Lallana: We let a great chance slip to make FA Cup quarter-finals

Basingstoke Gazette: Lallana: We let a great chance slip to make FA Cup quarter-finals Lallana: We let a great chance slip to make FA Cup quarter-finals

Adam Lallana admitted that Saints have let a great chance slip through their fingers in this season’s FA Cup.

Mauricio Pochettino’s men missed out on a quarter-final place after being dumped out of the competition on a miserable afternoon in Sunderland.

Craig Gardner’s stunning strike separated the teams, and, although Saints had opportunities to force a draw, they were undoubtedly the poorer team at the Stadium of Light.

Saints captain Lallana said: “We were disappointed. We were far from our best, but we still had a couple of chances at the end to maybe get a replay out of it – myself and Rickie spring to mind.

“We’re disappointed we’re out of the cup. It was a great chance for us to progress. But we just can’t get a win here at the Stadium of Light. They made it difficult for us again.”

With so many of the Premier League’s top clubs having been eliminated from the competition already, a visibly frustrated Lallana agreed that Saints had potentially given up a real opportunity of success.

He said: “Of course. Anyone that knows football, you’ve got to just look at the ties and look at the chance we had – a couple of Championship teams left in it.”

Defeat on Saturday made it three trips to the Stadium of Light this season without victory for Saints.

The club have now failed to win any of their last eight matches against Sunderland, with their most recent success coming back in 2003.

It was certainly noticeable how flat this latest performance was.

After making six changes from the side that won 1-0 at Hull last Tuesday, Pochettino presided over a far-from-dynamic display in the north east.

Lallana said he could not work out exactly why Saints had not been their normal selves.

“Not really. We had a few fresh legs in there as well, but sometimes you just can’t put your finger on it,” he said.

“As I say, we’re really disappointed not to at least get a draw out of it. We weren’t at our best, myself included.”

Lallana said that Saints had “a lot to think about over the weekend”, adding that they then intend to “have another good week’s training and get ready for the weekend game at West Ham.”

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5:05pm Sun 16 Feb 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH
  • Score: 52

5:59pm Sun 16 Feb 14

St.henley says...

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
[quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity St.henley
  • Score: -54

6:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

ere-we-go says...

24 hours on and I'm still utterly deflated by the result and even more so since seeing Sunderland's draw in the next round.

We had a gilt edged opportunity to progress in this competition, safe in the knowledge that our premiership survival was assured.

Why then, when we have suffered defeat to this club already this season, did we choose to play a weakened 11?

It makes no sense.

Time and again the club have stated that no players are for sale.

Well, if I were Jack Cork, Morgan Schniderlin, J Rod, Jose fonte etc, I'd be questioning the ambition of the club and wondering why I was being set aside for fringe players to take their place in such an important fixture.

Everyone, including all the players must know that this is a major **** up by the coaching staff.

Decisions like these can help players, including our best ones, make their minds up about where they want to play their football.

Let's hope yesterday isn't a catalyst for departure.

All the good work that has been done has in my view been badly damaged.

GUTTED.
24 hours on and I'm still utterly deflated by the result and even more so since seeing Sunderland's draw in the next round. We had a gilt edged opportunity to progress in this competition, safe in the knowledge that our premiership survival was assured. Why then, when we have suffered defeat to this club already this season, did we choose to play a weakened 11? It makes no sense. Time and again the club have stated that no players are for sale. Well, if I were Jack Cork, Morgan Schniderlin, J Rod, Jose fonte etc, I'd be questioning the ambition of the club and wondering why I was being set aside for fringe players to take their place in such an important fixture. Everyone, including all the players must know that this is a major **** up by the coaching staff. Decisions like these can help players, including our best ones, make their minds up about where they want to play their football. Let's hope yesterday isn't a catalyst for departure. All the good work that has been done has in my view been badly damaged. GUTTED. ere-we-go
  • Score: 35

6:21pm Sun 16 Feb 14

promised land says...

Pochettino knows his football. What he lacks is understanding the history of English football and what it means to the fans when it comes to the F.A CUP. He's not the first and certainly not the last foreign manager to fully grasp the history of the game here.
Pochettino knows his football. What he lacks is understanding the history of English football and what it means to the fans when it comes to the F.A CUP. He's not the first and certainly not the last foreign manager to fully grasp the history of the game here. promised land
  • Score: 18

6:24pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way Jan28th1984
  • Score: -11

6:26pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Spudsaint says...

How many chances do players get in their career to be an FA Cup winner? Sorry Adam, but I suspect that you might have just missed your best chance. The JPT final was a great day out for the supporters and I'm surprised that players like Adam seem to have forgotten that. All the expressions of 'disappointment' ring hollow to me after yesterday's selection and performance. I for one won't be shelling out again for cup games until the club changes its approach.
How many chances do players get in their career to be an FA Cup winner? Sorry Adam, but I suspect that you might have just missed your best chance. The JPT final was a great day out for the supporters and I'm surprised that players like Adam seem to have forgotten that. All the expressions of 'disappointment' ring hollow to me after yesterday's selection and performance. I for one won't be shelling out again for cup games until the club changes its approach. Spudsaint
  • Score: 24

6:27pm Sun 16 Feb 14

costa gaz says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
I wouldn't bet on it.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]I wouldn't bet on it. costa gaz
  • Score: 11

6:31pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Southampton boy says...

Its for Mo Po to say he is not interested in a cup run but what about us fans who pay to go to these matches and to other gamers we pay good money to see are side do there best we would hope to see are best players out on the patch, this did not happen yesterday even with are goal machine RL having a nightmare of a miss. the Teams need to understand the fans may not pay there wages but we pay a lot to watch them play and we should be considered by the powers to be within the club with out us they would surly fold.
I just hope we can keep are best players for next season?

I am still feeling down after seeing the draw what A BUMMER
Its for Mo Po to say he is not interested in a cup run but what about us fans who pay to go to these matches and to other gamers we pay good money to see are side do there best we would hope to see are best players out on the patch, this did not happen yesterday even with are goal machine RL having a nightmare of a miss. the Teams need to understand the fans may not pay there wages but we pay a lot to watch them play and we should be considered by the powers to be within the club with out us they would surly fold. I just hope we can keep are best players for next season? I am still feeling down after seeing the draw what A BUMMER Southampton boy
  • Score: 17

6:32pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
Indeed...and I hope their fans turn up for it.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]Indeed...and I hope their fans turn up for it. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 8

6:46pm Sun 16 Feb 14

ere-we-go says...

St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Do Prado and sharpness are two words that will never go together!

The guy sadly, just isn't good enough and proved it against Yeovil when he was taken off!

Additionally he hasn't the stomach for a fight and proved that at the back post against Pompey at Fratton Park when we were 1 nil up with a few mins to go!
[quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Do Prado and sharpness are two words that will never go together! The guy sadly, just isn't good enough and proved it against Yeovil when he was taken off! Additionally he hasn't the stomach for a fight and proved that at the back post against Pompey at Fratton Park when we were 1 nil up with a few mins to go! ere-we-go
  • Score: 11

6:52pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Positively4thStreet says...

ere-we-go wrote:
24 hours on and I'm still utterly deflated by the result and even more so since seeing Sunderland's draw in the next round.

We had a gilt edged opportunity to progress in this competition, safe in the knowledge that our premiership survival was assured.

Why then, when we have suffered defeat to this club already this season, did we choose to play a weakened 11?

It makes no sense.

Time and again the club have stated that no players are for sale.

Well, if I were Jack Cork, Morgan Schniderlin, J Rod, Jose fonte etc, I'd be questioning the ambition of the club and wondering why I was being set aside for fringe players to take their place in such an important fixture.

Everyone, including all the players must know that this is a major **** up by the coaching staff.

Decisions like these can help players, including our best ones, make their minds up about where they want to play their football.

Let's hope yesterday isn't a catalyst for departure.

All the good work that has been done has in my view been badly damaged.

GUTTED.
Damage which won't be easily repaired,without a mega effort and positive result verses West Ham.
[quote][p][bold]ere-we-go[/bold] wrote: 24 hours on and I'm still utterly deflated by the result and even more so since seeing Sunderland's draw in the next round. We had a gilt edged opportunity to progress in this competition, safe in the knowledge that our premiership survival was assured. Why then, when we have suffered defeat to this club already this season, did we choose to play a weakened 11? It makes no sense. Time and again the club have stated that no players are for sale. Well, if I were Jack Cork, Morgan Schniderlin, J Rod, Jose fonte etc, I'd be questioning the ambition of the club and wondering why I was being set aside for fringe players to take their place in such an important fixture. Everyone, including all the players must know that this is a major **** up by the coaching staff. Decisions like these can help players, including our best ones, make their minds up about where they want to play their football. Let's hope yesterday isn't a catalyst for departure. All the good work that has been done has in my view been badly damaged. GUTTED.[/p][/quote]Damage which won't be easily repaired,without a mega effort and positive result verses West Ham. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 16

7:26pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
[quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 18

7:35pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

costa gaz wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
I wouldn't bet on it.
Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]I wouldn't bet on it.[/p][/quote]Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 5

7:44pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
I wouldn't bet on it.
Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)
stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]I wouldn't bet on it.[/p][/quote]Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)[/p][/quote]stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

8:03pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
I wouldn't bet on it.
Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)
stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear!
Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words.

Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]I wouldn't bet on it.[/p][/quote]Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)[/p][/quote]stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear![/p][/quote]Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words. Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

8:17pm Sun 16 Feb 14

redsnapper says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost.

Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch.

IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.[/p][/quote]9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost. Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch. IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp. redsnapper
  • Score: 2

8:29pm Sun 16 Feb 14

swesaint says...

promised land wrote:
Pochettino knows his football. What he lacks is understanding the history of English football and what it means to the fans when it comes to the F.A CUP. He's not the first and certainly not the last foreign manager to fully grasp the history of the game here.
I guess that's why there were 16000 watching less than half of what came to the same league fixture
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: Pochettino knows his football. What he lacks is understanding the history of English football and what it means to the fans when it comes to the F.A CUP. He's not the first and certainly not the last foreign manager to fully grasp the history of the game here.[/p][/quote]I guess that's why there were 16000 watching less than half of what came to the same league fixture swesaint
  • Score: 3

8:30pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Costa Baz says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
I wouldn't bet on it.
Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)
stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear!
Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words.

Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.
We are, indeed, two different people, whose views, on most things Saints, are often poles apart.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]I wouldn't bet on it.[/p][/quote]Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)[/p][/quote]stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear![/p][/quote]Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words. Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.[/p][/quote]We are, indeed, two different people, whose views, on most things Saints, are often poles apart. Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

9:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

derek james says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
have to disagree with this remark, hopefully their cup commitments will get them relegated
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]have to disagree with this remark, hopefully their cup commitments will get them relegated derek james
  • Score: 3

9:10pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Saintsayer II says...

redsnapper wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost.

Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch.

IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.
They may have had appearances here and there but they have not played as a unit
I said after the Hull game that Luke and Morgan looked tired and If they had been the only 2 rested in favour of VW and say Clyne at LB then the team would not have have been as dis-jointed as it was
Yes we need to rotate players but not half a team at a time
It was just sensless and shows a lack of interest in our domestic competitions if you don't want to win it don't enter it
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.[/p][/quote]9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost. Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch. IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.[/p][/quote]They may have had appearances here and there but they have not played as a unit I said after the Hull game that Luke and Morgan looked tired and If they had been the only 2 rested in favour of VW and say Clyne at LB then the team would not have have been as dis-jointed as it was Yes we need to rotate players but not half a team at a time It was just sensless and shows a lack of interest in our domestic competitions if you don't want to win it don't enter it Saintsayer II
  • Score: 10

9:14pm Sun 16 Feb 14

costa gaz says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
I wouldn't bet on it.
Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)
stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear!
Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words.

Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.
We are, indeed, two different people, whose views, on most things Saints, are often poles apart.
......And if we all had the same thoughts, how boring and lonely would this place be
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]I wouldn't bet on it.[/p][/quote]Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)[/p][/quote]stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear![/p][/quote]Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words. Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.[/p][/quote]We are, indeed, two different people, whose views, on most things Saints, are often poles apart.[/p][/quote]......And if we all had the same thoughts, how boring and lonely would this place be costa gaz
  • Score: 1

9:14pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

redsnapper wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost.

Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch.

IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.
As usual, Redsnapper, I agree with a lot of what you have written - especially regarding the FA Cup and the FA.

Regarding selection, we all know Sunderland changed lots of players, they had a good excuse being somewhat pre-occupied with relegation and Wembley. Both teams were dire and the only difference was the superb strike that won the match. The thing is, had we prioritised this match and played a majority of the team that looked so comfortable playing together in the win at Hull, we would have given ourselves a far better chance of winning yesterday.

There are, I assume, various reasons why 6 of those who started at Hull didn't start at Sunderland but those responsible for team selection clearly chose to prioritise Hull. Whatever we feel today about yesterday's result, whatever our opinion on the matter, the fact remains that the management chose to prioritise the League above winning the FA Cup. That means, with little danger of relegation or even dropping out of the top 10 and little chance of reaching the Champions League but no desire to be in next season's Europa League, the club's ambition (and it's a decent one) is to finish just behind the final Europa League spot.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.[/p][/quote]9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost. Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch. IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.[/p][/quote]As usual, Redsnapper, I agree with a lot of what you have written - especially regarding the FA Cup and the FA. Regarding selection, we all know Sunderland changed lots of players, they had a good excuse being somewhat pre-occupied with relegation and Wembley. Both teams were dire and the only difference was the superb strike that won the match. The thing is, had we prioritised this match and played a majority of the team that looked so comfortable playing together in the win at Hull, we would have given ourselves a far better chance of winning yesterday. There are, I assume, various reasons why 6 of those who started at Hull didn't start at Sunderland but those responsible for team selection clearly chose to prioritise Hull. Whatever we feel today about yesterday's result, whatever our opinion on the matter, the fact remains that the management chose to prioritise the League above winning the FA Cup. That means, with little danger of relegation or even dropping out of the top 10 and little chance of reaching the Champions League but no desire to be in next season's Europa League, the club's ambition (and it's a decent one) is to finish just behind the final Europa League spot. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

9:18pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
I wouldn't bet on it.
Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)
stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear!
Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words.

Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.
We are, indeed, two different people, whose views, on most things Saints, are often poles apart.
:-)
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]I wouldn't bet on it.[/p][/quote]Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)[/p][/quote]stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear![/p][/quote]Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words. Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.[/p][/quote]We are, indeed, two different people, whose views, on most things Saints, are often poles apart.[/p][/quote]:-) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

9:27pm Sun 16 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

redsnapper wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost.

Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch.

IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.
9out of 11 of the team have already played their part in a very good season ??. Pray tell me when we have won a prem game of football with yesterday back five??. Recently the first 11 have picked the team and won the games, 5 of them were sat on their bums when the match kick off. The management of SFC INSULTED THE FANS WHO MADE THAT VERY LONG JOURNEY TO WATCH PLAYERS OF CHAMPIONSHIP STANDARD. That is what so many fans fined hard to except not the fact we lost to a very ordinarySunderland side. Like someone has already stated,start with your strongest team and get a grip of the game and then make your changes when well in control. I have tickets for WEST HAM but that is the last chance i will be giving the club to pull that stunt again. No more away games for me. And please don't come back with call yourself a supporter because at the moment i feel the club don't give a feck about people like me and that includes the starting 11 yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.[/p][/quote]9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost. Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch. IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.[/p][/quote]9out of 11 of the team have already played their part in a very good season ??. Pray tell me when we have won a prem game of football with yesterday back five??. Recently the first 11 have picked the team and won the games, 5 of them were sat on their bums when the match kick off. The management of SFC INSULTED THE FANS WHO MADE THAT VERY LONG JOURNEY TO WATCH PLAYERS OF CHAMPIONSHIP STANDARD. That is what so many fans fined hard to except not the fact we lost to a very ordinarySunderland side. Like someone has already stated,start with your strongest team and get a grip of the game and then make your changes when well in control. I have tickets for WEST HAM but that is the last chance i will be giving the club to pull that stunt again. No more away games for me. And please don't come back with call yourself a supporter because at the moment i feel the club don't give a feck about people like me and that includes the starting 11 yesterday. hedge end bob
  • Score: 6

9:30pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Thornhill Saint says...

Interesting seeing Jordan Sibley defend the selection today on Twitter

He has advised that neither Rodriguez or Fonte were 100% and that it is unlikely Boruc would have saved that strike, and he had not played in the cup all season. I myself would say JS is right BUT Boruc's distribution would have made one hell of a difference. I hate to say it but Kelvin;s distribution was a serious weakness.

Also it Does not explain Cork or Schniederlan being left out. When asked if fans should be refunded he asked the question "Why?" Errrr probably not the best answer I have heard, and probably will P*ss people off more.

I think Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana gave good honest heartfelt interviews (As did Jesus even if he did not say what we wanted to hear.)

I don't hate MOPO or JESUS or the players but we should have prioritised this match over Hull. We definitly blew a big chance to win some silverware. Even if they won't say it, I hope lessons have been learned.

I am disappointed but things could be a lot worse. Move on to West Ham.
Interesting seeing Jordan Sibley defend the selection today on Twitter He has advised that neither Rodriguez or Fonte were 100% and that it is unlikely Boruc would have saved that strike, and he had not played in the cup all season. I myself would say JS is right BUT Boruc's distribution would have made one hell of a difference. I hate to say it but Kelvin;s distribution was a serious weakness. Also it Does not explain Cork or Schniederlan being left out. When asked if fans should be refunded he asked the question "Why?" Errrr probably not the best answer I have heard, and probably will P*ss people off more. I think Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana gave good honest heartfelt interviews (As did Jesus even if he did not say what we wanted to hear.) I don't hate MOPO or JESUS or the players but we should have prioritised this match over Hull. We definitly blew a big chance to win some silverware. Even if they won't say it, I hope lessons have been learned. I am disappointed but things could be a lot worse. Move on to West Ham. Thornhill Saint
  • Score: 10

9:34pm Sun 16 Feb 14

fritzer says...

You dont really have to tell us that Adam !! and if you cant work out why "Saints were exactly not their selves" I can tell you right now that there are thousands that can.
You dont really have to tell us that Adam !! and if you cant work out why "Saints were exactly not their selves" I can tell you right now that there are thousands that can. fritzer
  • Score: 7

9:42pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Clever Dick says...

derek james wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
have to disagree with this remark, hopefully their cup commitments will get them relegated
They still have ManU, Chelski, Liverpool, Arse and Spurs to play. All away too. If they don't win more than half of their relegation oppo games they've had it. Could be a very hard lesson as to which are the most important competitions to be successful in.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]have to disagree with this remark, hopefully their cup commitments will get them relegated[/p][/quote]They still have ManU, Chelski, Liverpool, Arse and Spurs to play. All away too. If they don't win more than half of their relegation oppo games they've had it. Could be a very hard lesson as to which are the most important competitions to be successful in. Clever Dick
  • Score: 5

10:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

el caballo santos101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way
I wouldn't bet on it.
Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)
stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear!
Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words.

Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.
We are, indeed, two different people, whose views, on most things Saints, are often poles apart.
......And if we all had the same thoughts, how boring and lonely would this place be
look I've learnt my lesson, i see costa and that 3 letter word and i`m out of there! i don't care which one of you it is.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Good luck Sunderland I hope they go all the way[/p][/quote]I wouldn't bet on it.[/p][/quote]Not even if the Seagulls rest some of their first-tream regulars? You've changed since yesterday! :)[/p][/quote]stras, i saw costa and bet and thought i would stay well clear![/p][/quote]Very wise. Give CB credit for his choice of words. Btw, (carefully trying not to judge either of them), don't forget that there are 2 costa log ins. Your best friend, Cost Gaz, and the completely different, Costa Baz.[/p][/quote]We are, indeed, two different people, whose views, on most things Saints, are often poles apart.[/p][/quote]......And if we all had the same thoughts, how boring and lonely would this place be[/p][/quote]look I've learnt my lesson, i see costa and that 3 letter word and i`m out of there! i don't care which one of you it is. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

10:45pm Sun 16 Feb 14

rayinhornsey says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost.

Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch.

IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.
They may have had appearances here and there but they have not played as a unit
I said after the Hull game that Luke and Morgan looked tired and If they had been the only 2 rested in favour of VW and say Clyne at LB then the team would not have have been as dis-jointed as it was
Yes we need to rotate players but not half a team at a time
It was just sensless and shows a lack of interest in our domestic competitions if you don't want to win it don't enter it
I have today vowed to boycott both the FA and League cups next season, I have only missed one game home and away all this season and I have just had a £20 wager with a mate in my local that I will not go to a cup match next year. The only chance I have of changing my mind would be if we played one of the 8 clubs I have not seen Saint play at (or the Sates of course but we could beat them with our 3rd eleven!!)

All this about the players being tired after Tuesday is crap. honestly - would MP have played that team if yesterday's game had been a league match? The answer is 100% NO. Our first 11 would have won that match no question.

I feel that the club cheated the fans yesterday. I heard that the coaches had to leave Southampton at 4am which probably meant most of our fans were up all night. I was lucky, living in London but could not trust that 8.11 Grand Central train again after the league match the other week so we went up Friday afternoon and stayed in Durham overnight. All in all £99 train fare, £17 hotel £5 ticket, £10 taxi (and Christ knows what on beer!!) just to see 5 changes and a team that looked as if they couldn't give a toss.

I hope in the 3rd round next year we get a home draw and there is less than 5,000 there. It is the only way that we can make the powers that be understand that we are not mindless idiots who will turn up everywhere, every week however they treat us. We must get them to understand that the FA cup is precious to us English fans - the 76 team are legions - we will not stand for our club disrespecting the competition and our great loyal fans anymore. I for one would rather we had lost at Hull on Tuesday and won yesterday and a lot of people agree we me on that.55,000 Saints fans turned up for the Johnson Paint final That's what cup football and Wembley means to Saints fans. What a pathetic waste of a great opportunity to win a trophy.

Anyway sorry about that rant but I do feel better for getting off my chest!!
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.[/p][/quote]9 out of the 11 of the team yesterday have already played their part in this very good season , so there was no reason not to expect a wining performance-it just didn't happen. Playing the numbers game Sunderland were even more changed so it was a pretty equal playing field so get over r it we lost. Not one of the 11 played well, and when KD does what he always does, and fails throughout the game to distribute even a few decent balls the shabby performance was all over the pitch. IMHO the FA Cup has been losing its lustre for some time and the FA are to blame as they have totally ignored and insulted the supporters with TV scheduling taking precedence over every logistical aspect of supporters getting to games. Yesterday's midday KO was just another fine example of dismantling the tradition of what WAS the world's favourite cup comp.[/p][/quote]They may have had appearances here and there but they have not played as a unit I said after the Hull game that Luke and Morgan looked tired and If they had been the only 2 rested in favour of VW and say Clyne at LB then the team would not have have been as dis-jointed as it was Yes we need to rotate players but not half a team at a time It was just sensless and shows a lack of interest in our domestic competitions if you don't want to win it don't enter it[/p][/quote]I have today vowed to boycott both the FA and League cups next season, I have only missed one game home and away all this season and I have just had a £20 wager with a mate in my local that I will not go to a cup match next year. The only chance I have of changing my mind would be if we played one of the 8 clubs I have not seen Saint play at (or the Sates of course but we could beat them with our 3rd eleven!!) All this about the players being tired after Tuesday is crap. honestly - would MP have played that team if yesterday's game had been a league match? The answer is 100% NO. Our first 11 would have won that match no question. I feel that the club cheated the fans yesterday. I heard that the coaches had to leave Southampton at 4am which probably meant most of our fans were up all night. I was lucky, living in London but could not trust that 8.11 Grand Central train again after the league match the other week so we went up Friday afternoon and stayed in Durham overnight. All in all £99 train fare, £17 hotel £5 ticket, £10 taxi (and Christ knows what on beer!!) just to see 5 changes and a team that looked as if they couldn't give a toss. I hope in the 3rd round next year we get a home draw and there is less than 5,000 there. It is the only way that we can make the powers that be understand that we are not mindless idiots who will turn up everywhere, every week however they treat us. We must get them to understand that the FA cup is precious to us English fans - the 76 team are legions - we will not stand for our club disrespecting the competition and our great loyal fans anymore. I for one would rather we had lost at Hull on Tuesday and won yesterday and a lot of people agree we me on that.55,000 Saints fans turned up for the Johnson Paint final That's what cup football and Wembley means to Saints fans. What a pathetic waste of a great opportunity to win a trophy. Anyway sorry about that rant but I do feel better for getting off my chest!! rayinhornsey
  • Score: 8

11:38pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Epsom Saint says...

Whilst I don't agree with the team selection on Saturday - I had no problem with Nat, JWP and Victor being rotated in but I wouldn't have played Guly, Jos and Kelvin unless I had to - I do think the players have to take a large chunk of the blame for the poor performance. We had enough quality in the team to win, but they just didn't play to their normal standards.

Finally, whilst we are all disappointed, some of the comments on these threads have been well over the top - especially those suggesting Jesus should "F**k off back to Spain" or even calling Poch to be replaced by Malchy MaCKay!
Whilst I don't agree with the team selection on Saturday - I had no problem with Nat, JWP and Victor being rotated in but I wouldn't have played Guly, Jos and Kelvin unless I had to - I do think the players have to take a large chunk of the blame for the poor performance. We had enough quality in the team to win, but they just didn't play to their normal standards. Finally, whilst we are all disappointed, some of the comments on these threads have been well over the top - especially those suggesting Jesus should "F**k off back to Spain" or even calling Poch to be replaced by Malchy MaCKay! Epsom Saint
  • Score: 7

1:19am Mon 17 Feb 14

oldseve says...

Total insult to all the travelling fans, and also to the tradition of the FA Cup. Sorry Kelvin, but clearance after clearance over Lukes head into touch to give opposition the ball is not the way to go. Time maybe for you to go. And finally, hopefully Hodgson was not watching, didn't do any good for Lambert, Lallana and Shaw's chances for Brazil.
Total insult to all the travelling fans, and also to the tradition of the FA Cup. Sorry Kelvin, but clearance after clearance over Lukes head into touch to give opposition the ball is not the way to go. Time maybe for you to go. And finally, hopefully Hodgson was not watching, didn't do any good for Lambert, Lallana and Shaw's chances for Brazil. oldseve
  • Score: 2

4:21am Mon 17 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

oldseve wrote:
Total insult to all the travelling fans, and also to the tradition of the FA Cup. Sorry Kelvin, but clearance after clearance over Lukes head into touch to give opposition the ball is not the way to go. Time maybe for you to go. And finally, hopefully Hodgson was not watching, didn't do any good for Lambert, Lallana and Shaw's chances for Brazil.
Yes, I'm sure Hodgson is intelligent enough to evaluate players on the basis of one match.
[quote][p][bold]oldseve[/bold] wrote: Total insult to all the travelling fans, and also to the tradition of the FA Cup. Sorry Kelvin, but clearance after clearance over Lukes head into touch to give opposition the ball is not the way to go. Time maybe for you to go. And finally, hopefully Hodgson was not watching, didn't do any good for Lambert, Lallana and Shaw's chances for Brazil.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm sure Hodgson is intelligent enough to evaluate players on the basis of one match. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

4:30am Mon 17 Feb 14

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
Stras, I believe about 1,800 Saints supporters went to Hull compared to 800 to Sunderland. If the team is thinking of the travelling supporters, which match should have been the priority? (Of course, my figures may be wrong, in which case the conclusion may be different.)
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.[/p][/quote]Stras, I believe about 1,800 Saints supporters went to Hull compared to 800 to Sunderland. If the team is thinking of the travelling supporters, which match should have been the priority? (Of course, my figures may be wrong, in which case the conclusion may be different.) Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

8:35am Mon 17 Feb 14

Forest Saint says...

Spudsaint wrote:
How many chances do players get in their career to be an FA Cup winner? Sorry Adam, but I suspect that you might have just missed your best chance. The JPT final was a great day out for the supporters and I'm surprised that players like Adam seem to have forgotten that. All the expressions of 'disappointment' ring hollow to me after yesterday's selection and performance. I for one won't be shelling out again for cup games until the club changes its approach.
Totally agree!.A lacklustre display by a bunch of disinterested millionaires prepared by a disrespectful foreigner who wont even explain himself. Even Merrington said its high time he tried to speak in english
[quote][p][bold]Spudsaint[/bold] wrote: How many chances do players get in their career to be an FA Cup winner? Sorry Adam, but I suspect that you might have just missed your best chance. The JPT final was a great day out for the supporters and I'm surprised that players like Adam seem to have forgotten that. All the expressions of 'disappointment' ring hollow to me after yesterday's selection and performance. I for one won't be shelling out again for cup games until the club changes its approach.[/p][/quote]Totally agree!.A lacklustre display by a bunch of disinterested millionaires prepared by a disrespectful foreigner who wont even explain himself. Even Merrington said its high time he tried to speak in english Forest Saint
  • Score: -1

8:35am Mon 17 Feb 14

Forest Saint says...

Spudsaint wrote:
How many chances do players get in their career to be an FA Cup winner? Sorry Adam, but I suspect that you might have just missed your best chance. The JPT final was a great day out for the supporters and I'm surprised that players like Adam seem to have forgotten that. All the expressions of 'disappointment' ring hollow to me after yesterday's selection and performance. I for one won't be shelling out again for cup games until the club changes its approach.
Totally agree!.A lacklustre display by a bunch of disinterested millionaires prepared by a disrespectful foreigner who wont even explain himself. Even Merrington said its high time he tried to speak in english
[quote][p][bold]Spudsaint[/bold] wrote: How many chances do players get in their career to be an FA Cup winner? Sorry Adam, but I suspect that you might have just missed your best chance. The JPT final was a great day out for the supporters and I'm surprised that players like Adam seem to have forgotten that. All the expressions of 'disappointment' ring hollow to me after yesterday's selection and performance. I for one won't be shelling out again for cup games until the club changes its approach.[/p][/quote]Totally agree!.A lacklustre display by a bunch of disinterested millionaires prepared by a disrespectful foreigner who wont even explain himself. Even Merrington said its high time he tried to speak in english Forest Saint
  • Score: -2

10:42am Mon 17 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
Stras, I believe about 1,800 Saints supporters went to Hull compared to 800 to Sunderland. If the team is thinking of the travelling supporters, which match should have been the priority? (Of course, my figures may be wrong, in which case the conclusion may be different.)
Fair point, RS. 1,800 on a Tuesday evening in February in Hull is ........ well ........ how can I put it? ........ um ........ not something you will ever hear being referred to by the skunting-along-on-ic
e git who loves quoting bullsh!t figures.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.[/p][/quote]Stras, I believe about 1,800 Saints supporters went to Hull compared to 800 to Sunderland. If the team is thinking of the travelling supporters, which match should have been the priority? (Of course, my figures may be wrong, in which case the conclusion may be different.)[/p][/quote]Fair point, RS. 1,800 on a Tuesday evening in February in Hull is ........ well ........ how can I put it? ........ um ........ not something you will ever hear being referred to by the skunting-along-on-ic e git who loves quoting bullsh!t figures. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

10:45am Mon 17 Feb 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Spudsaint wrote:
How many chances do players get in their career to be an FA Cup winner? Sorry Adam, but I suspect that you might have just missed your best chance. The JPT final was a great day out for the supporters and I'm surprised that players like Adam seem to have forgotten that. All the expressions of 'disappointment' ring hollow to me after yesterday's selection and performance. I for one won't be shelling out again for cup games until the club changes its approach.
Totally agree!.A lacklustre display by a bunch of disinterested millionaires prepared by a disrespectful foreigner who wont even explain himself. Even Merrington said its high time he tried to speak in english
I gather that about an hour before kick off, Dave was heard to utter, 'what Saints don't want to do now is field an under-strength team.'
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spudsaint[/bold] wrote: How many chances do players get in their career to be an FA Cup winner? Sorry Adam, but I suspect that you might have just missed your best chance. The JPT final was a great day out for the supporters and I'm surprised that players like Adam seem to have forgotten that. All the expressions of 'disappointment' ring hollow to me after yesterday's selection and performance. I for one won't be shelling out again for cup games until the club changes its approach.[/p][/quote]Totally agree!.A lacklustre display by a bunch of disinterested millionaires prepared by a disrespectful foreigner who wont even explain himself. Even Merrington said its high time he tried to speak in english[/p][/quote]I gather that about an hour before kick off, Dave was heard to utter, 'what Saints don't want to do now is field an under-strength team.' Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

10:50am Mon 17 Feb 14

GHamilton says...

Some realy good posts on this forum which hit the nail on head regarding how this competition is viewed by clubs/managers. I coul nt help but notice that 31 000 fans were missing from the Stadium of Light on Saturday, probably due to the weather t some degree, but probably due to ticket prices being to high as well, i have no idea what home fan prices were, but surely maybe £10 per adult... £5per child, or a famIly of four for £30 would have greatly increased the turnout and the atmoshere. Will be watching with interest the proposed boycott by Arsenal season ticket holders to the £132 per ticket price set for their champions league game this week....hope they stay at home and stick two fingers up to the clubs board of directors.....if they dont; they'll continue to get screwed
Some realy good posts on this forum which hit the nail on head regarding how this competition is viewed by clubs/managers. I coul nt help but notice that 31 000 fans were missing from the Stadium of Light on Saturday, probably due to the weather t some degree, but probably due to ticket prices being to high as well, i have no idea what home fan prices were, but surely maybe £10 per adult... £5per child, or a famIly of four for £30 would have greatly increased the turnout and the atmoshere. Will be watching with interest the proposed boycott by Arsenal season ticket holders to the £132 per ticket price set for their champions league game this week....hope they stay at home and stick two fingers up to the clubs board of directors.....if they dont; they'll continue to get screwed GHamilton
  • Score: 0

4:11pm Mon 17 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

You're right of course Adam, and I do think you understand, and you're 'allowed' to say it because you're not the Echo or poor old Guly -who are recognized as Aunt Sally's in these parts.
Still can't get my head around how you all went out so lamely though, another nail in the coffin of 'tradition' and the FA Cup that means so much to Saints fans of a certain age, a small part of my everlasting worship of things Saintly just died-and it doesn't feel right.
You're right of course Adam, and I do think you understand, and you're 'allowed' to say it because you're not the Echo or poor old Guly -who are recognized as Aunt Sally's in these parts. Still can't get my head around how you all went out so lamely though, another nail in the coffin of 'tradition' and the FA Cup that means so much to Saints fans of a certain age, a small part of my everlasting worship of things Saintly just died-and it doesn't feel right. lowe esteem
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4:14pm Mon 17 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St.henley wrote:
REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone.

I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal.

PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions.

Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on.

WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret.

ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

COYR
What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity
Kelv?

Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday.

Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team?

The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.
Stras, I believe about 1,800 Saints supporters went to Hull compared to 800 to Sunderland. If the team is thinking of the travelling supporters, which match should have been the priority? (Of course, my figures may be wrong, in which case the conclusion may be different.)
Fair point, RS. 1,800 on a Tuesday evening in February in Hull is ........ well ........ how can I put it? ........ um ........ not something you will ever hear being referred to by the skunting-along-on-ic

e git who loves quoting bullsh!t figures.
Less to give a 'freebie' too as well- as the great Premier League SFC PR macheeeeen grinds into action- onwards and ninth-Forever!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St.henley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: Yes Adam - a great chance to go to WEMBLEY has gone. I saw you work your socks off yesterday - Luke trying to charge up the wing and Rickie attempting to get in the right position to get a goal. PLENTY HAS TO CHANGE - if the Mighty Southampton are to improve their approach to Cup competitions. Fans will turn their back on the League and FA Cup when they travel for hundreds of miles to be faced with the Team Selection of yesterday. We should have played our Number One Players (Artur in goal etc) and once ahead in the game we could have substituted to get the fringe / youngsters on. WE CAN'T SEASON AFTER SEASON go through he motion of saying the Cup is important - not selecting our best players- losing and / or not playing well - and then come out with the Media and PR machine expressing regret. ONLY PUNISHING WET SPAM NEXT WEEK 4-0 WILL MAKE THE FANS FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED YESTERDAY. COYR[/p][/quote]What a c0ck I didn't see any fringe players on the starting line up, bar do prado and he's still getting his sharpness back, why are you so negative.. Call yourself a saints supporter, your better off supporting man shiiity[/p][/quote]Kelv? Jay and Morgan - regulars and almost first on the team sheet all season - played at Hull and were rested (not injured) to the bench on Saturday. Doesn't that tell you it was a weakened team? The point is, however good the starting eleven players are individually, too many of them (JWP, Guly, Jos, Kelv, Victor and Nat) haven't had a great deal of match time lately and certainly not at the same time. Any arguement that the management chose the best available 11 is either untrue or reveals that they were happy to play more or less the same players against Stoke and Hull knowing that this would lead to several of them having to drop out for the FA Cup match - ergo, they prioritised the Hull match. That's their choice; they'd rather finish one place lower than the Europa League spot than win the FA Cup. In that respect, I happen to disagree with them.[/p][/quote]Stras, I believe about 1,800 Saints supporters went to Hull compared to 800 to Sunderland. If the team is thinking of the travelling supporters, which match should have been the priority? (Of course, my figures may be wrong, in which case the conclusion may be different.)[/p][/quote]Fair point, RS. 1,800 on a Tuesday evening in February in Hull is ........ well ........ how can I put it? ........ um ........ not something you will ever hear being referred to by the skunting-along-on-ic e git who loves quoting bullsh!t figures.[/p][/quote]Less to give a 'freebie' too as well- as the great Premier League SFC PR macheeeeen grinds into action- onwards and ninth-Forever! lowe esteem
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