Pochettino: All my Saints players deserve an award - they have all been fantastic

Basingstoke Gazette: Mauricio Pochettino Mauricio Pochettino

Mauricio Pochettino wishes he had an arm full of awards to hand out tonight after what he described as a “fantastic season” for Saints.

The club officially celebrate their record equalling eighth place Premier League finish with a glittering black tie ceremony at St Mary’s this evening.

Adam Lallana and Jay Rodriguez are expected to battle it out for the major individual accolades such as Player of the Season and Player’s Player of the Season.

But Pochettino insists this campaign has built on far more than one or two individuals and would like to be able to recognise that.

“It’s been more than anything about the collective,” said Pochettino.

“All the players have had a fantastic season.

“Aside from one or two players given these accolades, awards should be given to the entire team because all the players have done very well throughout the season.

“The entire team deserves these awards.”

Saints equalled another record at the weekend with a seventh away top flight win of the campaign at Swansea.

They need just a point from their final game at home to Manchester United on Saturday to secure a highest top flight points total for 29 years.

Another clean sheet in the final game will also see Saints equal their Premier League record of only 45 goals conceded, a record set in 2003/04.

Despite all of that, and the chance for a little reflection and celebration at St Mary’s this evening, modern football dictates that thoughts are already turning towards next season.

Rumours continue to circulate as to the futures of manager Pochettino and some of his prize assets such as Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana and Dejan Lovren.

The ambition of the club to push forward is likely to be the deciding factor in some of that, with Pochettino and director Les Reed both having said publicly that the close season will be the time to have these discussions.

It is not until then that Pochettino will start to set targets for the next campaign.

“It’s clear that we’ve had a fantastic season,” said Pochettino.

“We have a lot of young players that are still growing, still maturing, and they need to get more and more experience.

“It’s also clear that we are playing in the Premier League, which is probably the toughest competition in the world.

“Once we realise how tough it is, which we know already, then we can set ourselves proper goals.”

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8:23am Tue 6 May 14

Zens_Saint says...

Maybe informing people they can watch it live on YouTube for the first time might be a good idea?

COYR
Maybe informing people they can watch it live on YouTube for the first time might be a good idea? COYR Zens_Saint
  • Score: 17

8:55am Tue 6 May 14

Dave Juson says...

To be fair, it is possible that the YouTube broadcast was not mentioned in the press release. The good old days when the Echo’s Saints’ correspondent used to find out what was going on by phoning the manager for a chat around lunch time have long gone.
To be fair, it is possible that the YouTube broadcast was not mentioned in the press release. The good old days when the Echo’s Saints’ correspondent used to find out what was going on by phoning the manager for a chat around lunch time have long gone. Dave Juson
  • Score: 8

9:02am Tue 6 May 14

saint dave says...

Zens_Saint wrote:
Maybe informing people they can watch it live on YouTube for the first time might be a good idea?

COYR
Didn't know that what time?
[quote][p][bold]Zens_Saint[/bold] wrote: Maybe informing people they can watch it live on YouTube for the first time might be a good idea? COYR[/p][/quote]Didn't know that what time? saint dave
  • Score: 4

9:10am Tue 6 May 14

Malcombe says...

There we go Supporters do we read between the lines that the Very Very Special One is not leaving, I commented yesterday the crumb of comfort is that Mauricio and Les Reed are already planning for next season and here we read it in another context, do we all drop to our knees and pray that he and all the Players are staying although I can't I am an Atheist.
There we go Supporters do we read between the lines that the Very Very Special One is not leaving, I commented yesterday the crumb of comfort is that Mauricio and Les Reed are already planning for next season and here we read it in another context, do we all drop to our knees and pray that he and all the Players are staying although I can't I am an Atheist. Malcombe
  • Score: 11

9:24am Tue 6 May 14

hedge end bob says...

I think the only award the players would like to have is the same manager next season, playing with the same players and being supported by the same fans.
The summer can't go fast enough for me!!!
COYREDSSSSSS
I think the only award the players would like to have is the same manager next season, playing with the same players and being supported by the same fans. The summer can't go fast enough for me!!! COYREDSSSSSS hedge end bob
  • Score: 18

9:54am Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted Reality-man
  • Score: -67

9:58am Tue 6 May 14

andoru says...

Have an award yourself, MoPo.
Have an award yourself, MoPo. andoru
  • Score: 35

10:01am Tue 6 May 14

andoru says...

Reality-man wrote:
Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this? andoru
  • Score: 7

10:13am Tue 6 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
He doesn't know this because it is not the end of the season and no discussions are allowed to take place until then anyway. At that time it will be up to MP and Les to sign off on the targets for next season. We are looking to build on a great season not scrape for survival next year by selling off our best players.

My worry is that to set a target of better than 8th in the Premier league Saints will need to not sell any players and bring in another 3 players. Centreback, Left back and Forward.

I would then have a left back who could take over from Shaw if we are ready to cash in on him next January. This will depend on where Saints are in the table then but my guess is we could keep him to at least then as he will be getting first team football under his belt and a good pre-season. He is still developing so could help us next season when we were 2nd at one stage.
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]He doesn't know this because it is not the end of the season and no discussions are allowed to take place until then anyway. At that time it will be up to MP and Les to sign off on the targets for next season. We are looking to build on a great season not scrape for survival next year by selling off our best players. My worry is that to set a target of better than 8th in the Premier league Saints will need to not sell any players and bring in another 3 players. Centreback, Left back and Forward. I would then have a left back who could take over from Shaw if we are ready to cash in on him next January. This will depend on where Saints are in the table then but my guess is we could keep him to at least then as he will be getting first team football under his belt and a good pre-season. He is still developing so could help us next season when we were 2nd at one stage. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 6

10:35am Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

MP`s right, we have a team full of players of the year this season and its hard to decide who is the `stand out` player. I have voted for Dejan, I just think our back line is so much better this season and most of that is because of him.

I expect lalla will get the nod though as mentally challenged will have been clogging up the voting system trying to place multiple votes for him.
if lalla gets both honours will mentally challenged admit that his opinion of lalla is wrong? a player who gets in the top 6 of the players player vote and into the players team of the year, who every pundit is raving about and saying he should go the world cup, and (if voted tonight) is saints players player and fans player of the year, and yet mentally challenged thinks hes rubbish and we should replace him with the much better Snodgrass. or is mentally challenged being disingenuous?
MP`s right, we have a team full of players of the year this season and its hard to decide who is the `stand out` player. I have voted for Dejan, I just think our back line is so much better this season and most of that is because of him. I expect lalla will get the nod though as mentally challenged will have been clogging up the voting system trying to place multiple votes for him. if lalla gets both honours will mentally challenged admit that his opinion of lalla is wrong? a player who gets in the top 6 of the players player vote and into the players team of the year, who every pundit is raving about and saying he should go the world cup, and (if voted tonight) is saints players player and fans player of the year, and yet mentally challenged thinks hes rubbish and we should replace him with the much better Snodgrass. or is mentally challenged being disingenuous? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

10:41am Tue 6 May 14

Jan28th1984 says...

andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 19

10:45am Tue 6 May 14

There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire says...

Looking at next season, and I know this is a bit left-field, but I wonder if taking Welbeck of mid-table strugglers Manure might be a good bit of business as he did link up well with Rickie for England and we do need back-up for J Rod
Looking at next season, and I know this is a bit left-field, but I wonder if taking Welbeck of mid-table strugglers Manure might be a good bit of business as he did link up well with Rickie for England and we do need back-up for J Rod There's only one 'H' in 'Ampshire
  • Score: 7

10:46am Tue 6 May 14

Puddletown Saint says...

I like the words 'All my Saints players'. I honestly believe they will all stick together for one more season. If we push on then for longer. Remember MoPo and Corky are still under contract for next season so in theory can go no where...............
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I like the words 'All my Saints players'. I honestly believe they will all stick together for one more season. If we push on then for longer. Remember MoPo and Corky are still under contract for next season so in theory can go no where............... .................... ................ Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 5

10:47am Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct. Reality-man
  • Score: -15

11:05am Tue 6 May 14

Confucious says...

MoPo talked about Saints as the "the family" at last year's do and hopefully we'll get some good vibes in his speech tonight.

I hope Mrs Wilson gets an award. Word is Chelsea are targeting her for their top switchboard role. Lose her and we lose a vital source of inside info and that critically important conduit for my pre match briefings to MoPo.

Voting has now closed on Confuciousnews.com's prestigious "Saints Fan of the Year Award".
MoPo talked about Saints as the "the family" at last year's do and hopefully we'll get some good vibes in his speech tonight. I hope Mrs Wilson gets an award. Word is Chelsea are targeting her for their top switchboard role. Lose her and we lose a vital source of inside info and that critically important conduit for my pre match briefings to MoPo. Voting has now closed on Confuciousnews.com's prestigious "Saints Fan of the Year Award". Confucious
  • Score: 9

11:12am Tue 6 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
There are absolutely no done deals whatsoever. If however the club do not show ambition and offer the right new contracts to the players and commit to improving the team then deals will sadly start to be done in the not too distant future.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]There are absolutely no done deals whatsoever. If however the club do not show ambition and offer the right new contracts to the players and commit to improving the team then deals will sadly start to be done in the not too distant future. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 12

11:13am Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Reality-man wrote:
Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
That is a real shame, I believe you, but where are they going and how much will we be getting in to buy the next draught of winners?
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]That is a real shame, I believe you, but where are they going and how much will we be getting in to buy the next draught of winners? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

11:14am Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
That is a real shame, I believe you, but where are they going and how much will we be getting in to buy the next draught of winners?
Should that be draft of winners? Never mind you know what I mean........
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]That is a real shame, I believe you, but where are they going and how much will we be getting in to buy the next draught of winners?[/p][/quote]Should that be draft of winners? Never mind you know what I mean........ OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:29am Tue 6 May 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
Get lost skunt
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]Get lost skunt Jan28th1984
  • Score: 5

11:33am Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Comentator last night to Les Reed about the Players Transfers
Q: "Nothing may have been discussed formally, but have there been informal discussions?"
A: Reed - "No"

Someone is telling economical truth based statements, I wonder who?
Comentator last night to Les Reed about the Players Transfers Q: "Nothing may have been discussed formally, but have there been informal discussions?" A: Reed - "No" Someone is telling economical truth based statements, I wonder who? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

11:35am Tue 6 May 14

warrens 76 says...

Living in Switzerland all I ever see is Liebhher cranes, why do they not advertise at an inflated price like all the other non fairplay rascals thus removing any immediate finacial concerns and allowing us to kick on with improving the team as oppossed to losing our best?

I am not sure if the board understand how easy slipping back into a medium sized provincial club fighting year in and out relegation will be if they do not grasp the nettle, indeed the financial meltdown of being relegated or never being able to compete for the valuable prizes will create the loss in value they so want to avoid.

Southampton is on a knife edge, as good as our academy is this amount of quality homegrown or developed talent is rare, very very rare, we will never again have the chance to join the elite for the want of maybe 30 million more and a higher wage bill…

…this financial jump and the global recognition is a once in a lifetime opportunity, to try and rebuild this from scratch 'again' would require 100's of millions….

So Southampton board, you have been given a ticket to the hottest party in town, you have attended, the best looking girl fancy's you, she agree's to have coffee in your house….now what are you waiting for..!
Living in Switzerland all I ever see is Liebhher cranes, why do they not advertise at an inflated price like all the other non fairplay rascals thus removing any immediate finacial concerns and allowing us to kick on with improving the team as oppossed to losing our best? I am not sure if the board understand how easy slipping back into a medium sized provincial club fighting year in and out relegation will be if they do not grasp the nettle, indeed the financial meltdown of being relegated or never being able to compete for the valuable prizes will create the loss in value they so want to avoid. Southampton is on a knife edge, as good as our academy is this amount of quality homegrown or developed talent is rare, very very rare, we will never again have the chance to join the elite for the want of maybe 30 million more and a higher wage bill… …this financial jump and the global recognition is a once in a lifetime opportunity, to try and rebuild this from scratch 'again' would require 100's of millions…. So Southampton board, you have been given a ticket to the hottest party in town, you have attended, the best looking girl fancy's you, she agree's to have coffee in your house….now what are you waiting for..! warrens 76
  • Score: 14

11:35am Tue 6 May 14

Zens_Saint says...

Was announced on official site last night so would assume this article is based on that.

As far as I'm aware it's 9pm on official Southampton YouTube page.
Was announced on official site last night so would assume this article is based on that. As far as I'm aware it's 9pm on official Southampton YouTube page. Zens_Saint
  • Score: 2

11:36am Tue 6 May 14

Poole Tom says...

I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka. Poole Tom
  • Score: 7

12:08pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 12

12:08pm Tue 6 May 14

Clever Dick says...

And look what Suarez is worth now. Probably in excess of £60 million. I agree with you regarding our players. We should rebuff every offer that comes along unless we think we can replace with equal quality and make a profit on the deal. Can't agree with you over fighting relegation though. West brom finished eighth because they overachieved AND they had Lukaku who got plenty of goals. Liverpool have overachieved because they have Suarez and Everton have overachieved because of Lukaku as well. We have underachieved in terms of goals since we lost Jrod. Clearly quality strikers are the most important aspect of any side. That's why they cost so much. It's probably why we took a punt on that tw-t Osvaldo. If he had produced the price would have been a bargain. Our squad is far ,far better than WBAs and we should have no fears of relegation whatsoever. A couple of quality additions, especially a striker and we will be a definite force next season.
And look what Suarez is worth now. Probably in excess of £60 million. I agree with you regarding our players. We should rebuff every offer that comes along unless we think we can replace with equal quality and make a profit on the deal. Can't agree with you over fighting relegation though. West brom finished eighth because they overachieved AND they had Lukaku who got plenty of goals. Liverpool have overachieved because they have Suarez and Everton have overachieved because of Lukaku as well. We have underachieved in terms of goals since we lost Jrod. Clearly quality strikers are the most important aspect of any side. That's why they cost so much. It's probably why we took a punt on that tw-t Osvaldo. If he had produced the price would have been a bargain. Our squad is far ,far better than WBAs and we should have no fears of relegation whatsoever. A couple of quality additions, especially a striker and we will be a definite force next season. Clever Dick
  • Score: 5

12:08pm Tue 6 May 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Yea Liverpool would be 30 goals lighter without Suarez, but it would cost a king's ransom to replace him. Everyone wants a sharpshooter like him, most of all us - but we will have to get in line behind Chelsea at least, and they can offer Champions League football.
Like warrens says we are close to getting the squad that can challenge at the top but I think it will cost us (or rather it will cost Kat Liebherr) a lot more than £30m and Swiss businessmen just don't throw money at a problem.
Some big decisions to be made at the club this summer........
[quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Yea Liverpool would be 30 goals lighter without Suarez, but it would cost a king's ransom to replace him. Everyone wants a sharpshooter like him, most of all us - but we will have to get in line behind Chelsea at least, and they can offer Champions League football. Like warrens says we are close to getting the squad that can challenge at the top but I think it will cost us (or rather it will cost Kat Liebherr) a lot more than £30m and Swiss businessmen just don't throw money at a problem. Some big decisions to be made at the club this summer........ Jan28th1984
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Tue 6 May 14

Kentie Saint says...

Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Quite right to remind us of WBA. But the guy who led them to 8th place was Steve Clarke who was then sacked this season after four consecutive league defeats. We need stability - stay MoPo (and Adam, Luke ... etc)!!!
[quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Quite right to remind us of WBA. But the guy who led them to 8th place was Steve Clarke who was then sacked this season after four consecutive league defeats. We need stability - stay MoPo (and Adam, Luke ... etc)!!! Kentie Saint
  • Score: 4

12:21pm Tue 6 May 14

Portswood Pete says...

Reality-man wrote:
Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
WUM. You're calling Les Reed a liar are you? http://www.bbc.com/s
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[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]WUM. You're calling Les Reed a liar are you? http://www.bbc.com/s port/0/football/2729 3914 Portswood Pete
  • Score: 4

12:34pm Tue 6 May 14

Stnana says...

Billy Sharp's back. I hope a permanent move for him will be sorted out this time can't help thinking he's been very unfairly treated. Good Luck Billy and thanks again.
Billy Sharp's back. I hope a permanent move for him will be sorted out this time can't help thinking he's been very unfairly treated. Good Luck Billy and thanks again. Stnana
  • Score: 13

12:37pm Tue 6 May 14

Portswood Pete says...

Stnana wrote:
Billy Sharp's back. I hope a permanent move for him will be sorted out this time can't help thinking he's been very unfairly treated. Good Luck Billy and thanks again.
Hasn't exactly set the Championship alight this season has he, not sure he's been unfairly treated. I agree with your good luck and thanks, done well for us in our promotion season.
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: Billy Sharp's back. I hope a permanent move for him will be sorted out this time can't help thinking he's been very unfairly treated. Good Luck Billy and thanks again.[/p][/quote]Hasn't exactly set the Championship alight this season has he, not sure he's been unfairly treated. I agree with your good luck and thanks, done well for us in our promotion season. Portswood Pete
  • Score: 4

12:41pm Tue 6 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts.

Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.
[quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts. Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

1:04pm Tue 6 May 14

hedge end bob says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
JUST IGNORE HE TW@T.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]JUST IGNORE HE TW@T. hedge end bob
  • Score: 1

1:22pm Tue 6 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts.

Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.
Quite so, particularly as success is not made from one decision, but a series of judgements over a long period of time. SRL will not last long and no one is getting any younger. Here's to many successful years back where we belong!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts. Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.[/p][/quote]Quite so, particularly as success is not made from one decision, but a series of judgements over a long period of time. SRL will not last long and no one is getting any younger. Here's to many successful years back where we belong! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 1

1:41pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The one thing that gives me real concern is that if Reality-man is getting his ITK knowledge from inside the Club it means that we have a traitor in the camp, who should be named and shamed, was is your take on that?
The one thing that gives me real concern is that if Reality-man is getting his ITK knowledge from inside the Club it means that we have a traitor in the camp, who should be named and shamed, was is your take on that? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:42pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The one thing that gives me real concern is that if Reality-man is getting his ITK knowledge from inside the Club it means that we have a traitor in the camp, who should be named and shamed, was is your take on that?
was = what, sorry for the typo.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The one thing that gives me real concern is that if Reality-man is getting his ITK knowledge from inside the Club it means that we have a traitor in the camp, who should be named and shamed, was is your take on that?[/p][/quote]was = what, sorry for the typo. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:43pm Tue 6 May 14

hedge end bob says...

Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
With LES REED on TV last night claiming no deals have been struck and nothing will be talked about until the season is over.
But on the other hand the done deals that have been done are Van Persi will sign first thing Monday morning .Skirtle got wind of this and will be down for talks Tuesday and Ramsey was so impressed with Chambers that he has told POOCHY TO COME AND GET ME . All done deals but are they what we need???
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]With LES REED on TV last night claiming no deals have been struck and nothing will be talked about until the season is over. But on the other hand the done deals that have been done are Van Persi will sign first thing Monday morning .Skirtle got wind of this and will be down for talks Tuesday and Ramsey was so impressed with Chambers that he has told POOCHY TO COME AND GET ME . All done deals but are they what we need??? hedge end bob
  • Score: 2

1:54pm Tue 6 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The one thing that gives me real concern is that if Reality-man is getting his ITK knowledge from inside the Club it means that we have a traitor in the camp, who should be named and shamed, was is your take on that?
If his info was coming from inside the club I'd be more concerned about the club barefaced lying to us. However, he is not getting his info from anywhere as it's incorrect. If the deals do end up being done it was still incorrect when he claimed it to be so.

A chance passing of Popham saw me and Seed the Small taking in the airshow. Wondered if you were there?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The one thing that gives me real concern is that if Reality-man is getting his ITK knowledge from inside the Club it means that we have a traitor in the camp, who should be named and shamed, was is your take on that?[/p][/quote]If his info was coming from inside the club I'd be more concerned about the club barefaced lying to us. However, he is not getting his info from anywhere as it's incorrect. If the deals do end up being done it was still incorrect when he claimed it to be so. A chance passing of Popham saw me and Seed the Small taking in the airshow. Wondered if you were there? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

2:07pm Tue 6 May 14

damoose says...

Somethings brewing we just don`t know if it`s for or against yet..but with the new tv deal next season i think they will give MoPo what he wants,then hopefully everybody will stay and build this squad so we can challenge for the title in a few years time
Somethings brewing we just don`t know if it`s for or against yet..but with the new tv deal next season i think they will give MoPo what he wants,then hopefully everybody will stay and build this squad so we can challenge for the title in a few years time damoose
  • Score: 1

2:20pm Tue 6 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Lets face it if Katharine Liebher was content for Saints to establish ourselves in the Premiership and be successful then she could now happily find a buyer for the club sell and make a tidy profit. The only reason she will stay is if convinced that there is plenty more to come from Saints. Cortese was a big advocate for raising the ambitions of the club and hopefully a lot of that has stuck. Cortese probably did such as a good job convincing people that Saints could get into the Champions League that everyone at the club believes it. If MP signs a new 5 year contract with Saints then he will certainly believe it and that means investment will come.

There is no point in Saints spending £27m on a new state of the art training complex to boost our already top Academy if we don't push on now and invest.
We need to get rid of Osvaldo so that money can be re-invested and the wage bill can be cut with other players leaving out of contract. Then it's time for more youngsters to step up and 3 more quality additions.

I can only see Shaw leaving for £30m in the summer if this money allows us to strengthen our squad and if we get 2 quality left backs in as a replacement.

No one else will leave.
Lets face it if Katharine Liebher was content for Saints to establish ourselves in the Premiership and be successful then she could now happily find a buyer for the club sell and make a tidy profit. The only reason she will stay is if convinced that there is plenty more to come from Saints. Cortese was a big advocate for raising the ambitions of the club and hopefully a lot of that has stuck. Cortese probably did such as a good job convincing people that Saints could get into the Champions League that everyone at the club believes it. If MP signs a new 5 year contract with Saints then he will certainly believe it and that means investment will come. There is no point in Saints spending £27m on a new state of the art training complex to boost our already top Academy if we don't push on now and invest. We need to get rid of Osvaldo so that money can be re-invested and the wage bill can be cut with other players leaving out of contract. Then it's time for more youngsters to step up and 3 more quality additions. I can only see Shaw leaving for £30m in the summer if this money allows us to strengthen our squad and if we get 2 quality left backs in as a replacement. No one else will leave. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 3

2:23pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
With LES REED on TV last night claiming no deals have been struck and nothing will be talked about until the season is over.
But on the other hand the done deals that have been done are Van Persi will sign first thing Monday morning .Skirtle got wind of this and will be down for talks Tuesday and Ramsey was so impressed with Chambers that he has told POOCHY TO COME AND GET ME . All done deals but are they what we need???
Les Reed is an Executive Director of the Club and one of four members of the Board and is Head of Football Development, He is the person in charge of contracts, negotiations and transfers. Les has now gone on record twice stating that NO deals have been done for our players, there have been NO bids and there has been NO informal contact from other clubs with regard to our manager or players.
If people on here or in the media claim differently then they are either claiming that Les Reed is being economical with the truth or they are making things up to suit their own purpose, whatever that might be!
Why would Les lie? if he is not being 100% truthful then there will be a huge fan backlash, which could damage not only his career but the club as well. Les has also stated that they have been talking to MP about a new contract but he wants to wait until the end of the season.
We may well sell a player or 2 but just because you have claimed it is already a done deal now doesn't make you right and mean people owe you an apology!
reality-man (love the way people claim they are `just being realists` etc when they say these things) has claimed that 3 players are going and they are `done deals`, so what does reality-man know that the man in charge doesn't? my guess is nothing, and reality-man is doing a daily mail on us! "I'll accept your apologies when proved correct" what are you going to be proved correct about? we know you are wrong about them being done deals, unless les is lying, and there is no claim about which club any of them are already sold to. so if Luke is sold after the world cup to chelski will reality-man have been proven correct? not in my book. if they are `done deals` as claimed then I expect them to be sold in the first week or 2 of the window. the window for the summer runs 9th June – 31st August so all three will be sold before the world cup then? if the players aren't sold and you are wrong will you apologise to the rest of us?

this has been a great season for saints and as MP said its no wonder teams are looking at our players. its also true that these forums have attracted a lot of fake fans whos only goal is to wind up true fans! that the price being a successful club has to pay, and we fans know there is a great deal of envy coming from the wrong end of the M27. I don't believe a word of the rumours on here by people `in the know` or the media and will only believe a player is sold when its on the OS.

Lets enjoy the end of the season and celebrate what a great season its been instead of worrying about all these rumours!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]With LES REED on TV last night claiming no deals have been struck and nothing will be talked about until the season is over. But on the other hand the done deals that have been done are Van Persi will sign first thing Monday morning .Skirtle got wind of this and will be down for talks Tuesday and Ramsey was so impressed with Chambers that he has told POOCHY TO COME AND GET ME . All done deals but are they what we need???[/p][/quote]Les Reed is an Executive Director of the Club and one of four members of the Board and is Head of Football Development, He is the person in charge of contracts, negotiations and transfers. Les has now gone on record twice stating that NO deals have been done for our players, there have been NO bids and there has been NO informal contact from other clubs with regard to our manager or players. If people on here or in the media claim differently then they are either claiming that Les Reed is being economical with the truth or they are making things up to suit their own purpose, whatever that might be! Why would Les lie? if he is not being 100% truthful then there will be a huge fan backlash, which could damage not only his career but the club as well. Les has also stated that they have been talking to MP about a new contract but he wants to wait until the end of the season. We may well sell a player or 2 but just because you have claimed it is already a done deal now doesn't make you right and mean people owe you an apology! reality-man (love the way people claim they are `just being realists` etc when they say these things) has claimed that 3 players are going and they are `done deals`, so what does reality-man know that the man in charge doesn't? my guess is nothing, and reality-man is doing a daily mail on us! "I'll accept your apologies when proved correct" what are you going to be proved correct about? we know you are wrong about them being done deals, unless les is lying, and there is no claim about which club any of them are already sold to. so if Luke is sold after the world cup to chelski will reality-man have been proven correct? not in my book. if they are `done deals` as claimed then I expect them to be sold in the first week or 2 of the window. the window for the summer runs 9th June – 31st August so all three will be sold before the world cup then? if the players aren't sold and you are wrong will you apologise to the rest of us? this has been a great season for saints and as MP said its no wonder teams are looking at our players. its also true that these forums have attracted a lot of fake fans whos only goal is to wind up true fans! that the price being a successful club has to pay, and we fans know there is a great deal of envy coming from the wrong end of the M27. I don't believe a word of the rumours on here by people `in the know` or the media and will only believe a player is sold when its on the OS. Lets enjoy the end of the season and celebrate what a great season its been instead of worrying about all these rumours! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 6

2:34pm Tue 6 May 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Told you, mate he's on the wind-up don't worry about it! :-)
Told you, mate he's on the wind-up don't worry about it! :-) Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

2:59pm Tue 6 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts.

Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.
Reminds me a bit of 1982 when Keegan and Channon were here (along with the likes of Chris Nicholl and a host of decent academy players - Williams, Waldron, Moran, Graham Baker ....). K&C urged Mac to get Frank Worthington in as 'the last piece of the jigsaw' but Mac wouldn't (or couldn't) do it. Worthington signed for a season for Sunderland and Baker was sold to finance the buying of Shilton, but K&C left in anger before the 82-3 season had begun and we started the season with thrashings at Anfield and the Lane. Worthington finally arrived a year later for the 1983-4 season and we finished 2nd and should have won the FA Cup.

If only, eh?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts. Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.[/p][/quote]Reminds me a bit of 1982 when Keegan and Channon were here (along with the likes of Chris Nicholl and a host of decent academy players - Williams, Waldron, Moran, Graham Baker ....). K&C urged Mac to get Frank Worthington in as 'the last piece of the jigsaw' but Mac wouldn't (or couldn't) do it. Worthington signed for a season for Sunderland and Baker was sold to finance the buying of Shilton, but K&C left in anger before the 82-3 season had begun and we started the season with thrashings at Anfield and the Lane. Worthington finally arrived a year later for the 1983-4 season and we finished 2nd and should have won the FA Cup. If only, eh? Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

3:26pm Tue 6 May 14

The Inbetweener says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Lets face it if Katharine Liebher was content for Saints to establish ourselves in the Premiership and be successful then she could now happily find a buyer for the club sell and make a tidy profit. The only reason she will stay is if convinced that there is plenty more to come from Saints. Cortese was a big advocate for raising the ambitions of the club and hopefully a lot of that has stuck. Cortese probably did such as a good job convincing people that Saints could get into the Champions League that everyone at the club believes it. If MP signs a new 5 year contract with Saints then he will certainly believe it and that means investment will come.

There is no point in Saints spending £27m on a new state of the art training complex to boost our already top Academy if we don't push on now and invest.
We need to get rid of Osvaldo so that money can be re-invested and the wage bill can be cut with other players leaving out of contract. Then it's time for more youngsters to step up and 3 more quality additions.

I can only see Shaw leaving for £30m in the summer if this money allows us to strengthen our squad and if we get 2 quality left backs in as a replacement.

No one else will leave.
Let's hope the fans reaction to Luke on Saturday evening when he decided to take an impromptu stop at Burger King will make him stop and think how much the fans want him to stay at Saints next season. Him and his mates probably hadn't appreciated that the Saints coaches were at the same services.
Great banter with the fans and fair play to him for posing for endless photos, signing shirts etc. when he only wanted a quick burger.
The poor staff at Burger King didn't fully appreciate what was going on initially, but eventually a couple of staff (young girls) also asked for a photo.
I enjoyed the trip on Saturday, the away fans were superb as always but if MoPo doesn't already know another top goal scorer is needed in the summer. Young Sam tried really hard on Saturday, but he is one for the future and needs some time to develop his game, maybe a season long loan in the Championship, but he is not ready yet for the higher reaches of the Premier League just yet.
Seed, are you going to the awards ceremony tonight? If so, you may be able to gleen some proper inside information.
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Lets face it if Katharine Liebher was content for Saints to establish ourselves in the Premiership and be successful then she could now happily find a buyer for the club sell and make a tidy profit. The only reason she will stay is if convinced that there is plenty more to come from Saints. Cortese was a big advocate for raising the ambitions of the club and hopefully a lot of that has stuck. Cortese probably did such as a good job convincing people that Saints could get into the Champions League that everyone at the club believes it. If MP signs a new 5 year contract with Saints then he will certainly believe it and that means investment will come. There is no point in Saints spending £27m on a new state of the art training complex to boost our already top Academy if we don't push on now and invest. We need to get rid of Osvaldo so that money can be re-invested and the wage bill can be cut with other players leaving out of contract. Then it's time for more youngsters to step up and 3 more quality additions. I can only see Shaw leaving for £30m in the summer if this money allows us to strengthen our squad and if we get 2 quality left backs in as a replacement. No one else will leave.[/p][/quote]Let's hope the fans reaction to Luke on Saturday evening when he decided to take an impromptu stop at Burger King will make him stop and think how much the fans want him to stay at Saints next season. Him and his mates probably hadn't appreciated that the Saints coaches were at the same services. Great banter with the fans and fair play to him for posing for endless photos, signing shirts etc. when he only wanted a quick burger. The poor staff at Burger King didn't fully appreciate what was going on initially, but eventually a couple of staff (young girls) also asked for a photo. I enjoyed the trip on Saturday, the away fans were superb as always but if MoPo doesn't already know another top goal scorer is needed in the summer. Young Sam tried really hard on Saturday, but he is one for the future and needs some time to develop his game, maybe a season long loan in the Championship, but he is not ready yet for the higher reaches of the Premier League just yet. Seed, are you going to the awards ceremony tonight? If so, you may be able to gleen some proper inside information. The Inbetweener
  • Score: 3

3:34pm Tue 6 May 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

I agree with MP........ALL the players deserve an award!

Just like our junior schools Sportsday last year, when every competitor, (even young Brett Collins who was frankly useless at the 60m Egg & Spoon event) was rewarded with a 'lucky dip' prize for taking part.I think the winners had two goes, just to differentiate between success and mediocrity.

Nice one Poch.
I agree with MP........ALL the players deserve an award! Just like our junior schools Sportsday last year, when every competitor, (even young Brett Collins who was frankly useless at the 60m Egg & Spoon event) was rewarded with a 'lucky dip' prize for taking part.I think the winners had two goes, just to differentiate between success and mediocrity. Nice one Poch. Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -1

3:40pm Tue 6 May 14

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts.

Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.
Reminds me a bit of 1982 when Keegan and Channon were here (along with the likes of Chris Nicholl and a host of decent academy players - Williams, Waldron, Moran, Graham Baker ....). K&C urged Mac to get Frank Worthington in as 'the last piece of the jigsaw' but Mac wouldn't (or couldn't) do it. Worthington signed for a season for Sunderland and Baker was sold to finance the buying of Shilton, but K&C left in anger before the 82-3 season had begun and we started the season with thrashings at Anfield and the Lane. Worthington finally arrived a year later for the 1983-4 season and we finished 2nd and should have won the FA Cup.

If only, eh?
I really hope someone rams this home to the club…we could have been champions in 82 and 84 all for the want of one player…

..if we had woneither the cup or league or BOTH in 84 we would have enjoyed a period of dominance which would have improved the fan base, bought a move to a bigger ground sooner and probably have avoided the Lowe era…

One player is all it took, today probably three however the rewards are vast and the nucleus is there which will never be created again if we do not join the elite's now…always learn from history ..
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts. Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.[/p][/quote]Reminds me a bit of 1982 when Keegan and Channon were here (along with the likes of Chris Nicholl and a host of decent academy players - Williams, Waldron, Moran, Graham Baker ....). K&C urged Mac to get Frank Worthington in as 'the last piece of the jigsaw' but Mac wouldn't (or couldn't) do it. Worthington signed for a season for Sunderland and Baker was sold to finance the buying of Shilton, but K&C left in anger before the 82-3 season had begun and we started the season with thrashings at Anfield and the Lane. Worthington finally arrived a year later for the 1983-4 season and we finished 2nd and should have won the FA Cup. If only, eh?[/p][/quote]I really hope someone rams this home to the club…we could have been champions in 82 and 84 all for the want of one player… ..if we had woneither the cup or league or BOTH in 84 we would have enjoyed a period of dominance which would have improved the fan base, bought a move to a bigger ground sooner and probably have avoided the Lowe era… One player is all it took, today probably three however the rewards are vast and the nucleus is there which will never be created again if we do not join the elite's now…always learn from history .. warrens 76
  • Score: 5

3:59pm Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.
I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.[/p][/quote]I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world Reality-man
  • Score: 5

4:25pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.
I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world
Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash.
I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.[/p][/quote]I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world[/p][/quote]Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

4:44pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The one thing that gives me real concern is that if Reality-man is getting his ITK knowledge from inside the Club it means that we have a traitor in the camp, who should be named and shamed, was is your take on that?
If his info was coming from inside the club I'd be more concerned about the club barefaced lying to us. However, he is not getting his info from anywhere as it's incorrect. If the deals do end up being done it was still incorrect when he claimed it to be so.

A chance passing of Popham saw me and Seed the Small taking in the airshow. Wondered if you were there?
I was at Popham all day Saturday and in the afternoon on Monday! It is a lovely place to be when the weather is right. Not a football rumour in sight! Was actually sat at the end of the runway photographing aircraft and listening to the game on Solent, twice the fun two hobbies in one!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: The one thing that gives me real concern is that if Reality-man is getting his ITK knowledge from inside the Club it means that we have a traitor in the camp, who should be named and shamed, was is your take on that?[/p][/quote]If his info was coming from inside the club I'd be more concerned about the club barefaced lying to us. However, he is not getting his info from anywhere as it's incorrect. If the deals do end up being done it was still incorrect when he claimed it to be so. A chance passing of Popham saw me and Seed the Small taking in the airshow. Wondered if you were there?[/p][/quote]I was at Popham all day Saturday and in the afternoon on Monday! It is a lovely place to be when the weather is right. Not a football rumour in sight! Was actually sat at the end of the runway photographing aircraft and listening to the game on Solent, twice the fun two hobbies in one! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

4:54pm Tue 6 May 14

NikkkoNik says...

This is the biggest summer for our board over the last 30 years, this is where they will be seen to prove their effectiveness. Under Cortese we seemed more in control and ambitious. Although it was not his money, you felt he had the long term interests at heart, whether true or not. If we would loose our manager, you feel Cortese would find a good replacement. This new board has much to prove, leadership being one. Major decisions need to be made, who to keep, let go good and bad players and who to buy with what money. They are being tested and so far have not performed. The manager is not yet convinced with player agents sensing blood under weak leadership.
This is the biggest summer for our board over the last 30 years, this is where they will be seen to prove their effectiveness. Under Cortese we seemed more in control and ambitious. Although it was not his money, you felt he had the long term interests at heart, whether true or not. If we would loose our manager, you feel Cortese would find a good replacement. This new board has much to prove, leadership being one. Major decisions need to be made, who to keep, let go good and bad players and who to buy with what money. They are being tested and so far have not performed. The manager is not yet convinced with player agents sensing blood under weak leadership. NikkkoNik
  • Score: 2

4:57pm Tue 6 May 14

NikkkoNik says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
He doesn't know this because it is not the end of the season and no discussions are allowed to take place until then anyway. At that time it will be up to MP and Les to sign off on the targets for next season. We are looking to build on a great season not scrape for survival next year by selling off our best players.

My worry is that to set a target of better than 8th in the Premier league Saints will need to not sell any players and bring in another 3 players. Centreback, Left back and Forward.

I would then have a left back who could take over from Shaw if we are ready to cash in on him next January. This will depend on where Saints are in the table then but my guess is we could keep him to at least then as he will be getting first team football under his belt and a good pre-season. He is still developing so could help us next season when we were 2nd at one stage.
What about a goalkeeper and someone with pace and skill attacking the wing, supporting/scoring goals, a replacement for the Ox.
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]He doesn't know this because it is not the end of the season and no discussions are allowed to take place until then anyway. At that time it will be up to MP and Les to sign off on the targets for next season. We are looking to build on a great season not scrape for survival next year by selling off our best players. My worry is that to set a target of better than 8th in the Premier league Saints will need to not sell any players and bring in another 3 players. Centreback, Left back and Forward. I would then have a left back who could take over from Shaw if we are ready to cash in on him next January. This will depend on where Saints are in the table then but my guess is we could keep him to at least then as he will be getting first team football under his belt and a good pre-season. He is still developing so could help us next season when we were 2nd at one stage.[/p][/quote]What about a goalkeeper and someone with pace and skill attacking the wing, supporting/scoring goals, a replacement for the Ox. NikkkoNik
  • Score: 1

5:00pm Tue 6 May 14

Dave Juson says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts.

Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.
Reminds me a bit of 1982 when Keegan and Channon were here (along with the likes of Chris Nicholl and a host of decent academy players - Williams, Waldron, Moran, Graham Baker ....). K&C urged Mac to get Frank Worthington in as 'the last piece of the jigsaw' but Mac wouldn't (or couldn't) do it. Worthington signed for a season for Sunderland and Baker was sold to finance the buying of Shilton, but K&C left in anger before the 82-3 season had begun and we started the season with thrashings at Anfield and the Lane. Worthington finally arrived a year later for the 1983-4 season and we finished 2nd and should have won the FA Cup.

If only, eh?
I know it was a long time ago, but that is not only a seriously inaccurate representation of what happened but omits the 1982-83 season.
These events are covered in “In That Number” (Hagiology Publishing, 2003).
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts. Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.[/p][/quote]Reminds me a bit of 1982 when Keegan and Channon were here (along with the likes of Chris Nicholl and a host of decent academy players - Williams, Waldron, Moran, Graham Baker ....). K&C urged Mac to get Frank Worthington in as 'the last piece of the jigsaw' but Mac wouldn't (or couldn't) do it. Worthington signed for a season for Sunderland and Baker was sold to finance the buying of Shilton, but K&C left in anger before the 82-3 season had begun and we started the season with thrashings at Anfield and the Lane. Worthington finally arrived a year later for the 1983-4 season and we finished 2nd and should have won the FA Cup. If only, eh?[/p][/quote]I know it was a long time ago, but that is not only a seriously inaccurate representation of what happened but omits the 1982-83 season. These events are covered in “In That Number” (Hagiology Publishing, 2003). Dave Juson
  • Score: 0

5:04pm Tue 6 May 14

Blackknight says...

The press continues to speculate on potential bids/offers for nearly all our first team squad and the manager. Its what sells newspapers.

No doubt there will be both coming's and goings for next season. Its the lifeblood of football.

Lets just hope we get top dollar, sell on clauses and appearance money for the goings.

For the coming's we get top class young players at sensible prices while continuing to develop and provide opportunities for our youngsters.

Now we just want to stuff Manure to round off a great season, and hope Rickie, Adam and Luke are on the plane to Brazil.
The press continues to speculate on potential bids/offers for nearly all our first team squad and the manager. Its what sells newspapers. No doubt there will be both coming's and goings for next season. Its the lifeblood of football. Lets just hope we get top dollar, sell on clauses and appearance money for the goings. For the coming's we get top class young players at sensible prices while continuing to develop and provide opportunities for our youngsters. Now we just want to stuff Manure to round off a great season, and hope Rickie, Adam and Luke are on the plane to Brazil. Blackknight
  • Score: 2

5:20pm Tue 6 May 14

Jan28th1984 says...

To Reality-man - Alright alright - I'm sorry I called you names - OK it was wrong and I am a complete c*ck.
But I was wound up because it is more rumours about players going anywhere but here - it's bad enough the press stirring it up muddying the squad's great achievements for this season without the supporters doing it too.........
I want to read facts about player transfers - not rumours.
To Reality-man - Alright alright - I'm sorry I called you names - OK it was wrong and I am a complete c*ck. But I was wound up because it is more rumours about players going anywhere but here - it's bad enough the press stirring it up muddying the squad's great achievements for this season without the supporters doing it too......... I want to read facts about player transfers - not rumours. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 1

5:21pm Tue 6 May 14

Dave Juson says...

Reading much of the above not unlike watching a Frank Doberman sketch. http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=ETqncRvQH
Wk
You will have plenty of time to kick chairs "it" actualy happens. Why not bide you time?
Reading much of the above not unlike watching a Frank Doberman sketch. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=ETqncRvQH Wk You will have plenty of time to kick chairs "it" actualy happens. Why not bide you time? Dave Juson
  • Score: 1

5:32pm Tue 6 May 14

bigfella777 says...

I'm not a businessman but what is the point of selling players rather than pay them what they can get elsewhere? You then have to replace them with players who will play for cheaper wages who wont be as good.
Seems daft to me
I'm not a businessman but what is the point of selling players rather than pay them what they can get elsewhere? You then have to replace them with players who will play for cheaper wages who wont be as good. Seems daft to me bigfella777
  • Score: 3

5:42pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

in other news poopeys planned players player award diner has had to be called off because they forgot to book Mcdonalds in time and there were no votes placed because not even there own players know who their teammates are!

WTFILN!
in other news poopeys planned players player award diner has had to be called off because they forgot to book Mcdonalds in time and there were no votes placed because not even there own players know who their teammates are! WTFILN! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

5:58pm Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
To Reality-man - Alright alright - I'm sorry I called you names - OK it was wrong and I am a complete c*ck.
But I was wound up because it is more rumours about players going anywhere but here - it's bad enough the press stirring it up muddying the squad's great achievements for this season without the supporters doing it too.........
I want to read facts about player transfers - not rumours.
I appreciate that thanks. I feel the same so maybe i shouldn't have posted it. My heart sank when I heard this And again I really really hope it turns out to be a load of rubbish!
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: To Reality-man - Alright alright - I'm sorry I called you names - OK it was wrong and I am a complete c*ck. But I was wound up because it is more rumours about players going anywhere but here - it's bad enough the press stirring it up muddying the squad's great achievements for this season without the supporters doing it too......... I want to read facts about player transfers - not rumours.[/p][/quote]I appreciate that thanks. I feel the same so maybe i shouldn't have posted it. My heart sank when I heard this And again I really really hope it turns out to be a load of rubbish! Reality-man
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans![/p][/quote]What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans! Reality-man
  • Score: 2

6:30pm Tue 6 May 14

StElsass says...

Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans!
Blimey, your reliable source must indeed be extremely reliable to cause you such distress!
Someone very high ranking in the club's hierarchy whom you know very closely, I suspect? Of course, you can't tell us who it is and we all understand that, or he/she would risk losing his/her job, wouldn't they?
Why, what can I say, should we all join you in mourning and go and cry in a corner of our room, waiting for the terrible news to come crashing on us?
Well, at least you'll have the consolation of letting us know that "I told you so!!".
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans![/p][/quote]What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans![/p][/quote]Blimey, your reliable source must indeed be extremely reliable to cause you such distress! Someone very high ranking in the club's hierarchy whom you know very closely, I suspect? Of course, you can't tell us who it is and we all understand that, or he/she would risk losing his/her job, wouldn't they? Why, what can I say, should we all join you in mourning and go and cry in a corner of our room, waiting for the terrible news to come crashing on us? Well, at least you'll have the consolation of letting us know that "I told you so!!". StElsass
  • Score: 2

6:38pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans!
people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them.
as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans?
do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance!
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans![/p][/quote]What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans![/p][/quote]people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them. as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans? do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

7:03pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place!
[quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

7:05pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place!
exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place![/p][/quote]exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

7:10pm Tue 6 May 14

george chivers says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans!
people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them.
as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans?
do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance!
As a fan who thinks that is inevitable we will lose players this summer I do believe what Les Red has said and his statement yesterday was better worded than his first one which was open to interpretation. However, I also believe, and I have no proof of course, at this time of the year agents who represent clubs in the top six of the PL will be talking to the agents of Southampton players and engaging them in a dialogue which could lead to the players leaving our club before the start of next season, without, at this point of time involving the club in those talks. Although I hope that doesn't happen and we retain our best players, I do think it is inevitable some will leave.

I think my point is that some people who write on these threads listen to Les Reed's statements and think that means nobody will be leaving the club full stop, which is a crazy interpretation of what has been said. This time Les Reed has made it clear that what is true at the moment, does not guarantee that players won't leave during the summer, which is a far better and more accurate statement than the first one he made.

I think we have a long summer in front of us. Clubs who are interested in buying our players won't want to pay out money in advance of the WC in case the player in question sustains a serious injury in Brazil. Unfortunately that may lead fans to believe nobody is leaving when in fact they are. It really is a case of watch this space for a long time. A difficult time for the club and the fans, exacerbated by the WC.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans![/p][/quote]What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans![/p][/quote]people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them. as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans? do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance![/p][/quote]As a fan who thinks that is inevitable we will lose players this summer I do believe what Les Red has said and his statement yesterday was better worded than his first one which was open to interpretation. However, I also believe, and I have no proof of course, at this time of the year agents who represent clubs in the top six of the PL will be talking to the agents of Southampton players and engaging them in a dialogue which could lead to the players leaving our club before the start of next season, without, at this point of time involving the club in those talks. Although I hope that doesn't happen and we retain our best players, I do think it is inevitable some will leave. I think my point is that some people who write on these threads listen to Les Reed's statements and think that means nobody will be leaving the club full stop, which is a crazy interpretation of what has been said. This time Les Reed has made it clear that what is true at the moment, does not guarantee that players won't leave during the summer, which is a far better and more accurate statement than the first one he made. I think we have a long summer in front of us. Clubs who are interested in buying our players won't want to pay out money in advance of the WC in case the player in question sustains a serious injury in Brazil. Unfortunately that may lead fans to believe nobody is leaving when in fact they are. It really is a case of watch this space for a long time. A difficult time for the club and the fans, exacerbated by the WC. george chivers
  • Score: 2

7:20pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place!
exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting!
Apologies for the wayward punctuation! Reality-man please watch
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/27
293914
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place![/p][/quote]exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting![/p][/quote]Apologies for the wayward punctuation! Reality-man please watch http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 293914 OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

7:22pm Tue 6 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

I am not sure that Les Reed, Ralph and the new board have grasped how critical this transfer window is. It will be a difficult one with the World Cup preventing some activity.
It will be best to sort the Manager situation out as a matter of Urgency, then get in the players we have targeted asap before the WC starts, they may be dearer afterwards. Then this would show all that they mean to take us forward, which should settle the players down. We would struggle to replace any of our young stars so it is critical that any offers are repelled quickly. Loosing any of them will loose the fantastic unity that they have.
Not sure what players have been targeted but I would immediately go for Steven Caulker and either Marshall or Ruddy now they have been relegated. That leaves at least one striker or two to sort which will be the most difficult as they will need to be top quality, but should get all in for circa £30m after fringe sales and Osvaldo.
Then we will be set for a Champions league chase next season.
I am not sure that Les Reed, Ralph and the new board have grasped how critical this transfer window is. It will be a difficult one with the World Cup preventing some activity. It will be best to sort the Manager situation out as a matter of Urgency, then get in the players we have targeted asap before the WC starts, they may be dearer afterwards. Then this would show all that they mean to take us forward, which should settle the players down. We would struggle to replace any of our young stars so it is critical that any offers are repelled quickly. Loosing any of them will loose the fantastic unity that they have. Not sure what players have been targeted but I would immediately go for Steven Caulker and either Marshall or Ruddy now they have been relegated. That leaves at least one striker or two to sort which will be the most difficult as they will need to be top quality, but should get all in for circa £30m after fringe sales and Osvaldo. Then we will be set for a Champions league chase next season. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

7:22pm Tue 6 May 14

Clever Dick says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans!
people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them.
as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans?
do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance!
There would only be a very small "inner circle" of people privy to this type of information ,if indeed there is any such information. It would therefore be extremely easy to pinpoint anybody leaking information against the club's wishes. I just hope it isn't Mrs Wilson as it has been reported by Confuscious himself that somebody is trying to poach her along with our entire squad of players. She has been a great servant and I'd hate to see her leaving in disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans![/p][/quote]What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans![/p][/quote]people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them. as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans? do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance![/p][/quote]There would only be a very small "inner circle" of people privy to this type of information ,if indeed there is any such information. It would therefore be extremely easy to pinpoint anybody leaking information against the club's wishes. I just hope it isn't Mrs Wilson as it has been reported by Confuscious himself that somebody is trying to poach her along with our entire squad of players. She has been a great servant and I'd hate to see her leaving in disgrace. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

8:10pm Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans!
people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them.
as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans?
do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance!
I didn't say YOU had abused me, I didn't say people don't have the right to question me. I've no desire to report people, it didn't upset me that much. One person was kind enough to apologise - I respect that. AGAIN I'm NOT looking for an argument with fellow Saints fans. Man United DID deny Moyes was to be sacked....( http://fansided.com/
2014/04/21/mancheste
r-united-denies-repo
rts-david-moyes-will
-sacked/#!JG66M) I'm NOT saying Les Reed has lied to fans. Does that answer all your questions? I merely shared something I heard and then defended myself when I was referred to as a 'Skunt' and a 'Tw&t'! I'm sorry you've taken such exception to my posts and one last time.....I'm not looking for an argument with anyone! Good Night
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans![/p][/quote]What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans![/p][/quote]people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them. as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans? do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance![/p][/quote]I didn't say YOU had abused me, I didn't say people don't have the right to question me. I've no desire to report people, it didn't upset me that much. One person was kind enough to apologise - I respect that. AGAIN I'm NOT looking for an argument with fellow Saints fans. Man United DID deny Moyes was to be sacked....( http://fansided.com/ 2014/04/21/mancheste r-united-denies-repo rts-david-moyes-will -sacked/#!JG66M) I'm NOT saying Les Reed has lied to fans. Does that answer all your questions? I merely shared something I heard and then defended myself when I was referred to as a 'Skunt' and a 'Tw&t'! I'm sorry you've taken such exception to my posts and one last time.....I'm not looking for an argument with anyone! Good Night Reality-man
  • Score: 1

8:17pm Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place!
exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting!
Apologies for the wayward punctuation! Reality-man please watch
http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/27

293914
Can't seem to open this Osprey?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place![/p][/quote]exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting![/p][/quote]Apologies for the wayward punctuation! Reality-man please watch http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 293914[/p][/quote]Can't seem to open this Osprey? Reality-man
  • Score: 1

8:40pm Tue 6 May 14

DisplacedFan says...

I see that Manure is resting their first time ahead of our game next week.
I see that Manure is resting their first time ahead of our game next week. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 1

9:22pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans!
people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them.
as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans?
do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance!
I didn't say YOU had abused me, I didn't say people don't have the right to question me. I've no desire to report people, it didn't upset me that much. One person was kind enough to apologise - I respect that. AGAIN I'm NOT looking for an argument with fellow Saints fans. Man United DID deny Moyes was to be sacked....( http://fansided.com/

2014/04/21/mancheste

r-united-denies-repo

rts-david-moyes-will

-sacked/#!JG66M) I'm NOT saying Les Reed has lied to fans. Does that answer all your questions? I merely shared something I heard and then defended myself when I was referred to as a 'Skunt' and a 'Tw&t'! I'm sorry you've taken such exception to my posts and one last time.....I'm not looking for an argument with anyone! Good Night
im not arguing with you, just pointing out that given a choice between the club officially denying these rumours twice and your `inside info` I will go with the club every time.
don't forget its you who called people naïve for believing the club and was asking for an apology if players are sold.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans![/p][/quote]What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans![/p][/quote]people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them. as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans? do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance![/p][/quote]I didn't say YOU had abused me, I didn't say people don't have the right to question me. I've no desire to report people, it didn't upset me that much. One person was kind enough to apologise - I respect that. AGAIN I'm NOT looking for an argument with fellow Saints fans. Man United DID deny Moyes was to be sacked....( http://fansided.com/ 2014/04/21/mancheste r-united-denies-repo rts-david-moyes-will -sacked/#!JG66M) I'm NOT saying Les Reed has lied to fans. Does that answer all your questions? I merely shared something I heard and then defended myself when I was referred to as a 'Skunt' and a 'Tw&t'! I'm sorry you've taken such exception to my posts and one last time.....I'm not looking for an argument with anyone! Good Night[/p][/quote]im not arguing with you, just pointing out that given a choice between the club officially denying these rumours twice and your `inside info` I will go with the club every time. don't forget its you who called people naïve for believing the club and was asking for an apology if players are sold. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

9:24pm Tue 6 May 14

Costa Baz says...

Rumours are rumours and you choose to believe the ones you want to believe, and ignore those you want to ignore.
For every "in the know" posting that Lallana is going, there is another saying that he is staying.
And they all claim credible sources.
On one forum an "ITK" says he won't be posting anymore as he's buddies (allegedly) with Lallana and was only posting there while he was a Saints player.
On another forum, another "ITK", who is allegedly friends of the family, says he has no worries about the Lallana leaving rumours, as he isn't leaving.

I don't think Reed is lying, about the state of play, but once the window opens, he, like the rest of us, must be in fear of approaches being made.
Yes, he can say the players are under contract and not for sale, but we are still at the mercy of the players staying loyal and not demanding to be allowed to talk to other clubs, once their interest has been public ally announced

With Man City being fined (if they don't appeal it) for breaking the FFP regs, us throwing money at increasing players wages, may not be a viable option.
Unless Krueger can deliver a decent sponsorship deal with one or more companies, that is.
Rumours are rumours and you choose to believe the ones you want to believe, and ignore those you want to ignore. For every "in the know" posting that Lallana is going, there is another saying that he is staying. And they all claim credible sources. On one forum an "ITK" says he won't be posting anymore as he's buddies (allegedly) with Lallana and was only posting there while he was a Saints player. On another forum, another "ITK", who is allegedly friends of the family, says he has no worries about the Lallana leaving rumours, as he isn't leaving. I don't think Reed is lying, about the state of play, but once the window opens, he, like the rest of us, must be in fear of approaches being made. Yes, he can say the players are under contract and not for sale, but we are still at the mercy of the players staying loyal and not demanding to be allowed to talk to other clubs, once their interest has been public ally announced With Man City being fined (if they don't appeal it) for breaking the FFP regs, us throwing money at increasing players wages, may not be a viable option. Unless Krueger can deliver a decent sponsorship deal with one or more companies, that is. Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

9:28pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place!
exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting!
Apologies for the wayward punctuation! Reality-man please watch
http://www.bbc.co.uk


/sport/0/football/27


293914
Can't seem to open this Osprey?
copy and paste then click search (or go) then it might come up with page cant open, look at what you've just pasted and see if there are extra 20% in there, if so delete and reclick on go/search.
if still no joy go to the bbc sport premier league page then click on Southampton in the league table and then you should get there. hope that works for you.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place![/p][/quote]exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting![/p][/quote]Apologies for the wayward punctuation! Reality-man please watch http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 293914[/p][/quote]Can't seem to open this Osprey?[/p][/quote]copy and paste then click search (or go) then it might come up with page cant open, look at what you've just pasted and see if there are extra 20% in there, if so delete and reclick on go/search. if still no joy go to the bbc sport premier league page then click on Southampton in the league table and then you should get there. hope that works for you. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

9:38pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Rumours are rumours and you choose to believe the ones you want to believe, and ignore those you want to ignore.
For every "in the know" posting that Lallana is going, there is another saying that he is staying.
And they all claim credible sources.
On one forum an "ITK" says he won't be posting anymore as he's buddies (allegedly) with Lallana and was only posting there while he was a Saints player.
On another forum, another "ITK", who is allegedly friends of the family, says he has no worries about the Lallana leaving rumours, as he isn't leaving.

I don't think Reed is lying, about the state of play, but once the window opens, he, like the rest of us, must be in fear of approaches being made.
Yes, he can say the players are under contract and not for sale, but we are still at the mercy of the players staying loyal and not demanding to be allowed to talk to other clubs, once their interest has been public ally announced

With Man City being fined (if they don't appeal it) for breaking the FFP regs, us throwing money at increasing players wages, may not be a viable option.
Unless Krueger can deliver a decent sponsorship deal with one or more companies, that is.
mancy got fined for breaking uefa ffp rules, the prem leagues ffp rules are nowhere near as tough.
ive seen pics on facebook of mock up saints shirts and one has pepsi max as sponsor! and both shirts have stripes, well sort off.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Rumours are rumours and you choose to believe the ones you want to believe, and ignore those you want to ignore. For every "in the know" posting that Lallana is going, there is another saying that he is staying. And they all claim credible sources. On one forum an "ITK" says he won't be posting anymore as he's buddies (allegedly) with Lallana and was only posting there while he was a Saints player. On another forum, another "ITK", who is allegedly friends of the family, says he has no worries about the Lallana leaving rumours, as he isn't leaving. I don't think Reed is lying, about the state of play, but once the window opens, he, like the rest of us, must be in fear of approaches being made. Yes, he can say the players are under contract and not for sale, but we are still at the mercy of the players staying loyal and not demanding to be allowed to talk to other clubs, once their interest has been public ally announced With Man City being fined (if they don't appeal it) for breaking the FFP regs, us throwing money at increasing players wages, may not be a viable option. Unless Krueger can deliver a decent sponsorship deal with one or more companies, that is.[/p][/quote]mancy got fined for breaking uefa ffp rules, the prem leagues ffp rules are nowhere near as tough. ive seen pics on facebook of mock up saints shirts and one has pepsi max as sponsor! and both shirts have stripes, well sort off. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

10:26pm Tue 6 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts.

Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.
Reminds me a bit of 1982 when Keegan and Channon were here (along with the likes of Chris Nicholl and a host of decent academy players - Williams, Waldron, Moran, Graham Baker ....). K&C urged Mac to get Frank Worthington in as 'the last piece of the jigsaw' but Mac wouldn't (or couldn't) do it. Worthington signed for a season for Sunderland and Baker was sold to finance the buying of Shilton, but K&C left in anger before the 82-3 season had begun and we started the season with thrashings at Anfield and the Lane. Worthington finally arrived a year later for the 1983-4 season and we finished 2nd and should have won the FA Cup.

If only, eh?
I know it was a long time ago, but that is not only a seriously inaccurate representation of what happened but omits the 1982-83 season.
These events are covered in “In That Number” (Hagiology Publishing, 2003).
Dave, I've a lot of time for the club's historians and what you do but the use of your phrase 'seriously inaccurate representation' and then nothing to back it up is, to be frank, pretty sh!tty. From one of those involved (no names or sources from me I'm afraid), Frank was begging to come because he was in need of a move and fancied joining up with K&C. K&C got wind of it and told Mac that all he needed to do was call and Frank would be there. Alas, Saints stalled and Sunderland poached him for a season. As for what happened in 82-3, please tell more as to what it has to do with anything I've written? The point I made is that on the back of a lack of investment at the end of 81-2 (yes, I know we bought Shilton, who needed to leave Forest for personal reasons). Had they been happy, they would have stayed for 82-3 and, thus, 83-4. Imagine the team of 84 if those 2 had still been there. In terms of today, the comparison is pretty obvious. We're on the verge of something special and, like '82, things right now could go either way.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Fair point but we don't want Premier League survival we want to make a push for the top, that is the vision we have been sold and that is the vision that lead to MoPo joining the club and the players signing contracts. Warrens is spot on. Anyone else building a squad like ours has to shell out zillions, most of ours were free from the academy or cheap from League 1 and Championship days. The additions required - not identified by me but the players themselves - need to be acquired to keep this incredible story going.[/p][/quote]Reminds me a bit of 1982 when Keegan and Channon were here (along with the likes of Chris Nicholl and a host of decent academy players - Williams, Waldron, Moran, Graham Baker ....). K&C urged Mac to get Frank Worthington in as 'the last piece of the jigsaw' but Mac wouldn't (or couldn't) do it. Worthington signed for a season for Sunderland and Baker was sold to finance the buying of Shilton, but K&C left in anger before the 82-3 season had begun and we started the season with thrashings at Anfield and the Lane. Worthington finally arrived a year later for the 1983-4 season and we finished 2nd and should have won the FA Cup. If only, eh?[/p][/quote]I know it was a long time ago, but that is not only a seriously inaccurate representation of what happened but omits the 1982-83 season. These events are covered in “In That Number” (Hagiology Publishing, 2003).[/p][/quote]Dave, I've a lot of time for the club's historians and what you do but the use of your phrase 'seriously inaccurate representation' and then nothing to back it up is, to be frank, pretty sh!tty. From one of those involved (no names or sources from me I'm afraid), Frank was begging to come because he was in need of a move and fancied joining up with K&C. K&C got wind of it and told Mac that all he needed to do was call and Frank would be there. Alas, Saints stalled and Sunderland poached him for a season. As for what happened in 82-3, please tell more as to what it has to do with anything I've written? The point I made is that on the back of a lack of investment at the end of 81-2 (yes, I know we bought Shilton, who needed to leave Forest for personal reasons). Had they been happy, they would have stayed for 82-3 and, thus, 83-4. Imagine the team of 84 if those 2 had still been there. In terms of today, the comparison is pretty obvious. We're on the verge of something special and, like '82, things right now could go either way. Strasbourg Saint
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10:53pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Poole Tom wrote:
I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him.
Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.
Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place!
exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting!
Apologies for the wayward punctuation! Reality-man please watch
http://www.bbc.co.uk



/sport/0/football/27



293914
Can't seem to open this Osprey?
copy and paste then click search (or go) then it might come up with page cant open, look at what you've just pasted and see if there are extra 20% in there, if so delete and reclick on go/search.
if still no joy go to the bbc sport premier league page then click on Southampton in the league table and then you should get there. hope that works for you.
You need to cut and paste, once it is in the box make sure all of the spaces are closed up before searching.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poole Tom[/bold] wrote: I think that Liverpool have shown the rest of the league the way forward by keeping hold of Suarez last summer even though he clearly wanted to leave. As a consequence with only one game to go they could still win the league this season which I don`t believe would have been the case if they had sold him. Our star players are generally under long term contracts. Keep them and we are probably more or less guaranteed Premier League survival at worst for perhaps another three years even with only limited further investment. Sell them and we could easily waste the transfer fees received on sub standard players in the way that Spurs wasted the Bale money. We could then find ourselves fighting relegation or even getting relegated this time next year. Don`t forget WBA finished in eighth place last year and they nearly went down this season even though the only player of note that they lost last summer was Lukaka.[/p][/quote]Relegation scaps can be quite exiting, 17th or over will do me, but naturally I expect more than that. Being safe too soon could get quite tedious if we are not pushing for a Europe place![/p][/quote]exiting they could b,e but I meant exciting![/p][/quote]Apologies for the wayward punctuation! Reality-man please watch http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 293914[/p][/quote]Can't seem to open this Osprey?[/p][/quote]copy and paste then click search (or go) then it might come up with page cant open, look at what you've just pasted and see if there are extra 20% in there, if so delete and reclick on go/search. if still no joy go to the bbc sport premier league page then click on Southampton in the league table and then you should get there. hope that works for you.[/p][/quote]You need to cut and paste, once it is in the box make sure all of the spaces are closed up before searching. OSPREYSAINT
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10:55pm Tue 6 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.
Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

11:00pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.
looked to me that he got a bit chocked up when asked what the club meant to him. he also said that he hopes the club can progress to the next step over the summer. I think if MP signs, and adam couldn't say enough about him tonight, then the squad are likely to sick together.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.[/p][/quote]looked to me that he got a bit chocked up when asked what the club meant to him. he also said that he hopes the club can progress to the next step over the summer. I think if MP signs, and adam couldn't say enough about him tonight, then the squad are likely to sick together. el caballo santos101
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11:05pm Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players!
you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back.
do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total?
i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans!
What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans!
people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them.
as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans?
do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance!
I didn't say YOU had abused me, I didn't say people don't have the right to question me. I've no desire to report people, it didn't upset me that much. One person was kind enough to apologise - I respect that. AGAIN I'm NOT looking for an argument with fellow Saints fans. Man United DID deny Moyes was to be sacked....( http://fansided.com/


2014/04/21/mancheste


r-united-denies-repo


rts-david-moyes-will


-sacked/#!JG66M) I'm NOT saying Les Reed has lied to fans. Does that answer all your questions? I merely shared something I heard and then defended myself when I was referred to as a 'Skunt' and a 'Tw&t'! I'm sorry you've taken such exception to my posts and one last time.....I'm not looking for an argument with anyone! Good Night
im not arguing with you, just pointing out that given a choice between the club officially denying these rumours twice and your `inside info` I will go with the club every time.
don't forget its you who called people naïve for believing the club and was asking for an apology if players are sold.
Fair enough, I genuinely think you misunderstood my intentions. I only asked for an apology in relation to the initial abuse I received. I really hope the season starts and you are proved to be correct! Anyway just been watching the saints awards live on you tube for the last two hours. AWESOME watch, Adam cleaned up. A few things he said worried me but also said he was looking forward to pushing on with Saints so who knows?! If you didn't see it I guess it will be shown as a recording on you tube .A must watch for all Saints fans. Skunts and tw&ts need not watch ;-)
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: Reality-Man, what you said was they are gone `done deal` now you are saying that you heard it from a `reliable source`. well what do expect as a response when the man in charge was on tv last night saying that there are NO done deal and there wasn't even any contact about our players! you are also now saying that people are naïve not to think that other clubs have illegally approached our players behind our clubs back. do you think the players have been approached by other clubs? or tapping up as its called! do you then think the players have agreed contracts etc with those clubs without those clubs having agreed a price with our club and therefore knowing how much they have to pay in total? i think that its you who are being very naïve if you think that constant rumours like yours aren't going to be questioned by saints fans![/p][/quote]What do I expect as a response? Maybe not to be abused? I heard what I believed to be reliable info so decided to share it. You don't have to believe it, and are all free to believe what you like. I was just a little surprised that so many are pointing to quotes from various people saying no approaches have been made and therefor concluding that this must mean no deals have been done. We all heard how David Moyes had lost his job the day before it happened and the day before he knew! The club came out and denied it. MoPo let slip when he joined that he had been approached several weeks before Nigel Adkins was sacked. I'm just a little surprised that people seem to think that it's not possible that deals may already be lined up. I'm not looking for a fight with any fellow Saints fans![/p][/quote]people have every right to question your statement, i haven't abused you and others can post what they like, if you don't like it you have the option of reporting them. as for your comparisons they are not even in the same ballpark. firstly moyes sacking was leaked but no one at utd denied it, they just kept quiet, whereas the man in charge at saints has twice publicly stated that no deals are done and no clubs have approached us. secondly MP was a free agent and whilst it might have been unfair to NA no laws were broken. if as you are trying to say, clubs have done deals and signed our players behind our clubs back then they have broken football rules, even if they have tried to speak to them or their agents! and as such the deals become invalid and the other clubs will be hammered by the prem/fa! or are you saying that les reed has twice deliberately lied to the fans? if he has do you think that would go down well with the fans? do i think any of our players have done deals with other clubs? not a chance![/p][/quote]I didn't say YOU had abused me, I didn't say people don't have the right to question me. I've no desire to report people, it didn't upset me that much. One person was kind enough to apologise - I respect that. AGAIN I'm NOT looking for an argument with fellow Saints fans. Man United DID deny Moyes was to be sacked....( http://fansided.com/ 2014/04/21/mancheste r-united-denies-repo rts-david-moyes-will -sacked/#!JG66M) I'm NOT saying Les Reed has lied to fans. Does that answer all your questions? I merely shared something I heard and then defended myself when I was referred to as a 'Skunt' and a 'Tw&t'! I'm sorry you've taken such exception to my posts and one last time.....I'm not looking for an argument with anyone! Good Night[/p][/quote]im not arguing with you, just pointing out that given a choice between the club officially denying these rumours twice and your `inside info` I will go with the club every time. don't forget its you who called people naïve for believing the club and was asking for an apology if players are sold.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, I genuinely think you misunderstood my intentions. I only asked for an apology in relation to the initial abuse I received. I really hope the season starts and you are proved to be correct! Anyway just been watching the saints awards live on you tube for the last two hours. AWESOME watch, Adam cleaned up. A few things he said worried me but also said he was looking forward to pushing on with Saints so who knows?! If you didn't see it I guess it will be shown as a recording on you tube .A must watch for all Saints fans. Skunts and tw&ts need not watch ;-) Reality-man
  • Score: 0

11:07pm Tue 6 May 14

Reality-man says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.
Best 2 hours tv I've watched in a long time
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.[/p][/quote]Best 2 hours tv I've watched in a long time Reality-man
  • Score: 1

11:23pm Tue 6 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.
Best 2 hours tv I've watched in a long time
Yes I did watch the awards and as I said to osprey I thought lalla got choked up when asked what the club meant to him. I genuinely believe that he wants to stay but wants the club to want to progress, I think he will only look to leave if the club don't show the ambition to get to the next level.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.[/p][/quote]Best 2 hours tv I've watched in a long time[/p][/quote]Yes I did watch the awards and as I said to osprey I thought lalla got choked up when asked what the club meant to him. I genuinely believe that he wants to stay but wants the club to want to progress, I think he will only look to leave if the club don't show the ambition to get to the next level. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

11:11am Wed 7 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.
Best 2 hours tv I've watched in a long time
Yes I did watch the awards and as I said to osprey I thought lalla got choked up when asked what the club meant to him. I genuinely believe that he wants to stay but wants the club to want to progress, I think he will only look to leave if the club don't show the ambition to get to the next level.
Precisely! All these Saints players are here because Cortese sold them the dream and ambition of the club. They all bought into it. Now it's up to the new guard to convince MP that the ambitions remain and we can achieve big things if everyone stays together!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.[/p][/quote]Best 2 hours tv I've watched in a long time[/p][/quote]Yes I did watch the awards and as I said to osprey I thought lalla got choked up when asked what the club meant to him. I genuinely believe that he wants to stay but wants the club to want to progress, I think he will only look to leave if the club don't show the ambition to get to the next level.[/p][/quote]Precisely! All these Saints players are here because Cortese sold them the dream and ambition of the club. They all bought into it. Now it's up to the new guard to convince MP that the ambitions remain and we can achieve big things if everyone stays together! allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 1

12:26pm Wed 7 May 14

hedge end bob says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.
I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world
Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.
Thank you Ospers. you put it much better than i could..
Reality man , people like yourself that post because your best friends cousin said blah blah blah , really gets me going If you can not say Luke told me this and that don't say anything, unless you are one of the posters that says twenty different things are going to happen and hopes one comes true.
We are not daft enough to think there will not be movement in and out of the club this summer. That in itself is an insult too us, see we all do it, all we ask is wait until the club makes the statement no your buddy.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.[/p][/quote]I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world[/p][/quote]Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.[/p][/quote]Thank you Ospers. you put it much better than i could.. Reality man , people like yourself that post because your best friends cousin said blah blah blah , really gets me going If you can not say Luke told me this and that don't say anything, unless you are one of the posters that says twenty different things are going to happen and hopes one comes true. We are not daft enough to think there will not be movement in and out of the club this summer. That in itself is an insult too us, see we all do it, all we ask is wait until the club makes the statement no your buddy. hedge end bob
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4:03pm Wed 7 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

If you still haven't been able to watch the coverage, not606 Southampton has it on one of their threads, Message #232 on the LIVE: SFC Awards 2014 thread, a lot of good discussion to go with it.
If you still haven't been able to watch the coverage, not606 Southampton has it on one of their threads, Message #232 on the LIVE: SFC Awards 2014 thread, a lot of good discussion to go with it. OSPREYSAINT
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4:13pm Wed 7 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.
Best 2 hours tv I've watched in a long time
Yes I did watch the awards and as I said to osprey I thought lalla got choked up when asked what the club meant to him. I genuinely believe that he wants to stay but wants the club to want to progress, I think he will only look to leave if the club don't show the ambition to get to the next level.
Yes, just had another look at the footage, and Lala got a bit emotional when asked what the Club meant to him, I think he seemed disappointed that someone asked the question, as it has been fairly obviou,s that he wears his heart on his sleeve when it comes to the Club that gave him his chance in life. If he left, it would be massive for him and he should be left to make that decision based on where he perceives that his future will lie. He could do a lot worse than staying here.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Just watched the Awards and Adam has got 4 of the Trophies! Jack Cork got the Presidents Pick and Jake Hesketh is Scholar of the Year, he signed forms today. Adam gave no indication that he wants to leave.[/p][/quote]Best 2 hours tv I've watched in a long time[/p][/quote]Yes I did watch the awards and as I said to osprey I thought lalla got choked up when asked what the club meant to him. I genuinely believe that he wants to stay but wants the club to want to progress, I think he will only look to leave if the club don't show the ambition to get to the next level.[/p][/quote]Yes, just had another look at the footage, and Lala got a bit emotional when asked what the Club meant to him, I think he seemed disappointed that someone asked the question, as it has been fairly obviou,s that he wears his heart on his sleeve when it comes to the Club that gave him his chance in life. If he left, it would be massive for him and he should be left to make that decision based on where he perceives that his future will lie. He could do a lot worse than staying here. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:12pm Wed 7 May 14

Reality-man says...

hedge end bob wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.
I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world
Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.
Thank you Ospers. you put it much better than i could..
Reality man , people like yourself that post because your best friends cousin said blah blah blah , really gets me going If you can not say Luke told me this and that don't say anything, unless you are one of the posters that says twenty different things are going to happen and hopes one comes true.
We are not daft enough to think there will not be movement in and out of the club this summer. That in itself is an insult too us, see we all do it, all we ask is wait until the club makes the statement no your buddy.
'people like me' lol,

Oh well an improvement on calling me a tw&t I guess? I hope to god my original statement turns out to be a load of old tosh!! Up the Saints
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.[/p][/quote]I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world[/p][/quote]Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.[/p][/quote]Thank you Ospers. you put it much better than i could.. Reality man , people like yourself that post because your best friends cousin said blah blah blah , really gets me going If you can not say Luke told me this and that don't say anything, unless you are one of the posters that says twenty different things are going to happen and hopes one comes true. We are not daft enough to think there will not be movement in and out of the club this summer. That in itself is an insult too us, see we all do it, all we ask is wait until the club makes the statement no your buddy.[/p][/quote]'people like me' lol, Oh well an improvement on calling me a tw&t I guess? I hope to god my original statement turns out to be a load of old tosh!! Up the Saints Reality-man
  • Score: -3

10:28pm Wed 7 May 14

hedge end bob says...

Reality-man wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.
I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world
Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.
Thank you Ospers. you put it much better than i could..
Reality man , people like yourself that post because your best friends cousin said blah blah blah , really gets me going If you can not say Luke told me this and that don't say anything, unless you are one of the posters that says twenty different things are going to happen and hopes one comes true.
We are not daft enough to think there will not be movement in and out of the club this summer. That in itself is an insult too us, see we all do it, all we ask is wait until the club makes the statement no your buddy.
'people like me' lol,

Oh well an improvement on calling me a tw&t I guess? I hope to god my original statement turns out to be a load of old tosh!! Up the Saints
Who said anything about changing my mind about how i see you, not me for sure lol!!!!! Keep posting your old tosh,everybody has that right but in most cases it is interesting points of view.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.[/p][/quote]I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world[/p][/quote]Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.[/p][/quote]Thank you Ospers. you put it much better than i could.. Reality man , people like yourself that post because your best friends cousin said blah blah blah , really gets me going If you can not say Luke told me this and that don't say anything, unless you are one of the posters that says twenty different things are going to happen and hopes one comes true. We are not daft enough to think there will not be movement in and out of the club this summer. That in itself is an insult too us, see we all do it, all we ask is wait until the club makes the statement no your buddy.[/p][/quote]'people like me' lol, Oh well an improvement on calling me a tw&t I guess? I hope to god my original statement turns out to be a load of old tosh!! Up the Saints[/p][/quote]Who said anything about changing my mind about how i see you, not me for sure lol!!!!! Keep posting your old tosh,everybody has that right but in most cases it is interesting points of view. hedge end bob
  • Score: 3

10:56pm Wed 7 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Reality-man wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Reality-man wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted
Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?
Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.
Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.
Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.
I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world
Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.
Thank you Ospers. you put it much better than i could..
Reality man , people like yourself that post because your best friends cousin said blah blah blah , really gets me going If you can not say Luke told me this and that don't say anything, unless you are one of the posters that says twenty different things are going to happen and hopes one comes true.
We are not daft enough to think there will not be movement in and out of the club this summer. That in itself is an insult too us, see we all do it, all we ask is wait until the club makes the statement no your buddy.
'people like me' lol,

Oh well an improvement on calling me a tw&t I guess? I hope to god my original statement turns out to be a load of old tosh!! Up the Saints
No, actually people "don't like you". Just have a think why that might be?
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: Lallana, Shaw and Morgan done deals. Gutted[/p][/quote]Are you their agent or a senior member of the club? How do you know this?[/p][/quote]Skunt on a wind-up, don't worry about it.[/p][/quote]Not a 'skunt'. Been a regular on here for years. Carry on abusing me. I didn't want to believe it either. I'll accept your apologies when proved correct.[/p][/quote]Isn't it your own fault that you are getting abused, you are telling us things that we don't want to hear, so it is only logical that the defense mechanism kicks in and you get a response that that you don't like, what did you expect, praise? As I said before, say the same things over and over and eventually you will get one right, Players come, Players go, Managers are chosen, Managers are sacked, the Club and its supporters carry on regardless, we get upset, we get over it and move on.[/p][/quote]I appreciate your comment. I didn't post it for praise. Was informed yesterday by a very reliable source so thought I would share it. I'm a huge Saints fan have been for nearly 40 years. I was gutted when I heard it and hope to god the info is wrong! My worry now is that MoPo is offski too and maybe these players know that? Because up until I heard this I thought if MoPo stayed, why would they want to leave? I guess Champions league is the answer? I heard Lallana - Liverpool, Morgan - Arsenal and Shaw to Chelsea. But thanks to Hedge End Bob for calling me a tw&t and Jan the 28th for calling me a skunt. I hope to god I am proved wrong but if you are all naïve enough to belive that when the club says no approach has been made this means the players haven't been approached then please continue to enjoy living in your nice honest and decent world[/p][/quote]Shouldn't judge others by your own low standards, post what you like, it is a free Forum, but try thinking about how upsetting it is for others when you post unsubstantiated rumours, especially those which later prove to be hogwash. I prefer to believe Mr Reed when he says there are no ongoing negotiations, he said that there may be some movements, but couldn't be drawn on any that are in the pipeline. None of us are naive enough not to be aware of anything that might happen, but would prefer just to hear from the Official sources rather than idle speculation. Newspapers make things up when they haven't got the facts, there is no need for others to jump on the bandwagon. If you somehow get pleasure out of posting negative rumours and are even happier when they come true, I suggest you are not a very nice person to know, and in my own opinion not worthy of supporting the best Club on the South Coast. It is the kind of behaviour I would expect from the other end of the M27.[/p][/quote]Thank you Ospers. you put it much better than i could.. Reality man , people like yourself that post because your best friends cousin said blah blah blah , really gets me going If you can not say Luke told me this and that don't say anything, unless you are one of the posters that says twenty different things are going to happen and hopes one comes true. We are not daft enough to think there will not be movement in and out of the club this summer. That in itself is an insult too us, see we all do it, all we ask is wait until the club makes the statement no your buddy.[/p][/quote]'people like me' lol, Oh well an improvement on calling me a tw&t I guess? I hope to god my original statement turns out to be a load of old tosh!! Up the Saints[/p][/quote]No, actually people "don't like you". Just have a think why that might be? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

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