Poch downbeat over crushing J-Rod injury blow

Poch downbeat over crushing J-Rod injury blow

Poch downbeat over crushing J-Rod injury blow

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Jay Rodriguez’s World Cup dreams could be over after he suffered a serious looking knee injury in the 4-1 defeat at Manchester City.

The Saints top scorer landed heavily on his right knee midway through the first half at the Etihad Stadium and had to be stretchered from the pitch in agony while his teammates looked on in horror.

Though the swelling is so bad that no instant diagnosis can take place, the talk behind the scenes was of ligament damage that will end Rodriguez’s season and his chances of going to Brazil with England.

Manager Mauricio Pochettino refused to speculate on the extent of the injury but his tone clearly suggested it was likely to be very serious.

“To be completely honest it’s not looking good,” said the rueful Saints boss.

“We need to assess him today and tomorrow but it’s not looking good.

Basingstoke Gazette:

“It’s not going to be good for him, it’s not good for the team.”

He added: “I can’t really know exactly what’s wrong with him or when I’m going to see him again in a Southampton shirt.

“We need to analyse him today and tomorrow and know the exact reality of his injury.

“All the players are really affected, not just about the result, not just about the refereeing decisions, but more than anything about the doubt of how severe his injury is.”

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3:57pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

Hope it turns out to be less severe than thought, but the way our luck went today, I won't hold my breath.
It also indicated, again, how lacking in depth our squad is, that we had to send on a midfield player, for him.
Hope it turns out to be less severe than thought, but the way our luck went today, I won't hold my breath. It also indicated, again, how lacking in depth our squad is, that we had to send on a midfield player, for him. Costa Baz
  • Score: 34

4:36pm Sat 5 Apr 14

DisplacedFan says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Hope it turns out to be less severe than thought, but the way our luck went today, I won't hold my breath.
It also indicated, again, how lacking in depth our squad is, that we had to send on a midfield player, for him.
Good point. We will see how serious we are about moving into the top six by how much we spend this summer. Not so much how much we spend on one person but how big our squad is with quality players. Being pessimistic, I can see us doing a little business and maintaining our position, but not being able to seriously challenge the top. There is only so much mileage we can get from our current squad.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Hope it turns out to be less severe than thought, but the way our luck went today, I won't hold my breath. It also indicated, again, how lacking in depth our squad is, that we had to send on a midfield player, for him.[/p][/quote]Good point. We will see how serious we are about moving into the top six by how much we spend this summer. Not so much how much we spend on one person but how big our squad is with quality players. Being pessimistic, I can see us doing a little business and maintaining our position, but not being able to seriously challenge the top. There is only so much mileage we can get from our current squad. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 20

4:45pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Cincinnati says...

It certainly didn't look good on TV. I feel real bad for him. He has made such good progress this season.
It certainly didn't look good on TV. I feel real bad for him. He has made such good progress this season. Cincinnati
  • Score: 37

6:52pm Sat 5 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 36

7:44pm Sat 5 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
Can you keep everyone updated on the latest ?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.[/p][/quote]Can you keep everyone updated on the latest ? jrod11
  • Score: 0

7:48pm Sat 5 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

I was just wondering why so many threads are on the Sports site and not the dedicated Saints site?
I was just wondering why so many threads are on the Sports site and not the dedicated Saints site? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

8:11pm Sat 5 Apr 14

AdamG10 says...

I thought we did really well today despite the scoreline. city's second goal was a poor, poor decision and completely changed the game. Up until that point we bossed the midfield and were looking great. How many teams have been to the Etihad and had as much possession as we did today? Not many. Still, possession doesn't win games and like most on here I feel we need a few quality additions in the Summer to push on again. Let's remain positive about Jay. I remember Gastons injury at Sunderland not so long ago and that looked awful on TV. I think he was only out for 5-6 weeks in the end. Fingers crossed it will be the same for Jay. His season might be over in a saints shirt but, let's hope he'll be ok to make the WOrld Cup. He so deserves to be on that plane! Come on Jay!!!!
I thought we did really well today despite the scoreline. city's second goal was a poor, poor decision and completely changed the game. Up until that point we bossed the midfield and were looking great. How many teams have been to the Etihad and had as much possession as we did today? Not many. Still, possession doesn't win games and like most on here I feel we need a few quality additions in the Summer to push on again. Let's remain positive about Jay. I remember Gastons injury at Sunderland not so long ago and that looked awful on TV. I think he was only out for 5-6 weeks in the end. Fingers crossed it will be the same for Jay. His season might be over in a saints shirt but, let's hope he'll be ok to make the WOrld Cup. He so deserves to be on that plane! Come on Jay!!!! AdamG10
  • Score: 30

8:53pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Puddletown Saint says...

Totally gutted today
1st for JayRod - all our thoughts are hoping it is not so bad.
2nd for the rest of the players. How can we be robbed again by useless officials. That offside literally changed the game.
3rd for Gazza - Let down by many around him and yes himself to.

Now - If I was MoPo this is the sign. We have a couple of kids who need game time - some to see if they can cut it and others for experience. Blood them until the Manure game. You know it makes sense.

v Cardiff

Gazza Chambers Shaw Lovern TURNBULL REED JWP Spider Adam Gaston Sam

Cropper Clyne Targett Cork Rowe Hesketh SRL
Totally gutted today 1st for JayRod - all our thoughts are hoping it is not so bad. 2nd for the rest of the players. How can we be robbed again by useless officials. That offside literally changed the game. 3rd for Gazza - Let down by many around him and yes himself to. Now - If I was MoPo this is the sign. We have a couple of kids who need game time - some to see if they can cut it and others for experience. Blood them until the Manure game. You know it makes sense. v Cardiff Gazza Chambers Shaw Lovern TURNBULL REED JWP Spider Adam Gaston Sam Cropper Clyne Targett Cork Rowe Hesketh SRL Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 7

9:48pm Sat 5 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
I was just wondering why so many threads are on the Sports site and not the dedicated Saints site?
Lo and behold they appear, like magic, I have been having problems all day with a server error messages, is it just me?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: I was just wondering why so many threads are on the Sports site and not the dedicated Saints site?[/p][/quote]Lo and behold they appear, like magic, I have been having problems all day with a server error messages, is it just me? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

10:43pm Sat 5 Apr 14

BowesSaint says...

jrod11 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
Cretin
Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.[/p][/quote]Cretin[/p][/quote]Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ??? BowesSaint
  • Score: 41

11:04pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Crispinmumbles says...

Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok.

Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc.

Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.
Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok. Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc. Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then. Crispinmumbles
  • Score: 8

12:12am Sun 6 Apr 14

SnapperSaint says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Totally gutted today
1st for JayRod - all our thoughts are hoping it is not so bad.
2nd for the rest of the players. How can we be robbed again by useless officials. That offside literally changed the game.
3rd for Gazza - Let down by many around him and yes himself to.

Now - If I was MoPo this is the sign. We have a couple of kids who need game time - some to see if they can cut it and others for experience. Blood them until the Manure game. You know it makes sense.

v Cardiff

Gazza Chambers Shaw Lovern TURNBULL REED JWP Spider Adam Gaston Sam

Cropper Clyne Targett Cork Rowe Hesketh SRL
I agree to some extent, and it doesn't matter too much to me whether we are 8th or 9th quite honestly, but the other teams around Cardiff in the bottom three may not want us to be too experimental.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Totally gutted today 1st for JayRod - all our thoughts are hoping it is not so bad. 2nd for the rest of the players. How can we be robbed again by useless officials. That offside literally changed the game. 3rd for Gazza - Let down by many around him and yes himself to. Now - If I was MoPo this is the sign. We have a couple of kids who need game time - some to see if they can cut it and others for experience. Blood them until the Manure game. You know it makes sense. v Cardiff Gazza Chambers Shaw Lovern TURNBULL REED JWP Spider Adam Gaston Sam Cropper Clyne Targett Cork Rowe Hesketh SRL[/p][/quote]I agree to some extent, and it doesn't matter too much to me whether we are 8th or 9th quite honestly, but the other teams around Cardiff in the bottom three may not want us to be too experimental. SnapperSaint
  • Score: 6

1:11am Sun 6 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok.

Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc.

Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.
so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence?
Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads.
Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad.
the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup!
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok. Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc. Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.[/p][/quote]so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence? Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads. Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad. the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 8

4:19am Sun 6 Apr 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

GOOG LUCK JROD -NEED YOU BACK ASAP !!

GAZZA should go out on Loan - it will help him. Kelvin should stop chasing personal milestones/records and hang up his gloves as he is getting too slow. RESPECT TO THEM BOTH !!

INVEST IN A NEW KEEPER to challenge Boruc. Strengthen at CB. Sort the Dani situation who will probably win silverware with Juve ...... and move on rhe Championship type Players.

We may have been unlucky with decisions - but having a third choice keeper gifted Citeh 3 points yesterday and the SCORELINE FLATTERED THEM.

TO HAVE MORE POSSSESSION WAS A CREDIT TO THE LADS.

COYR


COYR
GOOG LUCK JROD -NEED YOU BACK ASAP !! GAZZA should go out on Loan - it will help him. Kelvin should stop chasing personal milestones/records and hang up his gloves as he is getting too slow. RESPECT TO THEM BOTH !! INVEST IN A NEW KEEPER to challenge Boruc. Strengthen at CB. Sort the Dani situation who will probably win silverware with Juve ...... and move on rhe Championship type Players. We may have been unlucky with decisions - but having a third choice keeper gifted Citeh 3 points yesterday and the SCORELINE FLATTERED THEM. TO HAVE MORE POSSSESSION WAS A CREDIT TO THE LADS. COYR COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 16

5:58am Sun 6 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok.

Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc.

Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.
so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence?
Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads.
Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad.
the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup!
Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok. Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc. Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.[/p][/quote]so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence? Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads. Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad. the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup![/p][/quote]Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!! redandy10
  • Score: 15

6:15am Sun 6 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
GOOG LUCK JROD -NEED YOU BACK ASAP !!

GAZZA should go out on Loan - it will help him. Kelvin should stop chasing personal milestones/records and hang up his gloves as he is getting too slow. RESPECT TO THEM BOTH !!

INVEST IN A NEW KEEPER to challenge Boruc. Strengthen at CB. Sort the Dani situation who will probably win silverware with Juve ...... and move on rhe Championship type Players.

We may have been unlucky with decisions - but having a third choice keeper gifted Citeh 3 points yesterday and the SCORELINE FLATTERED THEM.

TO HAVE MORE POSSSESSION WAS A CREDIT TO THE LADS.

COYR


COYR
Yes Yes Yes. He should be loaned out, it would help his development a lot and would help build up his confidence. Nigel Adkins was a goalkeeper and obviously saw something in the lad, he just needs first team experience at a lover level. You are spot on that we need a CB, and if he's at Lovren's standard we'd be well in the mix for a European place next season.
[quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: GOOG LUCK JROD -NEED YOU BACK ASAP !! GAZZA should go out on Loan - it will help him. Kelvin should stop chasing personal milestones/records and hang up his gloves as he is getting too slow. RESPECT TO THEM BOTH !! INVEST IN A NEW KEEPER to challenge Boruc. Strengthen at CB. Sort the Dani situation who will probably win silverware with Juve ...... and move on rhe Championship type Players. We may have been unlucky with decisions - but having a third choice keeper gifted Citeh 3 points yesterday and the SCORELINE FLATTERED THEM. TO HAVE MORE POSSSESSION WAS A CREDIT TO THE LADS. COYR COYR[/p][/quote]Yes Yes Yes. He should be loaned out, it would help his development a lot and would help build up his confidence. Nigel Adkins was a goalkeeper and obviously saw something in the lad, he just needs first team experience at a lover level. You are spot on that we need a CB, and if he's at Lovren's standard we'd be well in the mix for a European place next season. redandy10
  • Score: 9

7:30am Sun 6 Apr 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

FROM REDARMY1

NEED MORE OPTIONS FOR STRIKE IF WE ARE TO PROGRESS.

STRIKE-FIGHT-WIN. COYR
FROM REDARMY1 NEED MORE OPTIONS FOR STRIKE IF WE ARE TO PROGRESS. STRIKE-FIGHT-WIN. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 9

8:48am Sun 6 Apr 14

J7junctionseven says...

BowesSaint wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
Cretin
Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???
I think he's lonely and was probably abused as a young child. Plus he also lives in that sh!thole to the east.
Probably best to ignore the gutless tw@t
[quote][p][bold]BowesSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.[/p][/quote]Cretin[/p][/quote]Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???[/p][/quote]I think he's lonely and was probably abused as a young child. Plus he also lives in that sh!thole to the east. Probably best to ignore the gutless tw@t J7junctionseven
  • Score: 16

9:09am Sun 6 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

At least Flapper only let in 4 goals which was pretty decent.
At least Flapper only let in 4 goals which was pretty decent. jrod11
  • Score: 0

9:48am Sun 6 Apr 14

Saint Jinx says...

AdamG10 wrote:
I thought we did really well today despite the scoreline. city's second goal was a poor, poor decision and completely changed the game. Up until that point we bossed the midfield and were looking great. How many teams have been to the Etihad and had as much possession as we did today? Not many. Still, possession doesn't win games and like most on here I feel we need a few quality additions in the Summer to push on again. Let's remain positive about Jay. I remember Gastons injury at Sunderland not so long ago and that looked awful on TV. I think he was only out for 5-6 weeks in the end. Fingers crossed it will be the same for Jay. His season might be over in a saints shirt but, let's hope he'll be ok to make the WOrld Cup. He so deserves to be on that plane! Come on Jay!!!!
I watched the match in a pub in Kent and after about 25 minutes everyone in the pub was on our side and just so impressed by the quality of our play.
Regarding the offside decision, perhaps the "linesman" thought that a Saints player touched the ball, not Dzeko, thus putting Silva onside.
Anyway, we wus robbed.
[quote][p][bold]AdamG10[/bold] wrote: I thought we did really well today despite the scoreline. city's second goal was a poor, poor decision and completely changed the game. Up until that point we bossed the midfield and were looking great. How many teams have been to the Etihad and had as much possession as we did today? Not many. Still, possession doesn't win games and like most on here I feel we need a few quality additions in the Summer to push on again. Let's remain positive about Jay. I remember Gastons injury at Sunderland not so long ago and that looked awful on TV. I think he was only out for 5-6 weeks in the end. Fingers crossed it will be the same for Jay. His season might be over in a saints shirt but, let's hope he'll be ok to make the WOrld Cup. He so deserves to be on that plane! Come on Jay!!!![/p][/quote]I watched the match in a pub in Kent and after about 25 minutes everyone in the pub was on our side and just so impressed by the quality of our play. Regarding the offside decision, perhaps the "linesman" thought that a Saints player touched the ball, not Dzeko, thus putting Silva onside. Anyway, we wus robbed. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 5

9:53am Sun 6 Apr 14

SouthamptonBoy65 says...

Absolutely gutted for Jayrod yesterday. Will remember though how the whole of the Etihad rose to their feet and applauded him off. Real respect.
Absolutely gutted for Jayrod yesterday. Will remember though how the whole of the Etihad rose to their feet and applauded him off. Real respect. SouthamptonBoy65
  • Score: 22

10:04am Sun 6 Apr 14

circa 66 saint says...

Saint Jinx wrote:
AdamG10 wrote:
I thought we did really well today despite the scoreline. city's second goal was a poor, poor decision and completely changed the game. Up until that point we bossed the midfield and were looking great. How many teams have been to the Etihad and had as much possession as we did today? Not many. Still, possession doesn't win games and like most on here I feel we need a few quality additions in the Summer to push on again. Let's remain positive about Jay. I remember Gastons injury at Sunderland not so long ago and that looked awful on TV. I think he was only out for 5-6 weeks in the end. Fingers crossed it will be the same for Jay. His season might be over in a saints shirt but, let's hope he'll be ok to make the WOrld Cup. He so deserves to be on that plane! Come on Jay!!!!
I watched the match in a pub in Kent and after about 25 minutes everyone in the pub was on our side and just so impressed by the quality of our play.
Regarding the offside decision, perhaps the "linesman" thought that a Saints player touched the ball, not Dzeko, thus putting Silva onside.
Anyway, we wus robbed.
Doesn't matter if a saints player touched the ball on its way, the offside is when the ball is kicked. So he was offside at the original pass and also at the final flick so two chances to raise the flag.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AdamG10[/bold] wrote: I thought we did really well today despite the scoreline. city's second goal was a poor, poor decision and completely changed the game. Up until that point we bossed the midfield and were looking great. How many teams have been to the Etihad and had as much possession as we did today? Not many. Still, possession doesn't win games and like most on here I feel we need a few quality additions in the Summer to push on again. Let's remain positive about Jay. I remember Gastons injury at Sunderland not so long ago and that looked awful on TV. I think he was only out for 5-6 weeks in the end. Fingers crossed it will be the same for Jay. His season might be over in a saints shirt but, let's hope he'll be ok to make the WOrld Cup. He so deserves to be on that plane! Come on Jay!!!![/p][/quote]I watched the match in a pub in Kent and after about 25 minutes everyone in the pub was on our side and just so impressed by the quality of our play. Regarding the offside decision, perhaps the "linesman" thought that a Saints player touched the ball, not Dzeko, thus putting Silva onside. Anyway, we wus robbed.[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter if a saints player touched the ball on its way, the offside is when the ball is kicked. So he was offside at the original pass and also at the final flick so two chances to raise the flag. circa 66 saint
  • Score: 8

10:49am Sun 6 Apr 14

miltonnroad76 says...

Lets hope jay can get back soon and now is young Sams chance to see what he can do....who knows he may turn out to be another gem and with nothing to lose saints can blood him in..might be the new striker we need!
Lets hope jay can get back soon and now is young Sams chance to see what he can do....who knows he may turn out to be another gem and with nothing to lose saints can blood him in..might be the new striker we need! miltonnroad76
  • Score: 10

10:54am Sun 6 Apr 14

F Fan says...

MOTD was no representation of the match at all – perhaps inevitable given they had to squeeze in 5 goals. You had to be at the game to appreciate how good Saints were in the first half. Probably the best box to box played all season IMO. We passed them to death, although there was a lack of an adequate goal threat after Rodriguez went off. Obviously, the two goals in injury time killed it and City were comfortable in the second half.

While I agree we need a second quality keeper and a striker, (no idea yet if Gallagher is going to be good enough) remember that the most important way to strengthen next season is to keep our existing players. With two or three exceptions, all of our first team squad will improve naturally with age next year. We finished with 6 academy players on the field yesterday – must be some kind of PL record (except for us – it has happened before this season). Recent Board statements about not having to sell is by far the most important factor in having an improving team next season, not spending a fortune on new signings.

While Gaza does not look ready for first team football, Chambers was more at fault than him yesterday. Ball watching for one of the goals and didn’t fully track his man back for the fourth. It’s a strange mentality that will always blame a certain player for everything – Guly, Fox, Gaza, whoever – while others are beyond criticism.
MOTD was no representation of the match at all – perhaps inevitable given they had to squeeze in 5 goals. You had to be at the game to appreciate how good Saints were in the first half. Probably the best box to box played all season IMO. We passed them to death, although there was a lack of an adequate goal threat after Rodriguez went off. Obviously, the two goals in injury time killed it and City were comfortable in the second half. While I agree we need a second quality keeper and a striker, (no idea yet if Gallagher is going to be good enough) remember that the most important way to strengthen next season is to keep our existing players. With two or three exceptions, all of our first team squad will improve naturally with age next year. We finished with 6 academy players on the field yesterday – must be some kind of PL record (except for us – it has happened before this season). Recent Board statements about not having to sell is by far the most important factor in having an improving team next season, not spending a fortune on new signings. While Gaza does not look ready for first team football, Chambers was more at fault than him yesterday. Ball watching for one of the goals and didn’t fully track his man back for the fourth. It’s a strange mentality that will always blame a certain player for everything – Guly, Fox, Gaza, whoever – while others are beyond criticism. F Fan
  • Score: 7

11:02am Sun 6 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
BowesSaint wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
Cretin
Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???
I think he's lonely and was probably abused as a young child. Plus he also lives in that sh!thole to the east.
Probably best to ignore the gutless tw@t
I think you will find it comes naturally to him. Added to that there is the huge jealousy factor that we are so superior in every way. Do we have any psychiatrists who could analyse his pathetic comments as we may need to get get the lunatic asylum involved to get him some treatment.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BowesSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.[/p][/quote]Cretin[/p][/quote]Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???[/p][/quote]I think he's lonely and was probably abused as a young child. Plus he also lives in that sh!thole to the east. Probably best to ignore the gutless tw@t[/p][/quote]I think you will find it comes naturally to him. Added to that there is the huge jealousy factor that we are so superior in every way. Do we have any psychiatrists who could analyse his pathetic comments as we may need to get get the lunatic asylum involved to get him some treatment. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

11:05am Sun 6 Apr 14

Folkestone Saint says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote:
Totally gutted today
1st for JayRod - all our thoughts are hoping it is not so bad.
2nd for the rest of the players. How can we be robbed again by useless officials. That offside literally changed the game.
3rd for Gazza - Let down by many around him and yes himself to.

Now - If I was MoPo this is the sign. We have a couple of kids who need game time - some to see if they can cut it and others for experience. Blood them until the Manure game. You know it makes sense.

v Cardiff

Gazza Chambers Shaw Lovern TURNBULL REED JWP Spider Adam Gaston Sam

Cropper Clyne Targett Cork Rowe Hesketh SRL
I agree to some extent, and it doesn't matter too much to me whether we are 8th or 9th quite honestly, but the other teams around Cardiff in the bottom three may not want us to be too experimental.
It matters to me who we play, when I bought the tickets for the Cardiff game it was to see the best team available to Saints, with the cost of tickets, travel, food etc plus a whole day commited to this game I want to see us win, otherwise I may as well go to a Greek island with my wife for a week for the same outlay.
p.s. if I were religious I would be praying for J Rod, best of luck to you
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Totally gutted today 1st for JayRod - all our thoughts are hoping it is not so bad. 2nd for the rest of the players. How can we be robbed again by useless officials. That offside literally changed the game. 3rd for Gazza - Let down by many around him and yes himself to. Now - If I was MoPo this is the sign. We have a couple of kids who need game time - some to see if they can cut it and others for experience. Blood them until the Manure game. You know it makes sense. v Cardiff Gazza Chambers Shaw Lovern TURNBULL REED JWP Spider Adam Gaston Sam Cropper Clyne Targett Cork Rowe Hesketh SRL[/p][/quote]I agree to some extent, and it doesn't matter too much to me whether we are 8th or 9th quite honestly, but the other teams around Cardiff in the bottom three may not want us to be too experimental.[/p][/quote]It matters to me who we play, when I bought the tickets for the Cardiff game it was to see the best team available to Saints, with the cost of tickets, travel, food etc plus a whole day commited to this game I want to see us win, otherwise I may as well go to a Greek island with my wife for a week for the same outlay. p.s. if I were religious I would be praying for J Rod, best of luck to you Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 5

11:10am Sun 6 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
BowesSaint wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
Cretin
Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???
I think he's lonely and was probably abused as a young child. Plus he also lives in that sh!thole to the east.
Probably best to ignore the gutless tw@t
Most of us have been ignorring his rubbish for quite a while now, best not to respond with abuse as that is what he loves, it could get you barred and that would please him even more, if the post breaks the rules, just report it, if he does it often enough he will be barred. Of course he will sign on again with a new identity and start the cycle all over again, it's the nature of the beast. Don't feed the Troll.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BowesSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.[/p][/quote]Cretin[/p][/quote]Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???[/p][/quote]I think he's lonely and was probably abused as a young child. Plus he also lives in that sh!thole to the east. Probably best to ignore the gutless tw@t[/p][/quote]Most of us have been ignorring his rubbish for quite a while now, best not to respond with abuse as that is what he loves, it could get you barred and that would please him even more, if the post breaks the rules, just report it, if he does it often enough he will be barred. Of course he will sign on again with a new identity and start the cycle all over again, it's the nature of the beast. Don't feed the Troll. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 7

11:26am Sun 6 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
BowesSaint wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
Cretin
Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???
I think he's lonely and was probably abused as a young child. Plus he also lives in that sh!thole to the east.
Probably best to ignore the gutless tw@t
Most of us have been ignorring his rubbish for quite a while now, best not to respond with abuse as that is what he loves, it could get you barred and that would please him even more, if the post breaks the rules, just report it, if he does it often enough he will be barred. Of course he will sign on again with a new identity and start the cycle all over again, it's the nature of the beast. Don't feed the Troll.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz FOP
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BowesSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.[/p][/quote]Cretin[/p][/quote]Why are you always such a venomous, disagreeable little c@nt ???[/p][/quote]I think he's lonely and was probably abused as a young child. Plus he also lives in that sh!thole to the east. Probably best to ignore the gutless tw@t[/p][/quote]Most of us have been ignorring his rubbish for quite a while now, best not to respond with abuse as that is what he loves, it could get you barred and that would please him even more, if the post breaks the rules, just report it, if he does it often enough he will be barred. Of course he will sign on again with a new identity and start the cycle all over again, it's the nature of the beast. Don't feed the Troll.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzz FOP jrod11
  • Score: 0

12:26pm Sun 6 Apr 14

ghk230473 says...

Absolutely gutted for j-rod who had the look of a player who knew his World Cup dream was over. We will miss his pace and work rate, I don't think we have others in squad like him. I hope he does make a speedy recovery in time but have doubts.
Slightly negative note, I really hope poch will take cup games more seriously next season, the further we go the more chances our younger players get and extra revenue for club. I think we have a greater chance winning fa or league cup than Europe.
Absolutely gutted for j-rod who had the look of a player who knew his World Cup dream was over. We will miss his pace and work rate, I don't think we have others in squad like him. I hope he does make a speedy recovery in time but have doubts. Slightly negative note, I really hope poch will take cup games more seriously next season, the further we go the more chances our younger players get and extra revenue for club. I think we have a greater chance winning fa or league cup than Europe. ghk230473
  • Score: 9

1:31pm Sun 6 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok.

Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc.

Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.
so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence?
Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads.
Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad.
the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup!
Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!!
where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead.
I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view!
`when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world.
do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again?
as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club.
we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked.

your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!"
ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!"
I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were.
in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room?
I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again.
oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired.
I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead!
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok. Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc. Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.[/p][/quote]so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence? Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads. Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad. the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup![/p][/quote]Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!![/p][/quote]where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead. I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view! `when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world. do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again? as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club. we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked. your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!" ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!" I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were. in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room? I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again. oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired. I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

1:45pm Sun 6 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok.

Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc.

Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.
so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence?
Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads.
Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad.
the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup!
Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!!
where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead.
I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view!
`when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world.
do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again?
as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club.
we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked.

your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!"
ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!"
I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were.
in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room?
I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again.
oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired.
I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead!
Gazaa the comedy juggling clown is good for a laugh though
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok. Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc. Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.[/p][/quote]so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence? Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads. Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad. the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup![/p][/quote]Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!![/p][/quote]where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead. I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view! `when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world. do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again? as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club. we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked. your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!" ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!" I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were. in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room? I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again. oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired. I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead![/p][/quote]Gazaa the comedy juggling clown is good for a laugh though jrod11
  • Score: -3

1:47pm Sun 6 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jrod11 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok.

Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc.

Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.
so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence?
Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads.
Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad.
the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup!
Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!!
where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead.
I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view!
`when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world.
do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again?
as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club.
we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked.

your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!"
ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!"
I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were.
in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room?
I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again.
oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired.
I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead!
Gazaa the comedy juggling clown is good for a laugh though
Turdus Turdus comes to mind.
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok. Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc. Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.[/p][/quote]so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence? Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads. Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad. the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup![/p][/quote]Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!![/p][/quote]where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead. I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view! `when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world. do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again? as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club. we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked. your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!" ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!" I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were. in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room? I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again. oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired. I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead![/p][/quote]Gazaa the comedy juggling clown is good for a laugh though[/p][/quote]Turdus Turdus comes to mind. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:07pm Sun 6 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

you have to question a persons mentality when they pretend to be a saints fan, but abuses the fans and players of the club. and then the morning after J-rods injury, which every saints fan is concerned about and is wishing him well and hoping its not as serious as it looks, he comes on here and asks "Any news on Hopalong . FOP". until we know the extent of J-rods injury I think we are all fearing the worst and none of us would ever dream of making fun of him.
daily echo, we know you keep an eye on these threads so I implore you to ban `jrod11` he continually breaks the site rules and is very abusive to other members. you will also find that he has been banned before, on more than one occasion, but comes back with a different login name. could you please ban his/her email address and IP number. trolls like this ruin the threads for the vast majority who want to have a laugh, a joke and talk and debate about Southampton.
I know that by talking about him I am giving fuel to its fire but it needs to be put to an end.
awaiting a comprehensive and witty response from jrod11.
you have to question a persons mentality when they pretend to be a saints fan, but abuses the fans and players of the club. and then the morning after J-rods injury, which every saints fan is concerned about and is wishing him well and hoping its not as serious as it looks, he comes on here and asks "Any news on Hopalong . FOP". until we know the extent of J-rods injury I think we are all fearing the worst and none of us would ever dream of making fun of him. daily echo, we know you keep an eye on these threads so I implore you to ban `jrod11` he continually breaks the site rules and is very abusive to other members. you will also find that he has been banned before, on more than one occasion, but comes back with a different login name. could you please ban his/her email address and IP number. trolls like this ruin the threads for the vast majority who want to have a laugh, a joke and talk and debate about Southampton. I know that by talking about him I am giving fuel to its fire but it needs to be put to an end. awaiting a comprehensive and witty response from jrod11. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

2:23pm Sun 6 Apr 14

marz194 says...

REALLY RANDOM BUT WOULDN'T YOU, THE FANS LOVE FOR THE CLUB TO LET US HAVE A SAY IN NEXT SEASONS KIT? WE COULD DO A VOTE ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING OUT OF 3 OPTIONS WE ARE GIVEN. COYR!!! that would be gr8!
REALLY RANDOM BUT WOULDN'T YOU, THE FANS LOVE FOR THE CLUB TO LET US HAVE A SAY IN NEXT SEASONS KIT? WE COULD DO A VOTE ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING OUT OF 3 OPTIONS WE ARE GIVEN. COYR!!! that would be gr8! marz194
  • Score: 7

2:42pm Sun 6 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

marz194 wrote:
REALLY RANDOM BUT WOULDN'T YOU, THE FANS LOVE FOR THE CLUB TO LET US HAVE A SAY IN NEXT SEASONS KIT? WE COULD DO A VOTE ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING OUT OF 3 OPTIONS WE ARE GIVEN. COYR!!! that would be gr8!
Bring back the stripes.
[quote][p][bold]marz194[/bold] wrote: REALLY RANDOM BUT WOULDN'T YOU, THE FANS LOVE FOR THE CLUB TO LET US HAVE A SAY IN NEXT SEASONS KIT? WE COULD DO A VOTE ON THE WEBSITE OR SOMETHING OUT OF 3 OPTIONS WE ARE GIVEN. COYR!!! that would be gr8![/p][/quote]Bring back the stripes. jrod11
  • Score: 0

3:11pm Sun 6 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok.

Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc.

Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.
so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence?
Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads.
Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad.
the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup!
Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!!
where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead.
I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view!
`when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world.
do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again?
as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club.
we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked.

your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!"
ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!"
I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were.
in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room?
I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again.
oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired.
I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead!
What are you on about? I said we couldn't win with Gazza in goal and I was proved correct. And after I advise you to lay off Crispin, you launch into a diatribe which as far as length goes makes War and Peace look like a penguin book. Saying that, I gave you a thumbs up for sheer effort. Tell me, how many times did you have to ice down your throbbing typing hand? I'm sorry but I zoned out near the end of the 19th paragraph, which I think would be classed as a technical knock out. Is there an abridged version knocking about? Now, why don't you prove wrong all of those people who gave you a thumbs down, by cutting out a little bit of the nastiness from your posts. Now, I'll hear no more on the subject.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok. Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc. Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.[/p][/quote]so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence? Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads. Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad. the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup![/p][/quote]Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!![/p][/quote]where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead. I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view! `when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world. do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again? as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club. we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked. your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!" ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!" I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were. in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room? I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again. oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired. I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead![/p][/quote]What are you on about? I said we couldn't win with Gazza in goal and I was proved correct. And after I advise you to lay off Crispin, you launch into a diatribe which as far as length goes makes War and Peace look like a penguin book. Saying that, I gave you a thumbs up for sheer effort. Tell me, how many times did you have to ice down your throbbing typing hand? I'm sorry but I zoned out near the end of the 19th paragraph, which I think would be classed as a technical knock out. Is there an abridged version knocking about? Now, why don't you prove wrong all of those people who gave you a thumbs down, by cutting out a little bit of the nastiness from your posts. Now, I'll hear no more on the subject. redandy10
  • Score: 1

3:28pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Just back. Lads played really well and totally dominated the first half. Tbf to the city fans they all said we battered them and respect to them for their ovation for Jay Rod, class act unlike their near neighbours.

Fonte was a penalty, you just do not do that in modern football. Offside was blatantly offside even from behind the goal, appalling decision from linesman and the ref who should have overruled the Lino it was that far off.

Gazza is crap. No more excuses no more for the future nonsense. He cost £2m and no doubt has skill but like Bart freezes on the big stage. We need someone to push Boruc with Kelvin as coach.

Hope Jay isn't as bad as it looked but he's bound to be out for the rest of the season. Play Rickie up top with Gaston playing off him for the whole 90 minutes of each and every match. It will then be obvious whether we stick or twist with him in the summer. Big Sam can give Rickie a rest from time to time.
Just back. Lads played really well and totally dominated the first half. Tbf to the city fans they all said we battered them and respect to them for their ovation for Jay Rod, class act unlike their near neighbours. Fonte was a penalty, you just do not do that in modern football. Offside was blatantly offside even from behind the goal, appalling decision from linesman and the ref who should have overruled the Lino it was that far off. Gazza is crap. No more excuses no more for the future nonsense. He cost £2m and no doubt has skill but like Bart freezes on the big stage. We need someone to push Boruc with Kelvin as coach. Hope Jay isn't as bad as it looked but he's bound to be out for the rest of the season. Play Rickie up top with Gaston playing off him for the whole 90 minutes of each and every match. It will then be obvious whether we stick or twist with him in the summer. Big Sam can give Rickie a rest from time to time. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 11

3:31pm Sun 6 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

We might have lost but we dictated the first half, even after going behind to the early penalty we looked in control for a big portion of that half. It was always going to be a big ask, but we'll bounce back.
We might have lost but we dictated the first half, even after going behind to the early penalty we looked in control for a big portion of that half. It was always going to be a big ask, but we'll bounce back. redandy10
  • Score: 6

4:43pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Little Hitler says...

Happy with what I saw of us yesterday, shame we yet again conceded soon after scoring though (even if it was offside).

MP seems to be getting more open in his interviews, it might be me but he seems to have a stronger opinion now Cortese has gone.
Happy with what I saw of us yesterday, shame we yet again conceded soon after scoring though (even if it was offside). MP seems to be getting more open in his interviews, it might be me but he seems to have a stronger opinion now Cortese has gone. Little Hitler
  • Score: 5

5:00pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Saint Jinx says...

circa 66 saint wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
AdamG10 wrote:
I thought we did really well today despite the scoreline. city's second goal was a poor, poor decision and completely changed the game. Up until that point we bossed the midfield and were looking great. How many teams have been to the Etihad and had as much possession as we did today? Not many. Still, possession doesn't win games and like most on here I feel we need a few quality additions in the Summer to push on again. Let's remain positive about Jay. I remember Gastons injury at Sunderland not so long ago and that looked awful on TV. I think he was only out for 5-6 weeks in the end. Fingers crossed it will be the same for Jay. His season might be over in a saints shirt but, let's hope he'll be ok to make the WOrld Cup. He so deserves to be on that plane! Come on Jay!!!!
I watched the match in a pub in Kent and after about 25 minutes everyone in the pub was on our side and just so impressed by the quality of our play.
Regarding the offside decision, perhaps the "linesman" thought that a Saints player touched the ball, not Dzeko, thus putting Silva onside.
Anyway, we wus robbed.
Doesn't matter if a saints player touched the ball on its way, the offside is when the ball is kicked. So he was offside at the original pass and also at the final flick so two chances to raise the flag.
I am not so sure. I don't think he was offside when the original pass was made, only when Dzeko passed to him, so if the linesman thought that Dzeko's pass was a "pass" by a Saints defender, then he wasn't offside.. Not sure what you mean by the "final flick". If you mean Dzeko's pass, then the argument still stands. The linesman may have thought the "final flick" was made by a Saints defender. I can see your point though and there seem to be many interpretations. I am going by the FIFA one.
[quote][p][bold]circa 66 saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AdamG10[/bold] wrote: I thought we did really well today despite the scoreline. city's second goal was a poor, poor decision and completely changed the game. Up until that point we bossed the midfield and were looking great. How many teams have been to the Etihad and had as much possession as we did today? Not many. Still, possession doesn't win games and like most on here I feel we need a few quality additions in the Summer to push on again. Let's remain positive about Jay. I remember Gastons injury at Sunderland not so long ago and that looked awful on TV. I think he was only out for 5-6 weeks in the end. Fingers crossed it will be the same for Jay. His season might be over in a saints shirt but, let's hope he'll be ok to make the WOrld Cup. He so deserves to be on that plane! Come on Jay!!!![/p][/quote]I watched the match in a pub in Kent and after about 25 minutes everyone in the pub was on our side and just so impressed by the quality of our play. Regarding the offside decision, perhaps the "linesman" thought that a Saints player touched the ball, not Dzeko, thus putting Silva onside. Anyway, we wus robbed.[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter if a saints player touched the ball on its way, the offside is when the ball is kicked. So he was offside at the original pass and also at the final flick so two chances to raise the flag.[/p][/quote]I am not so sure. I don't think he was offside when the original pass was made, only when Dzeko passed to him, so if the linesman thought that Dzeko's pass was a "pass" by a Saints defender, then he wasn't offside.. Not sure what you mean by the "final flick". If you mean Dzeko's pass, then the argument still stands. The linesman may have thought the "final flick" was made by a Saints defender. I can see your point though and there seem to be many interpretations. I am going by the FIFA one. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 0

5:12pm Sun 6 Apr 14

andysaint says...

Lets hope its not as bad as it looked -good luck jay.
On a different note I've heard from someone close to Luke that
his family feel 'the money is just too good to turn down' Cant say id blame him - they are talking massive wages for the lad -- Manure the likely destination.
Lets hope its not as bad as it looked -good luck jay. On a different note I've heard from someone close to Luke that his family feel 'the money is just too good to turn down' Cant say id blame him - they are talking massive wages for the lad -- Manure the likely destination. andysaint
  • Score: -3

5:37pm Sun 6 Apr 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Just back. Lads played really well and totally dominated the first half. Tbf to the city fans they all said we battered them and respect to them for their ovation for Jay Rod, class act unlike their near neighbours.

Fonte was a penalty, you just do not do that in modern football. Offside was blatantly offside even from behind the goal, appalling decision from linesman and the ref who should have overruled the Lino it was that far off.

Gazza is crap. No more excuses no more for the future nonsense. He cost £2m and no doubt has skill but like Bart freezes on the big stage. We need someone to push Boruc with Kelvin as coach.

Hope Jay isn't as bad as it looked but he's bound to be out for the rest of the season. Play Rickie up top with Gaston playing off him for the whole 90 minutes of each and every match. It will then be obvious whether we stick or twist with him in the summer. Big Sam can give Rickie a rest from time to time.
Last season Gazza struggled at this level.And this season he has struggled again.He needs a season out on loan but i doubt if a championship team would take a punt on him.
As far as i am concerned Bialokowski was a better keeper than Gazza and it was felt by the powers that be that Bart was not considered good enough for the top flight.
Kelvin Davies seems to be forever injured these days. Time to hang up his boots.Hopefully he wil be given a back room job.
On saturday if Boruc is not fit for the Cardiff game then MO PO should be bold and give Cody Cropper his chance.He must have something as he was picked for the full USA squad a month ago.The Yanks have produced some decent keepers over the last few years-Friedel,Howard
,Guzzan to name three.If Cropper has the potential to emulate any of those three then he should do ok in the premier league.
Like any half decent SAINTS fan heres wishing JAY ROD all the very best and a very spéedy recovery.
COYR 3 POINTS AGAINST THE CARDIFF BLUEBIRDS Please.Or to put it in terms that Vincent Tann might understand.LETS STUFF THE RED DRAGONS.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Just back. Lads played really well and totally dominated the first half. Tbf to the city fans they all said we battered them and respect to them for their ovation for Jay Rod, class act unlike their near neighbours. Fonte was a penalty, you just do not do that in modern football. Offside was blatantly offside even from behind the goal, appalling decision from linesman and the ref who should have overruled the Lino it was that far off. Gazza is crap. No more excuses no more for the future nonsense. He cost £2m and no doubt has skill but like Bart freezes on the big stage. We need someone to push Boruc with Kelvin as coach. Hope Jay isn't as bad as it looked but he's bound to be out for the rest of the season. Play Rickie up top with Gaston playing off him for the whole 90 minutes of each and every match. It will then be obvious whether we stick or twist with him in the summer. Big Sam can give Rickie a rest from time to time.[/p][/quote]Last season Gazza struggled at this level.And this season he has struggled again.He needs a season out on loan but i doubt if a championship team would take a punt on him. As far as i am concerned Bialokowski was a better keeper than Gazza and it was felt by the powers that be that Bart was not considered good enough for the top flight. Kelvin Davies seems to be forever injured these days. Time to hang up his boots.Hopefully he wil be given a back room job. On saturday if Boruc is not fit for the Cardiff game then MO PO should be bold and give Cody Cropper his chance.He must have something as he was picked for the full USA squad a month ago.The Yanks have produced some decent keepers over the last few years-Friedel,Howard ,Guzzan to name three.If Cropper has the potential to emulate any of those three then he should do ok in the premier league. Like any half decent SAINTS fan heres wishing JAY ROD all the very best and a very spéedy recovery. COYR 3 POINTS AGAINST THE CARDIFF BLUEBIRDS Please.Or to put it in terms that Vincent Tann might understand.LETS STUFF THE RED DRAGONS. CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 5

5:51pm Sun 6 Apr 14

jrod11 says...

andysaint wrote:
Lets hope its not as bad as it looked -good luck jay.
On a different note I've heard from someone close to Luke that
his family feel 'the money is just too good to turn down' Cant say id blame him - they are talking massive wages for the lad -- Manure the likely destination.
Heard the same..he is on his way then.
[quote][p][bold]andysaint[/bold] wrote: Lets hope its not as bad as it looked -good luck jay. On a different note I've heard from someone close to Luke that his family feel 'the money is just too good to turn down' Cant say id blame him - they are talking massive wages for the lad -- Manure the likely destination.[/p][/quote]Heard the same..he is on his way then. jrod11
  • Score: 0

6:01pm Sun 6 Apr 14

arfer phesache says...

I've just heard from someone close to Luke, that he thinks that Southampton is the best place to be for his football education. And that money is not an issue at the moment, as playing is more important and he thinks that having a brilliant coach and manager, and playing with your mates in a very progressive team is the most important thing for the foreseeable future. And playing with people that have come through the academy with him since he was nine is amazing.
I've just heard from someone close to Luke, that he thinks that Southampton is the best place to be for his football education. And that money is not an issue at the moment, as playing is more important and he thinks that having a brilliant coach and manager, and playing with your mates in a very progressive team is the most important thing for the foreseeable future. And playing with people that have come through the academy with him since he was nine is amazing. arfer phesache
  • Score: 7

6:06pm Sun 6 Apr 14

arfer phesache says...

arfer phesache wrote:
I've just heard from someone close to Luke, that he thinks that Southampton is the best place to be for his football education. And that money is not an issue at the moment, as playing is more important and he thinks that having a brilliant coach and manager, and playing with your mates in a very progressive team is the most important thing for the foreseeable future. And playing with people that have come through the academy with him since he was nine is amazing.
Looks like he's staying then.....
[quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: I've just heard from someone close to Luke, that he thinks that Southampton is the best place to be for his football education. And that money is not an issue at the moment, as playing is more important and he thinks that having a brilliant coach and manager, and playing with your mates in a very progressive team is the most important thing for the foreseeable future. And playing with people that have come through the academy with him since he was nine is amazing.[/p][/quote]Looks like he's staying then..... arfer phesache
  • Score: 3

6:18pm Sun 6 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok.

Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc.

Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.
so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence?
Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads.
Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad.
the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup!
Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!!
where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead.
I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view!
`when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world.
do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again?
as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club.
we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked.

your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!"
ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!"
I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were.
in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room?
I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again.
oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired.
I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead!
What are you on about? I said we couldn't win with Gazza in goal and I was proved correct. And after I advise you to lay off Crispin, you launch into a diatribe which as far as length goes makes War and Peace look like a penguin book. Saying that, I gave you a thumbs up for sheer effort. Tell me, how many times did you have to ice down your throbbing typing hand? I'm sorry but I zoned out near the end of the 19th paragraph, which I think would be classed as a technical knock out. Is there an abridged version knocking about? Now, why don't you prove wrong all of those people who gave you a thumbs down, by cutting out a little bit of the nastiness from your posts. Now, I'll hear no more on the subject.
again with the bullying tactics, you just cant help yourself can you. show me anywhere I have been nasty! you lose an argument and cant cope so your divert attention from it.
again you didn't say "we couldn't win with gazza in goal", you said "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!". by the way do you remember when we beat Cardiff 3-0 this season? we kept a clean sheet and won. do you remember who was in goal?
you seem to take great delight in saints losing yesterday, just because `it proves you right`! it didn't prove you right, neither of the first 2 goals were anything to do with Gazza but you jumped all over him. blaming him for everything. I feel sorry for Gazza with fans like you about. you call me a bully (no evidence provided) yet your treatment of gazza is classic bullying tactics.
I would love to hear your team talk if you had to give one yesterday. "I`m going to state the obvious lads so that i can say how right and clever I am later, so don't bother trying lads, Gazza is in goal so we wont win, hes not prem standard I doubt he is L2 standard and he shouldn't even be at the club. i`ve told the press that we haven't got a chance with gazza playing so go out there and lose so that I can say I told you so after the game. oh and I`ll hear no more on the subject!!!"

we could all see that we were going to struggle yesterday with our third choice keeper playing against one of the best attacks in the country, but most of us decided to try and support him instead of slating him and the team from before kick off, but you support the team how you like! oh and don't forget we only conceded 4, mancy have scored 6 against hoof, Norwich, arsenil and spuds they have also scored 5 against spuds and Fulham and 4 goals in lots of games.

you also seem to care a lot about the `thumbs down`, well it means nothing to me, there are a few people on here who log off and on again so that they can vote loads of times, if I was that worried about it I`d just give up.

Velleity`s posts get lots of thumbs down when a certain poster turns up, its a clear pattern for everyone to see.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Everything crossed for you Jay. Hope it'll be ok. Gazzaniga is a joke, awful again, worst keeper in a Saints shirt since Ian Andrews who at least had a lot on his plate outside of footie to excuse him. He will never be good enough for league 2 let alone Saints. Priority for the summer, sign competition for Boruc. Yes 2nd goal a joke but we'd lost focus by then.[/p][/quote]so given both first and second choice keepers were injured and unavailable for selection, who would you have put in goal? Cropper? do you know if he is any good? how do you know that if he had played we wouldn't have let in more and how would that have affected his confidence? Gazza is clearly lacking in confidence and slating him the way you have isn't going to help is it. and yes players do hear/read what is on these threads. Gazza might not be up to the prem but come on who else would you have picked? should we not have started with a keeper then if he`s that bad. the only way Gazza is going to get any better is by getting game time, maybe he should have gone out on loan to a championship team, but seeing as we have needed him twice this season we would beleft playing cropper with no backup![/p][/quote]Crispin is saying what a lot of fans are feeling, which is that Gazza doesn't look like he belongs playing at this level........yet. And yes we know that we had to play Gazza yesterday, because we had no other option! It doesn't change the fact that when Gazza is in goal we always look like we're going to concede. No one wants to knock the lad but we are paying punters who are entitled to our say on our club, stop trying to bully these posters, it's getting really tired!!![/p][/quote]where have I tried to bully anyone? all ive done is ask questions as to what he would have done differently, that's called debating. see in a debate someone puts forward an argument, ie Gazza is a joke and will never be good enough for L2. so I respond with, what would you have done differently. and who else would you have played instead. I don't care how good or bad any player is, when they put the shirt on they get my total and full support, and as a paying punter I am entitled to my view! `when gazza is in goal we always look like we are going to concede` well you could also say `whoever plays we always look like we are going to concede` we are playing in the prem against some of the best forwards in the world. do you think the constant criticism of certain players, in this case gazza, is going to help them improve? or is it going to heap more pressure on them? Gazza would have been nervous enough before yesterdays game and if he reads some of the comments on these threads how do you think he will feel if he is needed again? as iv`e said before, and make no mistake about this, some players do read these forums and those that don't get to hear what is said about them. if I want to moan about a player I will do so to my mates down the pub, not in an arena where it can affect how they play for the club. we all want the club to step up to the next level but to get there we also need the backup players, and they need our full support when picked. your first post yesterday "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!" ill hear no more on the subject? whos the bully there? you then went on to have a slagg1ng match with Velleity where you both threw names at each other, Velleity was trying to make a point that neither of the first 2 goals were Gazzas fault and your responses were to be delighted that we were losing because it proved you were right. you were trying to bully others into your way of thinking and became more and more obtuse and even seemed to be cheering when gazza did make a mistake. "I called it before the kick and was ultimately proved right. You resorted to insults because you didn't like my honest and ultimately spot on post. He's not Premiership standard....end of story. If you don't like that.....tough. Let's hope you've learnt your lesson, albeit the hard way!!!" I`m so glad you were `proved right` and it took the team you support to lose 4-1 so that you can tell everyone else how right you were. in another post you claimed that the majority of posters were of the same opinion as you, go back and look through them, most were wishing Gazza and the team well. you were desperate for gazza to make a mistake and were telling us how right you were and how others were stupid after the first goal. you are a bully not me, I welcome debate you don't, you try to stop debate and end posts by saying "i will hear no more on the matter" and `end of story`. you can also become very abusive, if someone gives you abuse just be the `bigger man` and rise above it, or are you the argumentative type who could start an argument in an empty room? I welcome and look forward to your response, even though I highly suspect that you will try to bully me again. oh by the way the constant unending abuse you have aimed at Gazza, and I suspect other players but cant be bothered to look it up, that is what is really tired. I also don't think I saw anyone anywhere post that Gazza was prem standard, I did see people offering him support and hoping he would have a good game. I then saw your posts and wondered why you even bothered to watch/listen to the game, you knew city would win because gazza was picked so you could have gone and had a nice afternoon out instead![/p][/quote]What are you on about? I said we couldn't win with Gazza in goal and I was proved correct. And after I advise you to lay off Crispin, you launch into a diatribe which as far as length goes makes War and Peace look like a penguin book. Saying that, I gave you a thumbs up for sheer effort. Tell me, how many times did you have to ice down your throbbing typing hand? I'm sorry but I zoned out near the end of the 19th paragraph, which I think would be classed as a technical knock out. Is there an abridged version knocking about? Now, why don't you prove wrong all of those people who gave you a thumbs down, by cutting out a little bit of the nastiness from your posts. Now, I'll hear no more on the subject.[/p][/quote]again with the bullying tactics, you just cant help yourself can you. show me anywhere I have been nasty! you lose an argument and cant cope so your divert attention from it. again you didn't say "we couldn't win with gazza in goal", you said "Think positive.....blah blah blah. Gazza in goal equals no points today. And I'll hear no more on the subject!". by the way do you remember when we beat Cardiff 3-0 this season? we kept a clean sheet and won. do you remember who was in goal? you seem to take great delight in saints losing yesterday, just because `it proves you right`! it didn't prove you right, neither of the first 2 goals were anything to do with Gazza but you jumped all over him. blaming him for everything. I feel sorry for Gazza with fans like you about. you call me a bully (no evidence provided) yet your treatment of gazza is classic bullying tactics. I would love to hear your team talk if you had to give one yesterday. "I`m going to state the obvious lads so that i can say how right and clever I am later, so don't bother trying lads, Gazza is in goal so we wont win, hes not prem standard I doubt he is L2 standard and he shouldn't even be at the club. i`ve told the press that we haven't got a chance with gazza playing so go out there and lose so that I can say I told you so after the game. oh and I`ll hear no more on the subject!!!" we could all see that we were going to struggle yesterday with our third choice keeper playing against one of the best attacks in the country, but most of us decided to try and support him instead of slating him and the team from before kick off, but you support the team how you like! oh and don't forget we only conceded 4, mancy have scored 6 against hoof, Norwich, arsenil and spuds they have also scored 5 against spuds and Fulham and 4 goals in lots of games. you also seem to care a lot about the `thumbs down`, well it means nothing to me, there are a few people on here who log off and on again so that they can vote loads of times, if I was that worried about it I`d just give up. Velleity`s posts get lots of thumbs down when a certain poster turns up, its a clear pattern for everyone to see. el caballo santos101
  • Score: -1

6:18pm Sun 6 Apr 14

bakeyboy says...

Apparently according to the official Saints website MoPo is really angry about the offside decision, I can sympathize with him a little because it was a poor decision but lets be really honest here, he should be really angry because our team can't firkin defend that's the bottom line here. If you look at the first goal what the hell was Fonte doing, his defending is amateurish at best, the second goal came from a free cross on the their right, where was Shaw (AWOL) the third goal came from a free cross on their left, where was Chambers (AWOL) its alright playing with full backs playing as wingers in possession but when you haven't got the ball they have to be behind defending it but far too often this season our centre halfs are left exposed by runners and end up being pulled out wide. Our system does not work against teams that have pace and power in midfield. (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelski, Citeh ect..) all teams that sussed us out this season. I do hope we strengthen in the summer because although this season has had some really good moments it has also been very frustrating at times.
Apparently according to the official Saints website MoPo is really angry about the offside decision, I can sympathize with him a little because it was a poor decision but lets be really honest here, he should be really angry because our team can't firkin defend that's the bottom line here. If you look at the first goal what the hell was Fonte doing, his defending is amateurish at best, the second goal came from a free cross on the their right, where was Shaw (AWOL) the third goal came from a free cross on their left, where was Chambers (AWOL) its alright playing with full backs playing as wingers in possession but when you haven't got the ball they have to be behind defending it but far too often this season our centre halfs are left exposed by runners and end up being pulled out wide. Our system does not work against teams that have pace and power in midfield. (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelski, Citeh ect..) all teams that sussed us out this season. I do hope we strengthen in the summer because although this season has had some really good moments it has also been very frustrating at times. bakeyboy
  • Score: -2

6:30pm Sun 6 Apr 14

andysaint says...

arfer phesache wrote:
arfer phesache wrote:
I've just heard from someone close to Luke, that he thinks that Southampton is the best place to be for his football education. And that money is not an issue at the moment, as playing is more important and he thinks that having a brilliant coach and manager, and playing with your mates in a very progressive team is the most important thing for the foreseeable future. And playing with people that have come through the academy with him since he was nine is amazing.
Looks like he's staying then.....
Nice one arfer
I guess you thought my post was made up -I suspect the only reason being that the idiot jrod11 agreed with me.
I'm only repeating what i'm told and he is close to Luke. However maybe I should have tempered my post with the obvious facts that Luke is under a long contract and its up to the club if they cash in or not. And if its worth anything I don't want Luke Lalana Lambert ect leaving either!!
[quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: I've just heard from someone close to Luke, that he thinks that Southampton is the best place to be for his football education. And that money is not an issue at the moment, as playing is more important and he thinks that having a brilliant coach and manager, and playing with your mates in a very progressive team is the most important thing for the foreseeable future. And playing with people that have come through the academy with him since he was nine is amazing.[/p][/quote]Looks like he's staying then.....[/p][/quote]Nice one arfer I guess you thought my post was made up -I suspect the only reason being that the idiot jrod11 agreed with me. I'm only repeating what i'm told and he is close to Luke. However maybe I should have tempered my post with the obvious facts that Luke is under a long contract and its up to the club if they cash in or not. And if its worth anything I don't want Luke Lalana Lambert ect leaving either!! andysaint
  • Score: -2

6:41pm Sun 6 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.
The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances. redandy10
  • Score: 2

6:52pm Sun 6 Apr 14

arfer phesache says...

Somebody.... has far to much time on their hands, and really should grow up.
Somebody.... has far to much time on their hands, and really should grow up. arfer phesache
  • Score: 0

7:08pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Folkestone Saint says...

redandy10 wrote:
The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.
I see on BBC teletext that the mail and mirror have been selling our squad to all and sundry this season, it's another reason why I have not bought a paper since july 1994
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.[/p][/quote]I see on BBC teletext that the mail and mirror have been selling our squad to all and sundry this season, it's another reason why I have not bought a paper since july 1994 Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 7

7:17pm Sun 6 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.
I see on BBC teletext that the mail and mirror have been selling our squad to all and sundry this season, it's another reason why I have not bought a paper since july 1994
Yep, hopefully just paper talk. And after his nightmare season Moyes might not even be their manager next season. Luke's the big worry, but it would be better for his career to stay with us for another couple of seasons. He would be able to get some more experience under his belt, without the big spotlight on him.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.[/p][/quote]I see on BBC teletext that the mail and mirror have been selling our squad to all and sundry this season, it's another reason why I have not bought a paper since july 1994[/p][/quote]Yep, hopefully just paper talk. And after his nightmare season Moyes might not even be their manager next season. Luke's the big worry, but it would be better for his career to stay with us for another couple of seasons. He would be able to get some more experience under his belt, without the big spotlight on him. redandy10
  • Score: 3

7:38pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

redandy10 wrote:
The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.
And MoPo is also reported as saying that Luke won't be going to Manure and nobody will be sold who we want to keep. Just like the last transfer window then.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.[/p][/quote]And MoPo is also reported as saying that Luke won't be going to Manure and nobody will be sold who we want to keep. Just like the last transfer window then. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

8:13pm Sun 6 Apr 14

saintbobby says...

God, I wish it was August and everyone was running out together for the first game. I mean everyone - including Jay. Such bad luck for him!
God, I wish it was August and everyone was running out together for the first game. I mean everyone - including Jay. Such bad luck for him! saintbobby
  • Score: 2

8:46pm Sun 6 Apr 14

hedge end bob says...

jrod11 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
Cretin
THRUSH I.L.C.
FOPAD FOREVER
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.[/p][/quote]Cretin[/p][/quote]THRUSH I.L.C. FOPAD FOREVER hedge end bob
  • Score: 0

8:48pm Sun 6 Apr 14

hedge end bob says...

jrod11 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.
Can you keep everyone updated on the latest ?
THRUSH I..L...C.
FOPAD FOREVER
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: JRod came back on the plane, but they are saying it is too early for a prognosis, he is in good hands.[/p][/quote]Can you keep everyone updated on the latest ?[/p][/quote]THRUSH I..L...C. FOPAD FOREVER hedge end bob
  • Score: 1

9:03pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Tirau Dan says...

so many managers here these days.. shame to have all these comments on a thread that should be totally brimming with nothing but best wishes for Jay.

All the best Jay for a speedy and complete recovery.

ps that bastd carroll won't get your place he's a dirty lay about.
so many managers here these days.. shame to have all these comments on a thread that should be totally brimming with nothing but best wishes for Jay. All the best Jay for a speedy and complete recovery. ps that bastd carroll won't get your place he's a dirty lay about. Tirau Dan
  • Score: 3

11:57pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Jesus_02 says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.
I see on BBC teletext that the mail and mirror have been selling our squad to all and sundry this season, it's another reason why I have not bought a paper since july 1994
I wonder at what point the bubble will burst regarding this seemingly sanctioned tapping up...The Mirror have stated that Man U and Chelsea have both already agreed contracts with him. The Mail are also suggesting that Man U are also going to sign Lallana and Schniederlin....I should have become a sports journalist...it must be the easiest job in the world.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: The Daily Mail are reporting that Moyes is confident of getting Luke and that he's tracking Morgan and Adam. The rag is also making hay out of our supposed £27 million gap in our finances.[/p][/quote]I see on BBC teletext that the mail and mirror have been selling our squad to all and sundry this season, it's another reason why I have not bought a paper since july 1994[/p][/quote]I wonder at what point the bubble will burst regarding this seemingly sanctioned tapping up...The Mirror have stated that Man U and Chelsea have both already agreed contracts with him. The Mail are also suggesting that Man U are also going to sign Lallana and Schniederlin....I should have become a sports journalist...it must be the easiest job in the world. Jesus_02
  • Score: 0

12:08am Mon 7 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
so many managers here these days.. shame to have all these comments on a thread that should be totally brimming with nothing but best wishes for Jay.

All the best Jay for a speedy and complete recovery.

ps that bastd carroll won't get your place he's a dirty lay about.
I moaned that the ref and linesman should have got together to talk about the second goal and they would have given it offside if they had, but after looking at the replay of the hoof goal its clear that even if they do get together they can still get it completely wrong! donkey`s arm was only in that position in an attempt to handle the ball into the goal or obstruct the goalkeeper, which he eventually did. donkeys explanation that's `just how it is` when asked about it and that his `arms got to go somewhere` are both absolutely ridiculous. he even said that there were `arms flying about all day`, yes donkey yours! if roy takes donkey to the world cup it will be a travesty, whether he picks him over SRL or not. international refs will book and send him off a lot more than prem refs. if he did that in a world cup or any other international game he would be booked for an obvious foul.
my problem with the two decisions is that they show that refs cant get it right if they talk to the linesman or not and that will increase calls for more technology in the game.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: so many managers here these days.. shame to have all these comments on a thread that should be totally brimming with nothing but best wishes for Jay. All the best Jay for a speedy and complete recovery. ps that bastd carroll won't get your place he's a dirty lay about.[/p][/quote]I moaned that the ref and linesman should have got together to talk about the second goal and they would have given it offside if they had, but after looking at the replay of the hoof goal its clear that even if they do get together they can still get it completely wrong! donkey`s arm was only in that position in an attempt to handle the ball into the goal or obstruct the goalkeeper, which he eventually did. donkeys explanation that's `just how it is` when asked about it and that his `arms got to go somewhere` are both absolutely ridiculous. he even said that there were `arms flying about all day`, yes donkey yours! if roy takes donkey to the world cup it will be a travesty, whether he picks him over SRL or not. international refs will book and send him off a lot more than prem refs. if he did that in a world cup or any other international game he would be booked for an obvious foul. my problem with the two decisions is that they show that refs cant get it right if they talk to the linesman or not and that will increase calls for more technology in the game. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

8:30am Mon 7 Apr 14

george chivers says...

bakeyboy wrote:
Apparently according to the official Saints website MoPo is really angry about the offside decision, I can sympathize with him a little because it was a poor decision but lets be really honest here, he should be really angry because our team can't firkin defend that's the bottom line here. If you look at the first goal what the hell was Fonte doing, his defending is amateurish at best, the second goal came from a free cross on the their right, where was Shaw (AWOL) the third goal came from a free cross on their left, where was Chambers (AWOL) its alright playing with full backs playing as wingers in possession but when you haven't got the ball they have to be behind defending it but far too often this season our centre halfs are left exposed by runners and end up being pulled out wide. Our system does not work against teams that have pace and power in midfield. (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelski, Citeh ect..) all teams that sussed us out this season. I do hope we strengthen in the summer because although this season has had some really good moments it has also been very frustrating at times.
Fair comment but you won't get much sympathy for it on here. However I do think in MOPO's defence if the offside had been given neither goal would have been scored and we would have gone in 1-1 at half time.

We do need to strengthen in the summer a central defender and a keeper are priorities.
[quote][p][bold]bakeyboy[/bold] wrote: Apparently according to the official Saints website MoPo is really angry about the offside decision, I can sympathize with him a little because it was a poor decision but lets be really honest here, he should be really angry because our team can't firkin defend that's the bottom line here. If you look at the first goal what the hell was Fonte doing, his defending is amateurish at best, the second goal came from a free cross on the their right, where was Shaw (AWOL) the third goal came from a free cross on their left, where was Chambers (AWOL) its alright playing with full backs playing as wingers in possession but when you haven't got the ball they have to be behind defending it but far too often this season our centre halfs are left exposed by runners and end up being pulled out wide. Our system does not work against teams that have pace and power in midfield. (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelski, Citeh ect..) all teams that sussed us out this season. I do hope we strengthen in the summer because although this season has had some really good moments it has also been very frustrating at times.[/p][/quote]Fair comment but you won't get much sympathy for it on here. However I do think in MOPO's defence if the offside had been given neither goal would have been scored and we would have gone in 1-1 at half time. We do need to strengthen in the summer a central defender and a keeper are priorities. george chivers
  • Score: 0

11:10am Mon 7 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
bakeyboy wrote:
Apparently according to the official Saints website MoPo is really angry about the offside decision, I can sympathize with him a little because it was a poor decision but lets be really honest here, he should be really angry because our team can't firkin defend that's the bottom line here. If you look at the first goal what the hell was Fonte doing, his defending is amateurish at best, the second goal came from a free cross on the their right, where was Shaw (AWOL) the third goal came from a free cross on their left, where was Chambers (AWOL) its alright playing with full backs playing as wingers in possession but when you haven't got the ball they have to be behind defending it but far too often this season our centre halfs are left exposed by runners and end up being pulled out wide. Our system does not work against teams that have pace and power in midfield. (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelski, Citeh ect..) all teams that sussed us out this season. I do hope we strengthen in the summer because although this season has had some really good moments it has also been very frustrating at times.
Fair comment but you won't get much sympathy for it on here. However I do think in MOPO's defence if the offside had been given neither goal would have been scored and we would have gone in 1-1 at half time.

We do need to strengthen in the summer a central defender and a keeper are priorities.
One of the most astute posts that you have made, I agree with every word of it. Good positive waves. Nothing we can do about the Officiating sadly, but you are spot on, essential to get in a quality CB and we have all been pleading for a class GK, to replace or back up Artur for the last couple of Windows, finding one could be a problem, I have a couple of thoughts on the subject but probably just wishful thinking!.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bakeyboy[/bold] wrote: Apparently according to the official Saints website MoPo is really angry about the offside decision, I can sympathize with him a little because it was a poor decision but lets be really honest here, he should be really angry because our team can't firkin defend that's the bottom line here. If you look at the first goal what the hell was Fonte doing, his defending is amateurish at best, the second goal came from a free cross on the their right, where was Shaw (AWOL) the third goal came from a free cross on their left, where was Chambers (AWOL) its alright playing with full backs playing as wingers in possession but when you haven't got the ball they have to be behind defending it but far too often this season our centre halfs are left exposed by runners and end up being pulled out wide. Our system does not work against teams that have pace and power in midfield. (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelski, Citeh ect..) all teams that sussed us out this season. I do hope we strengthen in the summer because although this season has had some really good moments it has also been very frustrating at times.[/p][/quote]Fair comment but you won't get much sympathy for it on here. However I do think in MOPO's defence if the offside had been given neither goal would have been scored and we would have gone in 1-1 at half time. We do need to strengthen in the summer a central defender and a keeper are priorities.[/p][/quote]One of the most astute posts that you have made, I agree with every word of it. Good positive waves. Nothing we can do about the Officiating sadly, but you are spot on, essential to get in a quality CB and we have all been pleading for a class GK, to replace or back up Artur for the last couple of Windows, finding one could be a problem, I have a couple of thoughts on the subject but probably just wishful thinking!. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:19am Mon 7 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
so many managers here these days.. shame to have all these comments on a thread that should be totally brimming with nothing but best wishes for Jay.

All the best Jay for a speedy and complete recovery.

ps that bastd carroll won't get your place he's a dirty lay about.
Our thoughts about Jay Rod go without saying, we are all wishing him a speedy recovery and are hoping that it isn't as bad as it looked initially, we have one of the best medical teams in the business and he is in good hands, at least we can have the luxury of not needing him in a vital relegation scrap. He can get fit and come back when good and ready, absolutely no call to rush it. I hope our players put in a performance dedicated to him on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: so many managers here these days.. shame to have all these comments on a thread that should be totally brimming with nothing but best wishes for Jay. All the best Jay for a speedy and complete recovery. ps that bastd carroll won't get your place he's a dirty lay about.[/p][/quote]Our thoughts about Jay Rod go without saying, we are all wishing him a speedy recovery and are hoping that it isn't as bad as it looked initially, we have one of the best medical teams in the business and he is in good hands, at least we can have the luxury of not needing him in a vital relegation scrap. He can get fit and come back when good and ready, absolutely no call to rush it. I hope our players put in a performance dedicated to him on Saturday. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

4:52pm Mon 7 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

bakeyboy wrote:
Apparently according to the official Saints website MoPo is really angry about the offside decision, I can sympathize with him a little because it was a poor decision but lets be really honest here, he should be really angry because our team can't firkin defend that's the bottom line here. If you look at the first goal what the hell was Fonte doing, his defending is amateurish at best, the second goal came from a free cross on the their right, where was Shaw (AWOL) the third goal came from a free cross on their left, where was Chambers (AWOL) its alright playing with full backs playing as wingers in possession but when you haven't got the ball they have to be behind defending it but far too often this season our centre halfs are left exposed by runners and end up being pulled out wide. Our system does not work against teams that have pace and power in midfield. (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelski, Citeh ect..) all teams that sussed us out this season. I do hope we strengthen in the summer because although this season has had some really good moments it has also been very frustrating at times.
Your post is not popular..unfortunate
ly it is true..
[quote][p][bold]bakeyboy[/bold] wrote: Apparently according to the official Saints website MoPo is really angry about the offside decision, I can sympathize with him a little because it was a poor decision but lets be really honest here, he should be really angry because our team can't firkin defend that's the bottom line here. If you look at the first goal what the hell was Fonte doing, his defending is amateurish at best, the second goal came from a free cross on the their right, where was Shaw (AWOL) the third goal came from a free cross on their left, where was Chambers (AWOL) its alright playing with full backs playing as wingers in possession but when you haven't got the ball they have to be behind defending it but far too often this season our centre halfs are left exposed by runners and end up being pulled out wide. Our system does not work against teams that have pace and power in midfield. (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelski, Citeh ect..) all teams that sussed us out this season. I do hope we strengthen in the summer because although this season has had some really good moments it has also been very frustrating at times.[/p][/quote]Your post is not popular..unfortunate ly it is true.. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

5:02pm Mon 7 Apr 14

alanstreet46 says...

Poch may be downbeat over Jay R but I wonder how he feels about the latest report in the Telegraph -



Tottenham Hotspur plan to replace Tim Sherwood with a new head coach at the end of the season.
"Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino is emerging as a serious challenger to Dutchman Louis van Gaal to replace Sherwood at White Hart Lane, with sources close to Spurs chairman Daniel Levy claiming the Argentine is now the club’s number one target. "
Moreover -
"There is also hope inside Spurs that Pochettino would also be able to take midfielder Adam Lallana with him to north London. The England international is high on Tottenham’s list of summer transfer targets."

What think ye folks,. Idle speculation or will poch let us down?
Poch may be downbeat over Jay R but I wonder how he feels about the latest report in the Telegraph - Tottenham Hotspur plan to replace Tim Sherwood with a new head coach at the end of the season. "Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino is emerging as a serious challenger to Dutchman Louis van Gaal to replace Sherwood at White Hart Lane, with sources close to Spurs chairman Daniel Levy claiming the Argentine is now the club’s number one target. " Moreover - "There is also hope inside Spurs that Pochettino would also be able to take midfielder Adam Lallana with him to north London. The England international is high on Tottenham’s list of summer transfer targets." What think ye folks,. Idle speculation or will poch let us down? alanstreet46
  • Score: 0

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