Southampton are targeting the Europa League says Mauricio Pochettino

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Mauricio Pochettino has insisted that Saints’ season is not all but over and has targeted Europa League qualification.

The Saints boss launched an impassioned defence of his team selection for the FA Cup tie at Sunderland which the club lost 1-0 with six changes to the side which had beaten Hull earlier in the week.

Pochettino was clearly frustrated by the accusation that he showed the competition a lack of respect, and also wanted to make it clear that Saints’ season is very much alive.

Currently only the top five positions in the Premier League earn the right to play European football next season, but that could go down to seventh depending on what happens in the domestic cup competitions.

Saints, who face West Ham at Upton Park tomorrow looking to make it three away league wins in a row, will be gunning for those slots.

“In the end anything I say is going to be used against the manager,” smiled Pochettino when asked how high the club could finish this season.

“When I said in my personal opinion that I don’t care for the Europa League that was completely taken out of context and saying that Southampton doesn’t want to play in the Europa League. No. I am very happy if Southampton get into the Europa League.

“It’s a goal we are looking towards achieving, but my ambition is to be playing in the Champions League because I like better the Champions League to the Europa League.

“We want to win at West Ham to be as high as possible in the table.

“After winning two consecutive games away, and it had been about 13 years I think since that happened, it is a great incentive for these players to get that third consecutive win.

“I don’t know when Southampton won three games away and that’s a great incentive for this team.”

Pochettino launched a steadfast defence of his team selection for the game at Sunderland.

“What I want to make clear is that I don’t agree that everything is decided in the league. I think that is completely false,” he reasoned.

“I think this team can keep climbing positions in the league.

“We fully respect the FA Cup, we fully respect that competition, and we were very much keen on getting through that tie and into the next round.

“In the game against Arsenal I put Sam Gallagher as a starting player and nobody said I had no respect for the Premier League so that shows I am committed to bringing in the young players and giving them chances.

“As for the game against Sunderland we chose what we thought was the best team for that game because we see it as a very important game and a very important competition.

“We played with players that have shown in the past that they can be in the starting XI. They have shown in the past they have the capacity to be in the starting XI in any single game that we play. They are players that have the skill to be playing for Southampton.

“For example in that game against Sunderland we used James Ward-Prowse who was said in the past to be the next Beckham. Nathaniel Clyne was considered to perhaps be going to the World Cup.

“I think the criticisms that came after the game at Sunderland were out of context.

“We have shown since we’ve come here to Southampton that we fully respect the history of English football, we fully respect the history of the FA Cup and I think Southampton as a whole is an example of a club that believes in young English players, young English talent, and we give them the chances.

“That’s why I found it a bit strange with all the criticism that came after the FA Cup.”

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6:42am Fri 21 Feb 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

Lets just get 3 points and see where we end up...I gave played on west hams pitch and it's a hard pitch to play on, would love to see fat Sams chewing gum face smile wiped off his face... Going to be tough game...
Lets just get 3 points and see where we end up...I gave played on west hams pitch and it's a hard pitch to play on, would love to see fat Sams chewing gum face smile wiped off his face... Going to be tough game... Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: 10

6:56am Fri 21 Feb 14

White and red till dead says...

He seems to be changing his tune re Europa league. We could have got there with a cup run...
He seems to be changing his tune re Europa league. We could have got there with a cup run... White and red till dead
  • Score: 15

7:31am Fri 21 Feb 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

The easiest way to qualify for the Europa league was via the FA Cup!
The easiest way to qualify for the Europa league was via the FA Cup! worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 24

7:33am Fri 21 Feb 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Sorry white and red, that's what you said!
Sorry white and red, that's what you said! worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 4

7:55am Fri 21 Feb 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

FA Cup is done and dusted for this season. move on.

The only thing left to play for is a better league position so I am hoping that the lads get out on that pitch and give Fat Sam and his hoof ball cloggers a right good stuffing.
FA Cup is done and dusted for this season. move on. The only thing left to play for is a better league position so I am hoping that the lads get out on that pitch and give Fat Sam and his hoof ball cloggers a right good stuffing. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 21

8:28am Fri 21 Feb 14

Buddy SFC says...

His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 50

8:32am Fri 21 Feb 14

BracknellSaint says...

This is one I want to win more than usual..cannot stand Fat Sam, nor the filth his teams try to call football..
Really hope we truly put them to the sword...4-1 or something like that would be awesome...
This is one I want to win more than usual..cannot stand Fat Sam, nor the filth his teams try to call football.. Really hope we truly put them to the sword...4-1 or something like that would be awesome... BracknellSaint
  • Score: 29

8:53am Fri 21 Feb 14

Sheffieldsaint says...

I for one was glad we were knocked out of the F.A.Cup. My son is getting married on cup final weekend and I am having enough trouble with his future in-laws as it is!
I for one was glad we were knocked out of the F.A.Cup. My son is getting married on cup final weekend and I am having enough trouble with his future in-laws as it is! Sheffieldsaint
  • Score: 14

9:09am Fri 21 Feb 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
FA Cup is done and dusted for this season. move on.

The only thing left to play for is a better league position so I am hoping that the lads get out on that pitch and give Fat Sam and his hoof ball cloggers a right good stuffing.
This concept of move on, there's always next year etc fails to take into account that every now and then the draw just opens up for you. It did in 2003 and it did so again this year. We may well take it seriously next season but we may well get Chelsea away too.
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: FA Cup is done and dusted for this season. move on. The only thing left to play for is a better league position so I am hoping that the lads get out on that pitch and give Fat Sam and his hoof ball cloggers a right good stuffing.[/p][/quote]This concept of move on, there's always next year etc fails to take into account that every now and then the draw just opens up for you. It did in 2003 and it did so again this year. We may well take it seriously next season but we may well get Chelsea away too. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 17

9:11am Fri 21 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection.
In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about.
The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.
Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection. In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about. The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 12

10:01am Fri 21 Feb 14

Beer Monster says...

Sheffieldsaint wrote:
I for one was glad we were knocked out of the F.A.Cup. My son is getting married on cup final weekend and I am having enough trouble with his future in-laws as it is!
I can relate with that... bloody in-laws getting in the way of all things football and sport. Had to explain to them (and the rest of the surrogate family) over the evening meal on sunday why last weekends trip to Sunderland was so sh1t, but without using obscenities. It was most difficult.

Dunno if it was an omen that we're not in the cup, but final day is 17th May - exactly 11 years since we were at the Millenium Stadium...
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldsaint[/bold] wrote: I for one was glad we were knocked out of the F.A.Cup. My son is getting married on cup final weekend and I am having enough trouble with his future in-laws as it is![/p][/quote]I can relate with that... bloody in-laws getting in the way of all things football and sport. Had to explain to them (and the rest of the surrogate family) over the evening meal on sunday why last weekends trip to Sunderland was so sh1t, but without using obscenities. It was most difficult. Dunno if it was an omen that we're not in the cup, but final day is 17th May - exactly 11 years since we were at the Millenium Stadium... Beer Monster
  • Score: 6

10:50am Fri 21 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Sheffieldsaint wrote:
I for one was glad we were knocked out of the F.A.Cup. My son is getting married on cup final weekend and I am having enough trouble with his future in-laws as it is!
Ha! So, it's all your fault then?

As long as they're not skunts, it'll all work out in the end.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldsaint[/bold] wrote: I for one was glad we were knocked out of the F.A.Cup. My son is getting married on cup final weekend and I am having enough trouble with his future in-laws as it is![/p][/quote]Ha! So, it's all your fault then? As long as they're not skunts, it'll all work out in the end. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

11:06am Fri 21 Feb 14

george chivers says...

I find this very odd. What is the truth? We may never know. Unless we get into a position to qualify for The Europa Cup, and then Poch pick's an understrength team. We shall see.

Lets stuff West Ham and Fat Sam on Saturday.

Come on you reds. STID
I find this very odd. What is the truth? We may never know. Unless we get into a position to qualify for The Europa Cup, and then Poch pick's an understrength team. We shall see. Lets stuff West Ham and Fat Sam on Saturday. Come on you reds. STID george chivers
  • Score: 8

11:17am Fri 21 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A SQUAD to tackle Europa ...otherwise we would have no chance in the Champions League.

IF THE TRUTH be told - we don't seem to have the depth of squad to satisfactorily progress in the Cups - although a few additions would sort the situation.

MORE INVESTMENT IS NEEDED IN THE SUMMER.

PALACE AWAY TICKETS ARE SELLING FAST.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
WET SPAM -YOU CAN STICK YOUR BUBBLES UP YOUR A*SE.

WE GO FOR THE WIN. COYR
WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A SQUAD to tackle Europa ...otherwise we would have no chance in the Champions League. IF THE TRUTH be told - we don't seem to have the depth of squad to satisfactorily progress in the Cups - although a few additions would sort the situation. MORE INVESTMENT IS NEEDED IN THE SUMMER. PALACE AWAY TICKETS ARE SELLING FAST. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WET SPAM -YOU CAN STICK YOUR BUBBLES UP YOUR A*SE. WE GO FOR THE WIN. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 29

11:33am Fri 21 Feb 14

Saint. says...

It seems I was not talking drivel after all, as some implied recently!

I would also say, that MP has been in the game long enough to truly understand the Saints fans frustrations of exiting the FA cup. I would bet his frustrations is directed more at you DE for trying to stir things up!

The best bit many are missing about this interview is how MP talks of the near future success he wants for Saints and to take Saints into the champion league and to establish Saints in the top teams of the prem!

Now DE that's your real story!!
It seems I was not talking drivel after all, as some implied recently! I would also say, that MP has been in the game long enough to truly understand the Saints fans frustrations of exiting the FA cup. I would bet his frustrations is directed more at you DE for trying to stir things up! The best bit many are missing about this interview is how MP talks of the near future success he wants for Saints and to take Saints into the champion league and to establish Saints in the top teams of the prem! Now DE that's your real story!! Saint.
  • Score: 15

11:53am Fri 21 Feb 14

right back in the bar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Stroppy_gramps wrote:
FA Cup is done and dusted for this season. move on.

The only thing left to play for is a better league position so I am hoping that the lads get out on that pitch and give Fat Sam and his hoof ball cloggers a right good stuffing.
This concept of move on, there's always next year etc fails to take into account that every now and then the draw just opens up for you. It did in 2003 and it did so again this year. We may well take it seriously next season but we may well get Chelsea away too.
I can only think from reading this that he is aiming for a 6th place finish. Just my own point of view but I could not care less about the difference between 8th and 6th - both represent massive progress - but a trophy would have been better. Tomorrow is a big game in a lot of ways: the team selection, reaction from the players whether MP will try and tough it out with VW in the team or out play them with JC pulling the strings.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: FA Cup is done and dusted for this season. move on. The only thing left to play for is a better league position so I am hoping that the lads get out on that pitch and give Fat Sam and his hoof ball cloggers a right good stuffing.[/p][/quote]This concept of move on, there's always next year etc fails to take into account that every now and then the draw just opens up for you. It did in 2003 and it did so again this year. We may well take it seriously next season but we may well get Chelsea away too.[/p][/quote]I can only think from reading this that he is aiming for a 6th place finish. Just my own point of view but I could not care less about the difference between 8th and 6th - both represent massive progress - but a trophy would have been better. Tomorrow is a big game in a lot of ways: the team selection, reaction from the players whether MP will try and tough it out with VW in the team or out play them with JC pulling the strings. right back in the bar
  • Score: 6

12:00pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection.
In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about.
The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.
Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel.

I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection. In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about. The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.[/p][/quote]Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel. I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 9

12:04pm Fri 21 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

TRAIN-HOLE IN THE WALL-CONCOURSE AT SPAM-AWAY WIN.

RED ARMY 2014.
UP HE PREMIER LEAGUE WE GO.
TRAIN-HOLE IN THE WALL-CONCOURSE AT SPAM-AWAY WIN. RED ARMY 2014. UP HE PREMIER LEAGUE WE GO. REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 13

12:13pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection.
In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about.
The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.
Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel.

I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.
100% agree, Seed.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection. In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about. The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.[/p][/quote]Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel. I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.[/p][/quote]100% agree, Seed. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

12:26pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Golden_Salamander says...

I think getting into the Europa Cup or not is the least of Saints problems for next season. With his being a World Cup year players who have played in it usually start training 2 or 3 weeks behind everyone else and are not at the required fitness levels for a number of weeks into next season.

Count the 1st team players that could be involved in the WC this summer (Adam, Rickie, Luke, Jayrod, Gaston, Maya. Dejan, Jose, Morgan etc) and last week proved that we do not have the biggest squad.

Saints will need to start planning soon, do we :-
1/ Change the current transfer policy of buying 2-3 young up and coming playing (who may also be involved in the wc) and try to get in some older (last pay day) 30+ players to cover / improve the depth of the squad ?

2/ Rely on the likes of Hoover, Guly, etc (like last week) to start next season ?

3/ Try out the kids like Reed, Gallagher and other Development Squad members over the last 12 games to see if they can be fast tracked into the 1st team. ?

I also found the criticism by some fans in the last week as WAY OVER THE TOP, there is more important things to be planning for.
(IMO The FA Cup is NOT the competition it was when we won it in the 70's, most sides these days ONLY FIELD SQUAD PLAYERS . Unless the FA allocate a Champion League place to the winners it will continue to decline and only be important to LOWER league supporters just the same way that the Premier League South (sorry Southern League) used to be important around 1900 when we won it 6 times in 8 seasons but soon fell into decline).
I think getting into the Europa Cup or not is the least of Saints problems for next season. With his being a World Cup year players who have played in it usually start training 2 or 3 weeks behind everyone else and are not at the required fitness levels for a number of weeks into next season. Count the 1st team players that could be involved in the WC this summer (Adam, Rickie, Luke, Jayrod, Gaston, Maya. Dejan, Jose, Morgan etc) and last week proved that we do not have the biggest squad. Saints will need to start planning soon, do we :- 1/ Change the current transfer policy of buying 2-3 young up and coming playing (who may also be involved in the wc) and try to get in some older (last pay day) 30+ players to cover / improve the depth of the squad ? 2/ Rely on the likes of Hoover, Guly, etc (like last week) to start next season ? 3/ Try out the kids like Reed, Gallagher and other Development Squad members over the last 12 games to see if they can be fast tracked into the 1st team. ? I also found the criticism by some fans in the last week as WAY OVER THE TOP, there is more important things to be planning for. (IMO The FA Cup is NOT the competition it was when we won it in the 70's, most sides these days ONLY FIELD SQUAD PLAYERS . Unless the FA allocate a Champion League place to the winners it will continue to decline and only be important to LOWER league supporters just the same way that the Premier League South (sorry Southern League) used to be important around 1900 when we won it 6 times in 8 seasons but soon fell into decline). Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 1

12:30pm Fri 21 Feb 14

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE says...

This guys true colours showed when he put out our weakest team against Sunderland, we could of won that game in 60min with our best squad, which he could of played I don’t fall for the ‘We played our best team at the time what utter rubbish’ He made it clear that Europa is a rubbish cup, now he’s back tracking, I can see why he was sacked in the Spanish league, he started well then got disillusioned.
Sorry yes we have had a good season so far and I actually agree champion league or nothing, besides we haven’t the depth to cope with Europe any one can see by our performances when our first squad is injured.
We need a bigger more competitive squad, our youth policy is great but it isn’t going to win us any silverware or league glory if we just end up selling them on after a few seasons with us if we can’t keep the best (Shaw & Lallana to name a few).

FA cup has come and gone granted but don’t care what any one else says you messed that one up MP and you know it !!! MUPPET
This guys true colours showed when he put out our weakest team against Sunderland, we could of won that game in 60min with our best squad, which he could of played I don’t fall for the ‘We played our best team at the time what utter rubbish’ He made it clear that Europa is a rubbish cup, now he’s back tracking, I can see why he was sacked in the Spanish league, he started well then got disillusioned. Sorry yes we have had a good season so far and I actually agree champion league or nothing, besides we haven’t the depth to cope with Europe any one can see by our performances when our first squad is injured. We need a bigger more competitive squad, our youth policy is great but it isn’t going to win us any silverware or league glory if we just end up selling them on after a few seasons with us if we can’t keep the best (Shaw & Lallana to name a few). FA cup has come and gone granted but don’t care what any one else says you messed that one up MP and you know it !!! MUPPET RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE
  • Score: -25

12:36pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Confucious says...

Not so sure about this. Flicking through my history book, Europa seems to have been full of squabbling tribes, scarred by hundreds of years of wars, migrations, crusades, plagues, pillage, partitions, vendettas, invasions, regicides, genocides and untrustworthy swines switching sides. There are French people in it as well.
Not so sure about this. Flicking through my history book, Europa seems to have been full of squabbling tribes, scarred by hundreds of years of wars, migrations, crusades, plagues, pillage, partitions, vendettas, invasions, regicides, genocides and untrustworthy swines switching sides. There are French people in it as well. Confucious
  • Score: 10

12:49pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Mush On The Beach says...

george chivers wrote:
I find this very odd. What is the truth? We may never know. Unless we get into a position to qualify for The Europa Cup, and then Poch pick's an understrength team. We shall see.

Lets stuff West Ham and Fat Sam on Saturday.

Come on you reds. STID
I believe in the truth and it’s out there, you just need to know where to look Agent George.
Football every Thursday and Sunday rather than Saturdays is hard to get excited about.
The Europa, I want to believe ..... I’m just struggling to after seeing Newcastle and Swansea’s fall out in the prem the seasons after.

Time to help send Big Sam to his P45 this weekend, that would be spooky.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I find this very odd. What is the truth? We may never know. Unless we get into a position to qualify for The Europa Cup, and then Poch pick's an understrength team. We shall see. Lets stuff West Ham and Fat Sam on Saturday. Come on you reds. STID[/p][/quote]I believe in the truth and it’s out there, you just need to know where to look Agent George. Football every Thursday and Sunday rather than Saturdays is hard to get excited about. The Europa, I want to believe ..... I’m just struggling to after seeing Newcastle and Swansea’s fall out in the prem the seasons after. Time to help send Big Sam to his P45 this weekend, that would be spooky. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 4

12:50pm Fri 21 Feb 14

WobblyCat says...

george chivers wrote:
I find this very odd. What is the truth? We may never know. Unless we get into a position to qualify for The Europa Cup, and then Poch pick's an understrength team. We shall see.

Lets stuff West Ham and Fat Sam on Saturday.

Come on you reds. STID
I wasn't happy with the team for the FA cup game though I would understand team tinkering in the Europa cup. How many extra games would we have to play even if we went out early? It seems to be a bit of a poison chalice to domestic league form, would have preferred a Wembley run.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I find this very odd. What is the truth? We may never know. Unless we get into a position to qualify for The Europa Cup, and then Poch pick's an understrength team. We shall see. Lets stuff West Ham and Fat Sam on Saturday. Come on you reds. STID[/p][/quote]I wasn't happy with the team for the FA cup game though I would understand team tinkering in the Europa cup. How many extra games would we have to play even if we went out early? It seems to be a bit of a poison chalice to domestic league form, would have preferred a Wembley run. WobblyCat
  • Score: 5

12:51pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SouthLondonSaint says...

Anyone know any good pubs up West Ham? Where we drinking boys and girls? I got turned away from 3 pubs before the fulham game because they were full??? Didn't know a pub could become full, surely you just drink in the street :).

If like to see Gallagher get a run out tomorrow.

Up The Saints!
Anyone know any good pubs up West Ham? Where we drinking boys and girls? I got turned away from 3 pubs before the fulham game because they were full??? Didn't know a pub could become full, surely you just drink in the street :). If like to see Gallagher get a run out tomorrow. Up The Saints! SouthLondonSaint
  • Score: 7

12:59pm Fri 21 Feb 14

El Santo says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
I don't think he disrespected the FA cup. I just disagree with the strategy. I think that our season in the PL is pretty much done. No risk of relegation, but very small chance of a Europe qualification. A very good season, if you think of it to be in this position so early on.
BUT, I think that, given our current comfortable situation, it would have been wise to try really hard and risk for the FA Cup, not just to qualify for the EL, but to win a piece of silverware! We have proven that we can beat pretty much anyone in the PL, we could have won this...
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]I don't think he disrespected the FA cup. I just disagree with the strategy. I think that our season in the PL is pretty much done. No risk of relegation, but very small chance of a Europe qualification. A very good season, if you think of it to be in this position so early on. BUT, I think that, given our current comfortable situation, it would have been wise to try really hard and risk for the FA Cup, not just to qualify for the EL, but to win a piece of silverware! We have proven that we can beat pretty much anyone in the PL, we could have won this... El Santo
  • Score: 10

1:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

El Santo says...

Confucious wrote:
Not so sure about this. Flicking through my history book, Europa seems to have been full of squabbling tribes, scarred by hundreds of years of wars, migrations, crusades, plagues, pillage, partitions, vendettas, invasions, regicides, genocides and untrustworthy swines switching sides. There are French people in it as well.
...and English people, last time I checked.. ;)
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Not so sure about this. Flicking through my history book, Europa seems to have been full of squabbling tribes, scarred by hundreds of years of wars, migrations, crusades, plagues, pillage, partitions, vendettas, invasions, regicides, genocides and untrustworthy swines switching sides. There are French people in it as well.[/p][/quote]...and English people, last time I checked.. ;) El Santo
  • Score: 2

1:08pm Fri 21 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I think getting into the Europa Cup or not is the least of Saints problems for next season. With his being a World Cup year players who have played in it usually start training 2 or 3 weeks behind everyone else and are not at the required fitness levels for a number of weeks into next season.

Count the 1st team players that could be involved in the WC this summer (Adam, Rickie, Luke, Jayrod, Gaston, Maya. Dejan, Jose, Morgan etc) and last week proved that we do not have the biggest squad.

Saints will need to start planning soon, do we :-
1/ Change the current transfer policy of buying 2-3 young up and coming playing (who may also be involved in the wc) and try to get in some older (last pay day) 30+ players to cover / improve the depth of the squad ?

2/ Rely on the likes of Hoover, Guly, etc (like last week) to start next season ?

3/ Try out the kids like Reed, Gallagher and other Development Squad members over the last 12 games to see if they can be fast tracked into the 1st team. ?

I also found the criticism by some fans in the last week as WAY OVER THE TOP, there is more important things to be planning for.
(IMO The FA Cup is NOT the competition it was when we won it in the 70's, most sides these days ONLY FIELD SQUAD PLAYERS . Unless the FA allocate a Champion League place to the winners it will continue to decline and only be important to LOWER league supporters just the same way that the Premier League South (sorry Southern League) used to be important around 1900 when we won it 6 times in 8 seasons but soon fell into decline).
good points about the world cup and players coming back late for training, however.
I don't think many of our squad will progress far enough in the w/c for it to be a big problem. if they don't et to the semis they will go home and have around 2 weeks off before preseason starts.
I wish all our players well but who can you honestly see many getting as far as the semis? gaston is the most likely in my opinion, and he wont be on the pitch too often.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I think getting into the Europa Cup or not is the least of Saints problems for next season. With his being a World Cup year players who have played in it usually start training 2 or 3 weeks behind everyone else and are not at the required fitness levels for a number of weeks into next season. Count the 1st team players that could be involved in the WC this summer (Adam, Rickie, Luke, Jayrod, Gaston, Maya. Dejan, Jose, Morgan etc) and last week proved that we do not have the biggest squad. Saints will need to start planning soon, do we :- 1/ Change the current transfer policy of buying 2-3 young up and coming playing (who may also be involved in the wc) and try to get in some older (last pay day) 30+ players to cover / improve the depth of the squad ? 2/ Rely on the likes of Hoover, Guly, etc (like last week) to start next season ? 3/ Try out the kids like Reed, Gallagher and other Development Squad members over the last 12 games to see if they can be fast tracked into the 1st team. ? I also found the criticism by some fans in the last week as WAY OVER THE TOP, there is more important things to be planning for. (IMO The FA Cup is NOT the competition it was when we won it in the 70's, most sides these days ONLY FIELD SQUAD PLAYERS . Unless the FA allocate a Champion League place to the winners it will continue to decline and only be important to LOWER league supporters just the same way that the Premier League South (sorry Southern League) used to be important around 1900 when we won it 6 times in 8 seasons but soon fell into decline).[/p][/quote]good points about the world cup and players coming back late for training, however. I don't think many of our squad will progress far enough in the w/c for it to be a big problem. if they don't et to the semis they will go home and have around 2 weeks off before preseason starts. I wish all our players well but who can you honestly see many getting as far as the semis? gaston is the most likely in my opinion, and he wont be on the pitch too often. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 5

1:10pm Fri 21 Feb 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

SouthLondonSaint wrote:
Anyone know any good pubs up West Ham? Where we drinking boys and girls? I got turned away from 3 pubs before the fulham game because they were full??? Didn't know a pub could become full, surely you just drink in the street :).

If like to see Gallagher get a run out tomorrow.

Up The Saints!
give the boleyn a miss!
full of neanderthals
[quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: Anyone know any good pubs up West Ham? Where we drinking boys and girls? I got turned away from 3 pubs before the fulham game because they were full??? Didn't know a pub could become full, surely you just drink in the street :). If like to see Gallagher get a run out tomorrow. Up The Saints![/p][/quote]give the boleyn a miss! full of neanderthals worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 7

1:18pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Again, I have to say it wasn't so much the losing against Sunderland, it was the blarzay interview by Jesus that made me so angry.

But, it is history now and I will continue to send my girlfriend out shopping so I can watch the match in peace and hopefully three nice pints.... sorry points... ok maybe both :-)
Again, I have to say it wasn't so much the losing against Sunderland, it was the blarzay interview by Jesus that made me so angry. But, it is history now and I will continue to send my girlfriend out shopping so I can watch the match in peace and hopefully three nice pints.... sorry points... ok maybe both :-) Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 6

1:29pm Fri 21 Feb 14

lowemustgo says...

El Santo wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
I don't think he disrespected the FA cup. I just disagree with the strategy. I think that our season in the PL is pretty much done. No risk of relegation, but very small chance of a Europe qualification. A very good season, if you think of it to be in this position so early on.
BUT, I think that, given our current comfortable situation, it would have been wise to try really hard and risk for the FA Cup, not just to qualify for the EL, but to win a piece of silverware! We have proven that we can beat pretty much anyone in the PL, we could have won this...
Yes, agree we should have put out our best team against Sunderland who now face Hull or Brighton away - both teams we have beaten at their grounds recently.
Hope. for Jesus sake, the lesson has been learnt by MoPo.
Qualification for Europa via the league is a tall order with a lot more than three games to win.
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]I don't think he disrespected the FA cup. I just disagree with the strategy. I think that our season in the PL is pretty much done. No risk of relegation, but very small chance of a Europe qualification. A very good season, if you think of it to be in this position so early on. BUT, I think that, given our current comfortable situation, it would have been wise to try really hard and risk for the FA Cup, not just to qualify for the EL, but to win a piece of silverware! We have proven that we can beat pretty much anyone in the PL, we could have won this...[/p][/quote]Yes, agree we should have put out our best team against Sunderland who now face Hull or Brighton away - both teams we have beaten at their grounds recently. Hope. for Jesus sake, the lesson has been learnt by MoPo. Qualification for Europa via the league is a tall order with a lot more than three games to win. lowemustgo
  • Score: 6

1:31pm Fri 21 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on.
Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think. hedge end bob
  • Score: -4

1:37pm Fri 21 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

Would be very disappointed if Poochy is not with us next season for i think he is a good manager. Will still renew my season ticket whatever.
STID.
Would be very disappointed if Poochy is not with us next season for i think he is a good manager. Will still renew my season ticket whatever. STID. hedge end bob
  • Score: 9

1:42pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SwedeSaint says...

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE wrote:
This guys true colours showed when he put out our weakest team against Sunderland, we could of won that game in 60min with our best squad, which he could of played I don’t fall for the ‘We played our best team at the time what utter rubbish’ He made it clear that Europa is a rubbish cup, now he’s back tracking, I can see why he was sacked in the Spanish league, he started well then got disillusioned.
Sorry yes we have had a good season so far and I actually agree champion league or nothing, besides we haven’t the depth to cope with Europe any one can see by our performances when our first squad is injured.
We need a bigger more competitive squad, our youth policy is great but it isn’t going to win us any silverware or league glory if we just end up selling them on after a few seasons with us if we can’t keep the best (Shaw & Lallana to name a few).

FA cup has come and gone granted but don’t care what any one else says you messed that one up MP and you know it !!! MUPPET
I think the DE should run one last piece about the FA cup match. That would allow everyone to say a final piece and have done with it, instead of this constant nonsense of second guessing, should've done this, I know best cräp that infects every Saints football thread at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE[/bold] wrote: This guys true colours showed when he put out our weakest team against Sunderland, we could of won that game in 60min with our best squad, which he could of played I don’t fall for the ‘We played our best team at the time what utter rubbish’ He made it clear that Europa is a rubbish cup, now he’s back tracking, I can see why he was sacked in the Spanish league, he started well then got disillusioned. Sorry yes we have had a good season so far and I actually agree champion league or nothing, besides we haven’t the depth to cope with Europe any one can see by our performances when our first squad is injured. We need a bigger more competitive squad, our youth policy is great but it isn’t going to win us any silverware or league glory if we just end up selling them on after a few seasons with us if we can’t keep the best (Shaw & Lallana to name a few). FA cup has come and gone granted but don’t care what any one else says you messed that one up MP and you know it !!! MUPPET[/p][/quote]I think the DE should run one last piece about the FA cup match. That would allow everyone to say a final piece and have done with it, instead of this constant nonsense of second guessing, should've done this, I know best cräp that infects every Saints football thread at the moment. SwedeSaint
  • Score: -9

1:52pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Saintsayer II says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given
His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth? Saintsayer II
  • Score: -15

1:59pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Saintsayer II says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection.
In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about.
The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.
Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel.

I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.
Absolutely spot on
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection. In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about. The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.[/p][/quote]Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel. I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on Saintsayer II
  • Score: -8

2:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SwedeSaint says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given
His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?
Are you serious? Absolutely laughable!
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? Absolutely laughable! SwedeSaint
  • Score: 14

2:13pm Fri 21 Feb 14

warrens 76 says...

Our passing football is at times sublime perhaps as good as any in the top four, our pressing is definately top four however our finishing is woeful…

…indeed most teams in the league do not create our ratio of chances not by a long chalk…..

..virtually everyone though converts a higher percentage than us and by quite a margin, were we to be average on conversion ratio then combined with our pressing and passing and chances created right now, today, this minute we would be third.

What makes this so hard to swallow is that WHU, Sunderland, are exactly the type of teams who can exploit this weakness ….

I just do not see us coming up with the goods tomorrow when for an entire season this type of team if you can call them that have been our nemesis.
Our passing football is at times sublime perhaps as good as any in the top four, our pressing is definately top four however our finishing is woeful… …indeed most teams in the league do not create our ratio of chances not by a long chalk….. ..virtually everyone though converts a higher percentage than us and by quite a margin, were we to be average on conversion ratio then combined with our pressing and passing and chances created right now, today, this minute we would be third. What makes this so hard to swallow is that WHU, Sunderland, are exactly the type of teams who can exploit this weakness …. I just do not see us coming up with the goods tomorrow when for an entire season this type of team if you can call them that have been our nemesis. warrens 76
  • Score: -8

2:14pm Fri 21 Feb 14

mickey01 says...

he will be off in a couple of years anyway when the big clubs come calling or a certain n.c
he will be off in a couple of years anyway when the big clubs come calling or a certain n.c mickey01
  • Score: -16

2:21pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection.
In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about.
The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.
Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel.

I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.
Absolutely spot on
Rotation may be necessary in the modern game,but only because it is a cheap replacement for the reserve league system,which gave all the benefits of rotation,and more.Rotation is just a cheapskate scheme to divert money into corporate pockets.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection. In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about. The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.[/p][/quote]Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel. I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on[/p][/quote]Rotation may be necessary in the modern game,but only because it is a cheap replacement for the reserve league system,which gave all the benefits of rotation,and more.Rotation is just a cheapskate scheme to divert money into corporate pockets. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

2:52pm Fri 21 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
SouthLondonSaint wrote:
Anyone know any good pubs up West Ham? Where we drinking boys and girls? I got turned away from 3 pubs before the fulham game because they were full??? Didn't know a pub could become full, surely you just drink in the street :).

If like to see Gallagher get a run out tomorrow.

Up The Saints!
give the boleyn a miss!
full of neanderthals
Couple of choices :

Straight to the Ground for a couple of tinies before the game

OR

Near the ground - 20 mins away - Denmark Arms/ Millers Well opposite East Ham Town Hall and then into the concourse at the ground.

OR

Hole in the Wall (Waterloo) and then in to the concourse at the ground.

UP THE SAINTS !!!
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: Anyone know any good pubs up West Ham? Where we drinking boys and girls? I got turned away from 3 pubs before the fulham game because they were full??? Didn't know a pub could become full, surely you just drink in the street :). If like to see Gallagher get a run out tomorrow. Up The Saints![/p][/quote]give the boleyn a miss! full of neanderthals[/p][/quote]Couple of choices : Straight to the Ground for a couple of tinies before the game OR Near the ground - 20 mins away - Denmark Arms/ Millers Well opposite East Ham Town Hall and then into the concourse at the ground. OR Hole in the Wall (Waterloo) and then in to the concourse at the ground. UP THE SAINTS !!! REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 14

2:56pm Fri 21 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

hedge end bob wrote:
The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on.
Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
SURELY SEE YOU at Palace Away after getting the Away Win vs the Spammers.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.[/p][/quote]SURELY SEE YOU at Palace Away after getting the Away Win vs the Spammers. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 13

3:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

george chivers says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection.
In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about.
The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.
Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel.

I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.
Absolutely spot on
Rotation may be necessary in the modern game,but only because it is a cheap replacement for the reserve league system,which gave all the benefits of rotation,and more.Rotation is just a cheapskate scheme to divert money into corporate pockets.
I just don't believe Poch picked a team to win the game. I do not believe the club is interested in domestic Cup Competitions. I don't think it has got anything to do with squad rotation at all. It's go to do with trying to qualify for the Champions League (obviously not this season) to the exclusion of everything else because the other competitions don't generate enough revenue but do increase the cost base and put too much pressure on a club with a small squad of top level players. Was Pardew thanked when he won the JPT?

His statement about the Europa Cup is a smokescreen because the club is worried about the take up of tickets for the remaining home games and a possible reduction in season ticket sales next season by older supporters who are annoyed about the team selection and the result of Sunderland game.

Last week's game was a game that neither club wanted to win, although the players who were selected obviously did. We shall see how things pan out for the rest of the season. I suspect we will go flat out to win home games and this week's game at West Ham. But in the away games after that we will be happy with a draw and field some weakened teams as well. And if it comes to the last game of the season and its between and us and Man U to win, to qualify for the Europa League I think Man U will win.

Personally I would like to win every game until the end of season but I don't think the club would. It would mean we would have to increase our spend in the summer beyond the budget limit to enhance the squad for the Europa League to compensate for injuries, suspensions, tiredness and players returning late from Brazil.

COYR STID

Let's thrash West Ham tomorrow. Allardyce, Nolan and Carroll get right up my nose.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: Rotation for the sake of it is never going to be a perfect solution to team selection. In the past,clubs fielded a second team in a reserve league so the whole squad was getting regular competitive football,giving every player an incentive to play his way into the first team,and the possibility of winning something at the same time;which at the end of the day,is what football is really all about. The system worked perfectly for decades,until money reared it's ugly head.[/p][/quote]Rotation has to happen if we are to keep all the players up to speed and on the top of their game and fitness. We saw this season what happened with Cork and Yoshida coming in due to injuries and not being match fit, but they went on to greatly improve and in Corks case excel. I think rotation is an obvious necessity. The number of rotations in one game - cup - is what led to a team not gelling. Had one or two rotations been made for Hull, Sunderland and West Ham those needing a rest would have got it, those needing match time would have got it - but the team would not have been disrupted.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on[/p][/quote]Rotation may be necessary in the modern game,but only because it is a cheap replacement for the reserve league system,which gave all the benefits of rotation,and more.Rotation is just a cheapskate scheme to divert money into corporate pockets.[/p][/quote]I just don't believe Poch picked a team to win the game. I do not believe the club is interested in domestic Cup Competitions. I don't think it has got anything to do with squad rotation at all. It's go to do with trying to qualify for the Champions League (obviously not this season) to the exclusion of everything else because the other competitions don't generate enough revenue but do increase the cost base and put too much pressure on a club with a small squad of top level players. Was Pardew thanked when he won the JPT? His statement about the Europa Cup is a smokescreen because the club is worried about the take up of tickets for the remaining home games and a possible reduction in season ticket sales next season by older supporters who are annoyed about the team selection and the result of Sunderland game. Last week's game was a game that neither club wanted to win, although the players who were selected obviously did. We shall see how things pan out for the rest of the season. I suspect we will go flat out to win home games and this week's game at West Ham. But in the away games after that we will be happy with a draw and field some weakened teams as well. And if it comes to the last game of the season and its between and us and Man U to win, to qualify for the Europa League I think Man U will win. Personally I would like to win every game until the end of season but I don't think the club would. It would mean we would have to increase our spend in the summer beyond the budget limit to enhance the squad for the Europa League to compensate for injuries, suspensions, tiredness and players returning late from Brazil. COYR STID Let's thrash West Ham tomorrow. Allardyce, Nolan and Carroll get right up my nose. george chivers
  • Score: 9

4:34pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SouthLondonSaint says...

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
SouthLondonSaint wrote:
Anyone know any good pubs up West Ham? Where we drinking boys and girls? I got turned away from 3 pubs before the fulham game because they were full??? Didn't know a pub could become full, surely you just drink in the street :).

If like to see Gallagher get a run out tomorrow.

Up The Saints!
give the boleyn a miss!
full of neanderthals
Couple of choices :

Straight to the Ground for a couple of tinies before the game

OR

Near the ground - 20 mins away - Denmark Arms/ Millers Well opposite East Ham Town Hall and then into the concourse at the ground.

OR

Hole in the Wall (Waterloo) and then in to the concourse at the ground.

UP THE SAINTS !!!
Nice one, always good to have a choice.
[quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: Anyone know any good pubs up West Ham? Where we drinking boys and girls? I got turned away from 3 pubs before the fulham game because they were full??? Didn't know a pub could become full, surely you just drink in the street :). If like to see Gallagher get a run out tomorrow. Up The Saints![/p][/quote]give the boleyn a miss! full of neanderthals[/p][/quote]Couple of choices : Straight to the Ground for a couple of tinies before the game OR Near the ground - 20 mins away - Denmark Arms/ Millers Well opposite East Ham Town Hall and then into the concourse at the ground. OR Hole in the Wall (Waterloo) and then in to the concourse at the ground. UP THE SAINTS !!![/p][/quote]Nice one, always good to have a choice. SouthLondonSaint
  • Score: 8

4:48pm Fri 21 Feb 14

st1halo says...

I think some of these comments are a bit harsh on Poch. Yeah last Saturday was very disappointing but, putting things into perspective, it's been a great season so far, the best for many years, our profile as a club and our style of football has risen dramatically. We have outplayed most in this league and are respected on and off the pitch. Poch has been instrumental in that rise to prominence. If his comments about the Europa League are a personal opinion, I respect that! Most would agree it forces inconvenient fixtures, puts pressure on squads and offers little financially, and, let's face it, most regard it as an also-ran competition. From a club point of view, it's still worhwhile in terms of experience and exposure and indicates a 'level acquired' which may attract players.
I can't think of any other manager who would fill Poch's boots so perhaps he should be cut some slack. No-one is perfect, he will learn from the few mistakes he makes.

STID
I think some of these comments are a bit harsh on Poch. Yeah last Saturday was very disappointing but, putting things into perspective, it's been a great season so far, the best for many years, our profile as a club and our style of football has risen dramatically. We have outplayed most in this league and are respected on and off the pitch. Poch has been instrumental in that rise to prominence. If his comments about the Europa League are a personal opinion, I respect that! Most would agree it forces inconvenient fixtures, puts pressure on squads and offers little financially, and, let's face it, most regard it as an also-ran competition. From a club point of view, it's still worhwhile in terms of experience and exposure and indicates a 'level acquired' which may attract players. I can't think of any other manager who would fill Poch's boots so perhaps he should be cut some slack. No-one is perfect, he will learn from the few mistakes he makes. STID st1halo
  • Score: 13

4:54pm Fri 21 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

SwedeSaint wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given
His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?
Are you serious? Absolutely laughable!
Careful swede you might start being called a member of the thread police!

but seriously, why is it that when things get a little bumpy some fans start to have a go at MP because he doesn't speak English? if it is that important to you that you can `understand` the manager then why don't you learn Spanish? I can understand MP because he has an interpreter. the only people who really need to understand MP are the players, and MP talks to them in English so that's sorted.
so lets only appoint managers who speak perfect English in the future.
as for the Europa league, I said a week or so ago that its a rubbish competition with too many games which teams may play well to get through to then be joined by the worst teams from the champions league, and yes teams struggle in the league when they are in it.
It looks like MP feels the same, but as he said “That is my opinion, not the club’s opinion.” so whilst he doesn't like the competition personally that's just a personal opinion and not what the club wants so there is no `back tracking` just a manager voicing his own views.
to say he blew or fluffed an opportunity to get into the Europa league by sending out a team to lose is, in my opinion, very disrespectful of the manager and players and the other teams still in the fa cup. even if the manager showed no interest in the game the players could still have got themselves up for it, blunderland had 1 half chance and scored we missed 3 very good chances, did the players miss on purpose then? also we had already played blunderland twice this season with a `full first team` and didn't beat them, but the team that was picked was stronger than theirs and should have won. and no it wasn't all guly and hoovers fault!
even if we had won that game we would still have 2 games to get to the final, and there are still some very good teams still in the cup, arsenil everton and mancy are still there and we might have got one of those in the next round (would the draw numbers have been the same if we had been in the hat instead of blunderland?). yes we can beat any of those teams but we don't always. also getting further in the cup means that league games have to be moved to midweek causing a backlog of games. its no good saying that you would rather finish 10th and win the cup than 7th and not win it, those aren't the options! we want to finish as highup the league as we can. if we can finish above the likes of everton or spuds or even manure it will be a huge achievement for MP and the players, it will also show potential signings that we can compete in the league and push for a champions league place, that's where the prestige is nowadays.
I hope that MP will stay for a long time and, with KL`s backing, turn us into a regular champions league team. taking manure`s or arsenils place in the process, we could then be linked with their players instead of them being linked with our entire squad.
MP is the best manager we have had in many, many years and I hope he`s here for the long term.
by the way MP wasn't `sacked` from espanyol, his contract was terminated by mutual consent, after having almost his entire first team sold because they were broke. the fact that he kept them up despite that shows his quality as a manger!
[quote][p][bold]SwedeSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? Absolutely laughable![/p][/quote]Careful swede you might start being called a member of the thread police! but seriously, why is it that when things get a little bumpy some fans start to have a go at MP because he doesn't speak English? if it is that important to you that you can `understand` the manager then why don't you learn Spanish? I can understand MP because he has an interpreter. the only people who really need to understand MP are the players, and MP talks to them in English so that's sorted. so lets only appoint managers who speak perfect English in the future. as for the Europa league, I said a week or so ago that its a rubbish competition with too many games which teams may play well to get through to then be joined by the worst teams from the champions league, and yes teams struggle in the league when they are in it. It looks like MP feels the same, but as he said “That is my opinion, not the club’s opinion.” so whilst he doesn't like the competition personally that's just a personal opinion and not what the club wants so there is no `back tracking` just a manager voicing his own views. to say he blew or fluffed an opportunity to get into the Europa league by sending out a team to lose is, in my opinion, very disrespectful of the manager and players and the other teams still in the fa cup. even if the manager showed no interest in the game the players could still have got themselves up for it, blunderland had 1 half chance and scored we missed 3 very good chances, did the players miss on purpose then? also we had already played blunderland twice this season with a `full first team` and didn't beat them, but the team that was picked was stronger than theirs and should have won. and no it wasn't all guly and hoovers fault! even if we had won that game we would still have 2 games to get to the final, and there are still some very good teams still in the cup, arsenil everton and mancy are still there and we might have got one of those in the next round (would the draw numbers have been the same if we had been in the hat instead of blunderland?). yes we can beat any of those teams but we don't always. also getting further in the cup means that league games have to be moved to midweek causing a backlog of games. its no good saying that you would rather finish 10th and win the cup than 7th and not win it, those aren't the options! we want to finish as highup the league as we can. if we can finish above the likes of everton or spuds or even manure it will be a huge achievement for MP and the players, it will also show potential signings that we can compete in the league and push for a champions league place, that's where the prestige is nowadays. I hope that MP will stay for a long time and, with KL`s backing, turn us into a regular champions league team. taking manure`s or arsenils place in the process, we could then be linked with their players instead of them being linked with our entire squad. MP is the best manager we have had in many, many years and I hope he`s here for the long term. by the way MP wasn't `sacked` from espanyol, his contract was terminated by mutual consent, after having almost his entire first team sold because they were broke. the fact that he kept them up despite that shows his quality as a manger! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 9

5:24pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SaintJD says...

Very disappointed with the approach to the FA Cup (note that MP didn't mention Hoover and Kelvin in his list of changes), but if you told me we'd still have him as manager in five years time, regardless of knowing our finishing position or whether we'd won anything, I'd bite your hand off (in a nice way).

You just can't buy the style of football he's brought to the club and that's been shown quite literally by the fact that, when we have tried to spend big money, it's not improved what we've already got - a great unit with young talent playing in a way that doesn't rely too heavily on any one player.

Now, if we can just improve that strength in depth and maybe poach another promising young player or two this summer (rather than getting our own taken), I think we're looking great.

But priority number one has to be to keep MP to the long-term, which is going to be pretty tough given what he's achieved here.

And whatever happens next season - whether we have a terrible start and lie near the bottom of the table, I won't be asking for his head at any time (and you can hold me to that) - I think he's clearly someone for the long term regardless of any dips in form.
Very disappointed with the approach to the FA Cup (note that MP didn't mention Hoover and Kelvin in his list of changes), but if you told me we'd still have him as manager in five years time, regardless of knowing our finishing position or whether we'd won anything, I'd bite your hand off (in a nice way). You just can't buy the style of football he's brought to the club and that's been shown quite literally by the fact that, when we have tried to spend big money, it's not improved what we've already got - a great unit with young talent playing in a way that doesn't rely too heavily on any one player. Now, if we can just improve that strength in depth and maybe poach another promising young player or two this summer (rather than getting our own taken), I think we're looking great. But priority number one has to be to keep MP to the long-term, which is going to be pretty tough given what he's achieved here. And whatever happens next season - whether we have a terrible start and lie near the bottom of the table, I won't be asking for his head at any time (and you can hold me to that) - I think he's clearly someone for the long term regardless of any dips in form. SaintJD
  • Score: 9

5:51pm Fri 21 Feb 14

arfer phesache says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given
His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?
You infer negativity in all your posts and it's always followed up by a positive comment to another post almost immediately to try to prove you're Saints fan. You are obviously on a wind up,
but you need to change tactics because it isn't working very well is it.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?[/p][/quote]You infer negativity in all your posts and it's always followed up by a positive comment to another post almost immediately to try to prove you're Saints fan. You are obviously on a wind up, but you need to change tactics because it isn't working very well is it. arfer phesache
  • Score: 2

6:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

north wales saint 2 says...

Rickies miss near the end of our cup game at Sunderland summed up last weekend.Of all saints players to have a seemingly simple tap in you could not wish for anyone else to be near the goal line.Go back to Feb 1st, Rickies goal at Fulham saints second how many players would have blasted that over.Anyway on to tomorrow a win please and lets get back to playing how we have shown we can this season
Rickies miss near the end of our cup game at Sunderland summed up last weekend.Of all saints players to have a seemingly simple tap in you could not wish for anyone else to be near the goal line.Go back to Feb 1st, Rickies goal at Fulham saints second how many players would have blasted that over.Anyway on to tomorrow a win please and lets get back to playing how we have shown we can this season north wales saint 2
  • Score: 3

6:25pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Reality-man says...

SwedeSaint wrote:
RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE wrote:
This guys true colours showed when he put out our weakest team against Sunderland, we could of won that game in 60min with our best squad, which he could of played I don’t fall for the ‘We played our best team at the time what utter rubbish’ He made it clear that Europa is a rubbish cup, now he’s back tracking, I can see why he was sacked in the Spanish league, he started well then got disillusioned.
Sorry yes we have had a good season so far and I actually agree champion league or nothing, besides we haven’t the depth to cope with Europe any one can see by our performances when our first squad is injured.
We need a bigger more competitive squad, our youth policy is great but it isn’t going to win us any silverware or league glory if we just end up selling them on after a few seasons with us if we can’t keep the best (Shaw & Lallana to name a few).

FA cup has come and gone granted but don’t care what any one else says you messed that one up MP and you know it !!! MUPPET
I think the DE should run one last piece about the FA cup match. That would allow everyone to say a final piece and have done with it, instead of this constant nonsense of second guessing, should've done this, I know best cräp that infects every Saints football thread at the moment.
Yes I agree, run one more story then we can......um.....erm.
......Move on? ;-)
[quote][p][bold]SwedeSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE[/bold] wrote: This guys true colours showed when he put out our weakest team against Sunderland, we could of won that game in 60min with our best squad, which he could of played I don’t fall for the ‘We played our best team at the time what utter rubbish’ He made it clear that Europa is a rubbish cup, now he’s back tracking, I can see why he was sacked in the Spanish league, he started well then got disillusioned. Sorry yes we have had a good season so far and I actually agree champion league or nothing, besides we haven’t the depth to cope with Europe any one can see by our performances when our first squad is injured. We need a bigger more competitive squad, our youth policy is great but it isn’t going to win us any silverware or league glory if we just end up selling them on after a few seasons with us if we can’t keep the best (Shaw & Lallana to name a few). FA cup has come and gone granted but don’t care what any one else says you messed that one up MP and you know it !!! MUPPET[/p][/quote]I think the DE should run one last piece about the FA cup match. That would allow everyone to say a final piece and have done with it, instead of this constant nonsense of second guessing, should've done this, I know best cräp that infects every Saints football thread at the moment.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree, run one more story then we can......um.....erm. ......Move on? ;-) Reality-man
  • Score: 3

6:34pm Fri 21 Feb 14

north wales saint 2 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on.
Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.[/p][/quote]seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office. north wales saint 2
  • Score: 0

6:38pm Fri 21 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

I don't know if anyones been watching the winter Olympics speed skating and the british girl being disqualified, now I don't know much about it but the ref has just made clutterburke seem have decent, and that takes a lot!
I don't know if anyones been watching the winter Olympics speed skating and the british girl being disqualified, now I don't know much about it but the ref has just made clutterburke seem have decent, and that takes a lot! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

7:01pm Fri 21 Feb 14

ctsaint says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given
His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?
My lord this is all a bit dull.......
We lost a game away from home 1-0 ...... We COULD have won it , we didn't
MOPO picked the team , the first picks looked heavy legged (SRL's miss is down to physical and MENTAL tiredness)
MOPO is justified in speaking Spanish as clearly Jesus upset some people......does anyone think he intended to?
Does anyone think that MOPO picked a side to lose and if they do......was Rickies miss intentional? I could, no , would have finished that......

Let's not turn into arrogant, ungrateful , expectant fans because we have had a taste of consistency and style for an oh so brief spell to date......we lost 1 - 0 FFS to a form team, away , with tired legs and some changes designed to keep things fresh . Get over yourselves.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?[/p][/quote]My lord this is all a bit dull....... We lost a game away from home 1-0 ...... We COULD have won it , we didn't MOPO picked the team , the first picks looked heavy legged (SRL's miss is down to physical and MENTAL tiredness) MOPO is justified in speaking Spanish as clearly Jesus upset some people......does anyone think he intended to? Does anyone think that MOPO picked a side to lose and if they do......was Rickies miss intentional? I could, no , would have finished that...... Let's not turn into arrogant, ungrateful , expectant fans because we have had a taste of consistency and style for an oh so brief spell to date......we lost 1 - 0 FFS to a form team, away , with tired legs and some changes designed to keep things fresh . Get over yourselves. ctsaint
  • Score: 11

7:08pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Saints are serious about the Europa League? Yes, that's more like it Mr Poch! I know he fancies the Champions League most, as do we all, but we have got a long long way to go before we are anywhere near that.

We have to learn to walk before we can run and the Europa League is where we'll do it, maybe not next season or even the season after but we will do it and we will learn and grow and we will conquer.
The squad needs major investment, on a level unprecedented in the club's history and/or the youngsters have a lot of learning to do, but Poch saying we will target the Europa League sounds very good to me.

When the Liebherrs bought the club their initial statement was one of long, slow, sustainable growth - Rome wasn't built in a day. Europa League football is an outside bet for next season but it is possible and it's something we really have to go for.

It's a long shot but if Man City win the League Cup Final and then Man City and Arsenal contest the FA Cup Final, a League place as low as 7th will qualify for the Europa League. Given Man Utd's form this season, that is within our grasp and I hope we get there.
COYR - 3 points tomorrow.
Saints are serious about the Europa League? Yes, that's more like it Mr Poch! I know he fancies the Champions League most, as do we all, but we have got a long long way to go before we are anywhere near that. We have to learn to walk before we can run and the Europa League is where we'll do it, maybe not next season or even the season after but we will do it and we will learn and grow and we will conquer. The squad needs major investment, on a level unprecedented in the club's history and/or the youngsters have a lot of learning to do, but Poch saying we will target the Europa League sounds very good to me. When the Liebherrs bought the club their initial statement was one of long, slow, sustainable growth - Rome wasn't built in a day. Europa League football is an outside bet for next season but it is possible and it's something we really have to go for. It's a long shot but if Man City win the League Cup Final and then Man City and Arsenal contest the FA Cup Final, a League place as low as 7th will qualify for the Europa League. Given Man Utd's form this season, that is within our grasp and I hope we get there. COYR - 3 points tomorrow. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 2

7:09pm Fri 21 Feb 14

ctsaint says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
SwedeSaint wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given
His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?
Are you serious? Absolutely laughable!
Careful swede you might start being called a member of the thread police!

but seriously, why is it that when things get a little bumpy some fans start to have a go at MP because he doesn't speak English? if it is that important to you that you can `understand` the manager then why don't you learn Spanish? I can understand MP because he has an interpreter. the only people who really need to understand MP are the players, and MP talks to them in English so that's sorted.
so lets only appoint managers who speak perfect English in the future.
as for the Europa league, I said a week or so ago that its a rubbish competition with too many games which teams may play well to get through to then be joined by the worst teams from the champions league, and yes teams struggle in the league when they are in it.
It looks like MP feels the same, but as he said “That is my opinion, not the club’s opinion.” so whilst he doesn't like the competition personally that's just a personal opinion and not what the club wants so there is no `back tracking` just a manager voicing his own views.
to say he blew or fluffed an opportunity to get into the Europa league by sending out a team to lose is, in my opinion, very disrespectful of the manager and players and the other teams still in the fa cup. even if the manager showed no interest in the game the players could still have got themselves up for it, blunderland had 1 half chance and scored we missed 3 very good chances, did the players miss on purpose then? also we had already played blunderland twice this season with a `full first team` and didn't beat them, but the team that was picked was stronger than theirs and should have won. and no it wasn't all guly and hoovers fault!
even if we had won that game we would still have 2 games to get to the final, and there are still some very good teams still in the cup, arsenil everton and mancy are still there and we might have got one of those in the next round (would the draw numbers have been the same if we had been in the hat instead of blunderland?). yes we can beat any of those teams but we don't always. also getting further in the cup means that league games have to be moved to midweek causing a backlog of games. its no good saying that you would rather finish 10th and win the cup than 7th and not win it, those aren't the options! we want to finish as highup the league as we can. if we can finish above the likes of everton or spuds or even manure it will be a huge achievement for MP and the players, it will also show potential signings that we can compete in the league and push for a champions league place, that's where the prestige is nowadays.
I hope that MP will stay for a long time and, with KL`s backing, turn us into a regular champions league team. taking manure`s or arsenils place in the process, we could then be linked with their players instead of them being linked with our entire squad.
MP is the best manager we have had in many, many years and I hope he`s here for the long term.
by the way MP wasn't `sacked` from espanyol, his contract was terminated by mutual consent, after having almost his entire first team sold because they were broke. the fact that he kept them up despite that shows his quality as a manger!
There's plenty of British managers who don't speak English particularly well ....and it's their mother tongue....there's plenty of them who lack eloquence and come across as proper thickies....be careful what you wish for.......saggy chops, fat Sam, holloway, big fat Ron ......all give the impression they lack intelligence when soaking their mother tongue ......reflected on their work with players and their results, mediocre at best.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SwedeSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? Absolutely laughable![/p][/quote]Careful swede you might start being called a member of the thread police! but seriously, why is it that when things get a little bumpy some fans start to have a go at MP because he doesn't speak English? if it is that important to you that you can `understand` the manager then why don't you learn Spanish? I can understand MP because he has an interpreter. the only people who really need to understand MP are the players, and MP talks to them in English so that's sorted. so lets only appoint managers who speak perfect English in the future. as for the Europa league, I said a week or so ago that its a rubbish competition with too many games which teams may play well to get through to then be joined by the worst teams from the champions league, and yes teams struggle in the league when they are in it. It looks like MP feels the same, but as he said “That is my opinion, not the club’s opinion.” so whilst he doesn't like the competition personally that's just a personal opinion and not what the club wants so there is no `back tracking` just a manager voicing his own views. to say he blew or fluffed an opportunity to get into the Europa league by sending out a team to lose is, in my opinion, very disrespectful of the manager and players and the other teams still in the fa cup. even if the manager showed no interest in the game the players could still have got themselves up for it, blunderland had 1 half chance and scored we missed 3 very good chances, did the players miss on purpose then? also we had already played blunderland twice this season with a `full first team` and didn't beat them, but the team that was picked was stronger than theirs and should have won. and no it wasn't all guly and hoovers fault! even if we had won that game we would still have 2 games to get to the final, and there are still some very good teams still in the cup, arsenil everton and mancy are still there and we might have got one of those in the next round (would the draw numbers have been the same if we had been in the hat instead of blunderland?). yes we can beat any of those teams but we don't always. also getting further in the cup means that league games have to be moved to midweek causing a backlog of games. its no good saying that you would rather finish 10th and win the cup than 7th and not win it, those aren't the options! we want to finish as highup the league as we can. if we can finish above the likes of everton or spuds or even manure it will be a huge achievement for MP and the players, it will also show potential signings that we can compete in the league and push for a champions league place, that's where the prestige is nowadays. I hope that MP will stay for a long time and, with KL`s backing, turn us into a regular champions league team. taking manure`s or arsenils place in the process, we could then be linked with their players instead of them being linked with our entire squad. MP is the best manager we have had in many, many years and I hope he`s here for the long term. by the way MP wasn't `sacked` from espanyol, his contract was terminated by mutual consent, after having almost his entire first team sold because they were broke. the fact that he kept them up despite that shows his quality as a manger![/p][/quote]There's plenty of British managers who don't speak English particularly well ....and it's their mother tongue....there's plenty of them who lack eloquence and come across as proper thickies....be careful what you wish for.......saggy chops, fat Sam, holloway, big fat Ron ......all give the impression they lack intelligence when soaking their mother tongue ......reflected on their work with players and their results, mediocre at best. ctsaint
  • Score: 6

7:53pm Fri 21 Feb 14

montecristosaint says...

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A SQUAD to tackle Europa ...otherwise we would have no chance in the Champions League.

IF THE TRUTH be told - we don't seem to have the depth of squad to satisfactorily progress in the Cups - although a few additions would sort the situation.

MORE INVESTMENT IS NEEDED IN THE SUMMER.

PALACE AWAY TICKETS ARE SELLING FAST.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
WET SPAM -YOU CAN STICK YOUR BUBBLES UP YOUR A*SE.

WE GO FOR THE WIN. COYR
there is a steady stream of youngsters coming through the academy so dont expecrt too many transfers in in the summer, one or maybe two at best!!!
[quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A SQUAD to tackle Europa ...otherwise we would have no chance in the Champions League. IF THE TRUTH be told - we don't seem to have the depth of squad to satisfactorily progress in the Cups - although a few additions would sort the situation. MORE INVESTMENT IS NEEDED IN THE SUMMER. PALACE AWAY TICKETS ARE SELLING FAST. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. WET SPAM -YOU CAN STICK YOUR BUBBLES UP YOUR A*SE. WE GO FOR THE WIN. COYR[/p][/quote]there is a steady stream of youngsters coming through the academy so dont expecrt too many transfers in in the summer, one or maybe two at best!!! montecristosaint
  • Score: 3

7:56pm Fri 21 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.
If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.
[quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.[/p][/quote]seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.[/p][/quote]If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention. hedge end bob
  • Score: 0

7:57pm Fri 21 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

SaintJD wrote:
Very disappointed with the approach to the FA Cup (note that MP didn't mention Hoover and Kelvin in his list of changes), but if you told me we'd still have him as manager in five years time, regardless of knowing our finishing position or whether we'd won anything, I'd bite your hand off (in a nice way). You just can't buy the style of football he's brought to the club and that's been shown quite literally by the fact that, when we have tried to spend big money, it's not improved what we've already got - a great unit with young talent playing in a way that doesn't rely too heavily on any one player. Now, if we can just improve that strength in depth and maybe poach another promising young player or two this summer (rather than getting our own taken), I think we're looking great. But priority number one has to be to keep MP to the long-term, which is going to be pretty tough given what he's achieved here. And whatever happens next season - whether we have a terrible start and lie near the bottom of the table, I won't be asking for his head at any time (and you can hold me to that) - I think he's clearly someone for the long term regardless of any dips in form.
AGREED 100%
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Very disappointed with the approach to the FA Cup (note that MP didn't mention Hoover and Kelvin in his list of changes), but if you told me we'd still have him as manager in five years time, regardless of knowing our finishing position or whether we'd won anything, I'd bite your hand off (in a nice way). You just can't buy the style of football he's brought to the club and that's been shown quite literally by the fact that, when we have tried to spend big money, it's not improved what we've already got - a great unit with young talent playing in a way that doesn't rely too heavily on any one player. Now, if we can just improve that strength in depth and maybe poach another promising young player or two this summer (rather than getting our own taken), I think we're looking great. But priority number one has to be to keep MP to the long-term, which is going to be pretty tough given what he's achieved here. And whatever happens next season - whether we have a terrible start and lie near the bottom of the table, I won't be asking for his head at any time (and you can hold me to that) - I think he's clearly someone for the long term regardless of any dips in form.[/p][/quote]AGREED 100% hedge end bob
  • Score: 3

8:11pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season.

Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.
Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season. Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 10

8:21pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season.

Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.
Agree 100%.

Strange how some people love a good old moan rather than choosing to enjoy our best football for years.

It takes all sorts I guess ..........
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season. Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.[/p][/quote]Agree 100%. Strange how some people love a good old moan rather than choosing to enjoy our best football for years. It takes all sorts I guess .......... Rob The Saint NOT in NZ
  • Score: 11

8:29pm Fri 21 Feb 14

north wales saint 2 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.
If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.
Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.[/p][/quote]seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.[/p][/quote]If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.[/p][/quote]Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early north wales saint 2
  • Score: 0

8:31pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season.

Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.
We were only about four wins short of doing the double under Lawrie Mac,and that was when you had to play the first team in the FA Cup!
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season. Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.[/p][/quote]We were only about four wins short of doing the double under Lawrie Mac,and that was when you had to play the first team in the FA Cup! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

8:59pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season.

Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.
We were only about four wins short of doing the double under Lawrie Mac,and that was when you had to play the first team in the FA Cup!
That's no doubt true, but back then I was more into playmobil and the Beano than football so it was wasted on me!
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season. Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.[/p][/quote]We were only about four wins short of doing the double under Lawrie Mac,and that was when you had to play the first team in the FA Cup![/p][/quote]That's no doubt true, but back then I was more into playmobil and the Beano than football so it was wasted on me! Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 1

9:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season.

Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.
We were only about four wins short of doing the double under Lawrie Mac,and that was when you had to play the first team in the FA Cup!
That's no doubt true, but back then I was more into playmobil and the Beano than football so it was wasted on me!
Ha ha! Fair do's...l was more of an Eagle man myself. ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: Let's get over the FA Cup, shall we? And while we're at it stop peddling the lie we've nothing left to play for. I don't know about you lot but for the last 20 years I'd have given my left ball to finish above United. We can do that this season. Back the team. Back the manager. A decent run now would make this easily the best season I can remember.[/p][/quote]We were only about four wins short of doing the double under Lawrie Mac,and that was when you had to play the first team in the FA Cup![/p][/quote]That's no doubt true, but back then I was more into playmobil and the Beano than football so it was wasted on me![/p][/quote]Ha ha! Fair do's...l was more of an Eagle man myself. ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

11:58pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SwedeSaint says...

Reality-man wrote:
SwedeSaint wrote:
RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE wrote:
This guys true colours showed when he put out our weakest team against Sunderland, we could of won that game in 60min with our best squad, which he could of played I don’t fall for the ‘We played our best team at the time what utter rubbish’ He made it clear that Europa is a rubbish cup, now he’s back tracking, I can see why he was sacked in the Spanish league, he started well then got disillusioned.
Sorry yes we have had a good season so far and I actually agree champion league or nothing, besides we haven’t the depth to cope with Europe any one can see by our performances when our first squad is injured.
We need a bigger more competitive squad, our youth policy is great but it isn’t going to win us any silverware or league glory if we just end up selling them on after a few seasons with us if we can’t keep the best (Shaw & Lallana to name a few).

FA cup has come and gone granted but don’t care what any one else says you messed that one up MP and you know it !!! MUPPET
I think the DE should run one last piece about the FA cup match. That would allow everyone to say a final piece and have done with it, instead of this constant nonsense of second guessing, should've done this, I know best cräp that infects every Saints football thread at the moment.
Yes I agree, run one more story then we can......um.....erm.

......Move on? ;-)
I would completely agree. It is time to move on ;-)
But it really is though isn't it.......?
Here's to a resounding result against possibly the most harmful strategist in the premiership...and hoping beauty, flair and youth win out!
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SwedeSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE[/bold] wrote: This guys true colours showed when he put out our weakest team against Sunderland, we could of won that game in 60min with our best squad, which he could of played I don’t fall for the ‘We played our best team at the time what utter rubbish’ He made it clear that Europa is a rubbish cup, now he’s back tracking, I can see why he was sacked in the Spanish league, he started well then got disillusioned. Sorry yes we have had a good season so far and I actually agree champion league or nothing, besides we haven’t the depth to cope with Europe any one can see by our performances when our first squad is injured. We need a bigger more competitive squad, our youth policy is great but it isn’t going to win us any silverware or league glory if we just end up selling them on after a few seasons with us if we can’t keep the best (Shaw & Lallana to name a few). FA cup has come and gone granted but don’t care what any one else says you messed that one up MP and you know it !!! MUPPET[/p][/quote]I think the DE should run one last piece about the FA cup match. That would allow everyone to say a final piece and have done with it, instead of this constant nonsense of second guessing, should've done this, I know best cräp that infects every Saints football thread at the moment.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree, run one more story then we can......um.....erm. ......Move on? ;-)[/p][/quote]I would completely agree. It is time to move on ;-) But it really is though isn't it.......? Here's to a resounding result against possibly the most harmful strategist in the premiership...and hoping beauty, flair and youth win out! SwedeSaint
  • Score: 1

2:03am Sat 22 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.
If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.
Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early
Never ASSUME, more than often it will make an **** out of U and ME.
I find it hard to recall a PREMIER league game when we have had
K D
................ HOOVER YOSHIDA ...................
in our back five and win the game. They are very good CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS , but players you would find in the bottom clubs of the PREMIERSHIP. With players like these we will not move forward IMHO. And by the way it was after the FA CUP result that i had a drink. Our manager is the best we have had in a long time and i hope he stays longer than recent managers. But on the day i feel he made a mistake with team selection. Looking at the bench that game it was not the strongest team to start the game.Start the game with your strongest, get control of the game and then make changes. Felt he done it **** about face on the day. IMO.
[quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.[/p][/quote]seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.[/p][/quote]If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.[/p][/quote]Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early[/p][/quote]Never ASSUME, more than often it will make an **** out of U and ME. I find it hard to recall a PREMIER league game when we have had K D ................ HOOVER YOSHIDA ................... in our back five and win the game. They are very good CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS , but players you would find in the bottom clubs of the PREMIERSHIP. With players like these we will not move forward IMHO. And by the way it was after the FA CUP result that i had a drink. Our manager is the best we have had in a long time and i hope he stays longer than recent managers. But on the day i feel he made a mistake with team selection. Looking at the bench that game it was not the strongest team to start the game.Start the game with your strongest, get control of the game and then make changes. Felt he done it **** about face on the day. IMO. hedge end bob
  • Score: -1

2:04am Sat 22 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.
If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.
Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early
Never ASSUME, more than often it will make an **** out of U and ME.
I find it hard to recall a PREMIER league game when we have had
K D
................ HOOVER YOSHIDA ...................
in our back five and win the game. They are very good CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS , but players you would find in the bottom clubs of the PREMIERSHIP. With players like these we will not move forward IMHO. And by the way it was after the FA CUP result that i had a drink. Our manager is the best we have had in a long time and i hope he stays longer than recent managers. But on the day i feel he made a mistake with team selection. Looking at the bench that game it was not the strongest team to start the game.Start the game with your strongest, get control of the game and then make changes. Felt he done it **** about face on the day. IMO.
[quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.[/p][/quote]seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.[/p][/quote]If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.[/p][/quote]Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early[/p][/quote]Never ASSUME, more than often it will make an **** out of U and ME. I find it hard to recall a PREMIER league game when we have had K D ................ HOOVER YOSHIDA ................... in our back five and win the game. They are very good CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS , but players you would find in the bottom clubs of the PREMIERSHIP. With players like these we will not move forward IMHO. And by the way it was after the FA CUP result that i had a drink. Our manager is the best we have had in a long time and i hope he stays longer than recent managers. But on the day i feel he made a mistake with team selection. Looking at the bench that game it was not the strongest team to start the game.Start the game with your strongest, get control of the game and then make changes. Felt he done it **** about face on the day. IMO. hedge end bob
  • Score: 0

2:15am Sat 22 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

Not allowed to say **** , arse , azs, bum.
Not allowed to say **** , arse , azs, bum. hedge end bob
  • Score: 0

5:51am Sat 22 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

hedge end bob wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.
If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.
Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early
Never ASSUME, more than often it will make an **** out of U and ME.
I find it hard to recall a PREMIER league game when we have had
K D
................ HOOVER YOSHIDA ...................
in our back five and win the game. They are very good CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS , but players you would find in the bottom clubs of the PREMIERSHIP. With players like these we will not move forward IMHO. And by the way it was after the FA CUP result that i had a drink. Our manager is the best we have had in a long time and i hope he stays longer than recent managers. But on the day i feel he made a mistake with team selection. Looking at the bench that game it was not the strongest team to start the game.Start the game with your strongest, get control of the game and then make changes. Felt he done it **** about face on the day. IMO.
As strange as it may seem, our 'championship' players, Yoshida and Hooiveld, were at the centre of our defence when it was at or close to its tightest last season. Hooiveld had admittedly not had the best of season's this time, but Yoshida has again shown he is a decent Premier League player when given sufficient playing time.

I also find it somewhat saddening that a Saints supporter feels that certain players are 'deadwood' and has no gratitude for their contribution, particularly Kelvin Davis and Hooiveld's, in getting back into the prem.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.[/p][/quote]seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.[/p][/quote]If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.[/p][/quote]Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early[/p][/quote]Never ASSUME, more than often it will make an **** out of U and ME. I find it hard to recall a PREMIER league game when we have had K D ................ HOOVER YOSHIDA ................... in our back five and win the game. They are very good CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS , but players you would find in the bottom clubs of the PREMIERSHIP. With players like these we will not move forward IMHO. And by the way it was after the FA CUP result that i had a drink. Our manager is the best we have had in a long time and i hope he stays longer than recent managers. But on the day i feel he made a mistake with team selection. Looking at the bench that game it was not the strongest team to start the game.Start the game with your strongest, get control of the game and then make changes. Felt he done it **** about face on the day. IMO.[/p][/quote]As strange as it may seem, our 'championship' players, Yoshida and Hooiveld, were at the centre of our defence when it was at or close to its tightest last season. Hooiveld had admittedly not had the best of season's this time, but Yoshida has again shown he is a decent Premier League player when given sufficient playing time. I also find it somewhat saddening that a Saints supporter feels that certain players are 'deadwood' and has no gratitude for their contribution, particularly Kelvin Davis and Hooiveld's, in getting back into the prem. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

7:46am Sat 22 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

WE GO TO WET SPAM FOR THE WIN.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR
WE GO TO WET SPAM FOR THE WIN. WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 3

9:27am Sat 22 Feb 14

saint, says...

ctsaint wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ?

Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that !

A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager !
As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given
His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?
My lord this is all a bit dull.......
We lost a game away from home 1-0 ...... We COULD have won it , we didn't
MOPO picked the team , the first picks looked heavy legged (SRL's miss is down to physical and MENTAL tiredness)
MOPO is justified in speaking Spanish as clearly Jesus upset some people......does anyone think he intended to?
Does anyone think that MOPO picked a side to lose and if they do......was Rickies miss intentional? I could, no , would have finished that......

Let's not turn into arrogant, ungrateful , expectant fans because we have had a taste of consistency and style for an oh so brief spell to date......we lost 1 - 0 FFS to a form team, away , with tired legs and some changes designed to keep things fresh . Get over yourselves.
This is the best post I have read about the cup game. COYR
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: His target was always a top 8 finish ......... a lot of you seem to forget where we were just a few years back .............. Sad to get knocked out by a side that made 9 changes to our 6 , who disrespected the FA Cup ? Let's enjoy the rest of the season in what is one of Saints best ever periods, lets not forget that ! A great manager, managing a stunning group of lads ......... A lot of people will be gutted when MoPo is snapped up by a ''Bigger'' club , so lets get behind him now and make St Marys a noisy fortress for the rest of the season ! and as for Wet Spam and their HOOF ball , that could be us with another manager ![/p][/quote]As far as I'm concerned they can have him now Give me someone I can understand and who is at least consistant in his philosophy. Plenty of top managers out there who would love the facilitys and opportunity he has been given His target (given to him by NC) was to take us to the next level For me that meant Europa league last week he said it wasn't for him. He fluffed an oportunity to get us there with a cup run now he wants to do it via the league So does that now mean the rest of the season will not be about youth?[/p][/quote]My lord this is all a bit dull....... We lost a game away from home 1-0 ...... We COULD have won it , we didn't MOPO picked the team , the first picks looked heavy legged (SRL's miss is down to physical and MENTAL tiredness) MOPO is justified in speaking Spanish as clearly Jesus upset some people......does anyone think he intended to? Does anyone think that MOPO picked a side to lose and if they do......was Rickies miss intentional? I could, no , would have finished that...... Let's not turn into arrogant, ungrateful , expectant fans because we have had a taste of consistency and style for an oh so brief spell to date......we lost 1 - 0 FFS to a form team, away , with tired legs and some changes designed to keep things fresh . Get over yourselves.[/p][/quote]This is the best post I have read about the cup game. COYR saint,
  • Score: 2

10:29am Sat 22 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
north wales saint 2 wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.
seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.
If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.
Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early
Never ASSUME, more than often it will make an **** out of U and ME.
I find it hard to recall a PREMIER league game when we have had
K D
................ HOOVER YOSHIDA ...................
in our back five and win the game. They are very good CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS , but players you would find in the bottom clubs of the PREMIERSHIP. With players like these we will not move forward IMHO. And by the way it was after the FA CUP result that i had a drink. Our manager is the best we have had in a long time and i hope he stays longer than recent managers. But on the day i feel he made a mistake with team selection. Looking at the bench that game it was not the strongest team to start the game.Start the game with your strongest, get control of the game and then make changes. Felt he done it **** about face on the day. IMO.
Bob, hoover had to play because of fonte`s leg injury, he may not be the best defender we have but he did a decent job on the day and sunderland only had one half chance. if we had got rid of him in the summer/winter like many wanted who would have been available for the game?
Yoshi is a very capable prem defender, again he may not be our best but as a back up he`s fine. many of our sofa managers claimed that fonte was only a championship player last season, and coming into this season, how many would say that now? Yoshi struggled in his first game or two because he needed game time, and if he`s not getting any in cup games when will he?
you are of course correct when you say that MP is the best manager we`ve had in a very long time. loved NA to bits and was gutted when he went, but looking at it again I`m very, very happy to have MP as manager.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]north wales saint 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: The FA up is over for our club this year and i think it was a mistake by POOCHY that led to this. It's gone i am as angry as anyonebut, let's move on. Wet Spam tomorrow and that will be my last away game this season. Will not pay good money or waste my time on a coach too watch Championship players wear the shirt. More dead wood to move on in the summer i think.[/p][/quote]seems like you hit the pub too early in the day ,then you post this.Championship players? who are they?I can think of one maybe 2 but without running our team down,it was just a bad day at the office.[/p][/quote]If you can't see the CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS in our squad you must live in the pub you mention.[/p][/quote]Whats the fa up? and if you look what you also typed and the time posted then you will see why I assumed you were in the pub early[/p][/quote]Never ASSUME, more than often it will make an **** out of U and ME. I find it hard to recall a PREMIER league game when we have had K D ................ HOOVER YOSHIDA ................... in our back five and win the game. They are very good CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS , but players you would find in the bottom clubs of the PREMIERSHIP. With players like these we will not move forward IMHO. And by the way it was after the FA CUP result that i had a drink. Our manager is the best we have had in a long time and i hope he stays longer than recent managers. But on the day i feel he made a mistake with team selection. Looking at the bench that game it was not the strongest team to start the game.Start the game with your strongest, get control of the game and then make changes. Felt he done it **** about face on the day. IMO.[/p][/quote]Bob, hoover had to play because of fonte`s leg injury, he may not be the best defender we have but he did a decent job on the day and sunderland only had one half chance. if we had got rid of him in the summer/winter like many wanted who would have been available for the game? Yoshi is a very capable prem defender, again he may not be our best but as a back up he`s fine. many of our sofa managers claimed that fonte was only a championship player last season, and coming into this season, how many would say that now? Yoshi struggled in his first game or two because he needed game time, and if he`s not getting any in cup games when will he? you are of course correct when you say that MP is the best manager we`ve had in a very long time. loved NA to bits and was gutted when he went, but looking at it again I`m very, very happy to have MP as manager. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

1:47pm Fri 28 Feb 14

PompeySaves says...

george chivers wrote:
I find this very odd. What is the truth? We may never know. Unless we get into a position to qualify for The Europa Cup, and then Poch pick's an understrength team. We shall see. Lets stuff West Ham and Fat Sam on Saturday. Come on you reds. STID
AH BIG SAM IS STILL SMILING

COME ON LIVERPOOL

EASY GAME FOR YOU 0-3
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: I find this very odd. What is the truth? We may never know. Unless we get into a position to qualify for The Europa Cup, and then Poch pick's an understrength team. We shall see. Lets stuff West Ham and Fat Sam on Saturday. Come on you reds. STID[/p][/quote]AH BIG SAM IS STILL SMILING COME ON LIVERPOOL EASY GAME FOR YOU 0-3 PompeySaves
  • Score: 0

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