Les Reed makes statement about Mauricio Pochettino and Southampton FC

Les Reed

Les Reed

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Saints director Les Reed has taken the unusual step of addressing the media before Mauricio Pochettino's weekly pre-match press match conference to try and quell speculation.

Reed, who confirmed he is charge of all football matters at Saints and consults daily with Pochettino, insisted that the club had received no offers for any players, and did not intend a firesale this summer.

He labelled speculation that some big name players are on the verge of agreeing deals for mega money moves as “misinformed.”

Reed also said that both he and Pochettino were comfortable with the manager’s contract situation, but it still looks unlikely to be discussed further until the summer.

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9:20am Fri 25 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -43

9:22am Fri 25 Apr 14

Andover Saint says...

Good
Good Andover Saint
  • Score: 26

9:29am Fri 25 Apr 14

StElsass says...

It can hardly be much clearer, can't it?
Queue all the comments about what he didn't say and what he actually meant by saying that.
In fact, I see it's already started...
It can hardly be much clearer, can't it? Queue all the comments about what he didn't say and what he actually meant by saying that. In fact, I see it's already started... StElsass
  • Score: 19

9:31am Fri 25 Apr 14

costa gaz says...

Does this mean that all the DONE DEALS are not actually done and that the Daily Mirror has got it wrong again...
Looks like we might be able to field 11 players at the start of next season and Alan Pardew, Dan Petrescu, David Moyes, Roberto Di Matteo will not be in charge

Certain papers, who used to be quite friendly towards us are now stirring like never before.
Does this mean that all the DONE DEALS are not actually done and that the Daily Mirror has got it wrong again... Looks like we might be able to field 11 players at the start of next season and Alan Pardew, Dan Petrescu, David Moyes, Roberto Di Matteo will not be in charge Certain papers, who used to be quite friendly towards us are now stirring like never before. costa gaz
  • Score: 22

9:33am Fri 25 Apr 14

bathsaints says...

At the end of the day even if we have all the positive comments in the world and spoken commitments it won't take away from speculation and our players and manager being linked with a move away. I see Adam, Luke and Morgan and Callum all linked again with moves away in the last 24 hours. This is to be expected as we have continued to move upwards. Obviously we would like all the players and all at the club to commit but I anticipate this will continue throughout the summer and every time a transfer window opens so we just need to strap in and enjoy the ride. 3 games left to get some good results this season, hopefully some saints players at the world cup and then the ups and downs of the summer transfer window..that's football..still great to be supporting the saints....
At the end of the day even if we have all the positive comments in the world and spoken commitments it won't take away from speculation and our players and manager being linked with a move away. I see Adam, Luke and Morgan and Callum all linked again with moves away in the last 24 hours. This is to be expected as we have continued to move upwards. Obviously we would like all the players and all at the club to commit but I anticipate this will continue throughout the summer and every time a transfer window opens so we just need to strap in and enjoy the ride. 3 games left to get some good results this season, hopefully some saints players at the world cup and then the ups and downs of the summer transfer window..that's football..still great to be supporting the saints.... bathsaints
  • Score: 24

9:42am Fri 25 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Is it possible that the Echo can take notice of the statement from Les Reed and stop all of the NEGATIVE reports
Is it possible that the Echo can take notice of the statement from Les Reed and stop all of the NEGATIVE reports Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 21

9:50am Fri 25 Apr 14

andoru says...

Not bad. I would have preferred a more explicit "Man Utd ... F off," but not bad.
Not bad. I would have preferred a more explicit "Man Utd ... F off," but not bad. andoru
  • Score: 36

9:50am Fri 25 Apr 14

Alicesdad says...

I don't know what's going on. What's happening ?
I don't know what's going on. What's happening ? Alicesdad
  • Score: -7

9:51am Fri 25 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

Why is there no redress or questions against papers that continually stir the pot and act as a cats paw for the big clubs…

Surely to print these stories when they are false and can be shown to be false is libelous, on the one hand no one wants to take on the media for fear of the backlash so maybe the FA, PFA or managers association should step in.
Why is there no redress or questions against papers that continually stir the pot and act as a cats paw for the big clubs… Surely to print these stories when they are false and can be shown to be false is libelous, on the one hand no one wants to take on the media for fear of the backlash so maybe the FA, PFA or managers association should step in. warrens 76
  • Score: 8

10:07am Fri 25 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

I think its a very clear statement of intent, and one people have been asking for.
firstly, MP has always said that he will not sort out his own contract until the end of the season, that's still the case and we now have the reasons for it. there is too much planning to be done to hit the transfer market running, targets are being looked at and evaluated all the time. this is the time to do that, not when the window opens and we might be put on a back foot.
secondly, MP and the board are planning for the future, a future that will include all of the players that MP wants to keep. the board cant say that no players will be sold because Osvaldo and Fox are as good as gone and there may be a fringe player or 2 who will also be allowed to leave, Guly or Mayuka.
and lastly, all of those press reports about luke, and others, being as good as sold with the deals all but done are, as most of us on here have been saying, total carp! and are just attempts by certain `big` clubs to unsettle our players in the hope they will put in transfer requests.
I see this statement as being very positive, players not for sale, targets being looked at, planning being done for the future and a future with MP, and the club looking to improve our current position next season.
I know there will sill be some who will try to say "but he didn't say" "sign MP now" etc etc.
I think its a very clear statement of intent, and one people have been asking for. firstly, MP has always said that he will not sort out his own contract until the end of the season, that's still the case and we now have the reasons for it. there is too much planning to be done to hit the transfer market running, targets are being looked at and evaluated all the time. this is the time to do that, not when the window opens and we might be put on a back foot. secondly, MP and the board are planning for the future, a future that will include all of the players that MP wants to keep. the board cant say that no players will be sold because Osvaldo and Fox are as good as gone and there may be a fringe player or 2 who will also be allowed to leave, Guly or Mayuka. and lastly, all of those press reports about luke, and others, being as good as sold with the deals all but done are, as most of us on here have been saying, total carp! and are just attempts by certain `big` clubs to unsettle our players in the hope they will put in transfer requests. I see this statement as being very positive, players not for sale, targets being looked at, planning being done for the future and a future with MP, and the club looking to improve our current position next season. I know there will sill be some who will try to say "but he didn't say" "sign MP now" etc etc. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 16

10:11am Fri 25 Apr 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I don't know what's going on. What's happening ?
I don't know.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I don't know what's going on. What's happening ?[/p][/quote]I don't know. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

10:14am Fri 25 Apr 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

I take that as an extremely positive statement. Well done Reed! Saints are here to stay and are only looking to get better next season. We didn't work hard to finish as high as 8th this season to go and help strengthen our competitors and make it even harder next season! We will move on the players we want to not that other clubs want simple as that!

Roll on the World Cup and the Saints boys in Brazil!
I take that as an extremely positive statement. Well done Reed! Saints are here to stay and are only looking to get better next season. We didn't work hard to finish as high as 8th this season to go and help strengthen our competitors and make it even harder next season! We will move on the players we want to not that other clubs want simple as that! Roll on the World Cup and the Saints boys in Brazil! allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 13

10:25am Fri 25 Apr 14

SiamSaint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
Ah. That was irony, right?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.[/p][/quote]Ah. That was irony, right? SiamSaint
  • Score: 6

10:27am Fri 25 Apr 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
I think it's a great statement. Everyone is working together to keep the momentum going and take this club even further... Seems very positive to me!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.[/p][/quote]I think it's a great statement. Everyone is working together to keep the momentum going and take this club even further... Seems very positive to me! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 10

10:29am Fri 25 Apr 14

richard903 says...

Thank you sir les Reed, its my birthday today and this is the best birthday present I could have recieved , one happy saints surporter "come on you saints" "Potty Chino's red army"
Thank you sir les Reed, its my birthday today and this is the best birthday present I could have recieved , one happy saints surporter "come on you saints" "Potty Chino's red army" richard903
  • Score: 0

10:29am Fri 25 Apr 14

SaintJD says...

Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.
Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him. SaintJD
  • Score: -1

10:31am Fri 25 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
Perhaps you should write to him and ask him for an exclusive personalised statement, just for you. I am sure he would oblige you.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.[/p][/quote]Perhaps you should write to him and ask him for an exclusive personalised statement, just for you. I am sure he would oblige you. george chivers
  • Score: 4

10:33am Fri 25 Apr 14

invictus says...

Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision? invictus
  • Score: -6

10:33am Fri 25 Apr 14

Buddy SFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
I cannot think of a more meaningful or positive statement of intent, EVER from any club !

The future is REALLY bright , The future is RED & WHITE !
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.[/p][/quote]I cannot think of a more meaningful or positive statement of intent, EVER from any club ! The future is REALLY bright , The future is RED & WHITE ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

10:34am Fri 25 Apr 14

Buddy SFC says...

I cannot think of a more meaningful or positive statement of intent, EVER from any club !

The future is REALLY bright , The future is RED & WHITE !
I cannot think of a more meaningful or positive statement of intent, EVER from any club ! The future is REALLY bright , The future is RED & WHITE ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

10:35am Fri 25 Apr 14

ToastyTea says...

Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere. ToastyTea
  • Score: -23

10:40am Fri 25 Apr 14

aldermoorboy says...

Good news
Good news aldermoorboy
  • Score: 0

10:42am Fri 25 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

SaintJD wrote:
Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.
no one can `come in` without the permission of the club, MP still has a year of his current contract to run so there really is no rush. if MP doesn't want to talk about a contract yet it would be foolish of the club to pressure him.
like you I wish it would just get sorted and the sooner the better, I think though we will just have to wait for another few weeks.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.[/p][/quote]no one can `come in` without the permission of the club, MP still has a year of his current contract to run so there really is no rush. if MP doesn't want to talk about a contract yet it would be foolish of the club to pressure him. like you I wish it would just get sorted and the sooner the better, I think though we will just have to wait for another few weeks. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

10:51am Fri 25 Apr 14

Positively4thStreet says...

ToastyTea wrote:
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
The hearing has been put back till November the fifth,but they may be let off before then.
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.[/p][/quote]The hearing has been put back till November the fifth,but they may be let off before then. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 12

10:55am Fri 25 Apr 14

saint christopher says...

Everyone will have their own opinion about the comings and goings that might happen in the summer. For what its worth I've got to the stage where I can't take anymore and am happy for someone to wake me up when it's all over and done with.

The board has said as much as it could and all we can do is enjoy the resmainder of the season and the World Cup, and in between see where this club is going - which will NOT be defined by people's words, however sincere and well meant, but by their decisions and actions. Everyone involved is an individual with their own priorties and susceptibilities to outside inducements, and at the end of the day no-one - manager or player - is bigger than the club.
Everyone will have their own opinion about the comings and goings that might happen in the summer. For what its worth I've got to the stage where I can't take anymore and am happy for someone to wake me up when it's all over and done with. The board has said as much as it could and all we can do is enjoy the resmainder of the season and the World Cup, and in between see where this club is going - which will NOT be defined by people's words, however sincere and well meant, but by their decisions and actions. Everyone involved is an individual with their own priorties and susceptibilities to outside inducements, and at the end of the day no-one - manager or player - is bigger than the club. saint christopher
  • Score: 4

11:00am Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
I am beginning to suspect that you posted this with tongue firmly in cheek?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.[/p][/quote]I am beginning to suspect that you posted this with tongue firmly in cheek? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:03am Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

QUOTE: "For what its worth I've got to the stage where I can't take anymore and am happy for someone to wake me up.
" I am also glad when I wake up, it means I am still alive and able to support my Club". Through thick or thin, KEEP CALM and support SOUTHAMPTON FC.
QUOTE: "For what its worth I've got to the stage where I can't take anymore and am happy for someone to wake me up. " I am also glad when I wake up, it means I am still alive and able to support my Club". Through thick or thin, KEEP CALM and support SOUTHAMPTON FC. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:58am Fri 25 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
[quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

12:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

SaintJD says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.
no one can `come in` without the permission of the club, MP still has a year of his current contract to run so there really is no rush. if MP doesn't want to talk about a contract yet it would be foolish of the club to pressure him.
like you I wish it would just get sorted and the sooner the better, I think though we will just have to wait for another few weeks.
I like your belief in good old fashioned ethics, but having had experience of pitching to existing clients as an incumbent I know that everything can be wonderful and settled and everyone can say the right things, but it is harder to show your will to keep someone if they are familiar with them.

I'm not being negative, just realistic. Everyone knows that MP joining, say, Spurs, would be a bad move for everyone, not least him, but if Levy gets the chance to show off his lovely impressive models of his new stadium and sell in a vision of going for the title alla Liverpool it would be easy to get drawn in (clearly then getting sacked within the year).

Being calm and patient is great and I sincerely hope both sides are calm and patient because they don't see a future anywhere else, but there is a risk of calmness and patience being mistaken for complacency.

Football is full of sharks and people who are willing to bash down your door and make it very clear how much they will offer, sometimes not via the official route, to get their man. So I don't think you can necessarily count on doing things in a gentlemanly way when you have the likes of Levy hanging around.

I'm not saying we necessarily are, but we can't afford to be naive. We're competing at a different level now and the rules are different. I hope the board appreciates that (while trying to do things the right way).
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.[/p][/quote]no one can `come in` without the permission of the club, MP still has a year of his current contract to run so there really is no rush. if MP doesn't want to talk about a contract yet it would be foolish of the club to pressure him. like you I wish it would just get sorted and the sooner the better, I think though we will just have to wait for another few weeks.[/p][/quote]I like your belief in good old fashioned ethics, but having had experience of pitching to existing clients as an incumbent I know that everything can be wonderful and settled and everyone can say the right things, but it is harder to show your will to keep someone if they are familiar with them. I'm not being negative, just realistic. Everyone knows that MP joining, say, Spurs, would be a bad move for everyone, not least him, but if Levy gets the chance to show off his lovely impressive models of his new stadium and sell in a vision of going for the title alla Liverpool it would be easy to get drawn in (clearly then getting sacked within the year). Being calm and patient is great and I sincerely hope both sides are calm and patient because they don't see a future anywhere else, but there is a risk of calmness and patience being mistaken for complacency. Football is full of sharks and people who are willing to bash down your door and make it very clear how much they will offer, sometimes not via the official route, to get their man. So I don't think you can necessarily count on doing things in a gentlemanly way when you have the likes of Levy hanging around. I'm not saying we necessarily are, but we can't afford to be naive. We're competing at a different level now and the rules are different. I hope the board appreciates that (while trying to do things the right way). SaintJD
  • Score: -1

12:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Good statement from Les Reed, very clear and with no room for misinterpretation...
.........unless you're an argumentative so-and-so who is cynical about everything.
Good statement from Les Reed, very clear and with no room for misinterpretation... .........unless you're an argumentative so-and-so who is cynical about everything. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 8

12:23pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Saint. says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Is it possible that the Echo can take notice of the statement from Les Reed and stop all of the NEGATIVE reports
Says it all DE!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Is it possible that the Echo can take notice of the statement from Les Reed and stop all of the NEGATIVE reports[/p][/quote]Says it all DE!!! Saint.
  • Score: 2

12:38pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Good move by Les that.

Should keep the speculation down for a week or two....then stand by for the same old repetitive media drivel.
Good move by Les that. Should keep the speculation down for a week or two....then stand by for the same old repetitive media drivel. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 7

12:46pm Fri 25 Apr 14

bullsbags says...

ToastyTea wrote:
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
Didn't do any harm!
What about the flare that was set off in Cardiff a few years ago that shot across the pitch and killed someone
IDIOT
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.[/p][/quote]Didn't do any harm! What about the flare that was set off in Cardiff a few years ago that shot across the pitch and killed someone IDIOT bullsbags
  • Score: 12

12:48pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Golden_Salamander says...

It is a GOOD statement from Les
It would also be nice if we got something from Ralph as well.

Did anyone notice that the Youtube version is 4m 42sec long and the Radio Solent version is 5:34.

https://audioboo.fm/
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In the 52 sec extra the "Press" admit that other Clubs are "briefing them" about our Players.
SURELY WE HAVE A CASE TO TAKE TO THE PL/FA about this.

Come on Ralph don't just sit around sending out emails take some action with the PL.
It is a GOOD statement from Les It would also be nice if we got something from Ralph as well. Did anyone notice that the Youtube version is 4m 42sec long and the Radio Solent version is 5:34. https://audioboo.fm/ boos/2103627-listen- the-full-statement-f rom-saintsfc-footbal l-director-les-reed- on-pochettino-s-futu re-and-transfer-rumo urs#t=5m5s In the 52 sec extra the "Press" admit that other Clubs are "briefing them" about our Players. SURELY WE HAVE A CASE TO TAKE TO THE PL/FA about this. Come on Ralph don't just sit around sending out emails take some action with the PL. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 9

1:28pm Fri 25 Apr 14

St Retford says...

Changing tack slightly, has anyone heard any rumours on who our new shirt sponsor will be next season?

I think next season could feel very different, with a brand people have heard of displayed in press conferences and a team known for its balls in standing up to the big boys. It'll be like we've stepped up a gear.
Changing tack slightly, has anyone heard any rumours on who our new shirt sponsor will be next season? I think next season could feel very different, with a brand people have heard of displayed in press conferences and a team known for its balls in standing up to the big boys. It'll be like we've stepped up a gear. St Retford
  • Score: 5

1:39pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
What do you think he could have said, in order to make his statement "meaningful or positive"?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.[/p][/quote]What do you think he could have said, in order to make his statement "meaningful or positive"? Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

invictus says...

Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight? invictus
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.
no one can `come in` without the permission of the club, MP still has a year of his current contract to run so there really is no rush. if MP doesn't want to talk about a contract yet it would be foolish of the club to pressure him.
like you I wish it would just get sorted and the sooner the better, I think though we will just have to wait for another few weeks.
I like your belief in good old fashioned ethics, but having had experience of pitching to existing clients as an incumbent I know that everything can be wonderful and settled and everyone can say the right things, but it is harder to show your will to keep someone if they are familiar with them.

I'm not being negative, just realistic. Everyone knows that MP joining, say, Spurs, would be a bad move for everyone, not least him, but if Levy gets the chance to show off his lovely impressive models of his new stadium and sell in a vision of going for the title alla Liverpool it would be easy to get drawn in (clearly then getting sacked within the year).

Being calm and patient is great and I sincerely hope both sides are calm and patient because they don't see a future anywhere else, but there is a risk of calmness and patience being mistaken for complacency.

Football is full of sharks and people who are willing to bash down your door and make it very clear how much they will offer, sometimes not via the official route, to get their man. So I don't think you can necessarily count on doing things in a gentlemanly way when you have the likes of Levy hanging around.

I'm not saying we necessarily are, but we can't afford to be naive. We're competing at a different level now and the rules are different. I hope the board appreciates that (while trying to do things the right way).
Reality only becomes apparent after it has happened. You are, like everyone else on here, just speculating.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.[/p][/quote]no one can `come in` without the permission of the club, MP still has a year of his current contract to run so there really is no rush. if MP doesn't want to talk about a contract yet it would be foolish of the club to pressure him. like you I wish it would just get sorted and the sooner the better, I think though we will just have to wait for another few weeks.[/p][/quote]I like your belief in good old fashioned ethics, but having had experience of pitching to existing clients as an incumbent I know that everything can be wonderful and settled and everyone can say the right things, but it is harder to show your will to keep someone if they are familiar with them. I'm not being negative, just realistic. Everyone knows that MP joining, say, Spurs, would be a bad move for everyone, not least him, but if Levy gets the chance to show off his lovely impressive models of his new stadium and sell in a vision of going for the title alla Liverpool it would be easy to get drawn in (clearly then getting sacked within the year). Being calm and patient is great and I sincerely hope both sides are calm and patient because they don't see a future anywhere else, but there is a risk of calmness and patience being mistaken for complacency. Football is full of sharks and people who are willing to bash down your door and make it very clear how much they will offer, sometimes not via the official route, to get their man. So I don't think you can necessarily count on doing things in a gentlemanly way when you have the likes of Levy hanging around. I'm not saying we necessarily are, but we can't afford to be naive. We're competing at a different level now and the rules are different. I hope the board appreciates that (while trying to do things the right way).[/p][/quote]Reality only becomes apparent after it has happened. You are, like everyone else on here, just speculating. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

2:05pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
I thought Reed was quite clear, in his comments, stressing that they were aiming to keep all the players MP wants to keep, whilst bringing in other players to improve the team.

What exactly do you want him or Krueger to say?
Is not retaining our best players and striving to improve not enough of a vision for the club (you)?
Or do you want to hear empty promises, just so that should they not come to fruition, you can moan about that?

The future is very, very bright, with no sign of the implosion some people feared, yet 2 or 3 on here seem to be running a campaign to unsettle the majority that are grateful for what we have.

Get real.
[quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]I thought Reed was quite clear, in his comments, stressing that they were aiming to keep all the players MP wants to keep, whilst bringing in other players to improve the team. What exactly do you want him or Krueger to say? Is not retaining our best players and striving to improve not enough of a vision for the club (you)? Or do you want to hear empty promises, just so that should they not come to fruition, you can moan about that? The future is very, very bright, with no sign of the implosion some people feared, yet 2 or 3 on here seem to be running a campaign to unsettle the majority that are grateful for what we have. Get real. Costa Baz
  • Score: 5

2:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

Excellent. I asked for clarity on another thread, and Reed has more than answered!
I love it when we stick to fingers up to the London press ( why have they been carrying on this anti-Saints barrage since January? Surely Cortese can't STILL be orchestrating it, as he clearly was in the aftermath of leaving??) and the so called big boys.
In fact, if there's a sniff of Manure having contacted Luke, Adam, Morgan etc, we should nail them for tapping up, and if it's just in the press, can we attack the clubs legally for spreading misinformation deliberately to the media to try and destabilize things?
Excellent. I asked for clarity on another thread, and Reed has more than answered! I love it when we stick to fingers up to the London press ( why have they been carrying on this anti-Saints barrage since January? Surely Cortese can't STILL be orchestrating it, as he clearly was in the aftermath of leaving??) and the so called big boys. In fact, if there's a sniff of Manure having contacted Luke, Adam, Morgan etc, we should nail them for tapping up, and if it's just in the press, can we attack the clubs legally for spreading misinformation deliberately to the media to try and destabilize things? BracknellSaint
  • Score: 3

2:21pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Saintjon says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
I don't know what's going on. What's happening ?
I don't know.
There is a rumor going around that one of our directors has said that none of our players are for sale. I read it in the paper this afternoon........can
't believe anything they write these days !
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I don't know what's going on. What's happening ?[/p][/quote]I don't know.[/p][/quote]There is a rumor going around that one of our directors has said that none of our players are for sale. I read it in the paper this afternoon........can 't believe anything they write these days ! Saintjon
  • Score: 2

2:24pm Fri 25 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

StElsass wrote:
It can hardly be much clearer, can't it?
Queue all the comments about what he didn't say and what he actually meant by saying that.
In fact, I see it's already started...
Cue the people reading between the lines.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: It can hardly be much clearer, can't it? Queue all the comments about what he didn't say and what he actually meant by saying that. In fact, I see it's already started...[/p][/quote]Cue the people reading between the lines. lowe esteem
  • Score: 0

2:33pm Fri 25 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Different strokes, oh wise one.
Or do you just want an undiluted dose of balls hit, which you may agree, does nobody any good?
[quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Different strokes, oh wise one. Or do you just want an undiluted dose of balls hit, which you may agree, does nobody any good? lowe esteem
  • Score: 1

2:33pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ToastyTea wrote:
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.[/p][/quote]Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

2:37pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
[quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

2:39pm Fri 25 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
It is a GOOD statement from Les
It would also be nice if we got something from Ralph as well.

Did anyone notice that the Youtube version is 4m 42sec long and the Radio Solent version is 5:34.

https://audioboo.fm/

boos/2103627-listen-

the-full-statement-f

rom-saintsfc-footbal

l-director-les-reed-

on-pochettino-s-futu

re-and-transfer-rumo

urs#t=5m5s

In the 52 sec extra the "Press" admit that other Clubs are "briefing them" about our Players.
SURELY WE HAVE A CASE TO TAKE TO THE PL/FA about this.

Come on Ralph don't just sit around sending out emails take some action with the PL.
Yes…media are the big clubs 'cats paw' needs to be stamped on..
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: It is a GOOD statement from Les It would also be nice if we got something from Ralph as well. Did anyone notice that the Youtube version is 4m 42sec long and the Radio Solent version is 5:34. https://audioboo.fm/ boos/2103627-listen- the-full-statement-f rom-saintsfc-footbal l-director-les-reed- on-pochettino-s-futu re-and-transfer-rumo urs#t=5m5s In the 52 sec extra the "Press" admit that other Clubs are "briefing them" about our Players. SURELY WE HAVE A CASE TO TAKE TO THE PL/FA about this. Come on Ralph don't just sit around sending out emails take some action with the PL.[/p][/quote]Yes…media are the big clubs 'cats paw' needs to be stamped on.. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

2:41pm Fri 25 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.
I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.[/p][/quote]Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.[/p][/quote]I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter. warrens 76
  • Score: -4

2:57pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Mick,Derby says...

Interesting statement. Only 2 reasons for all the speculation, namely:
1. Man United are briefing journalists that they have a deal on the table to buy Luke and Adam for 55million.
2.Journalists from Mail,Mirror,Guardian
,Sun etc totally fabricating so called "scoops2",in order to sell newspapers.Whichever is correct surely all It needs is a Manure board director to also refute that they have been illegally tapping up our players, or briefing the press to unsettle our players.
End of Story
Interesting statement. Only 2 reasons for all the speculation, namely: 1. Man United are briefing journalists that they have a deal on the table to buy Luke and Adam for 55million. 2.Journalists from Mail,Mirror,Guardian ,Sun etc totally fabricating so called "scoops2",in order to sell newspapers.Whichever is correct surely all It needs is a Manure board director to also refute that they have been illegally tapping up our players, or briefing the press to unsettle our players. End of Story Mick,Derby
  • Score: 10

3:12pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

Cortèse kept all quiet and that was acceptable to some, reed has come out with a statement and it's still not enough for some! Gossip is stirred up by agents to unsettle players and newspapers to sell crap basically. What will be will be, we can't cross a bridge until it arrives. Our players could return injured from World Cup and will be going no where.

I'm more worried by about our progression and how it will be funded.
Cortèse kept all quiet and that was acceptable to some, reed has come out with a statement and it's still not enough for some! Gossip is stirred up by agents to unsettle players and newspapers to sell crap basically. What will be will be, we can't cross a bridge until it arrives. Our players could return injured from World Cup and will be going no where. I'm more worried by about our progression and how it will be funded. Rooflas
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Fri 25 Apr 14

invictus says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.[/p][/quote]Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision? invictus
  • Score: 2

3:17pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

Well that's it I'm convinced, Luke and Adam are definitely off then.

But it will give us plenty of cash to strengthen throughout the squad, which will be very welcome.
Well that's it I'm convinced, Luke and Adam are definitely off then. But it will give us plenty of cash to strengthen throughout the squad, which will be very welcome. Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -14

3:29pm Fri 25 Apr 14

invictus says...

Costa Baz wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
I thought Reed was quite clear, in his comments, stressing that they were aiming to keep all the players MP wants to keep, whilst bringing in other players to improve the team.

What exactly do you want him or Krueger to say?
Is not retaining our best players and striving to improve not enough of a vision for the club (you)?
Or do you want to hear empty promises, just so that should they not come to fruition, you can moan about that?

The future is very, very bright, with no sign of the implosion some people feared, yet 2 or 3 on here seem to be running a campaign to unsettle the majority that are grateful for what we have.

Get real.
You are making a lot of negative assumptions based on some simple questions I have raised. Having a vision in place is a critical success factor, it underpins the whole motion and identity of an organisation - it unsurps ambiguity and creates a positive environment in which to progress.

It's called setting a standards bar, and I think I've just tripped over yours.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]I thought Reed was quite clear, in his comments, stressing that they were aiming to keep all the players MP wants to keep, whilst bringing in other players to improve the team. What exactly do you want him or Krueger to say? Is not retaining our best players and striving to improve not enough of a vision for the club (you)? Or do you want to hear empty promises, just so that should they not come to fruition, you can moan about that? The future is very, very bright, with no sign of the implosion some people feared, yet 2 or 3 on here seem to be running a campaign to unsettle the majority that are grateful for what we have. Get real.[/p][/quote]You are making a lot of negative assumptions based on some simple questions I have raised. Having a vision in place is a critical success factor, it underpins the whole motion and identity of an organisation - it unsurps ambiguity and creates a positive environment in which to progress. It's called setting a standards bar, and I think I've just tripped over yours. invictus
  • Score: -5

3:36pm Fri 25 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

SaintJD wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.
no one can `come in` without the permission of the club, MP still has a year of his current contract to run so there really is no rush. if MP doesn't want to talk about a contract yet it would be foolish of the club to pressure him.
like you I wish it would just get sorted and the sooner the better, I think though we will just have to wait for another few weeks.
I like your belief in good old fashioned ethics, but having had experience of pitching to existing clients as an incumbent I know that everything can be wonderful and settled and everyone can say the right things, but it is harder to show your will to keep someone if they are familiar with them.

I'm not being negative, just realistic. Everyone knows that MP joining, say, Spurs, would be a bad move for everyone, not least him, but if Levy gets the chance to show off his lovely impressive models of his new stadium and sell in a vision of going for the title alla Liverpool it would be easy to get drawn in (clearly then getting sacked within the year).

Being calm and patient is great and I sincerely hope both sides are calm and patient because they don't see a future anywhere else, but there is a risk of calmness and patience being mistaken for complacency.

Football is full of sharks and people who are willing to bash down your door and make it very clear how much they will offer, sometimes not via the official route, to get their man. So I don't think you can necessarily count on doing things in a gentlemanly way when you have the likes of Levy hanging around.

I'm not saying we necessarily are, but we can't afford to be naive. We're competing at a different level now and the rules are different. I hope the board appreciates that (while trying to do things the right way).
I`m not claiming for one second that you are being negative, I was just stating that if any club wants to talk to MP directly they have to ask the club first or they could be done for taping up.
MP would be daft to go to spuds, no real youth set up, a chairman who sacks managers at the drop of a hat and transfers being done behind the managers back.
levy can do all he likes via the media to try to get MP but MP has said before that he doesn't read the media rumours or believe them.
MP has also stated before that he believes in contracts, he could easily have gone when NC left, if he really wanted to, but said he has a contract and is the type of person who honours them.
the season ends on 11th of may so that isn't that long to wait for both sides to get together. with all the talk about the future and the long term future in the statement it seems clear to me that MP is happy here and the board/owner are happy for him to stay here, MP has been given assurances that any player he doesn't want sold wont be. they have also been talking about targets for the summer so he will know what the budget is for next year.
I`m no fool and realise that the lure of the `big` clubs can be hard to resist but I also think that he is happy here and is happy with the project going forward.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Nice, positive comments. My only concern is that even if both parties tell each other it's best to wait until the end of the season for discussions, I don't see this benefiting the club's position. Clearly it suits MP and why wouldn't it - he's in the driving seat here, but all the talk of it being a distraction during the season seems a bit of a smokescreen from him to give him time to weigh up his options and, quite rightly, see what the board has to say. Personally I'd prefer if they did that now and put a tiny bit of pressure on him before the offers start coming in, not after. Of course if it all ends up happily, great, I just think it is a risk waiting because while it's all very nice saying both parties are relaxed about it, that can be interpreted by MP as not showing enough fight to keep him. So, if someone comes in and tells him they'll move heaven and earth to get his signature, it could just sway him.[/p][/quote]no one can `come in` without the permission of the club, MP still has a year of his current contract to run so there really is no rush. if MP doesn't want to talk about a contract yet it would be foolish of the club to pressure him. like you I wish it would just get sorted and the sooner the better, I think though we will just have to wait for another few weeks.[/p][/quote]I like your belief in good old fashioned ethics, but having had experience of pitching to existing clients as an incumbent I know that everything can be wonderful and settled and everyone can say the right things, but it is harder to show your will to keep someone if they are familiar with them. I'm not being negative, just realistic. Everyone knows that MP joining, say, Spurs, would be a bad move for everyone, not least him, but if Levy gets the chance to show off his lovely impressive models of his new stadium and sell in a vision of going for the title alla Liverpool it would be easy to get drawn in (clearly then getting sacked within the year). Being calm and patient is great and I sincerely hope both sides are calm and patient because they don't see a future anywhere else, but there is a risk of calmness and patience being mistaken for complacency. Football is full of sharks and people who are willing to bash down your door and make it very clear how much they will offer, sometimes not via the official route, to get their man. So I don't think you can necessarily count on doing things in a gentlemanly way when you have the likes of Levy hanging around. I'm not saying we necessarily are, but we can't afford to be naive. We're competing at a different level now and the rules are different. I hope the board appreciates that (while trying to do things the right way).[/p][/quote]I`m not claiming for one second that you are being negative, I was just stating that if any club wants to talk to MP directly they have to ask the club first or they could be done for taping up. MP would be daft to go to spuds, no real youth set up, a chairman who sacks managers at the drop of a hat and transfers being done behind the managers back. levy can do all he likes via the media to try to get MP but MP has said before that he doesn't read the media rumours or believe them. MP has also stated before that he believes in contracts, he could easily have gone when NC left, if he really wanted to, but said he has a contract and is the type of person who honours them. the season ends on 11th of may so that isn't that long to wait for both sides to get together. with all the talk about the future and the long term future in the statement it seems clear to me that MP is happy here and the board/owner are happy for him to stay here, MP has been given assurances that any player he doesn't want sold wont be. they have also been talking about targets for the summer so he will know what the budget is for next year. I`m no fool and realise that the lure of the `big` clubs can be hard to resist but I also think that he is happy here and is happy with the project going forward. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

3:45pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?
No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.
[quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.[/p][/quote]Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?[/p][/quote]No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

3:53pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

One thing I am not sure about, will the existing players be giving us an indication of their own future ambitions in the last three games. or will they just see the Season out in a comfort zone?
One thing I am not sure about, will the existing players be giving us an indication of their own future ambitions in the last three games. or will they just see the Season out in a comfort zone? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

3:56pm Fri 25 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

'A different oulook'….

Bale sold for 85 million so we undersold …mmm BUT did we have the exposure or the threshold of being champions league material ( which he showed almost exclusively as down to him) no.

Neither did we did get proper money for Ox or Theo, historically our players were never 'quite' proven enough to get the BIG bucks unfortunately this was due to our league position and finances….

…even Shearer should have commanded at least double his transfer fee, maybe more..certainly 3 years later Newcastle paid 5x more!

So today for the first time in our history IF someone comes 'a callin' we get the price or they take the high road….

..IF Luke went for 30 million I would say swallow and use the money to strengthen in three places without risking financial meltdown….

10 million a pop could and should buy three world class players, more than making up for the loss of Luke…

This is were management nous can win the day…particularly if we can come out quits on Osvaldo..do not worry about Gaston he is one of us ( that is from the inside) and he will come good.

Properly done and happy days.
'A different oulook'…. Bale sold for 85 million so we undersold …mmm BUT did we have the exposure or the threshold of being champions league material ( which he showed almost exclusively as down to him) no. Neither did we did get proper money for Ox or Theo, historically our players were never 'quite' proven enough to get the BIG bucks unfortunately this was due to our league position and finances…. …even Shearer should have commanded at least double his transfer fee, maybe more..certainly 3 years later Newcastle paid 5x more! So today for the first time in our history IF someone comes 'a callin' we get the price or they take the high road…. ..IF Luke went for 30 million I would say swallow and use the money to strengthen in three places without risking financial meltdown…. 10 million a pop could and should buy three world class players, more than making up for the loss of Luke… This is were management nous can win the day…particularly if we can come out quits on Osvaldo..do not worry about Gaston he is one of us ( that is from the inside) and he will come good. Properly done and happy days. warrens 76
  • Score: 4

3:58pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
One thing I am not sure about, will the existing players be giving us an indication of their own future ambitions in the last three games. or will they just see the Season out in a comfort zone?
I think it's human nature that they will take their foot off the peddle so to speak. We are near enough secured 8th without being able to catch Man U.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: One thing I am not sure about, will the existing players be giving us an indication of their own future ambitions in the last three games. or will they just see the Season out in a comfort zone?[/p][/quote]I think it's human nature that they will take their foot off the peddle so to speak. We are near enough secured 8th without being able to catch Man U. Rooflas
  • Score: 1

4:04pm Fri 25 Apr 14

right back in the bar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
he's right though - there is nothing meaningful because none of it needed to be said - talk about MP and players is pure speculation fuelled by the press and none of it is founded in fact. If Reed is going to come and say something then I agree... make it meaningful. The intention is good but there not much of real substance.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.[/p][/quote]he's right though - there is nothing meaningful because none of it needed to be said - talk about MP and players is pure speculation fuelled by the press and none of it is founded in fact. If Reed is going to come and say something then I agree... make it meaningful. The intention is good but there not much of real substance. right back in the bar
  • Score: -3

4:05pm Fri 25 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?
No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.
haven't the board and RK all said that they are going to continue with `the Southampton way`? isn't that the vision that everyone is asking for?
we were never told much before, we knew about the `5 year plan` and how we achieved that earlier than expected. Les Reed said today in the statement that they want to improve our league position next season and improve the squad whilst retaining the current squad.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.[/p][/quote]Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?[/p][/quote]No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.[/p][/quote]haven't the board and RK all said that they are going to continue with `the Southampton way`? isn't that the vision that everyone is asking for? we were never told much before, we knew about the `5 year plan` and how we achieved that earlier than expected. Les Reed said today in the statement that they want to improve our league position next season and improve the squad whilst retaining the current squad. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

4:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

invictus wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
I thought Reed was quite clear, in his comments, stressing that they were aiming to keep all the players MP wants to keep, whilst bringing in other players to improve the team.

What exactly do you want him or Krueger to say?
Is not retaining our best players and striving to improve not enough of a vision for the club (you)?
Or do you want to hear empty promises, just so that should they not come to fruition, you can moan about that?

The future is very, very bright, with no sign of the implosion some people feared, yet 2 or 3 on here seem to be running a campaign to unsettle the majority that are grateful for what we have.

Get real.
You are making a lot of negative assumptions based on some simple questions I have raised. Having a vision in place is a critical success factor, it underpins the whole motion and identity of an organisation - it unsurps ambiguity and creates a positive environment in which to progress.

It's called setting a standards bar, and I think I've just tripped over yours.
So tell us what you want to hear from the club.

Simple question, asked for the second time.

If my accepting Reed's statement of intended improvement means I have low standards, then so be it.
For me, continued improvement is an intelligent vision, based on reality, and most intelligent and realistic supporters will accept that.
Stating that our objective is to win the Champions League, may get the blood flowing, and get a few dreamers creaming themselves, but in order to do that the club must first improve.

With the right level of funding and the purchasing of the right players, to fit into our squad, we may be ready to push for 6th, next season, but all the pieces will have to fall into place, for that to happen.
[quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]I thought Reed was quite clear, in his comments, stressing that they were aiming to keep all the players MP wants to keep, whilst bringing in other players to improve the team. What exactly do you want him or Krueger to say? Is not retaining our best players and striving to improve not enough of a vision for the club (you)? Or do you want to hear empty promises, just so that should they not come to fruition, you can moan about that? The future is very, very bright, with no sign of the implosion some people feared, yet 2 or 3 on here seem to be running a campaign to unsettle the majority that are grateful for what we have. Get real.[/p][/quote]You are making a lot of negative assumptions based on some simple questions I have raised. Having a vision in place is a critical success factor, it underpins the whole motion and identity of an organisation - it unsurps ambiguity and creates a positive environment in which to progress. It's called setting a standards bar, and I think I've just tripped over yours.[/p][/quote]So tell us what you want to hear from the club. Simple question, asked for the second time. If my accepting Reed's statement of intended improvement means I have low standards, then so be it. For me, continued improvement is an intelligent vision, based on reality, and most intelligent and realistic supporters will accept that. Stating that our objective is to win the Champions League, may get the blood flowing, and get a few dreamers creaming themselves, but in order to do that the club must first improve. With the right level of funding and the purchasing of the right players, to fit into our squad, we may be ready to push for 6th, next season, but all the pieces will have to fall into place, for that to happen. Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

4:25pm Fri 25 Apr 14

invictus says...

Costa Baz wrote:
invictus wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
I thought Reed was quite clear, in his comments, stressing that they were aiming to keep all the players MP wants to keep, whilst bringing in other players to improve the team.

What exactly do you want him or Krueger to say?
Is not retaining our best players and striving to improve not enough of a vision for the club (you)?
Or do you want to hear empty promises, just so that should they not come to fruition, you can moan about that?

The future is very, very bright, with no sign of the implosion some people feared, yet 2 or 3 on here seem to be running a campaign to unsettle the majority that are grateful for what we have.

Get real.
You are making a lot of negative assumptions based on some simple questions I have raised. Having a vision in place is a critical success factor, it underpins the whole motion and identity of an organisation - it unsurps ambiguity and creates a positive environment in which to progress.

It's called setting a standards bar, and I think I've just tripped over yours.
So tell us what you want to hear from the club.

Simple question, asked for the second time.

If my accepting Reed's statement of intended improvement means I have low standards, then so be it.
For me, continued improvement is an intelligent vision, based on reality, and most intelligent and realistic supporters will accept that.
Stating that our objective is to win the Champions League, may get the blood flowing, and get a few dreamers creaming themselves, but in order to do that the club must first improve.

With the right level of funding and the purchasing of the right players, to fit into our squad, we may be ready to push for 6th, next season, but all the pieces will have to fall into place, for that to happen.
It's not for me to tell the club exactly what to say, I simply ask what their vision is?

As a fan, I would like us to be ambitious and successful who wouldn't? I've enjoyed every minute watching Saints this season ditto all the league 1 and Championship campaigns too. We are in a superb position to push on, I would fancy a Europa League season or 2, despite the negative press this competition has, then progress on from there.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]I thought Reed was quite clear, in his comments, stressing that they were aiming to keep all the players MP wants to keep, whilst bringing in other players to improve the team. What exactly do you want him or Krueger to say? Is not retaining our best players and striving to improve not enough of a vision for the club (you)? Or do you want to hear empty promises, just so that should they not come to fruition, you can moan about that? The future is very, very bright, with no sign of the implosion some people feared, yet 2 or 3 on here seem to be running a campaign to unsettle the majority that are grateful for what we have. Get real.[/p][/quote]You are making a lot of negative assumptions based on some simple questions I have raised. Having a vision in place is a critical success factor, it underpins the whole motion and identity of an organisation - it unsurps ambiguity and creates a positive environment in which to progress. It's called setting a standards bar, and I think I've just tripped over yours.[/p][/quote]So tell us what you want to hear from the club. Simple question, asked for the second time. If my accepting Reed's statement of intended improvement means I have low standards, then so be it. For me, continued improvement is an intelligent vision, based on reality, and most intelligent and realistic supporters will accept that. Stating that our objective is to win the Champions League, may get the blood flowing, and get a few dreamers creaming themselves, but in order to do that the club must first improve. With the right level of funding and the purchasing of the right players, to fit into our squad, we may be ready to push for 6th, next season, but all the pieces will have to fall into place, for that to happen.[/p][/quote]It's not for me to tell the club exactly what to say, I simply ask what their vision is? As a fan, I would like us to be ambitious and successful who wouldn't? I've enjoyed every minute watching Saints this season ditto all the league 1 and Championship campaigns too. We are in a superb position to push on, I would fancy a Europa League season or 2, despite the negative press this competition has, then progress on from there. invictus
  • Score: -3

4:45pm Fri 25 Apr 14

invictus says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?
No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.
It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.[/p][/quote]Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?[/p][/quote]No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.[/p][/quote]It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case. invictus
  • Score: -2

4:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?
No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.
It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.
You lost me completely there, I am just a humble football fan, very naive and I prefer the Financial Gurus to sort out the finances, they won't want to tell us anything other than the basics and certainly don't want or need to give an advantage to their opponents do they? I prefer Red and White to black and white, even my tea cosy is red and white. I don't want Politics in football, with a large C or a small one, don't want to labour the point as I am more liberal than that.
[quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.[/p][/quote]Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?[/p][/quote]No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.[/p][/quote]It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.[/p][/quote]You lost me completely there, I am just a humble football fan, very naive and I prefer the Financial Gurus to sort out the finances, they won't want to tell us anything other than the basics and certainly don't want or need to give an advantage to their opponents do they? I prefer Red and White to black and white, even my tea cosy is red and white. I don't want Politics in football, with a large C or a small one, don't want to labour the point as I am more liberal than that. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

4:56pm Fri 25 Apr 14

invictus says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?
No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.
It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.
You lost me completely there, I am just a humble football fan, very naive and I prefer the Financial Gurus to sort out the finances, they won't want to tell us anything other than the basics and certainly don't want or need to give an advantage to their opponents do they? I prefer Red and White to black and white, even my tea cosy is red and white. I don't want Politics in football, with a large C or a small one, don't want to labour the point as I am more liberal than that.
I'm sure we want the same thing for Saints and it no bad thing if there's a debate or two along the way! Don't ask me why but my gut feeling is we will stick it to the toffees on Saturday: 1.0 Lambert header.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.[/p][/quote]Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?[/p][/quote]No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.[/p][/quote]It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.[/p][/quote]You lost me completely there, I am just a humble football fan, very naive and I prefer the Financial Gurus to sort out the finances, they won't want to tell us anything other than the basics and certainly don't want or need to give an advantage to their opponents do they? I prefer Red and White to black and white, even my tea cosy is red and white. I don't want Politics in football, with a large C or a small one, don't want to labour the point as I am more liberal than that.[/p][/quote]I'm sure we want the same thing for Saints and it no bad thing if there's a debate or two along the way! Don't ask me why but my gut feeling is we will stick it to the toffees on Saturday: 1.0 Lambert header. invictus
  • Score: 0

4:58pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

We've not won a prem league home game when Spider-man hasn't played?!
We've not won a prem league home game when Spider-man hasn't played?! Rooflas
  • Score: 0

5:13pm Fri 25 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

Freddie Flowerpot wrote:
Well that's it I'm convinced, Luke and Adam are definitely off then.

But it will give us plenty of cash to strengthen throughout the squad, which will be very welcome.
I have ticked you up you super saints fan you.
[quote][p][bold]Freddie Flowerpot[/bold] wrote: Well that's it I'm convinced, Luke and Adam are definitely off then. But it will give us plenty of cash to strengthen throughout the squad, which will be very welcome.[/p][/quote]I have ticked you up you super saints fan you. warrens 76
  • Score: 5

5:27pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.
I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.
Found Guilty, I am surprised at that, they now await sentencing.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.[/p][/quote]Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.[/p][/quote]I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.[/p][/quote]Found Guilty, I am surprised at that, they now await sentencing. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

5:30pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.
I am beginning to suspect that you posted this with tongue firmly in cheek?
:0)

I think it's an outstanding statement and has certainly calmed my fears caused by some of the previous comments by the newer and less experienced board members.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: I welcome Reed's statement but it's a shame he didn't take the opportunity to say anything meaningful or positive.[/p][/quote]I am beginning to suspect that you posted this with tongue firmly in cheek?[/p][/quote]:0) I think it's an outstanding statement and has certainly calmed my fears caused by some of the previous comments by the newer and less experienced board members. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 13

5:40pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.
I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.
Found Guilty, I am surprised at that, they now await sentencing.
The two men have each been fined £250 and ordered to pay £25 victim surcharge and £325 costs.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.[/p][/quote]Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.[/p][/quote]I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.[/p][/quote]Found Guilty, I am surprised at that, they now await sentencing.[/p][/quote]The two men have each been fined £250 and ordered to pay £25 victim surcharge and £325 costs. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

5:52pm Fri 25 Apr 14

peregrine73 says...

Rooflas wrote:
We've not won a prem league home game when Spider-man hasn't played?!
The Everton game is a real indication on our progress,we are close to them in quality,but have we got there finishing power?
[quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: We've not won a prem league home game when Spider-man hasn't played?![/p][/quote]The Everton game is a real indication on our progress,we are close to them in quality,but have we got there finishing power? peregrine73
  • Score: 1

6:07pm Fri 25 Apr 14

bullsbags says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.
I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.
Found Guilty, I am surprised at that, they now await sentencing.
Good
Ban them from all football grounds for 10 years
That ok with you toasty
£600 will hurt still say they should have been banned
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.[/p][/quote]Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.[/p][/quote]I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.[/p][/quote]Found Guilty, I am surprised at that, they now await sentencing.[/p][/quote]Good Ban them from all football grounds for 10 years That ok with you toasty £600 will hurt still say they should have been banned bullsbags
  • Score: 0

6:07pm Fri 25 Apr 14

bullsbags says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.
Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.
I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.
Found Guilty, I am surprised at that, they now await sentencing.
Good
Ban them from all football grounds for 10 years
That ok with you toasty
£600 will hurt still say they should have been banned
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Just to say I hope the 2 Chelsea fans in court today over letting off a flare at St Marys get off, (in the news section) it didn't do any harm and was bit of fun that added to the atmosphere.[/p][/quote]Have you read the evidence? "he was cheering then felt a "burning sensation", Harmless? My foot! There is no place in the Premier for this kind of nonsense. I think these two may get away with it as there is no proof that they brought it in or actually set it off, if they are found innocent I bet they are well enamoured with the idiots that got them into trouble.[/p][/quote]I quite like the atmosphere it engenders..however there are those who sit for the entire game and contribute no atmosphere, help, support indeed anything..a smoke bomb at leeast allows them to mutter.[/p][/quote]Found Guilty, I am surprised at that, they now await sentencing.[/p][/quote]Good Ban them from all football grounds for 10 years That ok with you toasty £600 will hurt still say they should have been banned bullsbags
  • Score: 1

6:22pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?
No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.
It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.
You lost me completely there, I am just a humble football fan, very naive and I prefer the Financial Gurus to sort out the finances, they won't want to tell us anything other than the basics and certainly don't want or need to give an advantage to their opponents do they? I prefer Red and White to black and white, even my tea cosy is red and white. I don't want Politics in football, with a large C or a small one, don't want to labour the point as I am more liberal than that.
I bet u kip in the afternoons though.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.[/p][/quote]Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?[/p][/quote]No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.[/p][/quote]It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.[/p][/quote]You lost me completely there, I am just a humble football fan, very naive and I prefer the Financial Gurus to sort out the finances, they won't want to tell us anything other than the basics and certainly don't want or need to give an advantage to their opponents do they? I prefer Red and White to black and white, even my tea cosy is red and white. I don't want Politics in football, with a large C or a small one, don't want to labour the point as I am more liberal than that.[/p][/quote]I bet u kip in the afternoons though. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

6:41pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Rooflas says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
invictus wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
invictus wrote:
Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there.

He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth?

Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?
Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.
And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?
Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.
Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?
No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.
It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.
You lost me completely there, I am just a humble football fan, very naive and I prefer the Financial Gurus to sort out the finances, they won't want to tell us anything other than the basics and certainly don't want or need to give an advantage to their opponents do they? I prefer Red and White to black and white, even my tea cosy is red and white. I don't want Politics in football, with a large C or a small one, don't want to labour the point as I am more liberal than that.
I bet u kip in the afternoons though.
With or without the wife?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]invictus[/bold] wrote: Reed's statement would have had greater impact if he had stated what the club's vision was, like to become a top 6 team. Most clubs want to improve their squads so nothing new there. He should also have taken questions at the end of the interview, otherwise it comes across as a community management exercise again, perhaps to suppress a controversial truth? Ralph, enlighten us, what's the vision?[/p][/quote]Well we are currently eighth and he stated quite clearly that we are looking to build on that going forward. So he may not have actually said we are targetting 6th place but I think we can assume that he means something better than 8th. He also clearly stated that no club has been given permission to speak to any of our players and that will remain so. The desire is to retain the players we have and bring in players to improve the side. I really don't see how he could have said anything more positive than this and at least the club has made the move to put down all the ridiculous fairy tales that are currently circulating regarding our players.[/p][/quote]And, by your own admission, you're making assumptions because he wasn't clear about the clubs vision! No one has since Cortese left. Is it too much to ask Krueger to put the record straight?[/p][/quote]Enlighten us with a list of statements that you want to hear quoted, please.[/p][/quote]Or, perhaps you could tell us what the Club's vision?[/p][/quote]No, I think it is unchanged from pre NC deprture, but I can only say with any authority what I want it to be, I am sure many are on the same tack, I will wait until the end of the Season and I am sure I will be reliably informed through the media about the direction that we will be taking. The positives are the statement that Players are unlikely to be leaving and Poch is still in the frame for next Season, that's only the start. Other than that I don't expect much more to be said for the remainder of this Season. Like the rest of us you will have to be patient, if that isn't enough for you then you will be very frustrated and perhaps should seek your thrills elsewhere, somewhere, where everything is black and white and laid on a plate for you, I reckon that would be very tedious.[/p][/quote]It's a business fundemental, Osprey, and I just think it needs to be brought out into the open for reasons stated in previous posts. Black and white is accepting the status quo and the large plate that is laid out on - conservatism with a capital C and a Woolley cover over the teapot! Tedious tea for one in this case.[/p][/quote]You lost me completely there, I am just a humble football fan, very naive and I prefer the Financial Gurus to sort out the finances, they won't want to tell us anything other than the basics and certainly don't want or need to give an advantage to their opponents do they? I prefer Red and White to black and white, even my tea cosy is red and white. I don't want Politics in football, with a large C or a small one, don't want to labour the point as I am more liberal than that.[/p][/quote]I bet u kip in the afternoons though.[/p][/quote]With or without the wife? Rooflas
  • Score: 0

6:52pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

peregrine73 wrote:
Rooflas wrote:
We've not won a prem league home game when Spider-man hasn't played?!
The Everton game is a real indication on our progress,we are close to them in quality,but have we got there finishing power?
With Dani exiled, Jay crocked and Gaston injured as well and no Morgan it's going to be very hard. We know we don't have the depth and that can't be fixed until the summer so let's hope we can get something out of it.
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: We've not won a prem league home game when Spider-man hasn't played?![/p][/quote]The Everton game is a real indication on our progress,we are close to them in quality,but have we got there finishing power?[/p][/quote]With Dani exiled, Jay crocked and Gaston injured as well and no Morgan it's going to be very hard. We know we don't have the depth and that can't be fixed until the summer so let's hope we can get something out of it. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

7:01pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Manicsaintbloke says...

This still won't shutup clubs who still think money will talk when actually loyalty does exist still I truly believe Adam Luke and co will emulate le tissier's loyalty to us we are not a small pond no more
This still won't shutup clubs who still think money will talk when actually loyalty does exist still I truly believe Adam Luke and co will emulate le tissier's loyalty to us we are not a small pond no more Manicsaintbloke
  • Score: 0

7:25pm Fri 25 Apr 14

slugger says...

A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right !
A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right ! slugger
  • Score: 2

7:36pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Rooflas wrote:
We've not won a prem league home game when Spider-man hasn't played?!
The Everton game is a real indication on our progress,we are close to them in quality,but have we got there finishing power?
With Dani exiled, Jay crocked and Gaston injured as well and no Morgan it's going to be very hard. We know we don't have the depth and that can't be fixed until the summer so let's hope we can get something out of it.
Tickets have sold out, the fans deserve something.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rooflas[/bold] wrote: We've not won a prem league home game when Spider-man hasn't played?![/p][/quote]The Everton game is a real indication on our progress,we are close to them in quality,but have we got there finishing power?[/p][/quote]With Dani exiled, Jay crocked and Gaston injured as well and no Morgan it's going to be very hard. We know we don't have the depth and that can't be fixed until the summer so let's hope we can get something out of it.[/p][/quote]Tickets have sold out, the fans deserve something. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

slugger wrote:
A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right !
I don't think we could afford Rooney.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right ![/p][/quote]I don't think we could afford Rooney. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

7:49pm Fri 25 Apr 14

slugger says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right !
I don't think we could afford Rooney.
Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right ![/p][/quote]I don't think we could afford Rooney.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole . slugger
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Fri 25 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

slugger wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right !
I don't think we could afford Rooney.
Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .
Let's hope our lot are a bit foolish then and keep what is ours.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right ![/p][/quote]I don't think we could afford Rooney.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .[/p][/quote]Let's hope our lot are a bit foolish then and keep what is ours. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

7:58pm Fri 25 Apr 14

slugger says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right !
I don't think we could afford Rooney.
Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .
Let's hope our lot are a bit foolish then and keep what is ours.
Don't get me wrong , I agree 100% ......... Just saying .
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right ![/p][/quote]I don't think we could afford Rooney.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .[/p][/quote]Let's hope our lot are a bit foolish then and keep what is ours.[/p][/quote]Don't get me wrong , I agree 100% ......... Just saying . slugger
  • Score: 1

8:05pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

slugger wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right !
I don't think we could afford Rooney.
Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .
Let's hope our lot are a bit foolish then and keep what is ours.
Don't get me wrong , I agree 100% ......... Just saying .
Slugger is of course right but there are inherent risks involved. We sold Oxo for something like £18m with the add ons (I know he chose to leave) and we bought Dani for much the same price - bad business. An offer of say £30m for Luke = Dani plus Gaston. I'd sooner keep Luke.

I thought Fellaini single handedly destroyed us last season and seriously rated him. All over the park he was their best defender, midfielder and striker. Man U splash £27m and he flops!

Sooner keep the talent we know is already performing for the Saints.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right ![/p][/quote]I don't think we could afford Rooney.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .[/p][/quote]Let's hope our lot are a bit foolish then and keep what is ours.[/p][/quote]Don't get me wrong , I agree 100% ......... Just saying .[/p][/quote]Slugger is of course right but there are inherent risks involved. We sold Oxo for something like £18m with the add ons (I know he chose to leave) and we bought Dani for much the same price - bad business. An offer of say £30m for Luke = Dani plus Gaston. I'd sooner keep Luke. I thought Fellaini single handedly destroyed us last season and seriously rated him. All over the park he was their best defender, midfielder and striker. Man U splash £27m and he flops! Sooner keep the talent we know is already performing for the Saints. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

8:09pm Fri 25 Apr 14

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
slugger wrote:
A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right !
I don't think we could afford Rooney.
Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .
Let's hope our lot are a bit foolish then and keep what is ours.
Don't get me wrong , I agree 100% ......... Just saying .
Slugger is of course right but there are inherent risks involved. We sold Oxo for something like £18m with the add ons (I know he chose to leave) and we bought Dani for much the same price - bad business. An offer of say £30m for Luke = Dani plus Gaston. I'd sooner keep Luke.

I thought Fellaini single handedly destroyed us last season and seriously rated him. All over the park he was their best defender, midfielder and striker. Man U splash £27m and he flops!

Sooner keep the talent we know is already performing for the Saints.
Absolutely , better the devil you know .
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: A very encouraging statement imo ........... I'm also aware that EVERYTHING is for sale if the price is right ![/p][/quote]I don't think we could afford Rooney.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't want him (well past his best) ....... My point is that any business would be foolish to not consider an offer that could turn out to be to the benefit of the whole .[/p][/quote]Let's hope our lot are a bit foolish then and keep what is ours.[/p][/quote]Don't get me wrong , I agree 100% ......... Just saying .[/p][/quote]Slugger is of course right but there are inherent risks involved. We sold Oxo for something like £18m with the add ons (I know he chose to leave) and we bought Dani for much the same price - bad business. An offer of say £30m for Luke = Dani plus Gaston. I'd sooner keep Luke. I thought Fellaini single handedly destroyed us last season and seriously rated him. All over the park he was their best defender, midfielder and striker. Man U splash £27m and he flops! Sooner keep the talent we know is already performing for the Saints.[/p][/quote]Absolutely , better the devil you know . slugger
  • Score: 6

8:12pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

I'm bored with all this 'he said that, he said this' stuff. When are we going to get some real news? Roll on the summer for some proper transfer news...

;)
I'm bored with all this 'he said that, he said this' stuff. When are we going to get some real news? Roll on the summer for some proper transfer news... ;) Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 1

10:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
I'm bored with all this 'he said that, he said this' stuff. When are we going to get some real news? Roll on the summer for some proper transfer news...

;)
Don't hold your breath. It'll probably be the same as all transfer windows. All last minute stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: I'm bored with all this 'he said that, he said this' stuff. When are we going to get some real news? Roll on the summer for some proper transfer news... ;)[/p][/quote]Don't hold your breath. It'll probably be the same as all transfer windows. All last minute stuff. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

11:08pm Fri 25 Apr 14

localnews says...

At least we'll know if the board are trustworthy or not after that statement.Let's hope none of our lads are sold off to the so called "Big clubs"
At least we'll know if the board are trustworthy or not after that statement.Let's hope none of our lads are sold off to the so called "Big clubs" localnews
  • Score: 0

10:36am Sat 26 Apr 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Well we got a statement that we have been asking for but is it not strong enough 'do not intend a firesale' says to me that one or two will go.
No mention of anything positive from Les Reed. Acknowledge that they do not want to declare any targets but could have said that new arrivals are expected.
Why has Ralph gone so quiet after arriving with an intent of new openness.
Still think that the new regime need to make an impact and a statement of intent by signing a couple of top players as soon as the new window opens and the other 3 we need before the World Cup starts. To do this they need to resolve the manager situation now otherwise potential players may be deterred by the uncertainty.
It sounds as if they do intend to sell one or two of our star players, if so they must get the replacements plus the others required in beforehand so as to settle the other players down.
Come on Ralph, Les and the new board the time for action is NOW, be prepared for the start of the transfer window do'nt wait until after the World Cup as that will be a panic period.
Well we got a statement that we have been asking for but is it not strong enough 'do not intend a firesale' says to me that one or two will go. No mention of anything positive from Les Reed. Acknowledge that they do not want to declare any targets but could have said that new arrivals are expected. Why has Ralph gone so quiet after arriving with an intent of new openness. Still think that the new regime need to make an impact and a statement of intent by signing a couple of top players as soon as the new window opens and the other 3 we need before the World Cup starts. To do this they need to resolve the manager situation now otherwise potential players may be deterred by the uncertainty. It sounds as if they do intend to sell one or two of our star players, if so they must get the replacements plus the others required in beforehand so as to settle the other players down. Come on Ralph, Les and the new board the time for action is NOW, be prepared for the start of the transfer window do'nt wait until after the World Cup as that will be a panic period. NC Fan4Life
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11:18am Sat 26 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Well we got a statement that we have been asking for but is it not strong enough 'do not intend a firesale' says to me that one or two will go.
No mention of anything positive from Les Reed. Acknowledge that they do not want to declare any targets but could have said that new arrivals are expected.
Why has Ralph gone so quiet after arriving with an intent of new openness.
Still think that the new regime need to make an impact and a statement of intent by signing a couple of top players as soon as the new window opens and the other 3 we need before the World Cup starts. To do this they need to resolve the manager situation now otherwise potential players may be deterred by the uncertainty.
It sounds as if they do intend to sell one or two of our star players, if so they must get the replacements plus the others required in beforehand so as to settle the other players down.
Come on Ralph, Les and the new board the time for action is NOW, be prepared for the start of the transfer window do'nt wait until after the World Cup as that will be a panic period.
Our fans deserve to understand there is not going to be a fire sale here and we have repeatedly said that.
so he didn't say `do not intend` it was a categoric `no fire sale`.
they cant say new targets are expected, because the window isn't yet open and they might still be finalising the target list, and why would they do a deal now when a player still might pick up a J-rod style injury?
Ralph has `gone quiet` because there isn't much to say, what do you want to hear him say? he doesn't need to say anything about the transfer activity because les reed did yesterday.
your right though and 1 or 2 players might go, that's why les didn't say `we aren't selling anyone`, but the players that are allowed to go will be the ones that MP doesn't want to keep. les said that as well, " No player will be brought into or leave this club without Mauricio and I discussing it and his agreement." so if MP wants to keep players then they aren't going anywhere.
I don't know how much more of a positive statement you want from the club, the club cant force MP to talk about a contract. They might have assurances from him that he is fully intending to sign a contract, especially as he has assurances that no players will come in or out without his say so. if they were thinking he might leave why would they give him control over transfers?
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Well we got a statement that we have been asking for but is it not strong enough 'do not intend a firesale' says to me that one or two will go. No mention of anything positive from Les Reed. Acknowledge that they do not want to declare any targets but could have said that new arrivals are expected. Why has Ralph gone so quiet after arriving with an intent of new openness. Still think that the new regime need to make an impact and a statement of intent by signing a couple of top players as soon as the new window opens and the other 3 we need before the World Cup starts. To do this they need to resolve the manager situation now otherwise potential players may be deterred by the uncertainty. It sounds as if they do intend to sell one or two of our star players, if so they must get the replacements plus the others required in beforehand so as to settle the other players down. Come on Ralph, Les and the new board the time for action is NOW, be prepared for the start of the transfer window do'nt wait until after the World Cup as that will be a panic period.[/p][/quote]Our fans deserve to understand there is not going to be a fire sale here and we have repeatedly said that. so he didn't say `do not intend` it was a categoric `no fire sale`. they cant say new targets are expected, because the window isn't yet open and they might still be finalising the target list, and why would they do a deal now when a player still might pick up a J-rod style injury? Ralph has `gone quiet` because there isn't much to say, what do you want to hear him say? he doesn't need to say anything about the transfer activity because les reed did yesterday. your right though and 1 or 2 players might go, that's why les didn't say `we aren't selling anyone`, but the players that are allowed to go will be the ones that MP doesn't want to keep. les said that as well, " No player will be brought into or leave this club without Mauricio and I discussing it and his agreement." so if MP wants to keep players then they aren't going anywhere. I don't know how much more of a positive statement you want from the club, the club cant force MP to talk about a contract. They might have assurances from him that he is fully intending to sign a contract, especially as he has assurances that no players will come in or out without his say so. if they were thinking he might leave why would they give him control over transfers? el caballo santos101
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