Saints fume over refereeing decisions

Basingstoke Gazette: Saints players appeal against City's early penalty. Saints players appeal against City's early penalty.

Mauricio Pochettino was furious over key refereeing decisions that he felt went against his side as they were beaten 4-1 by title chasing Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium.

The Saints boss was angry with the decision to award City an early penalty as Edin Dzeko went down in the box under the challenge of Jose Fonte while the second goal was clearly well offside.

“I think there’s two decisions that killed the game - the penalty that we conceded and the second goal. Those two moments killed the game,” fumed Pochettino.

“The only positive I can think of is that the first 45 minutes we were superior to a team that is actually equipped to win the Premier League.

“But to beat a team like Manchester City, a team that is full of world class players, not only do you need to have the perfect game but also the refereeing decisions have to be fair and that did not happen.

“I have just seen it on TV and I don’t think you can give a penalty like that after just two minutes.

“I think it’s unexplainable and I think it’s not right.

“The second decision that did not go our way was a clear offside and it was clearly two metres offside and it did seem like a type of game you play at school where you get these dumb refereeing decisions.”

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3:52pm Sat 5 Apr 14

husky-1 says...

""""""""REFEREE ALWAYS HURT THE SAINTS"""""" ... when in doubt, honk against the saints ... not just Mark Clattenburg ... other also .... definitely hurt the saints ..

Saints dominated the city ... but an illegal goal... more rodriguez injury ... more damage referee .. uffff

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""""""""REFEREE ALWAYS HURT THE SAINTS"""""" ... when in doubt, honk against the saints ... not just Mark Clattenburg ... other also .... definitely hurt the saints .. Saints dominated the city ... but an illegal goal... more rodriguez injury ... more damage referee .. uffff (google translator) husky-1
  • Score: 4

4:00pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

Dumb refereeing decisions.

Love it MP.
Dumb refereeing decisions. Love it MP. Costa Baz
  • Score: 18

4:02pm Sat 5 Apr 14

husky-1 says...

""""""POCHETTINO WORDS""""" ... CRYSTAL ... is what we saw all..

key mistakes of the referee, favoring a great team like the city
""""""POCHETTINO WORDS""""" ... CRYSTAL ... is what we saw all.. key mistakes of the referee, favoring a great team like the city husky-1
  • Score: 9

4:35pm Sat 5 Apr 14

meechy says...

No dumb refereeing decisions, just a dumb linesman
No dumb refereeing decisions, just a dumb linesman meechy
  • Score: 7

4:50pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Cincinnati says...

Second goal was the turning point and it was clearly offside. But Gazzaniga? He just doesn't improve. I hope the coaching staff can see some positives in him that I am not able to see. If Boruc can't go next week against Cardiff I think that I would give Cropper a try.
Second goal was the turning point and it was clearly offside. But Gazzaniga? He just doesn't improve. I hope the coaching staff can see some positives in him that I am not able to see. If Boruc can't go next week against Cardiff I think that I would give Cropper a try. Cincinnati
  • Score: 18

4:51pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Cincinnati says...

I thought the ref had a good game but can't the same about the lineman on that second City goal.
I thought the ref had a good game but can't the same about the lineman on that second City goal. Cincinnati
  • Score: 4

5:09pm Sat 5 Apr 14

meechy says...

Cincinnati wrote:
I thought the ref had a good game but can't the same about the lineman on that second City goal.
I agree
[quote][p][bold]Cincinnati[/bold] wrote: I thought the ref had a good game but can't the same about the lineman on that second City goal.[/p][/quote]I agree meechy
  • Score: 3

5:17pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

MP was so angry he started speaking English!
MP was so angry he started speaking English! Costa Baz
  • Score: 24

5:37pm Sat 5 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely

.... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!!

Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.
Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely .... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!! Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed. redsnapper
  • Score: 28

6:25pm Sat 5 Apr 14

turicky says...

redsnapper wrote:
Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely

.... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!!

Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.
I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely .... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!! Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.[/p][/quote]I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event. turicky
  • Score: 14

7:28pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Golden_Salamander says...

I think somebody on BT said the joke linesman was Mick McDonough, he is already pencilled in to do a game on Tuesday night (Barnsley v burnley) so no ban for him.

He was also running the line in the reverse fixture at St Marys but I don't remember any issues then. His previous 2 visits to the Etihad ended with 5-0 and 6-0 wins so I wonder if any of those goals were 5 yards offside.
I think somebody on BT said the joke linesman was Mick McDonough, he is already pencilled in to do a game on Tuesday night (Barnsley v burnley) so no ban for him. He was also running the line in the reverse fixture at St Marys but I don't remember any issues then. His previous 2 visits to the Etihad ended with 5-0 and 6-0 wins so I wonder if any of those goals were 5 yards offside. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 4

8:11pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

turicky wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely

.... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!!

Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.
I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.
I'd agree with that. I never had Djecko down as a cheating diver but he proved today that he is. Fonte should not have stuck his leg out the way he did but he didn't make contact. Djecko took two more paces and then went down, thereby giving yet another opportunity for a ref to favour a "big team" at home.He was blindsided and had no idea if contact was made or not. As for the second that must be the most obvious offside in the history of football. The lino should have given it but it was so far offside that Foy should have seen it as well. I don't think MoPo is wrong. We were the better side but the ,momentum change caused by incompetent officials has yet again cost us dear. Time for the FA to wake up and start really punishing such obvious errors.
[quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely .... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!! Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.[/p][/quote]I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.[/p][/quote]I'd agree with that. I never had Djecko down as a cheating diver but he proved today that he is. Fonte should not have stuck his leg out the way he did but he didn't make contact. Djecko took two more paces and then went down, thereby giving yet another opportunity for a ref to favour a "big team" at home.He was blindsided and had no idea if contact was made or not. As for the second that must be the most obvious offside in the history of football. The lino should have given it but it was so far offside that Foy should have seen it as well. I don't think MoPo is wrong. We were the better side but the ,momentum change caused by incompetent officials has yet again cost us dear. Time for the FA to wake up and start really punishing such obvious errors. Clever Dick
  • Score: 15

8:40pm Sat 5 Apr 14

peregrine73 says...

Decisions often go against you in games,right or wrong it shouldn't distract from the fact that are goalkeeper isn't premiership standard,its not personal, he did his best.Slack defence against city results in goals for them,MP should focus on the performance of the team.WIP for the team,defence strengthening a priority!.
Decisions often go against you in games,right or wrong it shouldn't distract from the fact that are goalkeeper isn't premiership standard,its not personal, he did his best.Slack defence against city results in goals for them,MP should focus on the performance of the team.WIP for the team,defence strengthening a priority!. peregrine73
  • Score: 0

8:50pm Sat 5 Apr 14

saint Compo says...

I don't know what everyone is so surprised about. The officials always help the big clubs because they're afraid of negative comments in the press next day.

A soft penalty to start with; Saints really should practice their diving skills if they want to compete for a top 4 finish.

I doubt the linesman 'missed' the offside; he froze with fear and let it go.

Referees and linesmen get away with errors while everyone else has to pay the price for them.

So sad about Jay. Let's hope it's not as bad as it looks and he can still be in contention for a place on the plane to Brazil.

COYR
I don't know what everyone is so surprised about. The officials always help the big clubs because they're afraid of negative comments in the press next day. A soft penalty to start with; Saints really should practice their diving skills if they want to compete for a top 4 finish. I doubt the linesman 'missed' the offside; he froze with fear and let it go. Referees and linesmen get away with errors while everyone else has to pay the price for them. So sad about Jay. Let's hope it's not as bad as it looks and he can still be in contention for a place on the plane to Brazil. COYR saint Compo
  • Score: 15

9:08pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.
Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night. Clever Dick
  • Score: 8

9:15pm Sat 5 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.
Perghaps if he got himself a black cat it might bring him some luck.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.[/p][/quote]Perghaps if he got himself a black cat it might bring him some luck. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:23pm Sat 5 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.
Perghaps if he got himself a black cat it might bring him some luck.
I have no idea where that extra g in perhaps came from, I don't think I typed it! Fat finger syndrome I guess.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.[/p][/quote]Perghaps if he got himself a black cat it might bring him some luck.[/p][/quote]I have no idea where that extra g in perhaps came from, I don't think I typed it! Fat finger syndrome I guess. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:33pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Positively4thStreet says...

turicky wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely

.... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!!

Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.
I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.
I may be wrong,but it appeared to me watching the replay,that Fonte may have been trying to back heel the ball away from Djeko. Still a dive by the forward though.
[quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely .... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!! Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.[/p][/quote]I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.[/p][/quote]I may be wrong,but it appeared to me watching the replay,that Fonte may have been trying to back heel the ball away from Djeko. Still a dive by the forward though. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 8

10:06pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.
Perghaps if he got himself a black cat it might bring him some luck.
I have no idea where that extra g in perhaps came from, I don't think I typed it! Fat finger syndrome I guess.
Yeagh, igt oftgen happgens.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.[/p][/quote]Perghaps if he got himself a black cat it might bring him some luck.[/p][/quote]I have no idea where that extra g in perhaps came from, I don't think I typed it! Fat finger syndrome I guess.[/p][/quote]Yeagh, igt oftgen happgens. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

10:44pm Sat 5 Apr 14

miltonarcher says...

Come on guys, Fonte made it easy for the city player to go to ground, the ref had to give it from where he was. Linesman should apologise for not flagging for their second goal. Gazza, sorry son, you are not ready for the prem.

Perhaps this result will have a silver lining, it proves the squad needs strengthening. J rod, we are all thinking of you tonight. C O Y R !
Come on guys, Fonte made it easy for the city player to go to ground, the ref had to give it from where he was. Linesman should apologise for not flagging for their second goal. Gazza, sorry son, you are not ready for the prem. Perhaps this result will have a silver lining, it proves the squad needs strengthening. J rod, we are all thinking of you tonight. C O Y R ! miltonarcher
  • Score: 8

11:15pm Sat 5 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

peregrine73 wrote:
Decisions often go against you in games,right or wrong it shouldn't distract from the fact that are goalkeeper isn't premiership standard,its not personal, he did his best.Slack defence against city results in goals for them,MP should focus on the performance of the team.WIP for the team,defence strengthening a priority!.
no one has said Gazza is prem standard, but what do you suggest MP does? he`s got to start with a keeper and the only 2 he had available today were cropper and Gazza, the third and forth choice keepers. Gazza was brought as a prospect for the future and through no fault of his own he has had to play today, and in the past. not many teams legislate for having both first and second choice keepers out at the same time, and not many could cope as well as we have.
its not Gazza`s fault that both AB and kelv were injured at the same time and we shouldn't make him the scapegoat whenever he plays. some fans posted that it was guaranteed we would lose as soon as he was picked, I however support every player that pulls the shirt on, even if they might not be the best. that's what I call supporting, if others feel different then that's their choice.
your right though, decisions do go for and against you, and sometimes you don't mind the occasional marginal decision going the wrong way, their pen for instance, did the player dive? absolutely but fonte gave him the opportunity to dive, I still think that he dived though and he should have stayed on his feet but I can accept that one. but the second goal? absolutely not, how can a professional linesman not see that as offside? even if he couldn't see who the ball came off he only had to have a 20 second chat with the ref after the goal was scored and it would have been pulled back. that's whats so annoying with that goal. refs and linesman have 2 way radios nowadays so they didn't even have to get together.
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: Decisions often go against you in games,right or wrong it shouldn't distract from the fact that are goalkeeper isn't premiership standard,its not personal, he did his best.Slack defence against city results in goals for them,MP should focus on the performance of the team.WIP for the team,defence strengthening a priority!.[/p][/quote]no one has said Gazza is prem standard, but what do you suggest MP does? he`s got to start with a keeper and the only 2 he had available today were cropper and Gazza, the third and forth choice keepers. Gazza was brought as a prospect for the future and through no fault of his own he has had to play today, and in the past. not many teams legislate for having both first and second choice keepers out at the same time, and not many could cope as well as we have. its not Gazza`s fault that both AB and kelv were injured at the same time and we shouldn't make him the scapegoat whenever he plays. some fans posted that it was guaranteed we would lose as soon as he was picked, I however support every player that pulls the shirt on, even if they might not be the best. that's what I call supporting, if others feel different then that's their choice. your right though, decisions do go for and against you, and sometimes you don't mind the occasional marginal decision going the wrong way, their pen for instance, did the player dive? absolutely but fonte gave him the opportunity to dive, I still think that he dived though and he should have stayed on his feet but I can accept that one. but the second goal? absolutely not, how can a professional linesman not see that as offside? even if he couldn't see who the ball came off he only had to have a 20 second chat with the ref after the goal was scored and it would have been pulled back. that's whats so annoying with that goal. refs and linesman have 2 way radios nowadays so they didn't even have to get together. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 12

1:00am Sun 6 Apr 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Decisions often go against you in games,right or wrong it shouldn't distract from the fact that are goalkeeper isn't premiership standard,its not personal, he did his best.Slack defence against city results in goals for them,MP should focus on the performance of the team.WIP for the team,defence strengthening a priority!.
no one has said Gazza is prem standard, but what do you suggest MP does? he`s got to start with a keeper and the only 2 he had available today were cropper and Gazza, the third and forth choice keepers. Gazza was brought as a prospect for the future and through no fault of his own he has had to play today, and in the past. not many teams legislate for having both first and second choice keepers out at the same time, and not many could cope as well as we have.
its not Gazza`s fault that both AB and kelv were injured at the same time and we shouldn't make him the scapegoat whenever he plays. some fans posted that it was guaranteed we would lose as soon as he was picked, I however support every player that pulls the shirt on, even if they might not be the best. that's what I call supporting, if others feel different then that's their choice.
your right though, decisions do go for and against you, and sometimes you don't mind the occasional marginal decision going the wrong way, their pen for instance, did the player dive? absolutely but fonte gave him the opportunity to dive, I still think that he dived though and he should have stayed on his feet but I can accept that one. but the second goal? absolutely not, how can a professional linesman not see that as offside? even if he couldn't see who the ball came off he only had to have a 20 second chat with the ref after the goal was scored and it would have been pulled back. that's whats so annoying with that goal. refs and linesman have 2 way radios nowadays so they didn't even have to get together.
Well said that man.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: Decisions often go against you in games,right or wrong it shouldn't distract from the fact that are goalkeeper isn't premiership standard,its not personal, he did his best.Slack defence against city results in goals for them,MP should focus on the performance of the team.WIP for the team,defence strengthening a priority!.[/p][/quote]no one has said Gazza is prem standard, but what do you suggest MP does? he`s got to start with a keeper and the only 2 he had available today were cropper and Gazza, the third and forth choice keepers. Gazza was brought as a prospect for the future and through no fault of his own he has had to play today, and in the past. not many teams legislate for having both first and second choice keepers out at the same time, and not many could cope as well as we have. its not Gazza`s fault that both AB and kelv were injured at the same time and we shouldn't make him the scapegoat whenever he plays. some fans posted that it was guaranteed we would lose as soon as he was picked, I however support every player that pulls the shirt on, even if they might not be the best. that's what I call supporting, if others feel different then that's their choice. your right though, decisions do go for and against you, and sometimes you don't mind the occasional marginal decision going the wrong way, their pen for instance, did the player dive? absolutely but fonte gave him the opportunity to dive, I still think that he dived though and he should have stayed on his feet but I can accept that one. but the second goal? absolutely not, how can a professional linesman not see that as offside? even if he couldn't see who the ball came off he only had to have a 20 second chat with the ref after the goal was scored and it would have been pulled back. that's whats so annoying with that goal. refs and linesman have 2 way radios nowadays so they didn't even have to get together.[/p][/quote]Well said that man. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 5

6:07am Sun 6 Apr 14

Bwana23 says...

turicky wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely

.... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!!

Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.
I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.
Please read the Laws of Football. Nowhere doe sit mention contact: The wording is trips or attempts to trip, kicks or attempts to kick. Both the foregoing cover what Fonte did!! You could see it was an intentional attempt to stop the player.
[quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely .... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!! Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.[/p][/quote]I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.[/p][/quote]Please read the Laws of Football. Nowhere doe sit mention contact: The wording is trips or attempts to trip, kicks or attempts to kick. Both the foregoing cover what Fonte did!! You could see it was an intentional attempt to stop the player. Bwana23
  • Score: -2

7:01am Sun 6 Apr 14

ctsaint says...

Bwana23 wrote:
turicky wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely

.... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!!

Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.
I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.
Please read the Laws of Football. Nowhere doe sit mention contact: The wording is trips or attempts to trip, kicks or attempts to kick. Both the foregoing cover what Fonte did!! You could see it was an intentional attempt to stop the player.
What I could see was an attempt to flick the ball away , and a withdrawal of the foot prior to Djeco even touching it, there was no contact, he had MIS controlled it and he threw himself at the foot and the ground, it's a disgrace to the player and to the official for buying it.
[quote][p][bold]Bwana23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely .... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!! Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.[/p][/quote]I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.[/p][/quote]Please read the Laws of Football. Nowhere doe sit mention contact: The wording is trips or attempts to trip, kicks or attempts to kick. Both the foregoing cover what Fonte did!! You could see it was an intentional attempt to stop the player.[/p][/quote]What I could see was an attempt to flick the ball away , and a withdrawal of the foot prior to Djeco even touching it, there was no contact, he had MIS controlled it and he threw himself at the foot and the ground, it's a disgrace to the player and to the official for buying it. ctsaint
  • Score: 4

10:45am Sun 6 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bwana23 wrote:
turicky wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely

.... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!!

Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.
I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.
Please read the Laws of Football. Nowhere doe sit mention contact: The wording is trips or attempts to trip, kicks or attempts to kick. Both the foregoing cover what Fonte did!! You could see it was an intentional attempt to stop the player.
I am not an expert on the Laws of the game in this respect, but I think they say to be a Penalty there should have been an attempt with intent to foul, Fonte did not deliberately try to foul the player, but foolishly left a trailing leg out which the player gratefully accepted as invitation to trip over it and go down, a subtle difference and a lot of Referees wouldn't have bought it and may even have booked the City player for simulation, I have seen it go either way throughout the season.
[quote][p][bold]Bwana23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]turicky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Fonte is a Champonship material, what he did was ridiculous .... and then the even dumber lino wrecked our chances completely .... but worst of all is J Rods horrible looking injury..sincerely hope it is not a career wrecking one!! Best of luck J from 10000's of Saints fans and our fingers are crossed.[/p][/quote]I suggest you have another look at the "ridiculous Fonte challenge" and you'll see no contact whatsoever. We were cheated, as always by a so-called top player. The professional game is full of them. It's too later after a game I know but the powers that be should have the ability to impose some sort of punishment after the event.[/p][/quote]Please read the Laws of Football. Nowhere doe sit mention contact: The wording is trips or attempts to trip, kicks or attempts to kick. Both the foregoing cover what Fonte did!! You could see it was an intentional attempt to stop the player.[/p][/quote]I am not an expert on the Laws of the game in this respect, but I think they say to be a Penalty there should have been an attempt with intent to foul, Fonte did not deliberately try to foul the player, but foolishly left a trailing leg out which the player gratefully accepted as invitation to trip over it and go down, a subtle difference and a lot of Referees wouldn't have bought it and may even have booked the City player for simulation, I have seen it go either way throughout the season. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:01am Sun 6 Apr 14

miltonnroad76 says...

Jeez youd think wed got beaten by some **** team..we were playing the probable league champions and played them off the park..yes players made mistakes thats how goals are scored and why man city are top they take the chances why pick on individuals..none mentioned fonte s brilliant goal saving tackle he made in the pen area near the end. They did us proud and lets hope for jay and that sam can show us what hes made of!
Jeez youd think wed got beaten by some **** team..we were playing the probable league champions and played them off the park..yes players made mistakes thats how goals are scored and why man city are top they take the chances why pick on individuals..none mentioned fonte s brilliant goal saving tackle he made in the pen area near the end. They did us proud and lets hope for jay and that sam can show us what hes made of! miltonnroad76
  • Score: 6

11:03am Sun 6 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.
Perghaps if he got himself a black cat it might bring him some luck.
I have no idea where that extra g in perhaps came from, I don't think I typed it! Fat finger syndrome I guess.
Yeagh, igt oftgen happgens.
All to (too) often, g it annoys me when it does.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Never seen MoPo so angry. If he has a cat it might be a good idea if it stays out all night.[/p][/quote]Perghaps if he got himself a black cat it might bring him some luck.[/p][/quote]I have no idea where that extra g in perhaps came from, I don't think I typed it! Fat finger syndrome I guess.[/p][/quote]Yeagh, igt oftgen happgens.[/p][/quote]All to (too) often, g it annoys me when it does. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:08am Sun 6 Apr 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Anyone who has played the game knows its easy to stay on your feet in that situation if you want to, he dived, end of
Anyone who has played the game knows its easy to stay on your feet in that situation if you want to, he dived, end of worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 6

11:32am Sun 6 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

It's been a long two days with the usual amount of official-induced frustration but with lots of possitives.

JAY
First of all, good luck Jay. Let's hope it isn't as bad as early reports suggest.

FANS
It was good to meet up for breakfast with Warrens and 'Mrs Warrens'. Have a safe flight home (if 'she' ever stops shopping, Warrens).

Also good to enjoy an Indian in the Curry Mile with Seed, young Seed and Bad Bill and friends. I wish I could have put some of that main dish in my tank for the journey home. Friday evening was bad enough with the queues and roadworks, the return was hampered by motorway closures around Brum.

It was also good to bump into a few others from York and the travel club we've met previously.

ETIHAD
Second visit, nice ground, nice fans, average atmosphere. If SMS is extended, let's be careful. I'm all for getting more people interested and building the fan base but 15,000 passionate fans at The Dell was better than 20,000 passionates and 12,000 voyeurs at SMS; 20,000 of each would be dire. The club needs to think hard about how to address this. (part 2 to follow)
It's been a long two days with the usual amount of official-induced frustration but with lots of possitives. JAY First of all, good luck Jay. Let's hope it isn't as bad as early reports suggest. FANS It was good to meet up for breakfast with Warrens and 'Mrs Warrens'. Have a safe flight home (if 'she' ever stops shopping, Warrens). Also good to enjoy an Indian in the Curry Mile with Seed, young Seed and Bad Bill and friends. I wish I could have put some of that main dish in my tank for the journey home. Friday evening was bad enough with the queues and roadworks, the return was hampered by motorway closures around Brum. It was also good to bump into a few others from York and the travel club we've met previously. ETIHAD Second visit, nice ground, nice fans, average atmosphere. If SMS is extended, let's be careful. I'm all for getting more people interested and building the fan base but 15,000 passionate fans at The Dell was better than 20,000 passionates and 12,000 voyeurs at SMS; 20,000 of each would be dire. The club needs to think hard about how to address this. (part 2 to follow) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

11:56am Sun 6 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

PLAYERS - I haven't seen MotD.

Gazza.
Of course it was a shock to see that Artur was out. Such a big game, great attacking players, plenty of goals in the side, the risk of a drubbing - and the early goal. I'll be first to say that what I've seen suggest he's no better than Bart. First half, he froze, he looked scared and didn't want the ball and the defence looked unsure of him. He's rusty and this was certainly not the best time to get a recall. But he responded well second half, made a couple of decent saves and was only partly at fault for the fourth - defence didn't really do their job ahead of him. His big mistake was the third, but it came on the back of the shock of how the second was allowed and it was a hell of a cross. It's tough at the top and if that's where we want to be, we may well have to find an upcoming goalie who can develop under Artur for a season and step up within two.

DEFENCE - lest we forget, this was a world class attack. Not sure where to lay blame for fourth. Maybe Jose should have got a foot in. Maybe Luke should have cut out the crosses for the third and fourth but that's harsh.

Luke
Solid, but must improve his crossing, which was awful (Those 2 quality crosses which brought 2 city goals made half the difference).

Callum
Lost his man from corners a bit but did well down the flanks.

Jose
Silly boy (not saying it WAS a pen), but did well after the penalty - great late tackle.

Dejan
Pretty solid.

Midfield/Attack
The 3 musketeers - superb, just lacking a goal from open play.

Morgan/Stephen/Jack/
JWP
Really made an outstanding midfield look second best. All were brilliant on the ball and in the tackle (JWP's mistimed one on cry baby Tourne aside). I think Jack may have pencilled himself onto Roy's reserve list.

As with the fullbacks, the only thing lacking was the killer ball. To outplay City from the fifth minute through to the 45th and again for 30 minutes after the restart was a brilliant effort.

Alas, for all our endeavour, to give Hart so little to do was frustrating.

CONTEXT
How much did Milner cost? How much did City's starting 11 cost?

Once Jay was stretchered off, if my maths is right, the 11 cost about £12-15m in transfer fees and ran most of the game. We just didn't get lucky ........
(part 3 to follow)
PLAYERS - I haven't seen MotD. Gazza. Of course it was a shock to see that Artur was out. Such a big game, great attacking players, plenty of goals in the side, the risk of a drubbing - and the early goal. I'll be first to say that what I've seen suggest he's no better than Bart. First half, he froze, he looked scared and didn't want the ball and the defence looked unsure of him. He's rusty and this was certainly not the best time to get a recall. But he responded well second half, made a couple of decent saves and was only partly at fault for the fourth - defence didn't really do their job ahead of him. His big mistake was the third, but it came on the back of the shock of how the second was allowed and it was a hell of a cross. It's tough at the top and if that's where we want to be, we may well have to find an upcoming goalie who can develop under Artur for a season and step up within two. DEFENCE - lest we forget, this was a world class attack. Not sure where to lay blame for fourth. Maybe Jose should have got a foot in. Maybe Luke should have cut out the crosses for the third and fourth but that's harsh. Luke Solid, but must improve his crossing, which was awful (Those 2 quality crosses which brought 2 city goals made half the difference). Callum Lost his man from corners a bit but did well down the flanks. Jose Silly boy (not saying it WAS a pen), but did well after the penalty - great late tackle. Dejan Pretty solid. Midfield/Attack The 3 musketeers - superb, just lacking a goal from open play. Morgan/Stephen/Jack/ JWP Really made an outstanding midfield look second best. All were brilliant on the ball and in the tackle (JWP's mistimed one on cry baby Tourne aside). I think Jack may have pencilled himself onto Roy's reserve list. As with the fullbacks, the only thing lacking was the killer ball. To outplay City from the fifth minute through to the 45th and again for 30 minutes after the restart was a brilliant effort. Alas, for all our endeavour, to give Hart so little to do was frustrating. CONTEXT How much did Milner cost? How much did City's starting 11 cost? Once Jay was stretchered off, if my maths is right, the 11 cost about £12-15m in transfer fees and ran most of the game. We just didn't get lucky ........ (part 3 to follow) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

12:07pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

..... And finally.

The officials. I thought Foy did okay. Not great, but okay.

The pen? Some you get, some you don't. It was right in front of me (that's me in the pic above on the far right, third row down with a Saints cap and hidden stripped shirt). As Jose brought his leg back, I thought 'HELP!' I've seen a quick replay and can see both sides. The problem is, this season nearly ALL 50-50s have gone against us. It HASN'T evened itself out. Is that 3 pens conceded by Jose? This was the most crucial but all have been, at best, controversial. What is clear is that Dzeko looked for it and 'won' it and Jose gave him that opportunity.

The offside. Un-bl00dy-believable
. If a lino had missed that in my son's match, I'd have wondered what he was dreaming about to have missed it. The guy should be dropped down a level. It wasn't tight, it wasn't difficult to see, it was as clear an offside as you will see.

Well, time to head out. Forget Norgie being a bad omen when he crosses the border, the problem is when the Strassies come to town. Someone should pay us to stay away from away matches! When does Swansea go on sale again?
..... And finally. The officials. I thought Foy did okay. Not great, but okay. The pen? Some you get, some you don't. It was right in front of me (that's me in the pic above on the far right, third row down with a Saints cap and hidden stripped shirt). As Jose brought his leg back, I thought 'HELP!' I've seen a quick replay and can see both sides. The problem is, this season nearly ALL 50-50s have gone against us. It HASN'T evened itself out. Is that 3 pens conceded by Jose? This was the most crucial but all have been, at best, controversial. What is clear is that Dzeko looked for it and 'won' it and Jose gave him that opportunity. The offside. Un-bl00dy-believable . If a lino had missed that in my son's match, I'd have wondered what he was dreaming about to have missed it. The guy should be dropped down a level. It wasn't tight, it wasn't difficult to see, it was as clear an offside as you will see. Well, time to head out. Forget Norgie being a bad omen when he crosses the border, the problem is when the Strassies come to town. Someone should pay us to stay away from away matches! When does Swansea go on sale again? Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

12:09pm Sun 6 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
It's been a long two days with the usual amount of official-induced frustration but with lots of possitives.

JAY
First of all, good luck Jay. Let's hope it isn't as bad as early reports suggest.

FANS
It was good to meet up for breakfast with Warrens and 'Mrs Warrens'. Have a safe flight home (if 'she' ever stops shopping, Warrens).

Also good to enjoy an Indian in the Curry Mile with Seed, young Seed and Bad Bill and friends. I wish I could have put some of that main dish in my tank for the journey home. Friday evening was bad enough with the queues and roadworks, the return was hampered by motorway closures around Brum.

It was also good to bump into a few others from York and the travel club we've met previously.

ETIHAD
Second visit, nice ground, nice fans, average atmosphere. If SMS is extended, let's be careful. I'm all for getting more people interested and building the fan base but 15,000 passionate fans at The Dell was better than 20,000 passionates and 12,000 voyeurs at SMS; 20,000 of each would be dire. The club needs to think hard about how to address this. (part 2 to follow)
Lol....
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: It's been a long two days with the usual amount of official-induced frustration but with lots of possitives. JAY First of all, good luck Jay. Let's hope it isn't as bad as early reports suggest. FANS It was good to meet up for breakfast with Warrens and 'Mrs Warrens'. Have a safe flight home (if 'she' ever stops shopping, Warrens). Also good to enjoy an Indian in the Curry Mile with Seed, young Seed and Bad Bill and friends. I wish I could have put some of that main dish in my tank for the journey home. Friday evening was bad enough with the queues and roadworks, the return was hampered by motorway closures around Brum. It was also good to bump into a few others from York and the travel club we've met previously. ETIHAD Second visit, nice ground, nice fans, average atmosphere. If SMS is extended, let's be careful. I'm all for getting more people interested and building the fan base but 15,000 passionate fans at The Dell was better than 20,000 passionates and 12,000 voyeurs at SMS; 20,000 of each would be dire. The club needs to think hard about how to address this. (part 2 to follow)[/p][/quote]Lol.... jrod11
  • Score: 0

12:26pm Sun 6 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
PLAYERS - I haven't seen MotD.

Gazza.
Of course it was a shock to see that Artur was out. Such a big game, great attacking players, plenty of goals in the side, the risk of a drubbing - and the early goal. I'll be first to say that what I've seen suggest he's no better than Bart. First half, he froze, he looked scared and didn't want the ball and the defence looked unsure of him. He's rusty and this was certainly not the best time to get a recall. But he responded well second half, made a couple of decent saves and was only partly at fault for the fourth - defence didn't really do their job ahead of him. His big mistake was the third, but it came on the back of the shock of how the second was allowed and it was a hell of a cross. It's tough at the top and if that's where we want to be, we may well have to find an upcoming goalie who can develop under Artur for a season and step up within two.

DEFENCE - lest we forget, this was a world class attack. Not sure where to lay blame for fourth. Maybe Jose should have got a foot in. Maybe Luke should have cut out the crosses for the third and fourth but that's harsh.

Luke
Solid, but must improve his crossing, which was awful (Those 2 quality crosses which brought 2 city goals made half the difference).

Callum
Lost his man from corners a bit but did well down the flanks.

Jose
Silly boy (not saying it WAS a pen), but did well after the penalty - great late tackle.

Dejan
Pretty solid.

Midfield/Attack
The 3 musketeers - superb, just lacking a goal from open play.

Morgan/Stephen/Jack/

JWP
Really made an outstanding midfield look second best. All were brilliant on the ball and in the tackle (JWP's mistimed one on cry baby Tourne aside). I think Jack may have pencilled himself onto Roy's reserve list.

As with the fullbacks, the only thing lacking was the killer ball. To outplay City from the fifth minute through to the 45th and again for 30 minutes after the restart was a brilliant effort.

Alas, for all our endeavour, to give Hart so little to do was frustrating.

CONTEXT
How much did Milner cost? How much did City's starting 11 cost?

Once Jay was stretchered off, if my maths is right, the 11 cost about £12-15m in transfer fees and ran most of the game. We just didn't get lucky ........
(part 3 to follow)
Lol...
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: PLAYERS - I haven't seen MotD. Gazza. Of course it was a shock to see that Artur was out. Such a big game, great attacking players, plenty of goals in the side, the risk of a drubbing - and the early goal. I'll be first to say that what I've seen suggest he's no better than Bart. First half, he froze, he looked scared and didn't want the ball and the defence looked unsure of him. He's rusty and this was certainly not the best time to get a recall. But he responded well second half, made a couple of decent saves and was only partly at fault for the fourth - defence didn't really do their job ahead of him. His big mistake was the third, but it came on the back of the shock of how the second was allowed and it was a hell of a cross. It's tough at the top and if that's where we want to be, we may well have to find an upcoming goalie who can develop under Artur for a season and step up within two. DEFENCE - lest we forget, this was a world class attack. Not sure where to lay blame for fourth. Maybe Jose should have got a foot in. Maybe Luke should have cut out the crosses for the third and fourth but that's harsh. Luke Solid, but must improve his crossing, which was awful (Those 2 quality crosses which brought 2 city goals made half the difference). Callum Lost his man from corners a bit but did well down the flanks. Jose Silly boy (not saying it WAS a pen), but did well after the penalty - great late tackle. Dejan Pretty solid. Midfield/Attack The 3 musketeers - superb, just lacking a goal from open play. Morgan/Stephen/Jack/ JWP Really made an outstanding midfield look second best. All were brilliant on the ball and in the tackle (JWP's mistimed one on cry baby Tourne aside). I think Jack may have pencilled himself onto Roy's reserve list. As with the fullbacks, the only thing lacking was the killer ball. To outplay City from the fifth minute through to the 45th and again for 30 minutes after the restart was a brilliant effort. Alas, for all our endeavour, to give Hart so little to do was frustrating. CONTEXT How much did Milner cost? How much did City's starting 11 cost? Once Jay was stretchered off, if my maths is right, the 11 cost about £12-15m in transfer fees and ran most of the game. We just didn't get lucky ........ (part 3 to follow)[/p][/quote]Lol... jrod11
  • Score: 0

12:28pm Sun 6 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
..... And finally.

The officials. I thought Foy did okay. Not great, but okay.

The pen? Some you get, some you don't. It was right in front of me (that's me in the pic above on the far right, third row down with a Saints cap and hidden stripped shirt). As Jose brought his leg back, I thought 'HELP!' I've seen a quick replay and can see both sides. The problem is, this season nearly ALL 50-50s have gone against us. It HASN'T evened itself out. Is that 3 pens conceded by Jose? This was the most crucial but all have been, at best, controversial. What is clear is that Dzeko looked for it and 'won' it and Jose gave him that opportunity.

The offside. Un-bl00dy-believable

. If a lino had missed that in my son's match, I'd have wondered what he was dreaming about to have missed it. The guy should be dropped down a level. It wasn't tight, it wasn't difficult to see, it was as clear an offside as you will see.

Well, time to head out. Forget Norgie being a bad omen when he crosses the border, the problem is when the Strassies come to town. Someone should pay us to stay away from away matches! When does Swansea go on sale again?
Part one was the best...
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: ..... And finally. The officials. I thought Foy did okay. Not great, but okay. The pen? Some you get, some you don't. It was right in front of me (that's me in the pic above on the far right, third row down with a Saints cap and hidden stripped shirt). As Jose brought his leg back, I thought 'HELP!' I've seen a quick replay and can see both sides. The problem is, this season nearly ALL 50-50s have gone against us. It HASN'T evened itself out. Is that 3 pens conceded by Jose? This was the most crucial but all have been, at best, controversial. What is clear is that Dzeko looked for it and 'won' it and Jose gave him that opportunity. The offside. Un-bl00dy-believable . If a lino had missed that in my son's match, I'd have wondered what he was dreaming about to have missed it. The guy should be dropped down a level. It wasn't tight, it wasn't difficult to see, it was as clear an offside as you will see. Well, time to head out. Forget Norgie being a bad omen when he crosses the border, the problem is when the Strassies come to town. Someone should pay us to stay away from away matches! When does Swansea go on sale again?[/p][/quote]Part one was the best... jrod11
  • Score: 0

3:15pm Sun 6 Apr 14

North Wales Saint says...

Strassie, I too am in the picture above, looks like the row behind you and about five to the left with a Saints scarf on. Had I known it was you could have said hello! Is it just me, or does anyone else get fed up with having to stand all match after paying top whack Citeh prices for a SEAT. When it became a legal requirement for clubs to install seats I presumed that they were meant to be used for sitting on and not standing in front of. At one time stewards would make people sit and I recall some being ejected for not complying. Now they never seem to bother. My old legs get pretty tired after a couple of hours, there was a chap in front with crutches who would probably have preferred to sit AND several children nearby who hadn' t a hope in hell of having a decent view even standing on their seats. I suppose it's the 'I' m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you' age in which we now live. Anyway rant over. Get well soon Jrod.
Strassie, I too am in the picture above, looks like the row behind you and about five to the left with a Saints scarf on. Had I known it was you could have said hello! Is it just me, or does anyone else get fed up with having to stand all match after paying top whack Citeh prices for a SEAT. When it became a legal requirement for clubs to install seats I presumed that they were meant to be used for sitting on and not standing in front of. At one time stewards would make people sit and I recall some being ejected for not complying. Now they never seem to bother. My old legs get pretty tired after a couple of hours, there was a chap in front with crutches who would probably have preferred to sit AND several children nearby who hadn' t a hope in hell of having a decent view even standing on their seats. I suppose it's the 'I' m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you' age in which we now live. Anyway rant over. Get well soon Jrod. North Wales Saint
  • Score: 2

6:16pm Sun 6 Apr 14

scprof says...

Wasn't impressed either with the Ref for Lallana not being protected at the corners.
Ref sees that Toure is all over Lallana before corner is taken, so holds up play and tells Toure off. After this, Toure stays away from Lallana and Demichelis starts to man handle him instead. It was bordering on a bear hug for every corner afterwards and the Ref said nothing. The first pic doesn't really do it justice.

Also, the best part of the game for Morgan flicking the ball over the head of one Man City player, before immediately doing the same to Toure, who ended up falling over and landing on his a**e.
Wasn't impressed either with the Ref for Lallana not being protected at the corners. Ref sees that Toure is all over Lallana before corner is taken, so holds up play and tells Toure off. After this, Toure stays away from Lallana and Demichelis starts to man handle him instead. It was bordering on a bear hug for every corner afterwards and the Ref said nothing. The first pic doesn't really do it justice. Also, the best part of the game for Morgan flicking the ball over the head of one Man City player, before immediately doing the same to Toure, who ended up falling over and landing on his a**e. scprof
  • Score: 2

6:20pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

Hoof 1- Liverpool 2. Congratulations to Mr.Taylor the referee for managing to make himself the centre of attention in yet another incompetent performance by a premier league official. Seeing as Liverpool have yet to play ManC and Chelsk at home I think it would be appropriate for Clutterbrain to take one of those and then just pick a totally blind person off the street to take the other, and hope that the guide dog doesn't get in the way. Oh and I think our linesman from Saturday should be there as well. Wake up the FA ,our great game is being ruined.
Hoof 1- Liverpool 2. Congratulations to Mr.Taylor the referee for managing to make himself the centre of attention in yet another incompetent performance by a premier league official. Seeing as Liverpool have yet to play ManC and Chelsk at home I think it would be appropriate for Clutterbrain to take one of those and then just pick a totally blind person off the street to take the other, and hope that the guide dog doesn't get in the way. Oh and I think our linesman from Saturday should be there as well. Wake up the FA ,our great game is being ruined. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

8:31pm Sun 6 Apr 14

hedge end bob says...

Anyone know the email address of the FA were one could send a compliant about the standards off refs and linesmen ???. Every corner taken now has so much pushing and pulling done by all the players, ours included , that a penalty should be awarded. Outside the box they award a free kick but very very few award a penalty inside the box , WHY???
Anyone know the email address of the FA were one could send a compliant about the standards off refs and linesmen ???. Every corner taken now has so much pushing and pulling done by all the players, ours included , that a penalty should be awarded. Outside the box they award a free kick but very very few award a penalty inside the box , WHY??? hedge end bob
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

scprof wrote:
Wasn't impressed either with the Ref for Lallana not being protected at the corners.
Ref sees that Toure is all over Lallana before corner is taken, so holds up play and tells Toure off. After this, Toure stays away from Lallana and Demichelis starts to man handle him instead. It was bordering on a bear hug for every corner afterwards and the Ref said nothing. The first pic doesn't really do it justice.

Also, the best part of the game for Morgan flicking the ball over the head of one Man City player, before immediately doing the same to Toure, who ended up falling over and landing on his a**e.
I was screaming about that bear hug. It was utterly incredible. If Jose's shirt tug at the Emirates warrented a penalty, then that was worth two.
[quote][p][bold]scprof[/bold] wrote: Wasn't impressed either with the Ref for Lallana not being protected at the corners. Ref sees that Toure is all over Lallana before corner is taken, so holds up play and tells Toure off. After this, Toure stays away from Lallana and Demichelis starts to man handle him instead. It was bordering on a bear hug for every corner afterwards and the Ref said nothing. The first pic doesn't really do it justice. Also, the best part of the game for Morgan flicking the ball over the head of one Man City player, before immediately doing the same to Toure, who ended up falling over and landing on his a**e.[/p][/quote]I was screaming about that bear hug. It was utterly incredible. If Jose's shirt tug at the Emirates warrented a penalty, then that was worth two. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

11:05pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

North Wales Saint wrote:
Strassie, I too am in the picture above, looks like the row behind you and about five to the left with a Saints scarf on. Had I known it was you could have said hello! Is it just me, or does anyone else get fed up with having to stand all match after paying top whack Citeh prices for a SEAT. When it became a legal requirement for clubs to install seats I presumed that they were meant to be used for sitting on and not standing in front of. At one time stewards would make people sit and I recall some being ejected for not complying. Now they never seem to bother. My old legs get pretty tired after a couple of hours, there was a chap in front with crutches who would probably have preferred to sit AND several children nearby who hadn' t a hope in hell of having a decent view even standing on their seats. I suppose it's the 'I' m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you' age in which we now live. Anyway rant over. Get well soon Jrod.
You weren't with the guy in the leopard suit were you? That was pretty brave in the away end of a footy match.

Yes, pity we didn't know how close we were to each other, it would have been good to meet up.

Given the prices and the fact I'm back over at the start of May, I'll try and get Swansea tickets. Will you be going?

As for standing, when the lads were little, I hated it. They couldn't see a thing. The guy next to me (the one stood in front of you above) let his young son stand on his seat. Although that can't have been the case when that pic above was taken. It's hardly safe but he had no option.

I guess it's like many things that annoy me - refs, bad driving, French admin .... slowly, I'm getting used to it all and am putting up with it. For me, it's one of the strongest reasons for re-introducing a standing section for home and away fans. Then fans can choose whether to stand or sit. To me, standing on a controlled terrace is far safer than standing amongst seats. Get a surge with seats all around you and you've no chance of preventing a fall.

Anyway, hope to see you in Swansea or somewhere next season.
[quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: Strassie, I too am in the picture above, looks like the row behind you and about five to the left with a Saints scarf on. Had I known it was you could have said hello! Is it just me, or does anyone else get fed up with having to stand all match after paying top whack Citeh prices for a SEAT. When it became a legal requirement for clubs to install seats I presumed that they were meant to be used for sitting on and not standing in front of. At one time stewards would make people sit and I recall some being ejected for not complying. Now they never seem to bother. My old legs get pretty tired after a couple of hours, there was a chap in front with crutches who would probably have preferred to sit AND several children nearby who hadn' t a hope in hell of having a decent view even standing on their seats. I suppose it's the 'I' m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you' age in which we now live. Anyway rant over. Get well soon Jrod.[/p][/quote]You weren't with the guy in the leopard suit were you? That was pretty brave in the away end of a footy match. Yes, pity we didn't know how close we were to each other, it would have been good to meet up. Given the prices and the fact I'm back over at the start of May, I'll try and get Swansea tickets. Will you be going? As for standing, when the lads were little, I hated it. They couldn't see a thing. The guy next to me (the one stood in front of you above) let his young son stand on his seat. Although that can't have been the case when that pic above was taken. It's hardly safe but he had no option. I guess it's like many things that annoy me - refs, bad driving, French admin .... slowly, I'm getting used to it all and am putting up with it. For me, it's one of the strongest reasons for re-introducing a standing section for home and away fans. Then fans can choose whether to stand or sit. To me, standing on a controlled terrace is far safer than standing amongst seats. Get a surge with seats all around you and you've no chance of preventing a fall. Anyway, hope to see you in Swansea or somewhere next season. Strasbourg Saint
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11:37pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Anyone know the email address of the FA were one could send a compliant about the standards off refs and linesmen ???. Every corner taken now has so much pushing and pulling done by all the players, ours included , that a penalty should be awarded. Outside the box they award a free kick but very very few award a penalty inside the box , WHY???
You can mail them from their own web site. I've done it. They always reply but with the same politically correct answer which of course doesn't answer the question at all. It's pretty much a waste of time. They generally have the get out that a referee has seen an incident so there is nothing more they can do. I've even replied to their bullsh-t answers by saying that the referee clearly hasn't seen the incident properly otherwise he would have given the correct decision. That's when they don't respond any more.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Anyone know the email address of the FA were one could send a compliant about the standards off refs and linesmen ???. Every corner taken now has so much pushing and pulling done by all the players, ours included , that a penalty should be awarded. Outside the box they award a free kick but very very few award a penalty inside the box , WHY???[/p][/quote]You can mail them from their own web site. I've done it. They always reply but with the same politically correct answer which of course doesn't answer the question at all. It's pretty much a waste of time. They generally have the get out that a referee has seen an incident so there is nothing more they can do. I've even replied to their bullsh-t answers by saying that the referee clearly hasn't seen the incident properly otherwise he would have given the correct decision. That's when they don't respond any more. Clever Dick
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12:14am Mon 7 Apr 14

North Wales Saint says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
North Wales Saint wrote:
Strassie, I too am in the picture above, looks like the row behind you and about five to the left with a Saints scarf on. Had I known it was you could have said hello! Is it just me, or does anyone else get fed up with having to stand all match after paying top whack Citeh prices for a SEAT. When it became a legal requirement for clubs to install seats I presumed that they were meant to be used for sitting on and not standing in front of. At one time stewards would make people sit and I recall some being ejected for not complying. Now they never seem to bother. My old legs get pretty tired after a couple of hours, there was a chap in front with crutches who would probably have preferred to sit AND several children nearby who hadn' t a hope in hell of having a decent view even standing on their seats. I suppose it's the 'I' m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you' age in which we now live. Anyway rant over. Get well soon Jrod.
You weren't with the guy in the leopard suit were you? That was pretty brave in the away end of a footy match.

Yes, pity we didn't know how close we were to each other, it would have been good to meet up.

Given the prices and the fact I'm back over at the start of May, I'll try and get Swansea tickets. Will you be going?

As for standing, when the lads were little, I hated it. They couldn't see a thing. The guy next to me (the one stood in front of you above) let his young son stand on his seat. Although that can't have been the case when that pic above was taken. It's hardly safe but he had no option.

I guess it's like many things that annoy me - refs, bad driving, French admin .... slowly, I'm getting used to it all and am putting up with it. For me, it's one of the strongest reasons for re-introducing a standing section for home and away fans. Then fans can choose whether to stand or sit. To me, standing on a controlled terrace is far safer than standing amongst seats. Get a surge with seats all around you and you've no chance of preventing a fall.

Anyway, hope to see you in Swansea or somewhere next season.
The guy in the leopard suit was just along the row from me - he didn't get that in Burtons. Don't know if I'll make the Swansea game as I'm going down to St Mary's for the Everton match the weekend before and staying over for a few days. Looking forward to it as I'm going in hospitality - a Christmas present from my wife! (She's coming too). Hopefully our paths will cross somewhere eventually.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: Strassie, I too am in the picture above, looks like the row behind you and about five to the left with a Saints scarf on. Had I known it was you could have said hello! Is it just me, or does anyone else get fed up with having to stand all match after paying top whack Citeh prices for a SEAT. When it became a legal requirement for clubs to install seats I presumed that they were meant to be used for sitting on and not standing in front of. At one time stewards would make people sit and I recall some being ejected for not complying. Now they never seem to bother. My old legs get pretty tired after a couple of hours, there was a chap in front with crutches who would probably have preferred to sit AND several children nearby who hadn' t a hope in hell of having a decent view even standing on their seats. I suppose it's the 'I' m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you' age in which we now live. Anyway rant over. Get well soon Jrod.[/p][/quote]You weren't with the guy in the leopard suit were you? That was pretty brave in the away end of a footy match. Yes, pity we didn't know how close we were to each other, it would have been good to meet up. Given the prices and the fact I'm back over at the start of May, I'll try and get Swansea tickets. Will you be going? As for standing, when the lads were little, I hated it. They couldn't see a thing. The guy next to me (the one stood in front of you above) let his young son stand on his seat. Although that can't have been the case when that pic above was taken. It's hardly safe but he had no option. I guess it's like many things that annoy me - refs, bad driving, French admin .... slowly, I'm getting used to it all and am putting up with it. For me, it's one of the strongest reasons for re-introducing a standing section for home and away fans. Then fans can choose whether to stand or sit. To me, standing on a controlled terrace is far safer than standing amongst seats. Get a surge with seats all around you and you've no chance of preventing a fall. Anyway, hope to see you in Swansea or somewhere next season.[/p][/quote]The guy in the leopard suit was just along the row from me - he didn't get that in Burtons. Don't know if I'll make the Swansea game as I'm going down to St Mary's for the Everton match the weekend before and staying over for a few days. Looking forward to it as I'm going in hospitality - a Christmas present from my wife! (She's coming too). Hopefully our paths will cross somewhere eventually. North Wales Saint
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2:51am Mon 7 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
North Wales Saint wrote:
Strassie, I too am in the picture above, looks like the row behind you and about five to the left with a Saints scarf on. Had I known it was you could have said hello! Is it just me, or does anyone else get fed up with having to stand all match after paying top whack Citeh prices for a SEAT. When it became a legal requirement for clubs to install seats I presumed that they were meant to be used for sitting on and not standing in front of. At one time stewards would make people sit and I recall some being ejected for not complying. Now they never seem to bother. My old legs get pretty tired after a couple of hours, there was a chap in front with crutches who would probably have preferred to sit AND several children nearby who hadn' t a hope in hell of having a decent view even standing on their seats. I suppose it's the 'I' m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you' age in which we now live. Anyway rant over. Get well soon Jrod.
You weren't with the guy in the leopard suit were you? That was pretty brave in the away end of a footy match.

Yes, pity we didn't know how close we were to each other, it would have been good to meet up.

Given the prices and the fact I'm back over at the start of May, I'll try and get Swansea tickets. Will you be going?

As for standing, when the lads were little, I hated it. They couldn't see a thing. The guy next to me (the one stood in front of you above) let his young son stand on his seat. Although that can't have been the case when that pic above was taken. It's hardly safe but he had no option.

I guess it's like many things that annoy me - refs, bad driving, French admin .... slowly, I'm getting used to it all and am putting up with it. For me, it's one of the strongest reasons for re-introducing a standing section for home and away fans. Then fans can choose whether to stand or sit. To me, standing on a controlled terrace is far safer than standing amongst seats. Get a surge with seats all around you and you've no chance of preventing a fall.

Anyway, hope to see you in Swansea or somewhere next season.
Don't they have terraces on the continent, or have they all gone too?
Used to love the good old days standing at the Dell. Kids used to go down the front or have a milk crate to stand on. My dearly departed grandad made me a great fold away stool to stand on when I was a nipper.
Reintroducing terraces would be a great idea but as you say it would have to be controlled.
I always remember going to white hart lane in '86 for the cup semi and we were so tightly packed in you could almost lift your feet of the ground and not fall down. Then a copper walked down the touchline with a megaphone and asked us to move down a bit as there where another 2000+ fans still to get in. We managed to move about 1foot, no idea if they all got in but its no surprise that a tragedy like Hillsborough happened just 3 years later.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: Strassie, I too am in the picture above, looks like the row behind you and about five to the left with a Saints scarf on. Had I known it was you could have said hello! Is it just me, or does anyone else get fed up with having to stand all match after paying top whack Citeh prices for a SEAT. When it became a legal requirement for clubs to install seats I presumed that they were meant to be used for sitting on and not standing in front of. At one time stewards would make people sit and I recall some being ejected for not complying. Now they never seem to bother. My old legs get pretty tired after a couple of hours, there was a chap in front with crutches who would probably have preferred to sit AND several children nearby who hadn' t a hope in hell of having a decent view even standing on their seats. I suppose it's the 'I' m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you' age in which we now live. Anyway rant over. Get well soon Jrod.[/p][/quote]You weren't with the guy in the leopard suit were you? That was pretty brave in the away end of a footy match. Yes, pity we didn't know how close we were to each other, it would have been good to meet up. Given the prices and the fact I'm back over at the start of May, I'll try and get Swansea tickets. Will you be going? As for standing, when the lads were little, I hated it. They couldn't see a thing. The guy next to me (the one stood in front of you above) let his young son stand on his seat. Although that can't have been the case when that pic above was taken. It's hardly safe but he had no option. I guess it's like many things that annoy me - refs, bad driving, French admin .... slowly, I'm getting used to it all and am putting up with it. For me, it's one of the strongest reasons for re-introducing a standing section for home and away fans. Then fans can choose whether to stand or sit. To me, standing on a controlled terrace is far safer than standing amongst seats. Get a surge with seats all around you and you've no chance of preventing a fall. Anyway, hope to see you in Swansea or somewhere next season.[/p][/quote]Don't they have terraces on the continent, or have they all gone too? Used to love the good old days standing at the Dell. Kids used to go down the front or have a milk crate to stand on. My dearly departed grandad made me a great fold away stool to stand on when I was a nipper. Reintroducing terraces would be a great idea but as you say it would have to be controlled. I always remember going to white hart lane in '86 for the cup semi and we were so tightly packed in you could almost lift your feet of the ground and not fall down. Then a copper walked down the touchline with a megaphone and asked us to move down a bit as there where another 2000+ fans still to get in. We managed to move about 1foot, no idea if they all got in but its no surprise that a tragedy like Hillsborough happened just 3 years later. el caballo santos101
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12:16pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

101, My first Dell match (Manure circa 1970, my sister and I took little foldaway stools to stand on and we were moved down to the front. Can't do that now with tickets and seat numbers. Also remember WHL '86. AND The Bridge in '76. Really hard to breathe but what an atmosphere.

In Strasbourg, there are still some terraces but it's quite unpleasant. I was at a match a few years ago - Racing vs Lyon - it was when Lyon were on a run of about 10 successive titles. It was like being on the barracades in Les Mis. It's easier these days with Racing struggling having 'done a Pompey'. We get about 5-10,000, which is less than half full. Big match on Friday, though; a local derby against Colmar (a bit like when we played Bournemouth) Racing have to win or could go back down into the local leagues (something like the Conference South). I'll be there.

North Wales - yes, we'll meet sometime.
101, My first Dell match (Manure circa 1970, my sister and I took little foldaway stools to stand on and we were moved down to the front. Can't do that now with tickets and seat numbers. Also remember WHL '86. AND The Bridge in '76. Really hard to breathe but what an atmosphere. In Strasbourg, there are still some terraces but it's quite unpleasant. I was at a match a few years ago - Racing vs Lyon - it was when Lyon were on a run of about 10 successive titles. It was like being on the barracades in Les Mis. It's easier these days with Racing struggling having 'done a Pompey'. We get about 5-10,000, which is less than half full. Big match on Friday, though; a local derby against Colmar (a bit like when we played Bournemouth) Racing have to win or could go back down into the local leagues (something like the Conference South). I'll be there. North Wales - yes, we'll meet sometime. Strasbourg Saint
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