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club. That will add 10 points a season. Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB. Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup. We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions. NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 7

3:55pm Fri 16 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

StElsass wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Please wait and see!!
You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.
I don't know who you mean by the whole world but I struggle to think of any non-Saints fan I know who did see us shooting for the stars or no longer being a selling club.
And I don't see how the new board has destroyed anything to this day. To suggest that Man Utd or Liverpool or others would not have bid for our players had they not made that statement or if NC was still there is deluded at best. And as far as I am aware, no players has been sold, have they?
As far as finance is concerned, the facts are telling us that NC left a bit of a legacy and it is always worth remembering that the neighbours to the East were told for years that everything was fine and not to worry about money. We can all see where it took them.
Wait and see, indeed.
Anyway, time for a cold beer in the garden to start the weekend. Chill out people....
You know what, Elsass? I'm going to go and do the same.

Done my bit for l'entente cordiale, time to sink something Belgian and get ready for Colomiers vs. Racing. It's a must-win game or we'll be playing your lot from Mulhouse next season.

Allez, allez, allez Racing!!!!!
And to think that there was a time when that derby was in the top flight :0(
But you know how we are over there, ripping into each other when it's between ourselves, but sticking together against the rest.
So allez Racing indeed and one day, maybe we'll all be back. Here's to hope!
A ta sante....
Funny thing, isn't it. As a Saints fan, I keep an eye on the other teams around the South and (with one notable exception) I like to see them do well. Likewise here, I watch out for other local teams.

Wouldn't it be great if Racing, Mulhouse and Colmar (maybe with Shiltigheim, Raon Etape and even Nancy) all reached League 1. That would be like having the Cherries, Brighton, Reading and Aldershot with us in the Prem.

Of course, if Metz 'did a Pompey' it would be like - off the top of my Belgian-beer-induced
-thinking head - someone like, say, Pompey doing a Pompey.

I think I need something German or Czech to clear my head!
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Please wait and see!![/p][/quote]You are right, we all need to wait and see as to what movements will occur. But Warrens has a valid point, the perception of our club from the outside has changed dramatically because of totally gormless statements by the new board relating to our finances.[/p][/quote]I don't know who you mean by the whole world but I struggle to think of any non-Saints fan I know who did see us shooting for the stars or no longer being a selling club. And I don't see how the new board has destroyed anything to this day. To suggest that Man Utd or Liverpool or others would not have bid for our players had they not made that statement or if NC was still there is deluded at best. And as far as I am aware, no players has been sold, have they? As far as finance is concerned, the facts are telling us that NC left a bit of a legacy and it is always worth remembering that the neighbours to the East were told for years that everything was fine and not to worry about money. We can all see where it took them. Wait and see, indeed. Anyway, time for a cold beer in the garden to start the weekend. Chill out people....[/p][/quote]You know what, Elsass? I'm going to go and do the same. Done my bit for l'entente cordiale, time to sink something Belgian and get ready for Colomiers vs. Racing. It's a must-win game or we'll be playing your lot from Mulhouse next season. Allez, allez, allez Racing!!!!![/p][/quote]And to think that there was a time when that derby was in the top flight :0( But you know how we are over there, ripping into each other when it's between ourselves, but sticking together against the rest. So allez Racing indeed and one day, maybe we'll all be back. Here's to hope! A ta sante....[/p][/quote]Funny thing, isn't it. As a Saints fan, I keep an eye on the other teams around the South and (with one notable exception) I like to see them do well. Likewise here, I watch out for other local teams. Wouldn't it be great if Racing, Mulhouse and Colmar (maybe with Shiltigheim, Raon Etape and even Nancy) all reached League 1. That would be like having the Cherries, Brighton, Reading and Aldershot with us in the Prem. Of course, if Metz 'did a Pompey' it would be like - off the top of my Belgian-beer-induced -thinking head - someone like, say, Pompey doing a Pompey. I think I need something German or Czech to clear my head! Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: -3

3:57pm Fri 16 May 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
you want to stop looking at the world through that fish eye lens mate
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]you want to stop looking at the world through that fish eye lens mate Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Fri 16 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC.

Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation.
SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club.

That will add 10 points a season.

Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB.

Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup.

We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions.

NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.
Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%.

It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC. Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation. SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club. That will add 10 points a season. Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB. Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup. We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions. NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.[/p][/quote]Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%. It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

4:03pm Fri 16 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

4:11pm Fri 16 May 14

Big Mac says...

As it's Firday afternoon and the Sports Desk is obviously closed for the day, maybe someone could consider removing the 'How will Saints get on against Man Utd' poll/ballot.
I'm sure if they asked one of the juniors they could likely find out the result from one of their 'reliable' sources in the national media – there again I suppose they could just make it up and let us all know!
As it's Firday afternoon and the Sports Desk is obviously closed for the day, maybe someone could consider removing the 'How will Saints get on against Man Utd' poll/ballot. I'm sure if they asked one of the juniors they could likely find out the result from one of their 'reliable' sources in the national media – there again I suppose they could just make it up and let us all know! Big Mac
  • Score: 2

4:14pm Fri 16 May 14

promised land says...

PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
You must spend many a sleepless night wishing and praying for the demise of SFC. Just point out where the trouble is ? I will make it easy for you; this club has assets. Assets that can be reinvested. It's called evolution, it happens in football....your troubled club came about through total mismanagement. Resulting in pFC becoming an even bigger laughing stock.....Keep dreaming.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]You must spend many a sleepless night wishing and praying for the demise of SFC. Just point out where the trouble is ? I will make it easy for you; this club has assets. Assets that can be reinvested. It's called evolution, it happens in football....your troubled club came about through total mismanagement. Resulting in pFC becoming an even bigger laughing stock.....Keep dreaming. promised land
  • Score: 1

4:21pm Fri 16 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

well as its Friday and there is no real news to go on lets all start our own silly little rumours.

I`ll go first,
Messi has just signed a contract extension with Barcelona for a reported £16mill a year until 2019 (£80mill in total). did they offer him this deal because saints had made a bid of £93mill for him? could be true, and of course the contract means nothing so we await his answer with baited breath. that's why theres no news from the club!
well as its Friday and there is no real news to go on lets all start our own silly little rumours. I`ll go first, Messi has just signed a contract extension with Barcelona for a reported £16mill a year until 2019 (£80mill in total). did they offer him this deal because saints had made a bid of £93mill for him? could be true, and of course the contract means nothing so we await his answer with baited breath. that's why theres no news from the club! el caballo santos101
  • Score: -1

5:01pm Fri 16 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
Shhhhhush!
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]Shhhhhush! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

5:04pm Fri 16 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Another question. If MP left but Jesus (the assistant version) was placed in full time charge with the rest of the team in place, what would be our thoughts?

This is on the understanding that he was in charge, has the full respect of the players as much as Poch did, and was told by the club that he didn't have to sell any players unless he wanted to and had a decent budget to play with (not that he was seen as a cheap option who'd let them get away with a fire sale).
That is the thing. There has not been a fire! Your thoughts are interesting.

I'm becoming so fed up with all the fiction and rumours in the media that are negative to Saints that I'm considering starting some positive untruths of my own! How about Mauricio will stay with Saints and we will be Premier League champions next season? Or Rickie, Adam and Luke win the World Cup with England and all stay Saints players? Yes, some of that does sound far fetched, but at least I'm thinking happy thoughts!

My real point is that there will be no fire sale by Southampton FC. Yes, Saints were a selling club in the past, but times have changed, thanks to Saint Marcus and Katharina. Nicola Cortese, who ran Saints almost like a personal fiefdom, decided to resign and the club is now run in a more democratic manner, better suited to its lofty aim of growing the Saints brand worldwide. Part of that aim is to further develop and improve the club's main assets, these being our best players, adding to the playing squad when necessary. Ralph Krueger and Les Reed have already told the fans and the media things along these lines, which seem to have fallen on so many selectively deaf ears. The media in particular have chosen to ignore the words of Ralph and Les, probably because so many journalists are biased towards the big city clubs they support.

What I am saying is that I am ignoring all the media stirring and listening only for official words that will come from Southampton FC. We fans and the media will be informed only when the club has something of substance to tell us. I remember many years ago, when all was quiet for a while from Saints and then Lawrie McMenemy shocked the whole football world by having signed Kevin Keegan, then European footballer of the year. In other words. sometimes good things do happen after all has been quiet at Southampton FC for quite a while. The club has always conducted its business privately and behind closed doors, telling the media only after deals have been completed.

Things are obviously being sorted by the club and Mauricio regarding his contract and I'm guessing also the contracts of his coaching team. I think they will all stick together and with Saints.

The future is bright, onward and upward, the Southampton Way!!!
Hopefully tomorrow then,Poch will call a press conference at the Potters Heron,and announce the arrival of Franck Ribery!
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Another question. If MP left but Jesus (the assistant version) was placed in full time charge with the rest of the team in place, what would be our thoughts? This is on the understanding that he was in charge, has the full respect of the players as much as Poch did, and was told by the club that he didn't have to sell any players unless he wanted to and had a decent budget to play with (not that he was seen as a cheap option who'd let them get away with a fire sale).[/p][/quote]That is the thing. There has not been a fire! Your thoughts are interesting. I'm becoming so fed up with all the fiction and rumours in the media that are negative to Saints that I'm considering starting some positive untruths of my own! How about Mauricio will stay with Saints and we will be Premier League champions next season? Or Rickie, Adam and Luke win the World Cup with England and all stay Saints players? Yes, some of that does sound far fetched, but at least I'm thinking happy thoughts! My real point is that there will be no fire sale by Southampton FC. Yes, Saints were a selling club in the past, but times have changed, thanks to Saint Marcus and Katharina. Nicola Cortese, who ran Saints almost like a personal fiefdom, decided to resign and the club is now run in a more democratic manner, better suited to its lofty aim of growing the Saints brand worldwide. Part of that aim is to further develop and improve the club's main assets, these being our best players, adding to the playing squad when necessary. Ralph Krueger and Les Reed have already told the fans and the media things along these lines, which seem to have fallen on so many selectively deaf ears. The media in particular have chosen to ignore the words of Ralph and Les, probably because so many journalists are biased towards the big city clubs they support. What I am saying is that I am ignoring all the media stirring and listening only for official words that will come from Southampton FC. We fans and the media will be informed only when the club has something of substance to tell us. I remember many years ago, when all was quiet for a while from Saints and then Lawrie McMenemy shocked the whole football world by having signed Kevin Keegan, then European footballer of the year. In other words. sometimes good things do happen after all has been quiet at Southampton FC for quite a while. The club has always conducted its business privately and behind closed doors, telling the media only after deals have been completed. Things are obviously being sorted by the club and Mauricio regarding his contract and I'm guessing also the contracts of his coaching team. I think they will all stick together and with Saints. The future is bright, onward and upward, the Southampton Way!!![/p][/quote]Hopefully tomorrow then,Poch will call a press conference at the Potters Heron,and announce the arrival of Franck Ribery! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:08pm Fri 16 May 14

PTID1898 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
Every player is for sale at a price that's why they sign long contracts so the club is garunteed money upon sale it's not because they are pledging their future to the club. They will go as they want to play for bigger and better clubs because you will not finish higher than 8th next season your manger has already said he cannot take the team any further, you are just the same as spurs and Newcastle you think you have a given right to play in Europe but all three clubs are just not good enough and never will be .. And as for your players in the World Cup they will not make a blind bit of difference as we wil not get out of the group and you have only three players at the World Cup we had four and when we finished 8th in the prem we had 57 points you only had 56 so that's another one up on you never mind !!!!PUP
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Every player is for sale at a price that's why they sign long contracts so the club is garunteed money upon sale it's not because they are pledging their future to the club. They will go as they want to play for bigger and better clubs because you will not finish higher than 8th next season your manger has already said he cannot take the team any further, you are just the same as spurs and Newcastle you think you have a given right to play in Europe but all three clubs are just not good enough and never will be .. And as for your players in the World Cup they will not make a blind bit of difference as we wil not get out of the group and you have only three players at the World Cup we had four and when we finished 8th in the prem we had 57 points you only had 56 so that's another one up on you never mind !!!!PUP PTID1898
  • Score: -2

5:13pm Fri 16 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

PTID1898 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
Every player is for sale at a price that's why they sign long contracts so the club is garunteed money upon sale it's not because they are pledging their future to the club. They will go as they want to play for bigger and better clubs because you will not finish higher than 8th next season your manger has already said he cannot take the team any further, you are just the same as spurs and Newcastle you think you have a given right to play in Europe but all three clubs are just not good enough and never will be .. And as for your players in the World Cup they will not make a blind bit of difference as we wil not get out of the group and you have only three players at the World Cup we had four and when we finished 8th in the prem we had 57 points you only had 56 so that's another one up on you never mind !!!!PUP
.....and...breathe.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Every player is for sale at a price that's why they sign long contracts so the club is garunteed money upon sale it's not because they are pledging their future to the club. They will go as they want to play for bigger and better clubs because you will not finish higher than 8th next season your manger has already said he cannot take the team any further, you are just the same as spurs and Newcastle you think you have a given right to play in Europe but all three clubs are just not good enough and never will be .. And as for your players in the World Cup they will not make a blind bit of difference as we wil not get out of the group and you have only three players at the World Cup we had four and when we finished 8th in the prem we had 57 points you only had 56 so that's another one up on you never mind !!!!PUP[/p][/quote].....and...breathe. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:40pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

5:57pm Fri 16 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN el caballo santos101
  • Score: -1

6:14pm Fri 16 May 14

andysaint says...

Ignore the speculation - best piece of info on all this is Simon Peach interview on 5 live. Sums it up really - Peach is very ITK and expects AL to leave -(i think we all expect that) but he's hopeful Poch will stay and if he stays then so will LS.
I do prefer to listen to people who actually have some knowledge !!!
Ignore the speculation - best piece of info on all this is Simon Peach interview on 5 live. Sums it up really - Peach is very ITK and expects AL to leave -(i think we all expect that) but he's hopeful Poch will stay and if he stays then so will LS. I do prefer to listen to people who actually have some knowledge !!! andysaint
  • Score: 2

6:17pm Fri 16 May 14

andysaint says...

P.S.
The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow
P.S. The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow andysaint
  • Score: 0

6:41pm Fri 16 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Thought some of the new board were experts with the media !!!
Thought some of the new board were experts with the media !!! NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -2

6:43pm Fri 16 May 14

StElsass says...

andysaint wrote:
P.S.
The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow
Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.
[quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: P.S. The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow[/p][/quote]Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice. StElsass
  • Score: 0

6:54pm Fri 16 May 14

andysaint says...

StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
P.S.
The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow
Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.
Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: P.S. The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow[/p][/quote]Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.[/p][/quote]Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit, andysaint
  • Score: -1

7:00pm Fri 16 May 14

StElsass says...

andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
P.S.
The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow
Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.
Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,
He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....
[quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: P.S. The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow[/p][/quote]Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.[/p][/quote]Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,[/p][/quote]He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals.... StElsass
  • Score: 0

7:01pm Fri 16 May 14

andysaint says...

StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
P.S.
The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow
Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.
Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,
He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....
Which is why your reading this.........
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: P.S. The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow[/p][/quote]Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.[/p][/quote]Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,[/p][/quote]He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....[/p][/quote]Which is why your reading this......... andysaint
  • Score: 0

7:02pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
The "Icarus of football clubs" - faruking priceless, why couldn't I think of that one. PMSL
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]The "Icarus of football clubs" - faruking priceless, why couldn't I think of that one. PMSL jls217
  • Score: -1

7:03pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

If I were Dutch I would be getting more than annoyed at Van Gaal's constant interrogation about the Manure vacancy, he's trying to focus on a World Cup. The media have a lot to answer for.
If I were Dutch I would be getting more than annoyed at Van Gaal's constant interrogation about the Manure vacancy, he's trying to focus on a World Cup. The media have a lot to answer for. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

7:08pm Fri 16 May 14

StElsass says...

andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
P.S.
The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow
Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.
Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,
He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....
Which is why your reading this.........
I'm reading this because I'm getting bored waiting. I'd tell you what I'm waiting for but it's none of your business; so I won't.
[quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: P.S. The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow[/p][/quote]Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.[/p][/quote]Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,[/p][/quote]He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....[/p][/quote]Which is why your reading this.........[/p][/quote]I'm reading this because I'm getting bored waiting. I'd tell you what I'm waiting for but it's none of your business; so I won't. StElsass
  • Score: -1

7:09pm Fri 16 May 14

miltonarcher says...

Southampton owner Katharina Liebherr held a board meeting on Wednesday night over Tottenham Hotspur’s desire to speak to manager Mauricio Pochettino.
Club officials discussed how to approach the situation regarding Pochettino, and the offers for Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana.
Pochettino is the favourite to replace Tim Sherwood as head coach at White Hart Lane and Spurs are keen to hold talks with him. Southampton are also considering how they deal with Manchester United’s £27 million offer for left-back Shaw and Liverpool’s £20 million approach over midfielder Lallana.
Pochettino has one year left to run on his contract and Southampton still plan to offer the 42-year-old a new deal, despite the interest from Spurs.
Tottenham may also wish to talk to other candidates, such as Ajax manager Frank de Boer, and will wait to see whether Carlo Ancelotti guarantees his position at Real Madrid for another season by winning the Champions League.
Southampton owner Katharina Liebherr held a board meeting on Wednesday night over Tottenham Hotspur’s desire to speak to manager Mauricio Pochettino. Club officials discussed how to approach the situation regarding Pochettino, and the offers for Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana. Pochettino is the favourite to replace Tim Sherwood as head coach at White Hart Lane and Spurs are keen to hold talks with him. Southampton are also considering how they deal with Manchester United’s £27 million offer for left-back Shaw and Liverpool’s £20 million approach over midfielder Lallana. Pochettino has one year left to run on his contract and Southampton still plan to offer the 42-year-old a new deal, despite the interest from Spurs. Tottenham may also wish to talk to other candidates, such as Ajax manager Frank de Boer, and will wait to see whether Carlo Ancelotti guarantees his position at Real Madrid for another season by winning the Champions League. miltonarcher
  • Score: -1

7:12pm Fri 16 May 14

miltonarcher says...

Mauricio Pochettino will be expected to speak English in public if he wants to become the new Tottenham Hotspur head coach.
Pochettino is among the favourites to take over from Tim Sherwood at White Hart Lane.
The Argentine has used a translator for interviews since being appointed in January 2013 as the Southampton manager, despite the fact he speaks good English.
It is believed that Pochettino has continued to use the translator as a way of giving himself more time to answer questions and avoid being caught out.
However, following the club’s bad experience with Spanish-speaking Juande Ramos, Tottenham would want Pochettino to conduct interviews in English.
Both above cut and paste from the Telegraph
Mauricio Pochettino will be expected to speak English in public if he wants to become the new Tottenham Hotspur head coach. Pochettino is among the favourites to take over from Tim Sherwood at White Hart Lane. The Argentine has used a translator for interviews since being appointed in January 2013 as the Southampton manager, despite the fact he speaks good English. It is believed that Pochettino has continued to use the translator as a way of giving himself more time to answer questions and avoid being caught out. However, following the club’s bad experience with Spanish-speaking Juande Ramos, Tottenham would want Pochettino to conduct interviews in English. Both above cut and paste from the Telegraph miltonarcher
  • Score: 1

7:12pm Fri 16 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

jls217 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
The "Icarus of football clubs" - faruking priceless, why couldn't I think of that one. PMSL
And Saints are 9th in all clubs to send players to the World Cup. Skates are soooo jealous they come on to our site and show their very little fangs. It's laughable.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]The "Icarus of football clubs" - faruking priceless, why couldn't I think of that one. PMSL[/p][/quote]And Saints are 9th in all clubs to send players to the World Cup. Skates are soooo jealous they come on to our site and show their very little fangs. It's laughable. DisplacedFan
  • Score: -1

7:13pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

andysaint wrote:
Ignore the speculation - best piece of info on all this is Simon Peach interview on 5 live. Sums it up really - Peach is very ITK and expects AL to leave -(i think we all expect that) but he's hopeful Poch will stay and if he stays then so will LS.
I do prefer to listen to people who actually have some knowledge !!!
The point is why does he expect him to leave? The MD of our web design company showed me a text from his brother who was at the PFA awards dinner and asked Adam if he was staying, he said he wanted to but it was up to the board to do the right thing. Jesus also said more or less exactly the same thing to me and that MoPo was pushing them hard, hence the delay in the management teams decision whether to commit or not. None of us know for sure but it does appear it's in the boards hands to make it happen.
[quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: Ignore the speculation - best piece of info on all this is Simon Peach interview on 5 live. Sums it up really - Peach is very ITK and expects AL to leave -(i think we all expect that) but he's hopeful Poch will stay and if he stays then so will LS. I do prefer to listen to people who actually have some knowledge !!![/p][/quote]The point is why does he expect him to leave? The MD of our web design company showed me a text from his brother who was at the PFA awards dinner and asked Adam if he was staying, he said he wanted to but it was up to the board to do the right thing. Jesus also said more or less exactly the same thing to me and that MoPo was pushing them hard, hence the delay in the management teams decision whether to commit or not. None of us know for sure but it does appear it's in the boards hands to make it happen. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

7:16pm Fri 16 May 14

andysaint says...

StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
P.S.
The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow
Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.
Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,
He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....
Which is why your reading this.........
I'm reading this because I'm getting bored waiting. I'd tell you what I'm waiting for but it's none of your business; so I won't.
Im not in the least interested in what your waiting for - clearly not the best day for you - i do hope it gets better
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: P.S. The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow[/p][/quote]Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.[/p][/quote]Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,[/p][/quote]He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....[/p][/quote]Which is why your reading this.........[/p][/quote]I'm reading this because I'm getting bored waiting. I'd tell you what I'm waiting for but it's none of your business; so I won't.[/p][/quote]Im not in the least interested in what your waiting for - clearly not the best day for you - i do hope it gets better andysaint
  • Score: 1

7:18pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Mauricio Pochettino will be expected to speak English in public if he wants to become the new Tottenham Hotspur head coach.
Pochettino is among the favourites to take over from Tim Sherwood at White Hart Lane.
The Argentine has used a translator for interviews since being appointed in January 2013 as the Southampton manager, despite the fact he speaks good English.
It is believed that Pochettino has continued to use the translator as a way of giving himself more time to answer questions and avoid being caught out.
However, following the club’s bad experience with Spanish-speaking Juande Ramos, Tottenham would want Pochettino to conduct interviews in English.
Both above cut and paste from the Telegraph
Unfortunately it was reported by a Spanish commentator on Sky sports that Poochy speaks English quite well and speaks English when with the players. He also said we can expect Poochy to be speaking English from the start of next season. He added he doesn't understand why Poochy insisted on Spanish as his English is good - reckons it was just his little quirk.
Don't shoot me - only the messenger here.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Mauricio Pochettino will be expected to speak English in public if he wants to become the new Tottenham Hotspur head coach. Pochettino is among the favourites to take over from Tim Sherwood at White Hart Lane. The Argentine has used a translator for interviews since being appointed in January 2013 as the Southampton manager, despite the fact he speaks good English. It is believed that Pochettino has continued to use the translator as a way of giving himself more time to answer questions and avoid being caught out. However, following the club’s bad experience with Spanish-speaking Juande Ramos, Tottenham would want Pochettino to conduct interviews in English. Both above cut and paste from the Telegraph[/p][/quote]Unfortunately it was reported by a Spanish commentator on Sky sports that Poochy speaks English quite well and speaks English when with the players. He also said we can expect Poochy to be speaking English from the start of next season. He added he doesn't understand why Poochy insisted on Spanish as his English is good - reckons it was just his little quirk. Don't shoot me - only the messenger here. jls217
  • Score: 2

7:18pm Fri 16 May 14

florida saint says...

im really sfcuked of with all this sh it. same old same old. of course they are all going , all gonna double their money and play for the biggest clubs in the prem. so let em all go if they don't wanna be here,.get 30 mill for all our brilliant youngsters plus sky money, that is one hell of a lot of money to re-invest. this is pure agony, get it done and move on, my heart cant take this all summer, effen love the saints.....
im really sfcuked of with all this sh it. same old same old. of course they are all going , all gonna double their money and play for the biggest clubs in the prem. so let em all go if they don't wanna be here,.get 30 mill for all our brilliant youngsters plus sky money, that is one hell of a lot of money to re-invest. this is pure agony, get it done and move on, my heart cant take this all summer, effen love the saints..... florida saint
  • Score: 1

7:20pm Fri 16 May 14

StElsass says...

andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
StElsass wrote:
andysaint wrote:
P.S.
The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow
Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.
Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,
He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....
Which is why your reading this.........
I'm reading this because I'm getting bored waiting. I'd tell you what I'm waiting for but it's none of your business; so I won't.
Im not in the least interested in what your waiting for - clearly not the best day for you - i do hope it gets better
My day's fine and about to get better, thanks. Have a good one yourself. Cheers
[quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: P.S. The Peach interview is on Talksport and the link is now on Newsnow[/p][/quote]Ignore the speculation, listen to Talksport instead! Yep, makes sense! Thanks for the advice.[/p][/quote]Simon Peach is a lot closer to the situation than anyone else I've heard - so its not idle speculation from them - perhaps you didnt understand that bit,[/p][/quote]He can be as close as you like him to be, it is still speculation. As long as it's not on the club website or officially announced by the club, I couldn't care less what Simon Peach or anyone else has to say to make themselves look bigger than us, lower mortals....[/p][/quote]Which is why your reading this.........[/p][/quote]I'm reading this because I'm getting bored waiting. I'd tell you what I'm waiting for but it's none of your business; so I won't.[/p][/quote]Im not in the least interested in what your waiting for - clearly not the best day for you - i do hope it gets better[/p][/quote]My day's fine and about to get better, thanks. Have a good one yourself. Cheers StElsass
  • Score: -2

7:26pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
well as its Friday and there is no real news to go on lets all start our own silly little rumours.

I`ll go first,
Messi has just signed a contract extension with Barcelona for a reported £16mill a year until 2019 (£80mill in total). did they offer him this deal because saints had made a bid of £93mill for him? could be true, and of course the contract means nothing so we await his answer with baited breath. that's why theres no news from the club!
It's all smoke and mirrors. I know for a fact that Saints catering is doing Paella for next season - that can only mean one thing, our bid was successful and we're getting Messi. Now when Poochy starts waffling someone can understand him. What nr will he wear?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: well as its Friday and there is no real news to go on lets all start our own silly little rumours. I`ll go first, Messi has just signed a contract extension with Barcelona for a reported £16mill a year until 2019 (£80mill in total). did they offer him this deal because saints had made a bid of £93mill for him? could be true, and of course the contract means nothing so we await his answer with baited breath. that's why theres no news from the club![/p][/quote]It's all smoke and mirrors. I know for a fact that Saints catering is doing Paella for next season - that can only mean one thing, our bid was successful and we're getting Messi. Now when Poochy starts waffling someone can understand him. What nr will he wear? jls217
  • Score: 1

7:28pm Fri 16 May 14

miltonarcher says...

warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Drivel
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Drivel miltonarcher
  • Score: 3

7:34pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

miltonarcher wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Drivel
Do you honestly believe NC wouldn't have got the players and manager signed up before the end of the season thereby avoiding all this? Again none of us know for sure but his past actions on this front strongly suggest he would.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Drivel[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe NC wouldn't have got the players and manager signed up before the end of the season thereby avoiding all this? Again none of us know for sure but his past actions on this front strongly suggest he would. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

7:34pm Fri 16 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -5

7:35pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
jls217 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
The "Icarus of football clubs" - faruking priceless, why couldn't I think of that one. PMSL
And Saints are 9th in all clubs to send players to the World Cup. Skates are soooo jealous they come on to our site and show their very little fangs. It's laughable.
An important little set of fact here that the harbour bottom dwellers from the never to be entered end of the M27 have glossed over -
2 of the 3 going came through our youth setup.
The 3rd came to us from the lower division - some genius saw his potential.
It would have been four players going but for an unfortunate turn of fate leading to injury.
We have a couple of others going representing top flight countries too.

Now, my memory may not be 100% on this but didn't the amoebas buy all of their world cup players in on inflated prices and salaries which eventually bust them. (and wasn't the money used a little too close to the washing machine also?)
Only asking - not an accusation you understand.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]The "Icarus of football clubs" - faruking priceless, why couldn't I think of that one. PMSL[/p][/quote]And Saints are 9th in all clubs to send players to the World Cup. Skates are soooo jealous they come on to our site and show their very little fangs. It's laughable.[/p][/quote]An important little set of fact here that the harbour bottom dwellers from the never to be entered end of the M27 have glossed over - 2 of the 3 going came through our youth setup. The 3rd came to us from the lower division - some genius saw his potential. It would have been four players going but for an unfortunate turn of fate leading to injury. We have a couple of others going representing top flight countries too. Now, my memory may not be 100% on this but didn't the amoebas buy all of their world cup players in on inflated prices and salaries which eventually bust them. (and wasn't the money used a little too close to the washing machine also?) Only asking - not an accusation you understand. jls217
  • Score: 4

7:36pm Fri 16 May 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC.

Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation.
SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club.

That will add 10 points a season.

Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB.

Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup.

We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions.

NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.
Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%.

It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.
Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches.

Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there..

Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League.

I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable.

Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League.

This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC. Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation. SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club. That will add 10 points a season. Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB. Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup. We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions. NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.[/p][/quote]Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%. It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.[/p][/quote]Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches. Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there.. Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League. I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable. Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League. This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 7

7:39pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

Pay up Pimpey, Pimpey pay up!!!!!

I'm faruckin' creased up here.
Pay up Pimpey, Pimpey pay up!!!!! I'm faruckin' creased up here. jls217
  • Score: 0

7:41pm Fri 16 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
andysaint wrote:
Ignore the speculation - best piece of info on all this is Simon Peach interview on 5 live. Sums it up really - Peach is very ITK and expects AL to leave -(i think we all expect that) but he's hopeful Poch will stay and if he stays then so will LS.
I do prefer to listen to people who actually have some knowledge !!!
The point is why does he expect him to leave? The MD of our web design company showed me a text from his brother who was at the PFA awards dinner and asked Adam if he was staying, he said he wanted to but it was up to the board to do the right thing. Jesus also said more or less exactly the same thing to me and that MoPo was pushing them hard, hence the delay in the management teams decision whether to commit or not. None of us know for sure but it does appear it's in the boards hands to make it happen.
Yes I'm sure they're ready to make "it" happen.

http://www.monetas.c
h/htm/653/en/Current
-persons-responsible
-CWL-Sports-AG-in-Li
quidation.htm?subj=1
843182

Josef Lenhart, in case you don't recognise the name, was appointed to your board of directors in January, came to meet the club staff, and then stood down from the Board (sacked?) the next day. What was that about? Any investigative journalism DE?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: Ignore the speculation - best piece of info on all this is Simon Peach interview on 5 live. Sums it up really - Peach is very ITK and expects AL to leave -(i think we all expect that) but he's hopeful Poch will stay and if he stays then so will LS. I do prefer to listen to people who actually have some knowledge !!![/p][/quote]The point is why does he expect him to leave? The MD of our web design company showed me a text from his brother who was at the PFA awards dinner and asked Adam if he was staying, he said he wanted to but it was up to the board to do the right thing. Jesus also said more or less exactly the same thing to me and that MoPo was pushing them hard, hence the delay in the management teams decision whether to commit or not. None of us know for sure but it does appear it's in the boards hands to make it happen.[/p][/quote]Yes I'm sure they're ready to make "it" happen. http://www.monetas.c h/htm/653/en/Current -persons-responsible -CWL-Sports-AG-in-Li quidation.htm?subj=1 843182 Josef Lenhart, in case you don't recognise the name, was appointed to your board of directors in January, came to meet the club staff, and then stood down from the Board (sacked?) the next day. What was that about? Any investigative journalism DE? Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -2

7:45pm Fri 16 May 14

Positively4thStreet says...

miltonarcher wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...
Drivel
We need to stop bickering,and "wait to worry".
Whatever the outcome,it won't be anywhere near as bad as some of the times we've all been through before.
There's nothing any of us can do about it anyway,we're just the fans.As someone rightly pointed out,this is down to the board to sort out.
Whatever happens though,its never going to be as bad as before;we're not going to end up with a couple of unknown Dutchmen,trying to save us from relegation,with a team of kids or anything.
And if Pochettino does leave(and I sincerely hope that isn't the case),then there will still be a lot of extremely capable,and high profile managers who would walk across broken glass to get the chance to come and manage a team like Saints.
Everything will be fine,we should all be getting excited about the prospect of an exciting World cup,with lots to cheer for.Rickie will win it with a penalty...wait and see!
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: The whole world thought we were shooting for the stars and no longer a 'selling' club with a billionairess owner….the new board managed to destroy 5 years work in 5 minutes….the loss of NC will be seen as the day we gave up on aspiration...[/p][/quote]Drivel[/p][/quote]We need to stop bickering,and "wait to worry". Whatever the outcome,it won't be anywhere near as bad as some of the times we've all been through before. There's nothing any of us can do about it anyway,we're just the fans.As someone rightly pointed out,this is down to the board to sort out. Whatever happens though,its never going to be as bad as before;we're not going to end up with a couple of unknown Dutchmen,trying to save us from relegation,with a team of kids or anything. And if Pochettino does leave(and I sincerely hope that isn't the case),then there will still be a lot of extremely capable,and high profile managers who would walk across broken glass to get the chance to come and manage a team like Saints. Everything will be fine,we should all be getting excited about the prospect of an exciting World cup,with lots to cheer for.Rickie will win it with a penalty...wait and see! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

7:49pm Fri 16 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

7:53pm Fri 16 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -3

8:01pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway.

The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway. The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

8:02pm Fri 16 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC.

Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation.
SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club.

That will add 10 points a season.

Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB.

Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup.

We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions.

NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.
Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%.

It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.
Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches.

Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there..

Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League.

I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable.

Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League.

This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.
Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip.

When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC. Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation. SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club. That will add 10 points a season. Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB. Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup. We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions. NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.[/p][/quote]Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%. It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.[/p][/quote]Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches. Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there.. Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League. I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable. Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League. This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.[/p][/quote]Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip. When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

8:07pm Fri 16 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway.

The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.
That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway. The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.[/p][/quote]That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -2

8:23pm Fri 16 May 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC.

Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation.
SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club.

That will add 10 points a season.

Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB.

Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup.

We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions.

NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.
Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%.

It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.
Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches.

Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there..

Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League.

I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable.

Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League.

This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.
Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip.

When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.
Fain One - not sure how it will all work out - but with the England Crowd you can't go far wrong - they know how to have a good time and it is equally as good as supporting the Saints.

Not sure about getting on line out there - but in the hotels there must be a decent connection.

I predict Ads will shine in Brazil and Rickie will deliver his usual good service - it may go down to penalties and SRL will never let you down. - Luke Shaw will provide a few telling crosses and all will make the City of Southampton and its Supporters proud.

It is a good time to be a Saints Fan.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC. Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation. SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club. That will add 10 points a season. Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB. Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup. We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions. NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.[/p][/quote]Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%. It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.[/p][/quote]Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches. Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there.. Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League. I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable. Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League. This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.[/p][/quote]Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip. When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.[/p][/quote]Fain One - not sure how it will all work out - but with the England Crowd you can't go far wrong - they know how to have a good time and it is equally as good as supporting the Saints. Not sure about getting on line out there - but in the hotels there must be a decent connection. I predict Ads will shine in Brazil and Rickie will deliver his usual good service - it may go down to penalties and SRL will never let you down. - Luke Shaw will provide a few telling crosses and all will make the City of Southampton and its Supporters proud. It is a good time to be a Saints Fan. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 5

8:27pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway.

The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.
They don't like it up 'em Capt Mainwaring.

Can't argue with price of the shares - it's all that matters.

Now maybe he'll crawl back under the Warrior and look for a crustacean to breed with.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway. The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.[/p][/quote]They don't like it up 'em Capt Mainwaring. Can't argue with price of the shares - it's all that matters. Now maybe he'll crawl back under the Warrior and look for a crustacean to breed with. jls217
  • Score: 2

8:36pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway.

The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.
That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.
Unfortunately our pet skate hasn't learned much from his manic desire to find something negative about our owner due to its experience with their numerous crooked owners - including the current lot. 'Authorised' and 'Issued' share capital are indeed a couple of the numbers required on the annual return to CH, along with details of directors, shareholders etc, all part of the form filling required. My point on dividends remains the same. You can have different classes of shares A, B etc which can have different attributes such as dividends, voting rights and so on - but if you own 100% of all shares it makes no odds. Sometimes an owner will have a 'buy back' where the company buys some of its own shares back which can act like a one off dividend, KL had recently converted loans to equity (issuing more of the authorised share capital in 'payment' of the loan thereby capitalising the loan) so that would seem illogical to do as it's the exact opposite.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway. The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.[/p][/quote]That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately our pet skate hasn't learned much from his manic desire to find something negative about our owner due to its experience with their numerous crooked owners - including the current lot. 'Authorised' and 'Issued' share capital are indeed a couple of the numbers required on the annual return to CH, along with details of directors, shareholders etc, all part of the form filling required. My point on dividends remains the same. You can have different classes of shares A, B etc which can have different attributes such as dividends, voting rights and so on - but if you own 100% of all shares it makes no odds. Sometimes an owner will have a 'buy back' where the company buys some of its own shares back which can act like a one off dividend, KL had recently converted loans to equity (issuing more of the authorised share capital in 'payment' of the loan thereby capitalising the loan) so that would seem illogical to do as it's the exact opposite. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

8:40pm Fri 16 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway.

The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.
That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.
What does the £5,141,000 figure represent? That is a fantasy figure and has no relevance. You are still talking about managing to pay creditors £8.8 million over four years. Some of your figures were based on getting promoted to Division One, that didn't happen. Nobody with shares gets a penny out of the issue and the shareholders money has no safeguard as it is exempt from the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, if it goes belly up, there is no come back. I applaud the efforts of those that dug deep to rescue the Club, but as your sign on suggests, you are skating on thin ice.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway. The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.[/p][/quote]That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.[/p][/quote]What does the £5,141,000 figure represent? That is a fantasy figure and has no relevance. You are still talking about managing to pay creditors £8.8 million over four years. Some of your figures were based on getting promoted to Division One, that didn't happen. Nobody with shares gets a penny out of the issue and the shareholders money has no safeguard as it is exempt from the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, if it goes belly up, there is no come back. I applaud the efforts of those that dug deep to rescue the Club, but as your sign on suggests, you are skating on thin ice. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

8:47pm Fri 16 May 14

saint phil says...

l think its a touch of DELUSION of GRANDEUR, one swallow does not make a summer,MP.
l think its a touch of DELUSION of GRANDEUR, one swallow does not make a summer,MP. saint phil
  • Score: -4

8:50pm Fri 16 May 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway.

The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.
That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.
What does the £5,141,000 figure represent? That is a fantasy figure and has no relevance. You are still talking about managing to pay creditors £8.8 million over four years. Some of your figures were based on getting promoted to Division One, that didn't happen. Nobody with shares gets a penny out of the issue and the shareholders money has no safeguard as it is exempt from the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, if it goes belly up, there is no come back. I applaud the efforts of those that dug deep to rescue the Club, but as your sign on suggests, you are skating on thin ice.
Deliciously, formally cruel and so richly deserved. No pun intended.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway. The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.[/p][/quote]That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.[/p][/quote]What does the £5,141,000 figure represent? That is a fantasy figure and has no relevance. You are still talking about managing to pay creditors £8.8 million over four years. Some of your figures were based on getting promoted to Division One, that didn't happen. Nobody with shares gets a penny out of the issue and the shareholders money has no safeguard as it is exempt from the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, if it goes belly up, there is no come back. I applaud the efforts of those that dug deep to rescue the Club, but as your sign on suggests, you are skating on thin ice.[/p][/quote]Deliciously, formally cruel and so richly deserved. No pun intended. jls217
  • Score: 2

8:53pm Fri 16 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway.

The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.
That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.
What does the £5,141,000 figure represent? That is a fantasy figure and has no relevance. You are still talking about managing to pay creditors £8.8 million over four years. Some of your figures were based on getting promoted to Division One, that didn't happen. Nobody with shares gets a penny out of the issue and the shareholders money has no safeguard as it is exempt from the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, if it goes belly up, there is no come back. I applaud the efforts of those that dug deep to rescue the Club, but as your sign on suggests, you are skating on thin ice.
The shares in our reconstructed Club can be bought for £1000 each, each one that is bought expands the capital base, and 5141 have been bought (1 of them is mine). That is what the numbers mean. If you don't understand the difference between "issued share capital" price and "current market" price, then don't waste everybody's time posting messages on here. What is the "current market price" of your club's shares?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway. The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.[/p][/quote]That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.[/p][/quote]What does the £5,141,000 figure represent? That is a fantasy figure and has no relevance. You are still talking about managing to pay creditors £8.8 million over four years. Some of your figures were based on getting promoted to Division One, that didn't happen. Nobody with shares gets a penny out of the issue and the shareholders money has no safeguard as it is exempt from the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, if it goes belly up, there is no come back. I applaud the efforts of those that dug deep to rescue the Club, but as your sign on suggests, you are skating on thin ice.[/p][/quote]The shares in our reconstructed Club can be bought for £1000 each, each one that is bought expands the capital base, and 5141 have been bought (1 of them is mine). That is what the numbers mean. If you don't understand the difference between "issued share capital" price and "current market" price, then don't waste everybody's time posting messages on here. What is the "current market price" of your club's shares? Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -7

8:58pm Fri 16 May 14

redsnapper says...

It's tragiic how bad this paper is. Just scrolling thru the headlines this week underline how anti Saints , Leitch and his team are, All they do is Google Saints and copy whatever has been written elsewhere.

They obviously have no inside track into SO 14 ..

and worse still , they are so bad at their trade that there is little chance of them moving up and joining a national so all we can expect is more of the same which is uninformed rumours cut and pasted from the national rags.

Lazy journalism at its worst.
It's tragiic how bad this paper is. Just scrolling thru the headlines this week underline how anti Saints , Leitch and his team are, All they do is Google Saints and copy whatever has been written elsewhere. They obviously have no inside track into SO 14 .. and worse still , they are so bad at their trade that there is little chance of them moving up and joining a national so all we can expect is more of the same which is uninformed rumours cut and pasted from the national rags. Lazy journalism at its worst. redsnapper
  • Score: 8

9:02pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway.

The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.
That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.
What does the £5,141,000 figure represent? That is a fantasy figure and has no relevance. You are still talking about managing to pay creditors £8.8 million over four years. Some of your figures were based on getting promoted to Division One, that didn't happen. Nobody with shares gets a penny out of the issue and the shareholders money has no safeguard as it is exempt from the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, if it goes belly up, there is no come back. I applaud the efforts of those that dug deep to rescue the Club, but as your sign on suggests, you are skating on thin ice.
The shares in our reconstructed Club can be bought for £1000 each, each one that is bought expands the capital base, and 5141 have been bought (1 of them is mine). That is what the numbers mean. If you don't understand the difference between "issued share capital" price and "current market" price, then don't waste everybody's time posting messages on here. What is the "current market price" of your club's shares?
Neither of our clubs are quoted on the stock exchange so the 'market price' is purely what someone is prepared to pay for the shares. In our case about £150m in yours about 50p.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]It's drivel Ospers. Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway. The fact the skates have more issued share capital means diddly squat, same as their ancient history. It is the current value of the business divided by the number of shares that determines the individual share value and ours is very high and theirs is virtually worthless.[/p][/quote]That's drivel Ospers. If "Reducing issued share capital doesn't affect the distribution of any dividend declared when you own 100% of the issued shares as all the dividend will go to you anyway", why did she take the trouble to do it? If "issued share capital means diddly squat", why is it one of the key legal criteria in the documentation requirements at Companies House? Seedyhouse is fantasising as usual.[/p][/quote]What does the £5,141,000 figure represent? That is a fantasy figure and has no relevance. You are still talking about managing to pay creditors £8.8 million over four years. Some of your figures were based on getting promoted to Division One, that didn't happen. Nobody with shares gets a penny out of the issue and the shareholders money has no safeguard as it is exempt from the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, if it goes belly up, there is no come back. I applaud the efforts of those that dug deep to rescue the Club, but as your sign on suggests, you are skating on thin ice.[/p][/quote]The shares in our reconstructed Club can be bought for £1000 each, each one that is bought expands the capital base, and 5141 have been bought (1 of them is mine). That is what the numbers mean. If you don't understand the difference between "issued share capital" price and "current market" price, then don't waste everybody's time posting messages on here. What is the "current market price" of your club's shares?[/p][/quote]Neither of our clubs are quoted on the stock exchange so the 'market price' is purely what someone is prepared to pay for the shares. In our case about £150m in yours about 50p. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

9:05pm Fri 16 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC.

Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation.
SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club.

That will add 10 points a season.

Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB.

Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup.

We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions.

NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.
Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%.

It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.
Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches.

Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there..

Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League.

I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable.

Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League.

This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.
Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip.

When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.
Fain One - not sure how it will all work out - but with the England Crowd you can't go far wrong - they know how to have a good time and it is equally as good as supporting the Saints.

Not sure about getting on line out there - but in the hotels there must be a decent connection.

I predict Ads will shine in Brazil and Rickie will deliver his usual good service - it may go down to penalties and SRL will never let you down. - Luke Shaw will provide a few telling crosses and all will make the City of Southampton and its Supporters proud.

It is a good time to be a Saints Fan.
I'm jealous. Went to the later stages of Italia 90 and did the whole of Portugal 04 and Germany 06 in a camper van. Amazing fun. Enjoy.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC. Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation. SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club. That will add 10 points a season. Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB. Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup. We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions. NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.[/p][/quote]Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%. It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.[/p][/quote]Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches. Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there.. Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League. I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable. Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League. This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.[/p][/quote]Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip. When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.[/p][/quote]Fain One - not sure how it will all work out - but with the England Crowd you can't go far wrong - they know how to have a good time and it is equally as good as supporting the Saints. Not sure about getting on line out there - but in the hotels there must be a decent connection. I predict Ads will shine in Brazil and Rickie will deliver his usual good service - it may go down to penalties and SRL will never let you down. - Luke Shaw will provide a few telling crosses and all will make the City of Southampton and its Supporters proud. It is a good time to be a Saints Fan.[/p][/quote]I'm jealous. Went to the later stages of Italia 90 and did the whole of Portugal 04 and Germany 06 in a camper van. Amazing fun. Enjoy. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

10:17pm Fri 16 May 14

batesieboy says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC.

Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation.
SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club.

That will add 10 points a season.

Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB.

Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup.

We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions.

NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.
Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%.

It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.
Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches.

Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there..

Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League.

I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable.

Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League.

This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.
Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip.

When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.
You'd probably love it.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC. Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation. SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club. That will add 10 points a season. Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB. Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup. We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions. NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.[/p][/quote]Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%. It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.[/p][/quote]Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches. Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there.. Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League. I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable. Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League. This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.[/p][/quote]Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip. When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.[/p][/quote]You'd probably love it. batesieboy
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Fri 16 May 14

Totally Oblivious says...

Just a thought. If MoPo were to leave for another club whilst still under contract for another year, and against the board's wishes, is there anything stopping them inserting in his termination documents that no Saints player will be allowed to join him at any new club for at least one season? That might at least deter Spurs and their sneaky chairman, or possibly other clubs for that matter- expect Liverpool would like the suggestion at present!
We all know that managers often raid their ex clubs for favourite players.
Just a thought.........
Just a thought. If MoPo were to leave for another club whilst still under contract for another year, and against the board's wishes, is there anything stopping them inserting in his termination documents that no Saints player will be allowed to join him at any new club for at least one season? That might at least deter Spurs and their sneaky chairman, or possibly other clubs for that matter- expect Liverpool would like the suggestion at present! We all know that managers often raid their ex clubs for favourite players. Just a thought......... Totally Oblivious
  • Score: -1

10:57pm Fri 16 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

batesieboy wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC.

Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation.
SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club.

That will add 10 points a season.

Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB.

Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup.

We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions.

NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.
Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%.

It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.
Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches.

Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there..

Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League.

I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable.

Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League.

This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.
Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip.

When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.
You'd probably love it.
Allegedly! :-)
[quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: We all like MP and his brand of football. we woud like hin to stay and continue future success with SFC. Mp must secure funds to get a cutting edge so that Rickie and Adam assists result in goals. With all our possession we make plenty of chances. That is the Number One Priority and sorting the Dani situation. SFC must spend to increase our goal tally. If we dig deep - there is the potential for plenty of reward for this Club. That will add 10 points a season. Gettining in a Goalie to challenge Artur will add to our points tally - maybe another 6-9 points a season with another CB. Beefing up our squad means progression in the League and will also help progress in the Cup. We must keep our Top Players and set out our 5 year Plan of winning the League and Premiership Crown with a Wembley Appearance with the aim of winning the FA Cup or League Cup. We must always be progressively competitive in the Cup competitions. NC started the process ..... and in May 2014 the reality check is that the Fans - the Players and the Board have plenty of Ambition.[/p][/quote]Like! Very logical, very well reasoned, very true, I agree 100%. It's Friday, it's beer o'clock, stop being so sensible, pop round - your reality check is cooling in my fridge.[/p][/quote]Maybe not so sensible Strassie - I am heading over to Brazil with RA1 (who is really into supporting England) and a few of the Southampton lads and hardcore - so I will post how I get on. Main reason is to combine supporting the Southampton Players with having a laugh and I believe Brazil has some amazing women and beaches. Agree it is beer o clock so smashed out a few Peroni in town before hitting For Your eyes Only later in the evening. Be surprised who you see in there.. Really hope the Board come up with a combined vision they rewards the Manager - the Players - and funds progress in the League. I was at Everton and Spurs Home and Away this Season and they are beatable. Seed strikes me as a bit of an Accountant / Economist - if we can get the finances right - then this Club can progress to the big time. 30 Mill on a proven Striker with evidence of a proven Strike Rate in Europe is value - sure we want Jrod back - but we need to up the goals scored to be in with a realistic chance of winning the League. This is our time to really progress - we have a golden generation of Players.[/p][/quote]Brazil sounds like a blast! Maybe you could get Katharina to fund it as a 'talent spotting' trip. When I say 'talent spotting', I am, of course, referring to the football, not the women. Be careful with them, to use journo speak, it is widely reported that, according to sources close to Rio, some may not be as 'women' as they look on the outside ............. apparently.[/p][/quote]You'd probably love it.[/p][/quote]Allegedly! :-) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

11:07pm Fri 16 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
Just a word of warning there Ospers. The loud noise will probably be bits of the stand falling off. Don't bother watching the dross on the pitch. You should spend your time looking upwards in case a bit hits you.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]Just a word of warning there Ospers. The loud noise will probably be bits of the stand falling off. Don't bother watching the dross on the pitch. You should spend your time looking upwards in case a bit hits you. Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

11:34pm Fri 16 May 14

Rooflas says...

Poch has been offered £6m a year to remain at saints!
Poch has been offered £6m a year to remain at saints! Rooflas
  • Score: 4

11:43pm Fri 16 May 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

Liverpool have been told to ram it when it comes to money they are talking for LaLa. Southampton Football Club prefer paper to copper.
Liverpool have been told to ram it when it comes to money they are talking for LaLa. Southampton Football Club prefer paper to copper. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 3

12:18am Sat 17 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Rooflas wrote:
Poch has been offered £6m a year to remain at saints!
i saw that article as well but adam blackmore has been tweeting about it and has apparently asked someone near the club and was told no news imminent!

I suppose we are going to have to wait a bit more!
[quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: Poch has been offered £6m a year to remain at saints![/p][/quote]i saw that article as well but adam blackmore has been tweeting about it and has apparently asked someone near the club and was told no news imminent! I suppose we are going to have to wait a bit more! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

12:49am Sat 17 May 14

techsture says...

Total carnival. Poyet is coming the moment Levy gets Poch to sign.

Wheels within wheels.
Total carnival. Poyet is coming the moment Levy gets Poch to sign. Wheels within wheels. techsture
  • Score: -6

1:09am Sat 17 May 14

montecristosaint says...

If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.
If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left. montecristosaint
  • Score: -5

1:16am Sat 17 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

jls217 wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
jls217 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
The "Icarus of football clubs" - faruking priceless, why couldn't I think of that one. PMSL
And Saints are 9th in all clubs to send players to the World Cup. Skates are soooo jealous they come on to our site and show their very little fangs. It's laughable.
An important little set of fact here that the harbour bottom dwellers from the never to be entered end of the M27 have glossed over -
2 of the 3 going came through our youth setup.
The 3rd came to us from the lower division - some genius saw his potential.
It would have been four players going but for an unfortunate turn of fate leading to injury.
We have a couple of others going representing top flight countries too.

Now, my memory may not be 100% on this but didn't the amoebas buy all of their world cup players in on inflated prices and salaries which eventually bust them. (and wasn't the money used a little too close to the washing machine also?)
Only asking - not an accusation you understand.
I believe you are correct. As they say, "a fool and his money are soon parted."
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]The "Icarus of football clubs" - faruking priceless, why couldn't I think of that one. PMSL[/p][/quote]And Saints are 9th in all clubs to send players to the World Cup. Skates are soooo jealous they come on to our site and show their very little fangs. It's laughable.[/p][/quote]An important little set of fact here that the harbour bottom dwellers from the never to be entered end of the M27 have glossed over - 2 of the 3 going came through our youth setup. The 3rd came to us from the lower division - some genius saw his potential. It would have been four players going but for an unfortunate turn of fate leading to injury. We have a couple of others going representing top flight countries too. Now, my memory may not be 100% on this but didn't the amoebas buy all of their world cup players in on inflated prices and salaries which eventually bust them. (and wasn't the money used a little too close to the washing machine also?) Only asking - not an accusation you understand.[/p][/quote]I believe you are correct. As they say, "a fool and his money are soon parted." DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

2:05am Sat 17 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.
so if the rumours are true, and that's a big IF, you don't think that £57mill is enough of budget to keep MP at the club? how much do you think he would want?
£30mill is less than £33.8mill by a some margin? £3.8mill is some margin?
Osvaldo £12.8mill (+2mill euros in bonuses, some hope!)
Dejan £8.5mill
Wanyamama £12.5mill
total spend £33.8mll
and what is the significant margin between this rumoured £30mill and the £29.3mill that was spent in 2012?
Gaston £12mill (officially undisclosed)
J-Rod £7mill
Clyne £2mill
Mayuka £3.5mill
Yoshi £2mill
Gazzaniga £2mill
S. Davis £800k
Total £29.3mill
so again there isn't a lot of difference between the figures at all. unless you have one of those new fangled calculators that adds up different to mine!

why, again only rumours, is that a complete disaster? £57mill is only £6.1mill less than both previous summer windows!

no one knows why NC left, but as your a believer in rumours how about this, NC wanted to keep overall control of the club and didn't want to answer to anyone, KL wanted a seat on the board and wanted NC to stay but he decided not to. another rumour that has come from a reliable source, adam blackmore the commentator for solent, suggests that NC wanted to sack MP in Dec but was convinced not to by the senior players!
that would have been a disaster!
I know you like to look on the negative side of things n believe rumours but at least look up some facts before posting! £30mill is less, by some margin, than £29.3mill? I thought it was more by £700k or roughly a S. Davis!
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.[/p][/quote]so if the rumours are true, and that's a big IF, you don't think that £57mill is enough of budget to keep MP at the club? how much do you think he would want? £30mill is less than £33.8mill by a some margin? £3.8mill is some margin? Osvaldo £12.8mill (+2mill euros in bonuses, some hope!) Dejan £8.5mill Wanyamama £12.5mill total spend £33.8mll and what is the significant margin between this rumoured £30mill and the £29.3mill that was spent in 2012? Gaston £12mill (officially undisclosed) J-Rod £7mill Clyne £2mill Mayuka £3.5mill Yoshi £2mill Gazzaniga £2mill S. Davis £800k Total £29.3mill so again there isn't a lot of difference between the figures at all. unless you have one of those new fangled calculators that adds up different to mine! why, again only rumours, is that a complete disaster? £57mill is only £6.1mill less than both previous summer windows! no one knows why NC left, but as your a believer in rumours how about this, NC wanted to keep overall control of the club and didn't want to answer to anyone, KL wanted a seat on the board and wanted NC to stay but he decided not to. another rumour that has come from a reliable source, adam blackmore the commentator for solent, suggests that NC wanted to sack MP in Dec but was convinced not to by the senior players! that would have been a disaster! I know you like to look on the negative side of things n believe rumours but at least look up some facts before posting! £30mill is less, by some margin, than £29.3mill? I thought it was more by £700k or roughly a S. Davis! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

3:05am Sat 17 May 14

montecristosaint says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.
so if the rumours are true, and that's a big IF, you don't think that £57mill is enough of budget to keep MP at the club? how much do you think he would want?
£30mill is less than £33.8mill by a some margin? £3.8mill is some margin?
Osvaldo £12.8mill (+2mill euros in bonuses, some hope!)
Dejan £8.5mill
Wanyamama £12.5mill
total spend £33.8mll
and what is the significant margin between this rumoured £30mill and the £29.3mill that was spent in 2012?
Gaston £12mill (officially undisclosed)
J-Rod £7mill
Clyne £2mill
Mayuka £3.5mill
Yoshi £2mill
Gazzaniga £2mill
S. Davis £800k
Total £29.3mill
so again there isn't a lot of difference between the figures at all. unless you have one of those new fangled calculators that adds up different to mine!

why, again only rumours, is that a complete disaster? £57mill is only £6.1mill less than both previous summer windows!

no one knows why NC left, but as your a believer in rumours how about this, NC wanted to keep overall control of the club and didn't want to answer to anyone, KL wanted a seat on the board and wanted NC to stay but he decided not to. another rumour that has come from a reliable source, adam blackmore the commentator for solent, suggests that NC wanted to sack MP in Dec but was convinced not to by the senior players!
that would have been a disaster!
I know you like to look on the negative side of things n believe rumours but at least look up some facts before posting! £30mill is less, by some margin, than £29.3mill? I thought it was more by £700k or roughly a S. Davis!
You have missed my point perhaps I didnt make it well enough.Selling Shaw to fund aquistions is not an option in my book, it will only encourage others to think negatively and leave.This summer is about hanging on to your players, making a vital point to the Premiership that we are no longer a selling club and about kicking on and funding the purchase of more top quality players to boost numbers. I am not asking for the earth if the club at least matched spending in the previous two seasons it would be something in other words around 35 million a season for three uears.
The other point is that replacing Shaw like for like would be almost impossible added to which we would have sold him to the competition which is not what vproducing players from the academy is about for gods sake. What invest huge sums in academy training only to hand over the best we produce to United you have to be kidding me. The money we get is no compensation we produce players for our first team not to bolster the ranks of the opposition, get it straight.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.[/p][/quote]so if the rumours are true, and that's a big IF, you don't think that £57mill is enough of budget to keep MP at the club? how much do you think he would want? £30mill is less than £33.8mill by a some margin? £3.8mill is some margin? Osvaldo £12.8mill (+2mill euros in bonuses, some hope!) Dejan £8.5mill Wanyamama £12.5mill total spend £33.8mll and what is the significant margin between this rumoured £30mill and the £29.3mill that was spent in 2012? Gaston £12mill (officially undisclosed) J-Rod £7mill Clyne £2mill Mayuka £3.5mill Yoshi £2mill Gazzaniga £2mill S. Davis £800k Total £29.3mill so again there isn't a lot of difference between the figures at all. unless you have one of those new fangled calculators that adds up different to mine! why, again only rumours, is that a complete disaster? £57mill is only £6.1mill less than both previous summer windows! no one knows why NC left, but as your a believer in rumours how about this, NC wanted to keep overall control of the club and didn't want to answer to anyone, KL wanted a seat on the board and wanted NC to stay but he decided not to. another rumour that has come from a reliable source, adam blackmore the commentator for solent, suggests that NC wanted to sack MP in Dec but was convinced not to by the senior players! that would have been a disaster! I know you like to look on the negative side of things n believe rumours but at least look up some facts before posting! £30mill is less, by some margin, than £29.3mill? I thought it was more by £700k or roughly a S. Davis![/p][/quote]You have missed my point perhaps I didnt make it well enough.Selling Shaw to fund aquistions is not an option in my book, it will only encourage others to think negatively and leave.This summer is about hanging on to your players, making a vital point to the Premiership that we are no longer a selling club and about kicking on and funding the purchase of more top quality players to boost numbers. I am not asking for the earth if the club at least matched spending in the previous two seasons it would be something in other words around 35 million a season for three uears. The other point is that replacing Shaw like for like would be almost impossible added to which we would have sold him to the competition which is not what vproducing players from the academy is about for gods sake. What invest huge sums in academy training only to hand over the best we produce to United you have to be kidding me. The money we get is no compensation we produce players for our first team not to bolster the ranks of the opposition, get it straight. montecristosaint
  • Score: 0

4:58am Sat 17 May 14

C.R.R.A says...

Clubs becoming a bloody joke.
Clubs becoming a bloody joke. C.R.R.A
  • Score: -7

6:42am Sat 17 May 14

justaSaintsfan says...

C.R.R.A wrote:
Clubs becoming a bloody joke.
The real joke is all the rubbish constantly being trotted out by the media. They know absolutely nothing factual because no official word has yet come from Saints. It is hilarious that so many people are daily believing so much media bull manure. The media do not actually have anything factual to report, so they continue inventing their same old nonsense day after day. All the figures being quoted about money Saints might have available for transfers are meaningless, as the figures do not come from the club. I'm not gullible, so do not believe any of that media hot air.

Southampton FC is still going about its business in its usual, professional, private way. Nobody will be told anything until after deals are done. That is the way it should be.

There seems to be a concerted media effort to unsettle Southampton FC, it's best players and Mauricio Pochettino. Much of it has been going on since Nicola Cortese resigned and Katharina installed a new board of directors. The club is NOT unsettled, the players are happy at Southampton FC and Mauricio has stated that he wants to discuss with the board the club's new project and staying as manager beyond summer next year. Those discussions are happening!

I do not see what all the fuss is about. Our manager and best players are all still at Saints and the club has been settled for months. The club is going about its business as normal. Our manager and best players are coveted by other clubs because they have played so much good football. That is something to celebrate. I want our best players to be wanted by other clubs all the time because that will mean continuing good football being played. I could get used to it, no problem! There are no problems at Southampton FC.
[quote][p][bold]C.R.R.A[/bold] wrote: Clubs becoming a bloody joke.[/p][/quote]The real joke is all the rubbish constantly being trotted out by the media. They know absolutely nothing factual because no official word has yet come from Saints. It is hilarious that so many people are daily believing so much media bull manure. The media do not actually have anything factual to report, so they continue inventing their same old nonsense day after day. All the figures being quoted about money Saints might have available for transfers are meaningless, as the figures do not come from the club. I'm not gullible, so do not believe any of that media hot air. Southampton FC is still going about its business in its usual, professional, private way. Nobody will be told anything until after deals are done. That is the way it should be. There seems to be a concerted media effort to unsettle Southampton FC, it's best players and Mauricio Pochettino. Much of it has been going on since Nicola Cortese resigned and Katharina installed a new board of directors. The club is NOT unsettled, the players are happy at Southampton FC and Mauricio has stated that he wants to discuss with the board the club's new project and staying as manager beyond summer next year. Those discussions are happening! I do not see what all the fuss is about. Our manager and best players are all still at Saints and the club has been settled for months. The club is going about its business as normal. Our manager and best players are coveted by other clubs because they have played so much good football. That is something to celebrate. I want our best players to be wanted by other clubs all the time because that will mean continuing good football being played. I could get used to it, no problem! There are no problems at Southampton FC. justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 8

9:03am Sat 17 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

C.R.R.A wrote:
Clubs becoming a bloody joke.
I can't see any humour in the situation.
[quote][p][bold]C.R.R.A[/bold] wrote: Clubs becoming a bloody joke.[/p][/quote]I can't see any humour in the situation. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:10am Sat 17 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?
I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there.

How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.
Just a word of warning there Ospers. The loud noise will probably be bits of the stand falling off. Don't bother watching the dross on the pitch. You should spend your time looking upwards in case a bit hits you.
I am used to things hitting me! I haven't got any enthusiasm about going to Nottarf Krap, now, or in the future, so it isn't an invitation that I would take up anyhow. Thanks, but no thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]That is as clear as mud to me can you explain precisely what these figures represent?[/p][/quote]I'm sure that Seedyhouse can oblige there. How are you Osprey? My offer of a pint in the Shepherd's Crook and a guest seat in the Fratton End (though you won't like the loud noise) is still open.[/p][/quote]Just a word of warning there Ospers. The loud noise will probably be bits of the stand falling off. Don't bother watching the dross on the pitch. You should spend your time looking upwards in case a bit hits you.[/p][/quote]I am used to things hitting me! I haven't got any enthusiasm about going to Nottarf Krap, now, or in the future, so it isn't an invitation that I would take up anyhow. Thanks, but no thanks. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:51am Sat 17 May 14

miltonarcher says...

If your club was the first and only premier lge club ever to go in administration. If your club was embroiled in financial fraud, signing players that couldn't be paid for. If your club stole from charities. If your club dropped to the brink of non league. If your club was 27th (and dropping) in the all time premier leage points table and your bitter rivals were 13th (and rising!) would you want to cast doubt on your mental state by attempting to suggest on here that Pfc are in any way superior to the premier league club just down the M27? Just asking.
If your club was the first and only premier lge club ever to go in administration. If your club was embroiled in financial fraud, signing players that couldn't be paid for. If your club stole from charities. If your club dropped to the brink of non league. If your club was 27th (and dropping) in the all time premier leage points table and your bitter rivals were 13th (and rising!) would you want to cast doubt on your mental state by attempting to suggest on here that Pfc are in any way superior to the premier league club just down the M27? Just asking. miltonarcher
  • Score: 4

10:53am Sat 17 May 14

jls217 says...

miltonarcher wrote:
If your club was the first and only premier lge club ever to go in administration. If your club was embroiled in financial fraud, signing players that couldn't be paid for. If your club stole from charities. If your club dropped to the brink of non league. If your club was 27th (and dropping) in the all time premier leage points table and your bitter rivals were 13th (and rising!) would you want to cast doubt on your mental state by attempting to suggest on here that Pfc are in any way superior to the premier league club just down the M27? Just asking.
Some might milton because as we have all learned over many years of living here they are a mite dim at the unspeakable end (where the immigration post should be) of the Queen's (Gawd bless 'er) Highway.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: If your club was the first and only premier lge club ever to go in administration. If your club was embroiled in financial fraud, signing players that couldn't be paid for. If your club stole from charities. If your club dropped to the brink of non league. If your club was 27th (and dropping) in the all time premier leage points table and your bitter rivals were 13th (and rising!) would you want to cast doubt on your mental state by attempting to suggest on here that Pfc are in any way superior to the premier league club just down the M27? Just asking.[/p][/quote]Some might milton because as we have all learned over many years of living here they are a mite dim at the unspeakable end (where the immigration post should be) of the Queen's (Gawd bless 'er) Highway. jls217
  • Score: 0

10:56am Sat 17 May 14

jls217 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.
so if the rumours are true, and that's a big IF, you don't think that £57mill is enough of budget to keep MP at the club? how much do you think he would want?
£30mill is less than £33.8mill by a some margin? £3.8mill is some margin?
Osvaldo £12.8mill (+2mill euros in bonuses, some hope!)
Dejan £8.5mill
Wanyamama £12.5mill
total spend £33.8mll
and what is the significant margin between this rumoured £30mill and the £29.3mill that was spent in 2012?
Gaston £12mill (officially undisclosed)
J-Rod £7mill
Clyne £2mill
Mayuka £3.5mill
Yoshi £2mill
Gazzaniga £2mill
S. Davis £800k
Total £29.3mill
so again there isn't a lot of difference between the figures at all. unless you have one of those new fangled calculators that adds up different to mine!

why, again only rumours, is that a complete disaster? £57mill is only £6.1mill less than both previous summer windows!

no one knows why NC left, but as your a believer in rumours how about this, NC wanted to keep overall control of the club and didn't want to answer to anyone, KL wanted a seat on the board and wanted NC to stay but he decided not to. another rumour that has come from a reliable source, adam blackmore the commentator for solent, suggests that NC wanted to sack MP in Dec but was convinced not to by the senior players!
that would have been a disaster!
I know you like to look on the negative side of things n believe rumours but at least look up some facts before posting! £30mill is less, by some margin, than £29.3mill? I thought it was more by £700k or roughly a S. Davis!
You have missed my point perhaps I didnt make it well enough.Selling Shaw to fund aquistions is not an option in my book, it will only encourage others to think negatively and leave.This summer is about hanging on to your players, making a vital point to the Premiership that we are no longer a selling club and about kicking on and funding the purchase of more top quality players to boost numbers. I am not asking for the earth if the club at least matched spending in the previous two seasons it would be something in other words around 35 million a season for three uears.
The other point is that replacing Shaw like for like would be almost impossible added to which we would have sold him to the competition which is not what vproducing players from the academy is about for gods sake. What invest huge sums in academy training only to hand over the best we produce to United you have to be kidding me. The money we get is no compensation we produce players for our first team not to bolster the ranks of the opposition, get it straight.
Who get's the blame now that Fox has gone and Guly is probably going?
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.[/p][/quote]so if the rumours are true, and that's a big IF, you don't think that £57mill is enough of budget to keep MP at the club? how much do you think he would want? £30mill is less than £33.8mill by a some margin? £3.8mill is some margin? Osvaldo £12.8mill (+2mill euros in bonuses, some hope!) Dejan £8.5mill Wanyamama £12.5mill total spend £33.8mll and what is the significant margin between this rumoured £30mill and the £29.3mill that was spent in 2012? Gaston £12mill (officially undisclosed) J-Rod £7mill Clyne £2mill Mayuka £3.5mill Yoshi £2mill Gazzaniga £2mill S. Davis £800k Total £29.3mill so again there isn't a lot of difference between the figures at all. unless you have one of those new fangled calculators that adds up different to mine! why, again only rumours, is that a complete disaster? £57mill is only £6.1mill less than both previous summer windows! no one knows why NC left, but as your a believer in rumours how about this, NC wanted to keep overall control of the club and didn't want to answer to anyone, KL wanted a seat on the board and wanted NC to stay but he decided not to. another rumour that has come from a reliable source, adam blackmore the commentator for solent, suggests that NC wanted to sack MP in Dec but was convinced not to by the senior players! that would have been a disaster! I know you like to look on the negative side of things n believe rumours but at least look up some facts before posting! £30mill is less, by some margin, than £29.3mill? I thought it was more by £700k or roughly a S. Davis![/p][/quote]You have missed my point perhaps I didnt make it well enough.Selling Shaw to fund aquistions is not an option in my book, it will only encourage others to think negatively and leave.This summer is about hanging on to your players, making a vital point to the Premiership that we are no longer a selling club and about kicking on and funding the purchase of more top quality players to boost numbers. I am not asking for the earth if the club at least matched spending in the previous two seasons it would be something in other words around 35 million a season for three uears. The other point is that replacing Shaw like for like would be almost impossible added to which we would have sold him to the competition which is not what vproducing players from the academy is about for gods sake. What invest huge sums in academy training only to hand over the best we produce to United you have to be kidding me. The money we get is no compensation we produce players for our first team not to bolster the ranks of the opposition, get it straight.[/p][/quote]Who get's the blame now that Fox has gone and Guly is probably going? jls217
  • Score: 0

11:26am Sat 17 May 14

miltonnroad76 says...

Heres one for the skates who love their meaningless old facts...when was the last time poopey had 3 players in an england world cup squad? ..was it A 1950s B 1960s C friggin never. Answers to -grasping at straws@sour grapes.com
Heres one for the skates who love their meaningless old facts...when was the last time poopey had 3 players in an england world cup squad? ..was it A 1950s B 1960s C friggin never. Answers to -grasping at straws@sour grapes.com miltonnroad76
  • Score: 3

12:19pm Sat 17 May 14

warrens 76 says...

PTID1898 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
Every player is for sale at a price that's why they sign long contracts so the club is garunteed money upon sale it's not because they are pledging their future to the club. They will go as they want to play for bigger and better clubs because you will not finish higher than 8th next season your manger has already said he cannot take the team any further, you are just the same as spurs and Newcastle you think you have a given right to play in Europe but all three clubs are just not good enough and never will be .. And as for your players in the World Cup they will not make a blind bit of difference as we wil not get out of the group and you have only three players at the World Cup we had four and when we finished 8th in the prem we had 57 points you only had 56 so that's another one up on you never mind !!!!PUP
How much did that extra point cost you….let me think…EVERYTHING.
[quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Every player is for sale at a price that's why they sign long contracts so the club is garunteed money upon sale it's not because they are pledging their future to the club. They will go as they want to play for bigger and better clubs because you will not finish higher than 8th next season your manger has already said he cannot take the team any further, you are just the same as spurs and Newcastle you think you have a given right to play in Europe but all three clubs are just not good enough and never will be .. And as for your players in the World Cup they will not make a blind bit of difference as we wil not get out of the group and you have only three players at the World Cup we had four and when we finished 8th in the prem we had 57 points you only had 56 so that's another one up on you never mind !!!!PUP[/p][/quote]How much did that extra point cost you….let me think…EVERYTHING. warrens 76
  • Score: 1

4:28pm Sat 17 May 14

jls217 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
PTID1898 wrote:
It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club
, manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP
sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day.
PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if!
the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive!
our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale!
you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs.
we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never.
WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!!
Every player is for sale at a price that's why they sign long contracts so the club is garunteed money upon sale it's not because they are pledging their future to the club. They will go as they want to play for bigger and better clubs because you will not finish higher than 8th next season your manger has already said he cannot take the team any further, you are just the same as spurs and Newcastle you think you have a given right to play in Europe but all three clubs are just not good enough and never will be .. And as for your players in the World Cup they will not make a blind bit of difference as we wil not get out of the group and you have only three players at the World Cup we had four and when we finished 8th in the prem we had 57 points you only had 56 so that's another one up on you never mind !!!!PUP
How much did that extra point cost you….let me think…EVERYTHING.
OOOOOOOOOOH! That made me wince. Does this poor gent have Aspbergers or an equivalent condition 'cos he just doesn't seem to get it does he.
PTID - Stay off here mate, really - I am feeling for you. You're not only not welcome here you're going to get shredded every time you put an opinion down. Please do you self a favour, tell your social worker or doctor what you're doing and stop sacrificing your dignity. I'm advising out of kindness, I don't wish you any harm at all.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PTID1898[/bold] wrote: It's going to be a brilliant summer watching and reading about your troubled club , manager departing, the lama and shaw departing lambert off to west ham to preserve his England future all be it not a long one and then the club getting relegated , so funny it's better than eastenders. PUP[/p][/quote]sorry STRAS but jls217`s post was top notch but I think this gem from PTID is the best of the day. PTID it is going to be a brilliant summer, that is about all you got right. its going to be brilliant watching all those saints players plying their trade in the World Cup! how many poopey players have been picked? HA HA HA as if! the `troubled club` of the south coast is yours my fishy friend. are you ready for another season of flirting with relegation from he football league and probable oblivion? its so funny watching your little club sack manager after manager in a vain attempt to just survive! our clubs players and manager are the envy of the prem league and so there will be rumour after rumour from the media who are trying to sell our players, but as our board have said several times, they are not for sale! you see we aren't a little club trying to beg steal and borrow our way to get into and stay in the prem, we have proper backing and finances behind us. not dodgy dealers and non-existent sheikhs. we have been laughing our heads off at the way your club has fallen back to its rightful place over the last few years. you are the Icarus of football clubs, whats it like to be in the shadow of a properly run club? are you not embarrassed every time you walk into the cowshed and see the state of it? its crumbling away in front of your eyes and with no money to fix it. there are clubs in the conference with better stadiums than you. and to top it all you now know that in a couple of years you could be playing our `B` team in a league game, that must really hurt, don't worry it will hurt more when our `B` team beat your first team. oh well at least you can comfort yourself by going to look at your cup collection, you know the one you won when there was a war and the other one you brought on the never never. WTFILN!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Every player is for sale at a price that's why they sign long contracts so the club is garunteed money upon sale it's not because they are pledging their future to the club. They will go as they want to play for bigger and better clubs because you will not finish higher than 8th next season your manger has already said he cannot take the team any further, you are just the same as spurs and Newcastle you think you have a given right to play in Europe but all three clubs are just not good enough and never will be .. And as for your players in the World Cup they will not make a blind bit of difference as we wil not get out of the group and you have only three players at the World Cup we had four and when we finished 8th in the prem we had 57 points you only had 56 so that's another one up on you never mind !!!!PUP[/p][/quote]How much did that extra point cost you….let me think…EVERYTHING.[/p][/quote]OOOOOOOOOOH! That made me wince. Does this poor gent have Aspbergers or an equivalent condition 'cos he just doesn't seem to get it does he. PTID - Stay off here mate, really - I am feeling for you. You're not only not welcome here you're going to get shredded every time you put an opinion down. Please do you self a favour, tell your social worker or doctor what you're doing and stop sacrificing your dignity. I'm advising out of kindness, I don't wish you any harm at all. jls217
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Sat 17 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jls217 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.
so if the rumours are true, and that's a big IF, you don't think that £57mill is enough of budget to keep MP at the club? how much do you think he would want?
£30mill is less than £33.8mill by a some margin? £3.8mill is some margin?
Osvaldo £12.8mill (+2mill euros in bonuses, some hope!)
Dejan £8.5mill
Wanyamama £12.5mill
total spend £33.8mll
and what is the significant margin between this rumoured £30mill and the £29.3mill that was spent in 2012?
Gaston £12mill (officially undisclosed)
J-Rod £7mill
Clyne £2mill
Mayuka £3.5mill
Yoshi £2mill
Gazzaniga £2mill
S. Davis £800k
Total £29.3mill
so again there isn't a lot of difference between the figures at all. unless you have one of those new fangled calculators that adds up different to mine!

why, again only rumours, is that a complete disaster? £57mill is only £6.1mill less than both previous summer windows!

no one knows why NC left, but as your a believer in rumours how about this, NC wanted to keep overall control of the club and didn't want to answer to anyone, KL wanted a seat on the board and wanted NC to stay but he decided not to. another rumour that has come from a reliable source, adam blackmore the commentator for solent, suggests that NC wanted to sack MP in Dec but was convinced not to by the senior players!
that would have been a disaster!
I know you like to look on the negative side of things n believe rumours but at least look up some facts before posting! £30mill is less, by some margin, than £29.3mill? I thought it was more by £700k or roughly a S. Davis!
You have missed my point perhaps I didnt make it well enough.Selling Shaw to fund aquistions is not an option in my book, it will only encourage others to think negatively and leave.This summer is about hanging on to your players, making a vital point to the Premiership that we are no longer a selling club and about kicking on and funding the purchase of more top quality players to boost numbers. I am not asking for the earth if the club at least matched spending in the previous two seasons it would be something in other words around 35 million a season for three uears.
The other point is that replacing Shaw like for like would be almost impossible added to which we would have sold him to the competition which is not what vproducing players from the academy is about for gods sake. What invest huge sums in academy training only to hand over the best we produce to United you have to be kidding me. The money we get is no compensation we produce players for our first team not to bolster the ranks of the opposition, get it straight.
Who get's the blame now that Fox has gone and Guly is probably going?
Guly has gone, Hoover is stepping up to the plate. Les Reed will, no doubt be getting plenty of stick.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: If tonights report in the Express is true the board are not prepared to make more than £30 million available for transfer aquisitions which is less than in each of the last two years by some margin. They are also prepared to sell Shaw for 27 million and make the money available to Poch for transfers.I dont believe this will persuade Poch to stay of our players to stay either. A complete disaster if this is true. No wonder Cortese left.[/p][/quote]so if the rumours are true, and that's a big IF, you don't think that £57mill is enough of budget to keep MP at the club? how much do you think he would want? £30mill is less than £33.8mill by a some margin? £3.8mill is some margin? Osvaldo £12.8mill (+2mill euros in bonuses, some hope!) Dejan £8.5mill Wanyamama £12.5mill total spend £33.8mll and what is the significant margin between this rumoured £30mill and the £29.3mill that was spent in 2012? Gaston £12mill (officially undisclosed) J-Rod £7mill Clyne £2mill Mayuka £3.5mill Yoshi £2mill Gazzaniga £2mill S. Davis £800k Total £29.3mill so again there isn't a lot of difference between the figures at all. unless you have one of those new fangled calculators that adds up different to mine! why, again only rumours, is that a complete disaster? £57mill is only £6.1mill less than both previous summer windows! no one knows why NC left, but as your a believer in rumours how about this, NC wanted to keep overall control of the club and didn't want to answer to anyone, KL wanted a seat on the board and wanted NC to stay but he decided not to. another rumour that has come from a reliable source, adam blackmore the commentator for solent, suggests that NC wanted to sack MP in Dec but was convinced not to by the senior players! that would have been a disaster! I know you like to look on the negative side of things n believe rumours but at least look up some facts before posting! £30mill is less, by some margin, than £29.3mill? I thought it was more by £700k or roughly a S. Davis![/p][/quote]You have missed my point perhaps I didnt make it well enough.Selling Shaw to fund aquistions is not an option in my book, it will only encourage others to think negatively and leave.This summer is about hanging on to your players, making a vital point to the Premiership that we are no longer a selling club and about kicking on and funding the purchase of more top quality players to boost numbers. I am not asking for the earth if the club at least matched spending in the previous two seasons it would be something in other words around 35 million a season for three uears. The other point is that replacing Shaw like for like would be almost impossible added to which we would have sold him to the competition which is not what vproducing players from the academy is about for gods sake. What invest huge sums in academy training only to hand over the best we produce to United you have to be kidding me. The money we get is no compensation we produce players for our first team not to bolster the ranks of the opposition, get it straight.[/p][/quote]Who get's the blame now that Fox has gone and Guly is probably going?[/p][/quote]Guly has gone, Hoover is stepping up to the plate. Les Reed will, no doubt be getting plenty of stick. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Sat 17 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Hull 1 up chortle.
Hull 1 up chortle. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

5:08pm Sat 17 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Hull 2 up Chester and Davies
Hull 2 up Chester and Davies OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

6:46pm Sat 17 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 2 at Wembley, a good game, I am sure we could have made it better!
2 2 at Wembley, a good game, I am sure we could have made it better! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

8:37pm Sat 17 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Finished 3 2 to the Arsenal, at least we will be free of Wenger hasn't won anything articles for a while.
Finished 3 2 to the Arsenal, at least we will be free of Wenger hasn't won anything articles for a while. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:04pm Sat 17 May 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.
yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone?
WTFILN
These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you.

Official documentation from Companies House:
Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000
Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000

As always, we are the bigger club.

Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.
So then let's just have a think about this.

What you are saying then, if these figures are to be believed, is the following:

(we'll talk in round figures since it's easier, plus you'll understand it better since your previous accountants didn't seem to worry about exact amounts either)

Southampton are in the Premier League and the share capital is just £50mil. This season we earned more than the share capital. £30million more. That's actually a really efficient investment and certainly one that any intelligent investor would want to get in on. I'm not sure about you but any return of over 100% on the amount invested is a staggering profit to my mind. Hell I'd be happy with a return of 2% on anything I ever invested!

So then let's look at your next figure. Portsmouth. Share capital £51 million. sitting in league 2. wow.....
So just remind me - all season long we've seen constant appeals for money from the board who allegedly 'saved the club'. you only managed to get away from the relegation zone in the last four or so matches by appointing someone who had previously been removed from the post for not having enough experience. You have, maybe, one player in the squad who might be worth something to someone else in League 2, the rest being made up of has beens, not good enoughs or mediocrity signed mostly on frees with ridiculously long contracts. What did you get for finishing the season in the bottom half of league 2? anyone know? wasn't exactly trumpeted from the roof tops was it. Speaks volumes that.
so you're sitting there with £51 million invested allegedly and yet THIS WEEK we see the fans trust ownership drop to 26%! This is not an attractive investment.

You my son need to go and buy yourself an abacus and look at the figures again. Not getting promotion this season was the worst possible result for you lot (even relegation would have been better).
you got £51 MILLION POUNDS sitting in a League TWO club with lots of debt still hanging around its ears! You're STILL PAYING the players who won you the FA cup! that's just laughable. One of your best players this season was apparently Whatmough. That's right - the lad who was directly responsible for at least THREE of the goals during the 7-0 spanking administered by our side in the Youth FA Cup. This is one of your best players.........

right moving on to your last point......
Katharina Liebherr goes to most games. she sits there with a big lovely grin plastered all over her faces. She even turned up to the Staff match. These are not the actions of someone wishing to asset strip the club. but that's fine - you keep on dreaming.
As for player sales - well.... it's football - players do move on. As Saints fans we really want to keep this great team together because it's been a great season and we want to build on it. but if any of them do go we'll get over it. But..... wait a minute! ALL of the stories and speculation is in the media! what do we actually know? Well.... we know that bids have been put in for Lallana and Shaw. That's it. And I'm even wondering about those since I don't recall Saints confirming this.
everything else you are hearing is rumour and conjecture made up by people trying to generate revenue by getting page clicks. We can all draw conclusions, it's just that the conclusion you will inevitably draw is the one that you hope is the worst possible result for Saints. And that my fishy friend speaks volumes about you as a person.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I see the HNW's, or 'Presidents' as they like to call themselves, now control PFC having diluted the Trust's shareholding. Shame the experiment with fan ownership has failed.[/p][/quote]yes the trusts share is now below 50%, not a fan owned club the despite what the chairmans been saying. the presidents will soon lose so much money at the club that they will want more and more shares, once the trusts share drops to 26% the `presidents` will have total control and will be selling to the one president who is making money, who is also a property developer! fratton tescos anyone? WTFILN[/p][/quote]These are the figures that the fantasists on StainsWeb won't tell you. Official documentation from Companies House: Portsmouth Community Football Club Limited: share capital £5141000 Southampton Football Club Limited: share capital £501000 As always, we are the bigger club. Remember the reason your owner carried out the share capital reduction last summer was so that she could pay herself dividends. For example from the sale of players. Looks like she has decided to take her profits by asset stripping the club, rather than selling it.[/p][/quote]So then let's just have a think about this. What you are saying then, if these figures are to be believed, is the following: (we'll talk in round figures since it's easier, plus you'll understand it better since your previous accountants didn't seem to worry about exact amounts either) Southampton are in the Premier League and the share capital is just £50mil. This season we earned more than the share capital. £30million more. That's actually a really efficient investment and certainly one that any intelligent investor would want to get in on. I'm not sure about you but any return of over 100% on the amount invested is a staggering profit to my mind. Hell I'd be happy with a return of 2% on anything I ever invested! So then let's look at your next figure. Portsmouth. Share capital £51 million. sitting in league 2. wow..... So just remind me - all season long we've seen constant appeals for money from the board who allegedly 'saved the club'. you only managed to get away from the relegation zone in the last four or so matches by appointing someone who had previously been removed from the post for not having enough experience. You have, maybe, one player in the squad who might be worth something to someone else in League 2, the rest being made up of has beens, not good enoughs or mediocrity signed mostly on frees with ridiculously long contracts. What did you get for finishing the season in the bottom half of league 2? anyone know? wasn't exactly trumpeted from the roof tops was it. Speaks volumes that. so you're sitting there with £51 million invested allegedly and yet THIS WEEK we see the fans trust ownership drop to 26%! This is not an attractive investment. You my son need to go and buy yourself an abacus and look at the figures again. Not getting promotion this season was the worst possible result for you lot (even relegation would have been better). you got £51 MILLION POUNDS sitting in a League TWO club with lots of debt still hanging around its ears! You're STILL PAYING the players who won you the FA cup! that's just laughable. One of your best players this season was apparently Whatmough. That's right - the lad who was directly responsible for at least THREE of the goals during the 7-0 spanking administered by our side in the Youth FA Cup. This is one of your best players......... right moving on to your last point...... Katharina Liebherr goes to most games. she sits there with a big lovely grin plastered all over her faces. She even turned up to the Staff match. These are not the actions of someone wishing to asset strip the club. but that's fine - you keep on dreaming. As for player sales - well.... it's football - players do move on. As Saints fans we really want to keep this great team together because it's been a great season and we want to build on it. but if any of them do go we'll get over it. But..... wait a minute! ALL of the stories and speculation is in the media! what do we actually know? Well.... we know that bids have been put in for Lallana and Shaw. That's it. And I'm even wondering about those since I don't recall Saints confirming this. everything else you are hearing is rumour and conjecture made up by people trying to generate revenue by getting page clicks. We can all draw conclusions, it's just that the conclusion you will inevitably draw is the one that you hope is the worst possible result for Saints. And that my fishy friend speaks volumes about you as a person. Stroppy_gramps
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