Saints' academy knowhow can be an asset

Basingstoke Gazette: Luke Shaw Luke Shaw

Making money from their academy is nothing new for Saints – but now the club hope to profit from the ideas that come out of that prestigious system, rather than simply the players.

An incredible abundance of talent has been produced at St Mary’s in recent years, including the likes of Theo Walcott, Gareth Bale, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw.

Go back further, to when the club was situated at The Dell, and you will find names such as Matt Le Tissier and Alan Shearer among the list of graduates from the youth ranks.

It is a long and proud history of development that has helped the club establish a reputation as one of the leading academy centres in football.

It has also provided a valuable source of revenue over the years, with Saints raking in tens of millions from selling players who have come through that system.

However, the club’s new board believe they have identified a fresh and innovative way of profiting from it – by offering access to their expertise.

“Intellectual capital is an asset,” said chairman Ralph Krueger.

“The intellectual capital that we have here, positioning it and using it – that is where I hope that my contacts and my background can become an asset to the organisation.”

He added: “The key is to monetise it without losing the soul. To also use the knowledge that is there.

“The respect that I feel worldwide for the academy, let’s find a way to monetise that.”

Krueger is not talking about devaluing Saints’ celebrated system by selling any secrets to their rivals.

What he is saying is that there are developing markets around the world, particularly in North America, where advice is being sought on how to set up and run such centres, and how to coach players. Given the strength of Saints’ reputation, Krueger believes there are plenty of organisations who would be keen to tap into their expertise and learn from their methods, for a price.

“You have to retain certain areas for yourself, that is of course the case,” he said.

“But there is generality that is out there, of the way you train and the way you do things, that are public knowledge right here in England – it’s the norm.

“But we are speaking about developing nations. I mean, the US and Canada are developing football nations right now, and excited to develop.”

Krueger has already spoken about how Saints possess a completely different brand to clubs such as Manchester United, Manchester City or Arsenal, and how he wants to position them “uniquely”.

One area in which he sees potential to do that is through the academy, and their record for producing young English talent.

“We are unique in that situation and I love the academy spirit,” he said. “We have a product there. The coaching depth, we have the sports science angle – the knowledge that is there is very deep-running.”

Krueger offered a first-hand example of how far-reaching the academy’s reputation already is.

“Somebody I know just purchased the football team in Geneva,” he said. “He didn't know I was coming here, and I ran into him in December. I’d had some conversations already with Southampton, and he said ‘We are going to build an academy.’ I said ‘That’s interesting, where are you looking?’ “He said ‘Well, I have hired two Englishmen, but we are looking at Southampton.’ “This is the guy who buys the team in Geneva, saying we are using Southampton as the model for our academy.”

Krueger later quipped: “Next time I see him, he is going to have to send us a cheque.”

The first of many, he will hope.

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6:36am Fri 21 Mar 14

Wayne marchant says...

Better to keep our secrets to ourselves
Better to keep our secrets to ourselves Wayne marchant
  • Score: 12

7:08am Fri 21 Mar 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

We will end up with satellite academies all over the world, lol
We will end up with satellite academies all over the world, lol Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 7

7:29am Fri 21 Mar 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
We will end up with satellite academies all over the world, lol
Man City are trying it with football clubs, they’ve bought the expansion rights to New York City FC and recently acquired 80% of Melbourne Heart.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: We will end up with satellite academies all over the world, lol[/p][/quote]Man City are trying it with football clubs, they’ve bought the expansion rights to New York City FC and recently acquired 80% of Melbourne Heart. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

8:42am Fri 21 Mar 14

Abbey Saint says...

Our academy will not remain unique. The days when big clubs could rely on just buying in talent from Southampton are over. They will need to respond to that making their own facilities more effective. Overall, this should mean a much stronger pool of English players at the top level, here and abroad. This process will reverse the need for importing overseas and overhyped players. Indeed, we have already seen early evidence of this in Gareth Bale's move to Real Madrid. This will come to be seen in future as Saints gift to English football. I couldn't be more proud of what Saints have achieved since the end of the Lowe era. And those achievements have been brought about by the Foresight and honesty of both Markus and Katherina Liebherr. The CEOs will come and go, but whilst the Liebherr family remain at the helm the good ship Southampton will continue its magical journey.
Our academy will not remain unique. The days when big clubs could rely on just buying in talent from Southampton are over. They will need to respond to that making their own facilities more effective. Overall, this should mean a much stronger pool of English players at the top level, here and abroad. This process will reverse the need for importing overseas and overhyped players. Indeed, we have already seen early evidence of this in Gareth Bale's move to Real Madrid. This will come to be seen in future as Saints gift to English football. I couldn't be more proud of what Saints have achieved since the end of the Lowe era. And those achievements have been brought about by the Foresight and honesty of both Markus and Katherina Liebherr. The CEOs will come and go, but whilst the Liebherr family remain at the helm the good ship Southampton will continue its magical journey. Abbey Saint
  • Score: 9

9:22am Fri 21 Mar 14

Mister E says...

Wayne marchant wrote:
Better to keep our secrets to ourselves
Read the article again.
He made it clear, the one thing we won't sell: our secrets!
Only a fool would do that and that is one thing he isn't.
[quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: Better to keep our secrets to ourselves[/p][/quote]Read the article again. He made it clear, the one thing we won't sell: our secrets! Only a fool would do that and that is one thing he isn't. Mister E
  • Score: 21

9:30am Fri 21 Mar 14

The Straight Shooter says...

Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?
Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea? The Straight Shooter
  • Score: -25

9:36am Fri 21 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

The Straight Shooter wrote:
Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?
Do you know York come to Fratton tomorrow on the back of four straight wins? Then you're away to league leaders Rochdale on Tuesday? Your week, like your life, is sh!t.
[quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?[/p][/quote]Do you know York come to Fratton tomorrow on the back of four straight wins? Then you're away to league leaders Rochdale on Tuesday? Your week, like your life, is sh!t. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 20

9:38am Fri 21 Mar 14

The Straight Shooter says...

You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping? The Straight Shooter
  • Score: -22

10:08am Fri 21 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

Mister E wrote:
Wayne marchant wrote:
Better to keep our secrets to ourselves
Read the article again.
He made it clear, the one thing we won't sell: our secrets!
Only a fool would do that and that is one thing he isn't.
I would much prefer if they didn't sell our talented youth. Surely if someone like Shaw were to move to say Chelsea then "our secrets" go with him.
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: Better to keep our secrets to ourselves[/p][/quote]Read the article again. He made it clear, the one thing we won't sell: our secrets! Only a fool would do that and that is one thing he isn't.[/p][/quote]I would much prefer if they didn't sell our talented youth. Surely if someone like Shaw were to move to say Chelsea then "our secrets" go with him. JohnItaly
  • Score: 7

10:13am Fri 21 Mar 14

JohnItaly says...

Mister E wrote:
Wayne marchant wrote:
Better to keep our secrets to ourselves
Read the article again.
He made it clear, the one thing we won't sell: our secrets!
Only a fool would do that and that is one thing he isn't.
I would much prefer if they didn't sell our talented youth. Surely if someone like Shaw were to move to say Chelsea then "our secrets" go with him.
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: Better to keep our secrets to ourselves[/p][/quote]Read the article again. He made it clear, the one thing we won't sell: our secrets! Only a fool would do that and that is one thing he isn't.[/p][/quote]I would much prefer if they didn't sell our talented youth. Surely if someone like Shaw were to move to say Chelsea then "our secrets" go with him. JohnItaly
  • Score: -2

10:22am Fri 21 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Wayne marchant wrote:
Better to keep our secrets to ourselves
Its just refreshing to hear some inside information about the clubs activities, vocalised by someone at the sharp end.Something that's been missing for far too long.
As fans we have a right to be party to what is going on,and be regularly updated,and it appears that Krueger understands this.I'm not sure that Nicola(bless him),ever did.
[quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: Better to keep our secrets to ourselves[/p][/quote]Its just refreshing to hear some inside information about the clubs activities, vocalised by someone at the sharp end.Something that's been missing for far too long. As fans we have a right to be party to what is going on,and be regularly updated,and it appears that Krueger understands this.I'm not sure that Nicola(bless him),ever did. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

11:09am Fri 21 Mar 14

deadly666 says...

I know I'll probably get slated for this, but......

The success of the academy is partially down to the Rupert Lowe era (as much as I hate to say it). He wanted a seamless transition of players from the youth team into the first team, as did Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte - and whilst I pray we never see the likes of those three at Southampton FC again, they did pave the way for players such as Schneiderlin, Lallana, Bale etc to be first team players. And no, I'm not saying that they are the sole reason that we have such a successful academy set-up, they did all contribute significantly in one way or another.

However, I am eternally grateful that ML and NC had the good sense to get rid of Wotte when they bought the club. I feel if they hadn't, we may be languishing where the dirty blue army are now!
I know I'll probably get slated for this, but...... The success of the academy is partially down to the Rupert Lowe era (as much as I hate to say it). He wanted a seamless transition of players from the youth team into the first team, as did Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte - and whilst I pray we never see the likes of those three at Southampton FC again, they did pave the way for players such as Schneiderlin, Lallana, Bale etc to be first team players. And no, I'm not saying that they are the sole reason that we have such a successful academy set-up, they did all contribute significantly in one way or another. However, I am eternally grateful that ML and NC had the good sense to get rid of Wotte when they bought the club. I feel if they hadn't, we may be languishing where the dirty blue army are now! deadly666
  • Score: 15

11:21am Fri 21 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

deadly666 wrote:
I know I'll probably get slated for this, but......

The success of the academy is partially down to the Rupert Lowe era (as much as I hate to say it). He wanted a seamless transition of players from the youth team into the first team, as did Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte - and whilst I pray we never see the likes of those three at Southampton FC again, they did pave the way for players such as Schneiderlin, Lallana, Bale etc to be first team players. And no, I'm not saying that they are the sole reason that we have such a successful academy set-up, they did all contribute significantly in one way or another.

However, I am eternally grateful that ML and NC had the good sense to get rid of Wotte when they bought the club. I feel if they hadn't, we may be languishing where the dirty blue army are now!
You shouldn't really worry about being slated, the subject has been debated to death over the years, ML just perpetuated what had already been started, and that had to be a good thing, the rest is history, move on.
[quote][p][bold]deadly666[/bold] wrote: I know I'll probably get slated for this, but...... The success of the academy is partially down to the Rupert Lowe era (as much as I hate to say it). He wanted a seamless transition of players from the youth team into the first team, as did Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte - and whilst I pray we never see the likes of those three at Southampton FC again, they did pave the way for players such as Schneiderlin, Lallana, Bale etc to be first team players. And no, I'm not saying that they are the sole reason that we have such a successful academy set-up, they did all contribute significantly in one way or another. However, I am eternally grateful that ML and NC had the good sense to get rid of Wotte when they bought the club. I feel if they hadn't, we may be languishing where the dirty blue army are now![/p][/quote]You shouldn't really worry about being slated, the subject has been debated to death over the years, ML just perpetuated what had already been started, and that had to be a good thing, the rest is history, move on. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

11:23am Fri 21 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.
[quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 9

12:04pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Baba Booey says...

The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
Change the record.
[quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]Change the record. Baba Booey
  • Score: 2

12:42pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Wayne marchant wrote:
Better to keep our secrets to ourselves
Its just refreshing to hear some inside information about the clubs activities, vocalised by someone at the sharp end.Something that's been missing for far too long.
As fans we have a right to be party to what is going on,and be regularly updated,and it appears that Krueger understands this.I'm not sure that Nicola(bless him),ever did.
Totally agree. Definitely an improvement.

However, I'm still waiting to hear Krueger say we are aiming for the champions league and he will kill anyone who gets in our way. That's sort of what NC said and I must say I believed him.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: Better to keep our secrets to ourselves[/p][/quote]Its just refreshing to hear some inside information about the clubs activities, vocalised by someone at the sharp end.Something that's been missing for far too long. As fans we have a right to be party to what is going on,and be regularly updated,and it appears that Krueger understands this.I'm not sure that Nicola(bless him),ever did.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Definitely an improvement. However, I'm still waiting to hear Krueger say we are aiming for the champions league and he will kill anyone who gets in our way. That's sort of what NC said and I must say I believed him. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

1:02pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
It doesn't become asset stripping until several players leave, and it then only becomes asset stripping if players of similar standing aren't bought to replace them.
At the moment it's just the media trying their best to unsettle our players on the promise of getting preferential treatment from the "big" clubs they are helping out.
[quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]It doesn't become asset stripping until several players leave, and it then only becomes asset stripping if players of similar standing aren't bought to replace them. At the moment it's just the media trying their best to unsettle our players on the promise of getting preferential treatment from the "big" clubs they are helping out. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

1:08pm Fri 21 Mar 14

saints fan #1 says...

We got to remember Krueger is there to over see the business and were we can make more money without getting rid of our best assets. MoPo is there to get us into the champions legue and a dream come true to win the Legue.
Both make a great combination COYR
We got to remember Krueger is there to over see the business and were we can make more money without getting rid of our best assets. MoPo is there to get us into the champions legue and a dream come true to win the Legue. Both make a great combination COYR saints fan #1
  • Score: 1

1:53pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Baba Booey wrote:
The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
Change the record.
I wish I could fly way up to the sky but I can't,
You can,
I can't!

Change the record indeed.
Do one Orville, you are making a mockery of yourself and your imaginary friend on this forum ... enough said!
[quote][p][bold]Baba Booey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]Change the record.[/p][/quote]I wish I could fly way up to the sky but I can't, You can, I can't! Change the record indeed. Do one Orville, you are making a mockery of yourself and your imaginary friend on this forum ... enough said! Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 7

2:00pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

deadly666 wrote:
I know I'll probably get slated for this, but......

The success of the academy is partially down to the Rupert Lowe era (as much as I hate to say it). He wanted a seamless transition of players from the youth team into the first team, as did Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte - and whilst I pray we never see the likes of those three at Southampton FC again, they did pave the way for players such as Schneiderlin, Lallana, Bale etc to be first team players. And no, I'm not saying that they are the sole reason that we have such a successful academy set-up, they did all contribute significantly in one way or another.

However, I am eternally grateful that ML and NC had the good sense to get rid of Wotte when they bought the club. I feel if they hadn't, we may be languishing where the dirty blue army are now!
You forget that we produced the likes of Chivers and Channon long before the Lowe(est) era of our existance
[quote][p][bold]deadly666[/bold] wrote: I know I'll probably get slated for this, but...... The success of the academy is partially down to the Rupert Lowe era (as much as I hate to say it). He wanted a seamless transition of players from the youth team into the first team, as did Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte - and whilst I pray we never see the likes of those three at Southampton FC again, they did pave the way for players such as Schneiderlin, Lallana, Bale etc to be first team players. And no, I'm not saying that they are the sole reason that we have such a successful academy set-up, they did all contribute significantly in one way or another. However, I am eternally grateful that ML and NC had the good sense to get rid of Wotte when they bought the club. I feel if they hadn't, we may be languishing where the dirty blue army are now![/p][/quote]You forget that we produced the likes of Chivers and Channon long before the Lowe(est) era of our existance Saintsayer II
  • Score: 1

2:01pm Fri 21 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.
osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.[/p][/quote]osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

2:05pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

The knowledge required to build and run an academy can be bought from several sources If you are the person /club needing it why wouldn't you buy it rom the best available ?
If you had the money which car would you by A ctroen C2 or a Jag
The knowledge required to build and run an academy can be bought from several sources If you are the person /club needing it why wouldn't you buy it rom the best available ? If you had the money which car would you by A ctroen C2 or a Jag Saintsayer II
  • Score: 0

2:37pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Jesus_02 says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
deadly666 wrote:
I know I'll probably get slated for this, but......

The success of the academy is partially down to the Rupert Lowe era (as much as I hate to say it). He wanted a seamless transition of players from the youth team into the first team, as did Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte - and whilst I pray we never see the likes of those three at Southampton FC again, they did pave the way for players such as Schneiderlin, Lallana, Bale etc to be first team players. And no, I'm not saying that they are the sole reason that we have such a successful academy set-up, they did all contribute significantly in one way or another.

However, I am eternally grateful that ML and NC had the good sense to get rid of Wotte when they bought the club. I feel if they hadn't, we may be languishing where the dirty blue army are now!
You forget that we produced the likes of Chivers and Channon long before the Lowe(est) era of our existance
Lowe set up a good academy system yes... but as with the rest of his schemes he failed to exploit it with any success.

He was completely short sighted both in his approach and his estimation on the number of players the academy could generate. Basically he thought that if he could sell player for more than he purchased them at the earliest opportunity he could buy more raw materials (average players) and simply make more.

The result was that we ended up with a large, rubbish, squad that inspired mediocrity, or more ambitious players to leave.

What we have seen in the last few years is a world away from anything that Lowe oversaw.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deadly666[/bold] wrote: I know I'll probably get slated for this, but...... The success of the academy is partially down to the Rupert Lowe era (as much as I hate to say it). He wanted a seamless transition of players from the youth team into the first team, as did Jan Poortvliet and Mark Wotte - and whilst I pray we never see the likes of those three at Southampton FC again, they did pave the way for players such as Schneiderlin, Lallana, Bale etc to be first team players. And no, I'm not saying that they are the sole reason that we have such a successful academy set-up, they did all contribute significantly in one way or another. However, I am eternally grateful that ML and NC had the good sense to get rid of Wotte when they bought the club. I feel if they hadn't, we may be languishing where the dirty blue army are now![/p][/quote]You forget that we produced the likes of Chivers and Channon long before the Lowe(est) era of our existance[/p][/quote]Lowe set up a good academy system yes... but as with the rest of his schemes he failed to exploit it with any success. He was completely short sighted both in his approach and his estimation on the number of players the academy could generate. Basically he thought that if he could sell player for more than he purchased them at the earliest opportunity he could buy more raw materials (average players) and simply make more. The result was that we ended up with a large, rubbish, squad that inspired mediocrity, or more ambitious players to leave. What we have seen in the last few years is a world away from anything that Lowe oversaw. Jesus_02
  • Score: -2

2:42pm Fri 21 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.
osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name!
I have a bad memory I know, but I cannot recall that sign on name, are you sure that is right? I tried archiving it but came up blank.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.[/p][/quote]osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name![/p][/quote]I have a bad memory I know, but I cannot recall that sign on name, are you sure that is right? I tried archiving it but came up blank. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:57pm Fri 21 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

One thing about archiving is finding blasts from the past, names that have disappeared, no doubt replaced with new ones, where are MGRA, GHK, PTID1898, Thomas Upton, Bpl333 e.t.c. and reading some of their posts, boy did they get things wrong!
One thing about archiving is finding blasts from the past, names that have disappeared, no doubt replaced with new ones, where are MGRA, GHK, PTID1898, Thomas Upton, Bpl333 e.t.c. and reading some of their posts, boy did they get things wrong! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:59pm Fri 21 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.
osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name!
I have a bad memory I know, but I cannot recall that sign on name, are you sure that is right? I tried archiving it but came up blank.
osprey kenty was the one who kept calling adkins `tango man/head` and was always going on about how he should spend less time on a sunbed and more coaching the team. hope that helps.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.[/p][/quote]osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name![/p][/quote]I have a bad memory I know, but I cannot recall that sign on name, are you sure that is right? I tried archiving it but came up blank.[/p][/quote]osprey kenty was the one who kept calling adkins `tango man/head` and was always going on about how he should spend less time on a sunbed and more coaching the team. hope that helps. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

3:00pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Mister E says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Mister E wrote:
Wayne marchant wrote:
Better to keep our secrets to ourselves
Read the article again.
He made it clear, the one thing we won't sell: our secrets!
Only a fool would do that and that is one thing he isn't.
I would much prefer if they didn't sell our talented youth. Surely if someone like Shaw were to move to say Chelsea then "our secrets" go with him.
Yes, and that would happen with any club when a player is sold, youth or otherwise.
But, your statement implies we want to sell our youth. I say to you as well: read it again!
Where in this, or any other article that Ralph is quoted in, is it suggested that is his intention?
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wayne marchant[/bold] wrote: Better to keep our secrets to ourselves[/p][/quote]Read the article again. He made it clear, the one thing we won't sell: our secrets! Only a fool would do that and that is one thing he isn't.[/p][/quote]I would much prefer if they didn't sell our talented youth. Surely if someone like Shaw were to move to say Chelsea then "our secrets" go with him.[/p][/quote]Yes, and that would happen with any club when a player is sold, youth or otherwise. But, your statement implies we want to sell our youth. I say to you as well: read it again! Where in this, or any other article that Ralph is quoted in, is it suggested that is his intention? Mister E
  • Score: 1

3:11pm Fri 21 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.
osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name!
I have a bad memory I know, but I cannot recall that sign on name, are you sure that is right? I tried archiving it but came up blank.
osprey kenty was the one who kept calling adkins `tango man/head` and was always going on about how he should spend less time on a sunbed and more coaching the team. hope that helps.
Now I remember him, I have just been browsing that Nigel Adkins sacking thread, one of the all time greats in my mind, glad I didn't make a fool of myself on it, but if you have an afternoon to spare it's well worth looking at it again
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/sport/1017147
9.Saints_sack_Adkins
_and_appoint_Pochett
ino/
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.[/p][/quote]osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name![/p][/quote]I have a bad memory I know, but I cannot recall that sign on name, are you sure that is right? I tried archiving it but came up blank.[/p][/quote]osprey kenty was the one who kept calling adkins `tango man/head` and was always going on about how he should spend less time on a sunbed and more coaching the team. hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Now I remember him, I have just been browsing that Nigel Adkins sacking thread, one of the all time greats in my mind, glad I didn't make a fool of myself on it, but if you have an afternoon to spare it's well worth looking at it again http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1017147 9.Saints_sack_Adkins _and_appoint_Pochett ino/ OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:23pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Independence for Marchwood says...

"Somebody I know just purchased the football team in Geneva,” he said. “He didn't know I was coming here, and I ran into him in December. I’d had some conversations already with Southampton"

So Freddy was already in line for the job months before Cortese left?
"Somebody I know just purchased the football team in Geneva,” he said. “He didn't know I was coming here, and I ran into him in December. I’d had some conversations already with Southampton" So Freddy was already in line for the job months before Cortese left? Independence for Marchwood
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Costa Baz says...

Independence for Marchwood wrote:
"Somebody I know just purchased the football team in Geneva,” he said. “He didn't know I was coming here, and I ran into him in December. I’d had some conversations already with Southampton"

So Freddy was already in line for the job months before Cortese left?
Why not? Cortese was working his notice.
[quote][p][bold]Independence for Marchwood[/bold] wrote: "Somebody I know just purchased the football team in Geneva,” he said. “He didn't know I was coming here, and I ran into him in December. I’d had some conversations already with Southampton" So Freddy was already in line for the job months before Cortese left?[/p][/quote]Why not? Cortese was working his notice. Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

7:04pm Fri 21 Mar 14

saintbobby says...

The Straight Shooter wrote:
Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?
It's all very well giving this lots of thumbs down. But we must hope that the intention often stated is actually the policy.

We have sold too many in the past but now, happily, probably do not need the money so much, if at all.

The biggest problem is if success does not come and some of our stars become impatient. The close season will be an indication of the club's plans/determination to progress and build on this wonderful season. I, for one, am praying and all fingers are crossed.

Come on you Saints!
[quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?[/p][/quote]It's all very well giving this lots of thumbs down. But we must hope that the intention often stated is actually the policy. We have sold too many in the past but now, happily, probably do not need the money so much, if at all. The biggest problem is if success does not come and some of our stars become impatient. The close season will be an indication of the club's plans/determination to progress and build on this wonderful season. I, for one, am praying and all fingers are crossed. Come on you Saints! saintbobby
  • Score: 1

7:14pm Fri 21 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Independence for Marchwood wrote:
"Somebody I know just purchased the football team in Geneva,” he said. “He didn't know I was coming here, and I ran into him in December. I’d had some conversations already with Southampton"

So Freddy was already in line for the job months before Cortese left?
Why not? Cortese was working his notice.
There are those that said the writing was on the wall as early as last August, so no real surprise for them when it finaly happened.

Richie Barker has just been on Sky Sports being made to say good things about us, especially about Rickie Lambert! I suspect some skates will not be happy about that at all.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independence for Marchwood[/bold] wrote: "Somebody I know just purchased the football team in Geneva,” he said. “He didn't know I was coming here, and I ran into him in December. I’d had some conversations already with Southampton" So Freddy was already in line for the job months before Cortese left?[/p][/quote]Why not? Cortese was working his notice.[/p][/quote]There are those that said the writing was on the wall as early as last August, so no real surprise for them when it finaly happened. Richie Barker has just been on Sky Sports being made to say good things about us, especially about Rickie Lambert! I suspect some skates will not be happy about that at all. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

7:42pm Fri 21 Mar 14

DisplacedFan says...

The Straight Shooter wrote:
Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?
Yes and Elvis will be taking over the Academy while teaching the players some of his famous moves.
[quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?[/p][/quote]Yes and Elvis will be taking over the Academy while teaching the players some of his famous moves. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 2

8:25pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
One thing about archiving is finding blasts from the past, names that have disappeared, no doubt replaced with new ones, where are MGRA, GHK, PTID1898, Thomas Upton, Bpl333 e.t.c. and reading some of their posts, boy did they get things wrong!
Not forgetting 5 braincells and Och Aye the dopey Jock. After losing every single argument to the superior intellect of the Mighty Saints fans they have quietly disappeared to get some psychiatric treatment and some lessons on repairing their self esteem. Don't worry though they will probably be back as soon as we lose two games in a row or sell one of our players. With a bit of luck they will also be supporting a Conference side by then.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: One thing about archiving is finding blasts from the past, names that have disappeared, no doubt replaced with new ones, where are MGRA, GHK, PTID1898, Thomas Upton, Bpl333 e.t.c. and reading some of their posts, boy did they get things wrong![/p][/quote]Not forgetting 5 braincells and Och Aye the dopey Jock. After losing every single argument to the superior intellect of the Mighty Saints fans they have quietly disappeared to get some psychiatric treatment and some lessons on repairing their self esteem. Don't worry though they will probably be back as soon as we lose two games in a row or sell one of our players. With a bit of luck they will also be supporting a Conference side by then. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

11:15am Sat 22 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
The Straight Shooter wrote:
Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?
Yes and Elvis will be taking over the Academy while teaching the players some of his famous moves.
Thank you very much!
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: Well my morning is off to a miserable start. I've just read that Lovren has admirers, namely Man Utd, so it looks likely that both him and Luke could be off this summer. Morgan's making public pleas for any "great clubs" to drop him a line and Spurs are sniffing around Poch. What next, Adam Lallana replacing Lampard at Chelsea?[/p][/quote]Yes and Elvis will be taking over the Academy while teaching the players some of his famous moves.[/p][/quote]Thank you very much! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:55am Sat 22 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
The Straight Shooter wrote:
You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?
I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.
osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name!
I have a bad memory I know, but I cannot recall that sign on name, are you sure that is right? I tried archiving it but came up blank.
osprey kenty was the one who kept calling adkins `tango man/head` and was always going on about how he should spend less time on a sunbed and more coaching the team. hope that helps.
Now I remember him, I have just been browsing that Nigel Adkins sacking thread, one of the all time greats in my mind, glad I didn't make a fool of myself on it, but if you have an afternoon to spare it's well worth looking at it again
http://www.dailyecho

.co.uk/sport/1017147

9.Saints_sack_Adkins

_and_appoint_Pochett

ino/
I have also found the Pardew sacking thread, that has some wonderful bloopers in it too:-
http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/8360649.
Pardew_sacked_by_Sai
nts/
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Straight Shooter[/bold] wrote: You guys know me, ever the optimist, but doesn't this strike you as a classic case of asset stripping?[/p][/quote]I don't know you, and quite frankly it is the last thing in my list of things to do.[/p][/quote]osprey you do know him, he is our old friend ken 141 whos come back with yet another login name![/p][/quote]I have a bad memory I know, but I cannot recall that sign on name, are you sure that is right? I tried archiving it but came up blank.[/p][/quote]osprey kenty was the one who kept calling adkins `tango man/head` and was always going on about how he should spend less time on a sunbed and more coaching the team. hope that helps.[/p][/quote]Now I remember him, I have just been browsing that Nigel Adkins sacking thread, one of the all time greats in my mind, glad I didn't make a fool of myself on it, but if you have an afternoon to spare it's well worth looking at it again http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/sport/1017147 9.Saints_sack_Adkins _and_appoint_Pochett ino/[/p][/quote]I have also found the Pardew sacking thread, that has some wonderful bloopers in it too:- http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/8360649. Pardew_sacked_by_Sai nts/ OSPREYSAINT
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