What should Southampton FC do regarding Dani Osvaldo following his alleged headbutt against Jose Fonte?

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Following his suspension yesterday for allegedly headbutting Jose Fonte, what do you think Saints should do with record signing Dani Osvaldo in the coming weeks?

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9:51am Fri 24 Jan 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Don't sell him
It was an accident
Don't sell him It was an accident Sammy2sheds

10:04am Fri 24 Jan 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

I can't see the club wasting the investment.
they need to find a way through this and so does Osvaldo.

Needs to direct his frustration/aggressi
on/whatever into playing the game rather than taking it out on team mates.
I take everything being said in the media with a pinch of salt - Yes there was clearly an incident which the club needed to do something about.
And the club did the right thing by posting that statement immediately.

It's easy to just say 'get rid' when you personally haven't spent £15million on something.
but the right thing to do is try to achieve redemption and get the player playing which is, after all, what you spent the money for. So you get some sort of return on the investment - if we all saw that, think most of us would be happy.
I can't see the club wasting the investment. they need to find a way through this and so does Osvaldo. Needs to direct his frustration/aggressi on/whatever into playing the game rather than taking it out on team mates. I take everything being said in the media with a pinch of salt - Yes there was clearly an incident which the club needed to do something about. And the club did the right thing by posting that statement immediately. It's easy to just say 'get rid' when you personally haven't spent £15million on something. but the right thing to do is try to achieve redemption and get the player playing which is, after all, what you spent the money for. So you get some sort of return on the investment - if we all saw that, think most of us would be happy. Stroppy_gramps

10:05am Fri 24 Jan 14

St Retford says...

As with so many things this is impossible to answer without knowing the ins and outs. I mean, if he seems genuinely contrite and willing to work to prove his worth and if Jose is willing to accept his apology then, yes, give him another chance. He's a passionate guy and tempers do fray on a football pitch.

But if he's strutting around like a tw@t and complaining about how unfair it all is then, yes, ship him out.
As with so many things this is impossible to answer without knowing the ins and outs. I mean, if he seems genuinely contrite and willing to work to prove his worth and if Jose is willing to accept his apology then, yes, give him another chance. He's a passionate guy and tempers do fray on a football pitch. But if he's strutting around like a tw@t and complaining about how unfair it all is then, yes, ship him out. St Retford

10:06am Fri 24 Jan 14

Chipster says...

Sell, loan out, whatever! Just get rid!

There's no coming back from attacking one of your own, the trust has gone and it seems he is undermining team spirit. In any case he has previous when it comes to sticking one on a team mate!

In my opinion he's been indulged too much and has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL, apart from his wonder strike against Man City he's hardly set the world alight!

We need "team player's" with a good work ethic, willing to knuckle down and graft when things get tough. For me he's not been worth the money we paid, and for that matter nor has Rameriz!

Get rid of both, with they're combined fee's surely there are players out there which are far more conducive to the PL and our style of play?

Lets get someone in who is less "high maintenance" and comes with far less baggage!............
..............COYR's
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Sell, loan out, whatever! Just get rid! There's no coming back from attacking one of your own, the trust has gone and it seems he is undermining team spirit. In any case he has previous when it comes to sticking one on a team mate! In my opinion he's been indulged too much and has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL, apart from his wonder strike against Man City he's hardly set the world alight! We need "team player's" with a good work ethic, willing to knuckle down and graft when things get tough. For me he's not been worth the money we paid, and for that matter nor has Rameriz! Get rid of both, with they're combined fee's surely there are players out there which are far more conducive to the PL and our style of play? Lets get someone in who is less "high maintenance" and comes with far less baggage!............ ..............COYR's ! Chipster

10:08am Fri 24 Jan 14

Poglong Perry says...

Sell him as he will be a cancer amough the club. He doesn't want to be there that's obvious to see, I feel that's why he may of started it, quick exit! There is no place in the squad for a hot head - fact!!!!
Sell him as he will be a cancer amough the club. He doesn't want to be there that's obvious to see, I feel that's why he may of started it, quick exit! There is no place in the squad for a hot head - fact!!!! Poglong Perry

10:09am Fri 24 Jan 14

Andover Saint says...

get rid.....after getting a replacement.
get rid.....after getting a replacement. Andover Saint

10:09am Fri 24 Jan 14

Poglong Perry says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Don't sell him It was an accident
If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!!
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Don't sell him It was an accident[/p][/quote]If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!! Poglong Perry

10:16am Fri 24 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

More TROUBLE than he s WORTH !! 15 million we at least require someone that can curb his frustration or anger to performing on the pitch ! So far he has scored MORE with his ATTITUDE than with his feet . Being part of a team is KEY , He certainly is a potential liability . Bye Bye OZ , man up or SOD OFF
More TROUBLE than he s WORTH !! 15 million we at least require someone that can curb his frustration or anger to performing on the pitch ! So far he has scored MORE with his ATTITUDE than with his feet . Being part of a team is KEY , He certainly is a potential liability . Bye Bye OZ , man up or SOD OFF SPIKEISLANDTRADER

10:23am Fri 24 Jan 14

mbetts says...

Nobody outside the training session knows the full story, spats happen all the time even amongst normal people, let alone precious millionaires, it'll die down, it's been dealt with buy the club, time to move on, but keep an eye on the volatile but obviously talented Osvaldo, if we can fix his brain and calm him down he could be great for us, look at Suarez this season!
Nobody outside the training session knows the full story, spats happen all the time even amongst normal people, let alone precious millionaires, it'll die down, it's been dealt with buy the club, time to move on, but keep an eye on the volatile but obviously talented Osvaldo, if we can fix his brain and calm him down he could be great for us, look at Suarez this season! mbetts

10:24am Fri 24 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

Our side for the last three seasons has been based on togetherness and effort. To have risked us losing another centre half now that we have lost Dejan for a while is unforgivable no matter what the circumstances. Hopefully he has been fined the two weeks wages as well. So far he has been a liability, with the exception of the ManC goal. He needs a lesson in humility. I'd have him training with the Academy for the two weeks.
Our side for the last three seasons has been based on togetherness and effort. To have risked us losing another centre half now that we have lost Dejan for a while is unforgivable no matter what the circumstances. Hopefully he has been fined the two weeks wages as well. So far he has been a liability, with the exception of the ManC goal. He needs a lesson in humility. I'd have him training with the Academy for the two weeks. Clever Dick

10:34am Fri 24 Jan 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Saints would, perhaps, be sensible to get Dani Osvaldo some professional help, as he obviously has a personal anger management problem. Getting him some help could turn Dani into the asset to the club that he should be. In other words, don't get rid of Dani, get rid of his problem! People in any walk of life can be afflicted by being unable to control their tempers, but the good news is that these days they can be helped. Come on, Daily Echo, how about writing an article about that???
Saints would, perhaps, be sensible to get Dani Osvaldo some professional help, as he obviously has a personal anger management problem. Getting him some help could turn Dani into the asset to the club that he should be. In other words, don't get rid of Dani, get rid of his problem! People in any walk of life can be afflicted by being unable to control their tempers, but the good news is that these days they can be helped. Come on, Daily Echo, how about writing an article about that??? justaSaintsfan

10:38am Fri 24 Jan 14

notaclue says...

Hey, it all depends on his attitude, is he sorry for what he has done?

Will Fonte and the rest of the team accept his apologies and welcome him back as part of the squad?

He needs to man up, accept that what he did was very wrong and mean it when he apologises and realise that he will not be given any more chances like that.

If Fonte accepts it then so can I, if he doesn't then Mr Osvaldo can do one.
Hey, it all depends on his attitude, is he sorry for what he has done? Will Fonte and the rest of the team accept his apologies and welcome him back as part of the squad? He needs to man up, accept that what he did was very wrong and mean it when he apologises and realise that he will not be given any more chances like that. If Fonte accepts it then so can I, if he doesn't then Mr Osvaldo can do one. notaclue

10:44am Fri 24 Jan 14

up saints says...

get rid should never put on a southampton shirt again not the first bit of trouble
get rid should never put on a southampton shirt again not the first bit of trouble up saints

10:45am Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's !
People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's ! therealredarmy

10:46am Fri 24 Jan 14

notaclue says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Our side for the last three seasons has been based on togetherness and effort. To have risked us losing another centre half now that we have lost Dejan for a while is unforgivable no matter what the circumstances. Hopefully he has been fined the two weeks wages as well. So far he has been a liability, with the exception of the ManC goal. He needs a lesson in humility. I'd have him training with the Academy for the two weeks.
If I was an Academy player I wouldn't thank you for putting me up against that particular lose cannon in training right now.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Our side for the last three seasons has been based on togetherness and effort. To have risked us losing another centre half now that we have lost Dejan for a while is unforgivable no matter what the circumstances. Hopefully he has been fined the two weeks wages as well. So far he has been a liability, with the exception of the ManC goal. He needs a lesson in humility. I'd have him training with the Academy for the two weeks.[/p][/quote]If I was an Academy player I wouldn't thank you for putting me up against that particular lose cannon in training right now. notaclue

10:46am Fri 24 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Sticks in my gullet somewhat, but offloading Dani would now seem wise - though I guess the club will need to play this carefully in order to try and recoup as much of the huge fee we paid as possible.

Coming to the UK for a fresh start was supposed to be the answer to his long track record of similar problems in Italy - and I think the club and the fans certainly gave that to him. But in just a little over half a season he's got two suspensions totalling six matches for attacking an opposition bench member and then attacking a team mate. There's no question of giving him a second chance since any further chance will actually be the sixth or seventh he's had.

It also isn't at all clear from what he's said that he really wants to change. In fact he seems to rather like that part of his nature. That's fine maybe for a rock star (which is maybe what he really wants to be) but not a professional footballer playing in a team sport in the world's toughest league.

If he was performing like Suarez then no doubt we'd chance it. But of course he isn't - and putting a loose cannon on the pitch seems a big risk to set against a small gain.

It also sets a p!ss poor example to the academy lads - especially those close to first team appearances.

I think what annoys me most about this is not that Dani is earning much more every week than most paying fans earn in a year - but that he doesn't seem to think himself very fortunate in this or have some sense of wanting to do his best to repay the club and supporters.

Having said all that, I'll go along with whatever MoPo decides.
Sticks in my gullet somewhat, but offloading Dani would now seem wise - though I guess the club will need to play this carefully in order to try and recoup as much of the huge fee we paid as possible. Coming to the UK for a fresh start was supposed to be the answer to his long track record of similar problems in Italy - and I think the club and the fans certainly gave that to him. But in just a little over half a season he's got two suspensions totalling six matches for attacking an opposition bench member and then attacking a team mate. There's no question of giving him a second chance since any further chance will actually be the sixth or seventh he's had. It also isn't at all clear from what he's said that he really wants to change. In fact he seems to rather like that part of his nature. That's fine maybe for a rock star (which is maybe what he really wants to be) but not a professional footballer playing in a team sport in the world's toughest league. If he was performing like Suarez then no doubt we'd chance it. But of course he isn't - and putting a loose cannon on the pitch seems a big risk to set against a small gain. It also sets a p!ss poor example to the academy lads - especially those close to first team appearances. I think what annoys me most about this is not that Dani is earning much more every week than most paying fans earn in a year - but that he doesn't seem to think himself very fortunate in this or have some sense of wanting to do his best to repay the club and supporters. Having said all that, I'll go along with whatever MoPo decides. Confucious

10:47am Fri 24 Jan 14

saint christopher says...

If we had 2 or 3 other strikers regularly finding the net it would be a no-brainer providing we didn't lose too much. He hasn't yet fulfilled his obvious potential and is now a long long way from being part of that tightly knit team which is so essential to our way of playing.

But our only PL-class striker is currently J-Rod, and given that us getting a replacement striker for reasonable money is as unlikely as ManU winning the PL this year I cannot see the club offloading him at this stage.

More likely scenario is him being given a final shape up or get used to being a bench-warmer ultimatum, in the hope that he'll find redemption through fulfilling what he was paid for, and if not that we can get a good replacement later.
If we had 2 or 3 other strikers regularly finding the net it would be a no-brainer providing we didn't lose too much. He hasn't yet fulfilled his obvious potential and is now a long long way from being part of that tightly knit team which is so essential to our way of playing. But our only PL-class striker is currently J-Rod, and given that us getting a replacement striker for reasonable money is as unlikely as ManU winning the PL this year I cannot see the club offloading him at this stage. More likely scenario is him being given a final shape up or get used to being a bench-warmer ultimatum, in the hope that he'll find redemption through fulfilling what he was paid for, and if not that we can get a good replacement later. saint christopher

10:50am Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

therealredarmy wrote:
People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's !
I think it was made very clear that Jose was NOT to blame, the guy has an obvious problem with his temper, he isn't unique and there are ways of dealing with it, one more chance please, he is is a flawed talent that needs to be managed, wherever he goes. Would also like to hear his side of the story and whether he has shown any sign of regret or remorse.
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's ![/p][/quote]I think it was made very clear that Jose was NOT to blame, the guy has an obvious problem with his temper, he isn't unique and there are ways of dealing with it, one more chance please, he is is a flawed talent that needs to be managed, wherever he goes. Would also like to hear his side of the story and whether he has shown any sign of regret or remorse. OSPREYSAINT

10:51am Fri 24 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

therealredarmy wrote:
People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's !
I think the clue may well be that Jose was not disciplined and Osvalso was.
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's ![/p][/quote]I think the clue may well be that Jose was not disciplined and Osvalso was. Clever Dick

10:55am Fri 24 Jan 14

Winchester Saint says...

Poglong Perry wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Don't sell him It was an accident
If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!!
Yeah, not an accident. He had row with Fonte and everyone had seen what happened. That's why he was banned.
[quote][p][bold]Poglong Perry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Don't sell him It was an accident[/p][/quote]If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!![/p][/quote]Yeah, not an accident. He had row with Fonte and everyone had seen what happened. That's why he was banned. Winchester Saint

10:57am Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@OSPREYSAINT and Clever Dick.

Like I said guys no one knows what happen until a real statement is release by the club I think we shouldn't throw the first stone. Let's get behind him and hope he score many goals for our club.
@OSPREYSAINT and Clever Dick. Like I said guys no one knows what happen until a real statement is release by the club I think we shouldn't throw the first stone. Let's get behind him and hope he score many goals for our club. therealredarmy

10:57am Fri 24 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

notaclue wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Our side for the last three seasons has been based on togetherness and effort. To have risked us losing another centre half now that we have lost Dejan for a while is unforgivable no matter what the circumstances. Hopefully he has been fined the two weeks wages as well. So far he has been a liability, with the exception of the ManC goal. He needs a lesson in humility. I'd have him training with the Academy for the two weeks.
If I was an Academy player I wouldn't thank you for putting me up against that particular lose cannon in training right now.
You're right. On further consideration I think he should be sent down the motorway to train with the scunts. Nothing could be more demeaning than that surely.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: Our side for the last three seasons has been based on togetherness and effort. To have risked us losing another centre half now that we have lost Dejan for a while is unforgivable no matter what the circumstances. Hopefully he has been fined the two weeks wages as well. So far he has been a liability, with the exception of the ManC goal. He needs a lesson in humility. I'd have him training with the Academy for the two weeks.[/p][/quote]If I was an Academy player I wouldn't thank you for putting me up against that particular lose cannon in training right now.[/p][/quote]You're right. On further consideration I think he should be sent down the motorway to train with the scunts. Nothing could be more demeaning than that surely. Clever Dick

10:59am Fri 24 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

therealredarmy wrote:
@OSPREYSAINT and Clever Dick.

Like I said guys no one knows what happen until a real statement is release by the club I think we shouldn't throw the first stone. Let's get behind him and hope he score many goals for our club.
No further statement is to be released by the club.
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: @OSPREYSAINT and Clever Dick. Like I said guys no one knows what happen until a real statement is release by the club I think we shouldn't throw the first stone. Let's get behind him and hope he score many goals for our club.[/p][/quote]No further statement is to be released by the club. Clever Dick

11:00am Fri 24 Jan 14

Winchester Saint says...

I agreed with you on selling or loan players but we have a week to go and there will not enough time to sell him cos talks will take long time with agents and clubs on fees, legal things, etc.

Loan him out to clubs would be simpler if he is to be sold permanently in the summer.

If not, very likely gone in the summer.
I agreed with you on selling or loan players but we have a week to go and there will not enough time to sell him cos talks will take long time with agents and clubs on fees, legal things, etc. Loan him out to clubs would be simpler if he is to be sold permanently in the summer. If not, very likely gone in the summer. Winchester Saint

11:01am Fri 24 Jan 14

Mackerel manbag says...

I wouldn't like to judge on what I don't actually know. I'll leave any decision to MoPo as he knows best. If he knuckles down and starts putting the ball in then I'm happy just as I would be if he's sold. Only want what's best for SFC! If he would be after a replacement I think a cheeky bid for Hernandez from manure he'd be ideal for is in every way in my opinion!
I wouldn't like to judge on what I don't actually know. I'll leave any decision to MoPo as he knows best. If he knuckles down and starts putting the ball in then I'm happy just as I would be if he's sold. Only want what's best for SFC! If he would be after a replacement I think a cheeky bid for Hernandez from manure he'd be ideal for is in every way in my opinion! Mackerel manbag

11:19am Fri 24 Jan 14

justaSaintsfan says...

therealredarmy wrote:
People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's !
I said Saints would, PERHAPS, be sensible to get Dani Osvaldo some professional help. It seems quite clear that he does have a problem controlling his own temper. Judge him, NO. Help him, YES!!!
PERHAPS if I had put PERHAPS in capitals, you might have noticed it!!! Ha! Ha! By the way, sorry if I appear to be shouting. I'm not, I'm merely emphasising certain words!
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's ![/p][/quote]I said Saints would, PERHAPS, be sensible to get Dani Osvaldo some professional help. It seems quite clear that he does have a problem controlling his own temper. Judge him, NO. Help him, YES!!! PERHAPS if I had put PERHAPS in capitals, you might have noticed it!!! Ha! Ha! By the way, sorry if I appear to be shouting. I'm not, I'm merely emphasising certain words! justaSaintsfan

11:20am Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.' Strasbourg Saint

11:21am Fri 24 Jan 14

loz-sfc says...

Sell him, cut their losses on this hot head. Invest in in someone who wants to play, just a thought...Hernandez is looking to move on, the same price as Ozvaldo and he scores plenty!!!!
Sell him, cut their losses on this hot head. Invest in in someone who wants to play, just a thought...Hernandez is looking to move on, the same price as Ozvaldo and he scores plenty!!!! loz-sfc

11:22am Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Winchester Saint wrote:
Poglong Perry wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Don't sell him It was an accident
If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!!
Yeah, not an accident. He had row with Fonte and everyone had seen what happened. That's why he was banned.
Thank you both (Winchester and Poglong) for spotting the irony in Sammy's comment, embracing it and playing along with it to the full.
[quote][p][bold]Winchester Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poglong Perry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Don't sell him It was an accident[/p][/quote]If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!![/p][/quote]Yeah, not an accident. He had row with Fonte and everyone had seen what happened. That's why he was banned.[/p][/quote]Thank you both (Winchester and Poglong) for spotting the irony in Sammy's comment, embracing it and playing along with it to the full. Strasbourg Saint

11:31am Fri 24 Jan 14

SouthLondonSaint says...

Osvaldo can F*ck off to inter for £15 mill and we can buy Hernandez for £15 mill... Makes sence to me he's young, quick, works hard, scores goals and is proven in the prem. Would he come to us??
Osvaldo can F*ck off to inter for £15 mill and we can buy Hernandez for £15 mill... Makes sence to me he's young, quick, works hard, scores goals and is proven in the prem. Would he come to us?? SouthLondonSaint

11:32am Fri 24 Jan 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
how dare you bring a reasonable attitude to this debate!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'[/p][/quote]how dare you bring a reasonable attitude to this debate! Stroppy_gramps

11:32am Fri 24 Jan 14

saint Compo says...

Osvaldo must go. Unfortunately, we will find it hard to get a good replacement this month due to the uncertainty caused by the events of the last week or so. The best bet would be an English player from a lower league such as Ings or Ince but even they may be reluctant to join a club whose manager may not stay after the season's end.

One has to question the judgement of those responsible for bringing in Ramirez and Osvaldo for high fees. Both have failed miserably. Was NC largely to blame or must Les Reed and MoPo be held to account?

COYR
Osvaldo must go. Unfortunately, we will find it hard to get a good replacement this month due to the uncertainty caused by the events of the last week or so. The best bet would be an English player from a lower league such as Ings or Ince but even they may be reluctant to join a club whose manager may not stay after the season's end. One has to question the judgement of those responsible for bringing in Ramirez and Osvaldo for high fees. Both have failed miserably. Was NC largely to blame or must Les Reed and MoPo be held to account? COYR saint Compo

11:37am Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
Good polls always have the Don't know option!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'[/p][/quote]Good polls always have the Don't know option! OSPREYSAINT

11:41am Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@SouthLondonSaint

Nobody will buy him for 15 million specially not Inter they have their own issue they just got rid of their manager and their new owner is a loose cannon right now is worth around 7-8 million so selling Osvaldo wold be a big loss Danny Ings would be a great addition and is local as well .
@SouthLondonSaint Nobody will buy him for 15 million specially not Inter they have their own issue they just got rid of their manager and their new owner is a loose cannon right now is worth around 7-8 million so selling Osvaldo wold be a big loss Danny Ings would be a great addition and is local as well . therealredarmy

11:42am Fri 24 Jan 14

hdfw09 says...

Give Gallagher a good run.
Give Gallagher a good run. hdfw09

11:45am Fri 24 Jan 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Lots of good points made on here for and against keeping Osvaldo after this episode. For me the team spirit is the be all and end all and it’s down to them whether or not Dani can be accepted back into the fold if he shows remorse.
John Hartson once kicked the granny out of Eyal Berkovic at West Ham and it was curtains for Big John. Alan Shearer put team mate Keith Gillespie in a hospital bed and they all manged to kiss and make up.
There are no winners when crap like this happens, but I hope it can be resolved and Dani makes amends and gets a chance to knuckle down and do what he is paid handsomely to do for us.

I’m in the 21% minority by the looks of it.
Lots of good points made on here for and against keeping Osvaldo after this episode. For me the team spirit is the be all and end all and it’s down to them whether or not Dani can be accepted back into the fold if he shows remorse. John Hartson once kicked the granny out of Eyal Berkovic at West Ham and it was curtains for Big John. Alan Shearer put team mate Keith Gillespie in a hospital bed and they all manged to kiss and make up. There are no winners when crap like this happens, but I hope it can be resolved and Dani makes amends and gets a chance to knuckle down and do what he is paid handsomely to do for us. I’m in the 21% minority by the looks of it. Mush On The Beach

11:52am Fri 24 Jan 14

boilerman says...

I said a few months ago that I thought he would go in January as i felt he wassn't happy not playing especially in a world cup year.
At the time i was slagged off as being negative and therefore not a real Saints fan.
Well after reading some of the comments I am amazed how some people's attitudes have changed..
The lesson here is, just because someone has a different opinion from the one you hold doesn't make them wrong.
I think we should off load this guy and give lambert a better run.
I said a few months ago that I thought he would go in January as i felt he wassn't happy not playing especially in a world cup year. At the time i was slagged off as being negative and therefore not a real Saints fan. Well after reading some of the comments I am amazed how some people's attitudes have changed.. The lesson here is, just because someone has a different opinion from the one you hold doesn't make them wrong. I think we should off load this guy and give lambert a better run. boilerman

11:58am Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@boilerman

The same thing happen to me when I said that Ramirez and Osvaldo are both average and not worth 15 million each. I received so many negative comment for expressing myself in that forum. Let Rodriguez playing upfront he's doing a great job yes he need to improve is finish but he's alright and bring back Danny Ings
@boilerman The same thing happen to me when I said that Ramirez and Osvaldo are both average and not worth 15 million each. I received so many negative comment for expressing myself in that forum. Let Rodriguez playing upfront he's doing a great job yes he need to improve is finish but he's alright and bring back Danny Ings therealredarmy

12:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Doctor Watson says...

All done and dusted.

Pochettino, has apparently sat him down and said, "No butts - it mustn't happen again."

:-o
All done and dusted. Pochettino, has apparently sat him down and said, "No butts - it mustn't happen again." :-o Doctor Watson

12:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Egomaniac says...

I believe he has gone too far this time. Only thugs head butt their colleagues.

SFC put faith in Osvaldo and paid a fortune for him. He has produced virtually nothing since he's been here, other than to get himself banned and suspended. That is not how you treat your Club and companions.

I think Osvaldo wants out, so give him his wish. Let's accept the losses financially and seek out good players who would be honoured to play in the Southampton FC shirt.

For the contributor who suggested Ramirez should also go - no, I do not agree. He really does seem to be making an effort, and is worth every chance. At least he doesn't head butt his fellow team mates!! Stick with Gaston, get rid of the trouble maker Osvaldo, whose only loyalty seems to be to himself.

Good riddance too!
I believe he has gone too far this time. Only thugs head butt their colleagues. SFC put faith in Osvaldo and paid a fortune for him. He has produced virtually nothing since he's been here, other than to get himself banned and suspended. That is not how you treat your Club and companions. I think Osvaldo wants out, so give him his wish. Let's accept the losses financially and seek out good players who would be honoured to play in the Southampton FC shirt. For the contributor who suggested Ramirez should also go - no, I do not agree. He really does seem to be making an effort, and is worth every chance. At least he doesn't head butt his fellow team mates!! Stick with Gaston, get rid of the trouble maker Osvaldo, whose only loyalty seems to be to himself. Good riddance too! Egomaniac

12:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Beer Monster says...

Hopefully it can be sorted out where it all occured - behind the scenes, on the training pitch. Katherina has done well to dispell the furore coming from the idiots in the press by steadying the boat for everyone, and it would be preferable to see Pocho do the same here. How many times over the years have we seen our players do stupid things that they were reprimanded for, and have learned from?
Hopefully it can be sorted out where it all occured - behind the scenes, on the training pitch. Katherina has done well to dispell the furore coming from the idiots in the press by steadying the boat for everyone, and it would be preferable to see Pocho do the same here. How many times over the years have we seen our players do stupid things that they were reprimanded for, and have learned from? Beer Monster

12:05pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mr.southampton says...

Osvaldo has form for being a trouble maker with a whole series of spats with managers and team-mates behind him. Seems to be in the same mould as Joey Barton,

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Osvaldo has form for being a trouble maker with a whole series of spats with managers and team-mates behind him. Seems to be in the same mould as Joey Barton, http://espnfc.com/bl og/_/name/espnfcunit ed/id/6474?cc=5739 mr.southampton

12:08pm Fri 24 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

does anyone remember when this? "in the dressing-room, After a nightmare display from Mark Wright, McMenemy laid into the centre-back with a torrent of abuse. Wright refused to accept the criticism and, with both of them now fully clothed, pushed his manager into the showers where they proceeded to have a full-on ruck in front of bewildered team-mates and staff".
didn't we sell wright after this? and whatever happened to him? oh yeah that's right, he had a successful career with derby, Liverpool and England.
all I`m trying to say is, we may sell Dani and regret it later, let the club sort it out and support the players afterwards. it also show that things like this happen all the time, did anyone see hartson kick Eyal Berkovic in the head? team mates have fights all the time and most of them are never made public.
does anyone remember when this? "in the dressing-room, After a nightmare display from Mark Wright, McMenemy laid into the centre-back with a torrent of abuse. Wright refused to accept the criticism and, with both of them now fully clothed, pushed his manager into the showers where they proceeded to have a full-on ruck in front of bewildered team-mates and staff". didn't we sell wright after this? and whatever happened to him? oh yeah that's right, he had a successful career with derby, Liverpool and England. all I`m trying to say is, we may sell Dani and regret it later, let the club sort it out and support the players afterwards. it also show that things like this happen all the time, did anyone see hartson kick Eyal Berkovic in the head? team mates have fights all the time and most of them are never made public. el caballo santos101

12:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

willygetaway says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
Good polls always have the Don't know option!
quite right, I for 1 am getting a little pee,d off the the D E sh*t stirring, or am i the only one to notice this ??? I support the MIghty Saints thick or Thin COYR
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'[/p][/quote]Good polls always have the Don't know option![/p][/quote]quite right, I for 1 am getting a little pee,d off the the D E sh*t stirring, or am i the only one to notice this ??? I support the MIghty Saints thick or Thin COYR willygetaway

12:12pm Fri 24 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

therealredarmy wrote:
@OSPREYSAINT and Clever Dick. Like I said guys no one knows what happen until a real statement is release by the club I think we shouldn't throw the first stone. Let's get behind him and hope he score many goals for our club.
When will we ever see him play for us????
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: @OSPREYSAINT and Clever Dick. Like I said guys no one knows what happen until a real statement is release by the club I think we shouldn't throw the first stone. Let's get behind him and hope he score many goals for our club.[/p][/quote]When will we ever see him play for us???? hedge end bob

12:40pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jonnyP says...

Bring Jason Puncheon back- he always looked likely to get us a goal- defenders don't like people running at them & that is exactly what Puncheon does......... just don't let him take our penalties, LOL!!!
Bring Jason Puncheon back- he always looked likely to get us a goal- defenders don't like people running at them & that is exactly what Puncheon does......... just don't let him take our penalties, LOL!!! jonnyP

12:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

The Grinch says...

I haven't seen the value so far, so if we can get most of our money back I'd get rid. Otherwise the pragmatic thing to do is to try and motivate him and get something out of him.

If we can think of somebody else we could get in to replace him either now or end of the season then I'd take a loss frankly and say goodbye
I haven't seen the value so far, so if we can get most of our money back I'd get rid. Otherwise the pragmatic thing to do is to try and motivate him and get something out of him. If we can think of somebody else we could get in to replace him either now or end of the season then I'd take a loss frankly and say goodbye The Grinch

12:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

I am ready to take him to airport myself (to make sure see the back of this clown)
I am ready to take him to airport myself (to make sure see the back of this clown) sasmike

12:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Big Mac says...

Think he should stay and attempt to repay some of his debt to the club. That said, every opposing team will now attempt to light his blue touch paper and stand back and wait for the fireworks!
Think he should stay and attempt to repay some of his debt to the club. That said, every opposing team will now attempt to light his blue touch paper and stand back and wait for the fireworks! Big Mac

12:58pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Dave Juson says...

This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame! Dave Juson

1:08pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !! sasmike

1:09pm Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@Dave Juson

Thank you !
@Dave Juson Thank you ! therealredarmy

1:15pm Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@sasmike

Any player who come to the EPL need at least a year to adapt to the physicality of the English game . Osvaldo need a year not 2 or 6 month, Yes that incident in staplewood look bad but do you know what happen yesterday so I don't think it's right to say taxi asap
@sasmike Any player who come to the EPL need at least a year to adapt to the physicality of the English game . Osvaldo need a year not 2 or 6 month, Yes that incident in staplewood look bad but do you know what happen yesterday so I don't think it's right to say taxi asap therealredarmy

1:16pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Rising_Son says...

jonnyP wrote:
Bring Jason Puncheon back- he always looked likely to get us a goal- defenders don't like people running at them & that is exactly what Puncheon does......... just don't let him take our penalties, LOL!!!
Yep. He's scored a hatful at Palace, hasn't he?
[quote][p][bold]jonnyP[/bold] wrote: Bring Jason Puncheon back- he always looked likely to get us a goal- defenders don't like people running at them & that is exactly what Puncheon does......... just don't let him take our penalties, LOL!!![/p][/quote]Yep. He's scored a hatful at Palace, hasn't he? Rising_Son

1:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Dave Juson says...

sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i.
I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.
[quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i. I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me. Dave Juson

1:23pm Fri 24 Jan 14

alanstreet46 says...

Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.
Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay. alanstreet46

1:25pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

therealredarmy wrote:
@sasmike

Any player who come to the EPL need at least a year to adapt to the physicality of the English game . Osvaldo need a year not 2 or 6 month, Yes that incident in staplewood look bad but do you know what happen yesterday so I don't think it's right to say taxi asap
ok no taxi get a police car for him , it be quicker than a taxi... 50k a week and his bala style footwork and his headbutt headwork he is a CLOWN
sorry I do not accept he needs that much time to adapt . rather have guly or barnard or sharp at least they commit to the club
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: @sasmike Any player who come to the EPL need at least a year to adapt to the physicality of the English game . Osvaldo need a year not 2 or 6 month, Yes that incident in staplewood look bad but do you know what happen yesterday so I don't think it's right to say taxi asap[/p][/quote]ok no taxi get a police car for him , it be quicker than a taxi... 50k a week and his bala style footwork and his headbutt headwork he is a CLOWN sorry I do not accept he needs that much time to adapt . rather have guly or barnard or sharp at least they commit to the club sasmike

1:27pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

Dave Juson wrote:
sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i.
I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.
d.o is punch and D.J is judy , JOG ON THE PAIR OF YOU
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i. I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.[/p][/quote]d.o is punch and D.J is judy , JOG ON THE PAIR OF YOU sasmike

1:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Big Mac says...

Dave Juson wrote:
sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i.
I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.
Should we sign Mathew then?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i. I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.[/p][/quote]Should we sign Mathew then? Big Mac

1:35pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Rising_Son says...

alanstreet46 wrote:
Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.
What exactly is disgraceful about not being able to speak English?
[quote][p][bold]alanstreet46[/bold] wrote: Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.[/p][/quote]What exactly is disgraceful about not being able to speak English? Rising_Son

1:35pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

Big Mac wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i.
I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.
Should we sign Mathew then?
matthew would be a better option than the misfit from Italy :)
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i. I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.[/p][/quote]Should we sign Mathew then?[/p][/quote]matthew would be a better option than the misfit from Italy :) sasmike

1:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@sasmike

Osvaldo play in Italy where there's no pace and strong defence so you think because he's earning 50k he should adapt within minute ?. Even the best player in the world right now Cristiano Ronaldo took him 1 year to adapt to the English so please get real. You want to play 3 pub players instead of Osvaldo at least Osvaldo score given half chance.
@sasmike Osvaldo play in Italy where there's no pace and strong defence so you think because he's earning 50k he should adapt within minute ?. Even the best player in the world right now Cristiano Ronaldo took him 1 year to adapt to the English so please get real. You want to play 3 pub players instead of Osvaldo at least Osvaldo score given half chance. therealredarmy

1:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Bob Barnes says...

Poglong Perry wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Don't sell him It was an accident
If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!!
Agree get shot heapears to be an expensive liability , since he came what can you honestly say about him, he has hardly set the club alight has he, how can you call a Scotch Kiss an accident ?
[quote][p][bold]Poglong Perry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Don't sell him It was an accident[/p][/quote]If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!![/p][/quote]Agree get shot heapears to be an expensive liability , since he came what can you honestly say about him, he has hardly set the club alight has he, how can you call a Scotch Kiss an accident ? Bob Barnes

1:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

St Retford says...

sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i.
I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.
d.o is punch and D.J is judy , JOG ON THE PAIR OF YOU
Michael, I'm guessing from your username that you're an air steward on board Scandinavian Airlines. Now, I've flown with your airline and have found the staff to be among the most attentive and well-mannered service personnel in the world.

And yet you seem strangely angry with people - and with foreigners in particular. Is it the strain of maintaining a smile all day as you serve them teas and coffees? Are you sick of groups of men leering at you as though you're nothing more than a piece of meat?

Tell us, and we'll see if we can help.
[quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i. I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.[/p][/quote]d.o is punch and D.J is judy , JOG ON THE PAIR OF YOU[/p][/quote]Michael, I'm guessing from your username that you're an air steward on board Scandinavian Airlines. Now, I've flown with your airline and have found the staff to be among the most attentive and well-mannered service personnel in the world. And yet you seem strangely angry with people - and with foreigners in particular. Is it the strain of maintaining a smile all day as you serve them teas and coffees? Are you sick of groups of men leering at you as though you're nothing more than a piece of meat? Tell us, and we'll see if we can help. St Retford

1:40pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion. OSPREYSAINT

1:43pm Fri 24 Jan 14

notaclue says...

Dave Juson wrote:
sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i.
I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.
But haven't Sants just judged this matter and banned him or two weeks?

Does that mean Sants will now be banned for two months? - Oh NO!!, This bible stuff is complicated....

Think I'll just let Saints management deal with it the best way they see fit.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]No. You are missing the point. “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measures you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” Matthew 7/i. I do not believe in Hell, but somebody should create one for you and your ilk. Sorry to be so blunt, I really am, but you disgust me.[/p][/quote]But haven't Sants just judged this matter and banned him or two weeks? Does that mean Sants will now be banned for two months? - Oh NO!!, This bible stuff is complicated.... Think I'll just let Saints management deal with it the best way they see fit. notaclue

1:43pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason
go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason sasmike

1:47pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SouthLondonSaint wrote:
Osvaldo can F*ck off to inter for £15 mill and we can buy Hernandez for £15 mill... Makes sence to me he's young, quick, works hard, scores goals and is proven in the prem. Would he come to us??
No.
[quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo can F*ck off to inter for £15 mill and we can buy Hernandez for £15 mill... Makes sence to me he's young, quick, works hard, scores goals and is proven in the prem. Would he come to us??[/p][/quote]No. OSPREYSAINT

1:48pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

Voted no simply because we could not get a replacement that quickly and with Sharpe and Barnard out of the picture we would struggle with no adequate replacement for the 2nd half of the season. His price must be deflated by his antics and his lack of scoring power so we wouldn't recoup anywhere close to what we spent. However if we give him the chance to perhaps spend more time on the park than sat on the bench for the second half he has the chance to push his price back up and then sell him in the summer. My feelings are he has to go. Those running the club may think differently and we would have no choice but to go along with that decision and rant about it on here. Sure Poch knows best and still have faith in him to make it right in the end.
Voted no simply because we could not get a replacement that quickly and with Sharpe and Barnard out of the picture we would struggle with no adequate replacement for the 2nd half of the season. His price must be deflated by his antics and his lack of scoring power so we wouldn't recoup anywhere close to what we spent. However if we give him the chance to perhaps spend more time on the park than sat on the bench for the second half he has the chance to push his price back up and then sell him in the summer. My feelings are he has to go. Those running the club may think differently and we would have no choice but to go along with that decision and rant about it on here. Sure Poch knows best and still have faith in him to make it right in the end. jls217

1:48pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Adrian Smith* says...

Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
Dave Juson's 1 man campaign against the Echo continues! Id be more worried about why my employer had suspended me instead of anything else. If the DE is wrong, Im sure Dani will sue them and everyother newspaper or station that has said he headbutted Jose. The club probably told them all what happened.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]Dave Juson's 1 man campaign against the Echo continues! Id be more worried about why my employer had suspended me instead of anything else. If the DE is wrong, Im sure Dani will sue them and everyother newspaper or station that has said he headbutted Jose. The club probably told them all what happened. Adrian Smith*

1:49pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SouthLondonSaint wrote:
Osvaldo can F*ck off to inter for £15 mill and we can buy Hernandez for £15 mill... Makes sence to me he's young, quick, works hard, scores goals and is proven in the prem. Would he come to us??
No.
spot on,,,,,,,,, a true saint is ospreysaint
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo can F*ck off to inter for £15 mill and we can buy Hernandez for £15 mill... Makes sence to me he's young, quick, works hard, scores goals and is proven in the prem. Would he come to us??[/p][/quote]No.[/p][/quote]spot on,,,,,,,,, a true saint is ospreysaint sasmike

1:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SouthLondonSaint wrote:
Osvaldo can F*ck off to inter for £15 mill and we can buy Hernandez for £15 mill... Makes sence to me he's young, quick, works hard, scores goals and is proven in the prem. Would he come to us??
No.
Probably not and you're dreaming if you think we can recoup anywhere near 15m for our resident head banger.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo can F*ck off to inter for £15 mill and we can buy Hernandez for £15 mill... Makes sence to me he's young, quick, works hard, scores goals and is proven in the prem. Would he come to us??[/p][/quote]No.[/p][/quote]Probably not and you're dreaming if you think we can recoup anywhere near 15m for our resident head banger. jls217

1:52pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

saint christopher wrote:
If we had 2 or 3 other strikers regularly finding the net it would be a no-brainer providing we didn't lose too much. He hasn't yet fulfilled his obvious potential and is now a long long way from being part of that tightly knit team which is so essential to our way of playing.

But our only PL-class striker is currently J-Rod, and given that us getting a replacement striker for reasonable money is as unlikely as ManU winning the PL this year I cannot see the club offloading him at this stage.

More likely scenario is him being given a final shape up or get used to being a bench-warmer ultimatum, in the hope that he'll find redemption through fulfilling what he was paid for, and if not that we can get a good replacement later.
Sounds reasonable to me.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: If we had 2 or 3 other strikers regularly finding the net it would be a no-brainer providing we didn't lose too much. He hasn't yet fulfilled his obvious potential and is now a long long way from being part of that tightly knit team which is so essential to our way of playing. But our only PL-class striker is currently J-Rod, and given that us getting a replacement striker for reasonable money is as unlikely as ManU winning the PL this year I cannot see the club offloading him at this stage. More likely scenario is him being given a final shape up or get used to being a bench-warmer ultimatum, in the hope that he'll find redemption through fulfilling what he was paid for, and if not that we can get a good replacement later.[/p][/quote]Sounds reasonable to me. jls217

1:54pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

Winchester Saint wrote:
Poglong Perry wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Don't sell him It was an accident
If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!!
Yeah, not an accident. He had row with Fonte and everyone had seen what happened. That's why he was banned.
My client tripped your honour!
[quote][p][bold]Winchester Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Poglong Perry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Don't sell him It was an accident[/p][/quote]If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!![/p][/quote]Yeah, not an accident. He had row with Fonte and everyone had seen what happened. That's why he was banned.[/p][/quote]My client tripped your honour! jls217

1:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

Confucious wrote:
Sticks in my gullet somewhat, but offloading Dani would now seem wise - though I guess the club will need to play this carefully in order to try and recoup as much of the huge fee we paid as possible.

Coming to the UK for a fresh start was supposed to be the answer to his long track record of similar problems in Italy - and I think the club and the fans certainly gave that to him. But in just a little over half a season he's got two suspensions totalling six matches for attacking an opposition bench member and then attacking a team mate. There's no question of giving him a second chance since any further chance will actually be the sixth or seventh he's had.

It also isn't at all clear from what he's said that he really wants to change. In fact he seems to rather like that part of his nature. That's fine maybe for a rock star (which is maybe what he really wants to be) but not a professional footballer playing in a team sport in the world's toughest league.

If he was performing like Suarez then no doubt we'd chance it. But of course he isn't - and putting a loose cannon on the pitch seems a big risk to set against a small gain.

It also sets a p!ss poor example to the academy lads - especially those close to first team appearances.

I think what annoys me most about this is not that Dani is earning much more every week than most paying fans earn in a year - but that he doesn't seem to think himself very fortunate in this or have some sense of wanting to do his best to repay the club and supporters.

Having said all that, I'll go along with whatever MoPo decides.
The voice of reason.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Sticks in my gullet somewhat, but offloading Dani would now seem wise - though I guess the club will need to play this carefully in order to try and recoup as much of the huge fee we paid as possible. Coming to the UK for a fresh start was supposed to be the answer to his long track record of similar problems in Italy - and I think the club and the fans certainly gave that to him. But in just a little over half a season he's got two suspensions totalling six matches for attacking an opposition bench member and then attacking a team mate. There's no question of giving him a second chance since any further chance will actually be the sixth or seventh he's had. It also isn't at all clear from what he's said that he really wants to change. In fact he seems to rather like that part of his nature. That's fine maybe for a rock star (which is maybe what he really wants to be) but not a professional footballer playing in a team sport in the world's toughest league. If he was performing like Suarez then no doubt we'd chance it. But of course he isn't - and putting a loose cannon on the pitch seems a big risk to set against a small gain. It also sets a p!ss poor example to the academy lads - especially those close to first team appearances. I think what annoys me most about this is not that Dani is earning much more every week than most paying fans earn in a year - but that he doesn't seem to think himself very fortunate in this or have some sense of wanting to do his best to repay the club and supporters. Having said all that, I'll go along with whatever MoPo decides.[/p][/quote]The voice of reason. jls217

2:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

sasmike wrote:
go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason
Your lynch mob metality isn't helping your case, try putting it across without the abuse and maybe some will agree with you. You are as much a thug as Oz is accused of being.
[quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason[/p][/quote]Your lynch mob metality isn't helping your case, try putting it across without the abuse and maybe some will agree with you. You are as much a thug as Oz is accused of being. OSPREYSAINT

2:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Saint Madcap says...

If what we are hearing is true then it's not just a case of "handbags at dawn"
Danni obviously has, shall we say, "Problems" the Club must have known that when they bought him. The question is can his teammates work with him after this?
I say let the Manager manage the situation. He has our Team's best interests at heart. Trial by Newspaper is not the way to go.
Over to you Mo Po this is what you get paid for, I'm sure you will sort it one way or the other.
If what we are hearing is true then it's not just a case of "handbags at dawn" Danni obviously has, shall we say, "Problems" the Club must have known that when they bought him. The question is can his teammates work with him after this? I say let the Manager manage the situation. He has our Team's best interests at heart. Trial by Newspaper is not the way to go. Over to you Mo Po this is what you get paid for, I'm sure you will sort it one way or the other. Saint Madcap

2:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
sasmike wrote:
go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason
Your lynch mob metality isn't helping your case, try putting it across without the abuse and maybe some will agree with you. You are as much a thug as Oz is accused of being.
sorry missing letter again "mentality" of course.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason[/p][/quote]Your lynch mob metality isn't helping your case, try putting it across without the abuse and maybe some will agree with you. You are as much a thug as Oz is accused of being.[/p][/quote]sorry missing letter again "mentality" of course. OSPREYSAINT

2:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

What a bunch of idiots, who has voted yes? If Liverpool took this view with Suarez where would they be in the league now?
What a bunch of idiots, who has voted yes? If Liverpool took this view with Suarez where would they be in the league now? bigfella777

2:03pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Dave Juson says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob. Dave Juson

2:03pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint Madcap wrote:
If what we are hearing is true then it's not just a case of "handbags at dawn"
Danni obviously has, shall we say, "Problems" the Club must have known that when they bought him. The question is can his teammates work with him after this?
I say let the Manager manage the situation. He has our Team's best interests at heart. Trial by Newspaper is not the way to go.
Over to you Mo Po this is what you get paid for, I'm sure you will sort it one way or the other.
It has to be Pochs call, he has all the facts, we don't. What he decides on this one gets my full support.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Madcap[/bold] wrote: If what we are hearing is true then it's not just a case of "handbags at dawn" Danni obviously has, shall we say, "Problems" the Club must have known that when they bought him. The question is can his teammates work with him after this? I say let the Manager manage the situation. He has our Team's best interests at heart. Trial by Newspaper is not the way to go. Over to you Mo Po this is what you get paid for, I'm sure you will sort it one way or the other.[/p][/quote]It has to be Pochs call, he has all the facts, we don't. What he decides on this one gets my full support. OSPREYSAINT

2:07pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

therealredarmy wrote:
@sasmike

Any player who come to the EPL need at least a year to adapt to the physicality of the English game . Osvaldo need a year not 2 or 6 month, Yes that incident in staplewood look bad but do you know what happen yesterday so I don't think it's right to say taxi asap
Right up to this latest spat with him I would've agreed with your point. The club hired him to play football and the fans, most of us at least, would've given him his bedding in season. Thinking it's okay to nut one of your team mates especially in a position we are likely to struggle with between now and April is a forgiveness too far possibly. Taxi asap if we have a replacement - if not then persevere, play the man let him try to get his worth back and move him on in the summer. There are a great many strikers who can find the net more readily than him and the red mist a lot less readily than him. Good centre backs are at a premium.
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: @sasmike Any player who come to the EPL need at least a year to adapt to the physicality of the English game . Osvaldo need a year not 2 or 6 month, Yes that incident in staplewood look bad but do you know what happen yesterday so I don't think it's right to say taxi asap[/p][/quote]Right up to this latest spat with him I would've agreed with your point. The club hired him to play football and the fans, most of us at least, would've given him his bedding in season. Thinking it's okay to nut one of your team mates especially in a position we are likely to struggle with between now and April is a forgiveness too far possibly. Taxi asap if we have a replacement - if not then persevere, play the man let him try to get his worth back and move him on in the summer. There are a great many strikers who can find the net more readily than him and the red mist a lot less readily than him. Good centre backs are at a premium. jls217

2:08pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it. OSPREYSAINT

2:10pm Fri 24 Jan 14

lowe esteem says...

saint christopher wrote:
If we had 2 or 3 other strikers regularly finding the net it would be a no-brainer providing we didn't lose too much. He hasn't yet fulfilled his obvious potential and is now a long long way from being part of that tightly knit team which is so essential to our way of playing.

But our only PL-class striker is currently J-Rod, and given that us getting a replacement striker for reasonable money is as unlikely as ManU winning the PL this year I cannot see the club offloading him at this stage.

More likely scenario is him being given a final shape up or get used to being a bench-warmer ultimatum, in the hope that he'll find redemption through fulfilling what he was paid for, and if not that we can get a good replacement later.
Err, sorry SRL, my fellow fan appears to have 'missed' all that you do leading a PL forward line with distinction. Most of us notice-and that includes a grateful JRod -the selfless and manful job you put in, if only 'others' had stepped up to SHARE this workload. Cor Blimey, some people are so Mayaka (meant Myopic) aren't they?
SRL will be finding the net again soon, and 'others' can then continue to work their socks off for the team, and put a decent shift in.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: If we had 2 or 3 other strikers regularly finding the net it would be a no-brainer providing we didn't lose too much. He hasn't yet fulfilled his obvious potential and is now a long long way from being part of that tightly knit team which is so essential to our way of playing. But our only PL-class striker is currently J-Rod, and given that us getting a replacement striker for reasonable money is as unlikely as ManU winning the PL this year I cannot see the club offloading him at this stage. More likely scenario is him being given a final shape up or get used to being a bench-warmer ultimatum, in the hope that he'll find redemption through fulfilling what he was paid for, and if not that we can get a good replacement later.[/p][/quote]Err, sorry SRL, my fellow fan appears to have 'missed' all that you do leading a PL forward line with distinction. Most of us notice-and that includes a grateful JRod -the selfless and manful job you put in, if only 'others' had stepped up to SHARE this workload. Cor Blimey, some people are so Mayaka (meant Myopic) aren't they? SRL will be finding the net again soon, and 'others' can then continue to work their socks off for the team, and put a decent shift in. lowe esteem

2:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
sasmike wrote:
go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason
Your lynch mob metality isn't helping your case, try putting it across without the abuse and maybe some will agree with you. You are as much a thug as Oz is accused of being.
sorry missing letter again "mentality" of course.
the abuse was after receiving abuse,
I write my thoughts, am I wrong ?

he plays without a care
and headbutts his team mate
surely his one way taxi ride will arrive this month (please god)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason[/p][/quote]Your lynch mob metality isn't helping your case, try putting it across without the abuse and maybe some will agree with you. You are as much a thug as Oz is accused of being.[/p][/quote]sorry missing letter again "mentality" of course.[/p][/quote]the abuse was after receiving abuse, I write my thoughts, am I wrong ? he plays without a care and headbutts his team mate surely his one way taxi ride will arrive this month (please god) sasmike

2:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please? jls217

2:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

SFC4EVA says...

therealredarmy wrote:
@sasmike

Any player who come to the EPL need at least a year to adapt to the physicality of the English game . Osvaldo need a year not 2 or 6 month, Yes that incident in staplewood look bad but do you know what happen yesterday so I don't think it's right to say taxi asap
Drogba is a prime example. How was his first season?!
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: @sasmike Any player who come to the EPL need at least a year to adapt to the physicality of the English game . Osvaldo need a year not 2 or 6 month, Yes that incident in staplewood look bad but do you know what happen yesterday so I don't think it's right to say taxi asap[/p][/quote]Drogba is a prime example. How was his first season?! SFC4EVA

2:12pm Fri 24 Jan 14

St Mark says...

I have just been playing a game of 7 a side and one of our team (borrowed from another as we were short) punched one of the opposition in the face. There are no excuses for it, however, if you knew the little gob-**** he hit and what he had been doing all game to wind us up then at least you would have an explanation as to why he did that.

We don't know what happened at the training ground - we do know, however, that Osvaldo has form in this area. But in the end we can only make guesses and we ought to leave it to the management to sort out which they clearly are.

It is really annoying that he won't be able to play for us against Yeovil as I thought it would be a good chance for him to show us his worth - but now he has £$%£ed that up too. Stupid boy
I have just been playing a game of 7 a side and one of our team (borrowed from another as we were short) punched one of the opposition in the face. There are no excuses for it, however, if you knew the little gob-**** he hit and what he had been doing all game to wind us up then at least you would have an explanation as to why he did that. We don't know what happened at the training ground - we do know, however, that Osvaldo has form in this area. But in the end we can only make guesses and we ought to leave it to the management to sort out which they clearly are. It is really annoying that he won't be able to play for us against Yeovil as I thought it would be a good chance for him to show us his worth - but now he has £$%£ed that up too. Stupid boy St Mark

2:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
sasmike wrote:
go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason
Your lynch mob metality isn't helping your case, try putting it across without the abuse and maybe some will agree with you. You are as much a thug as Oz is accused of being.
Sorry sasmike, that didn't come across as I meant it, I meant that it gave the impression that you were being a thug, not that you actually are one, I don't know anything about you to make that accusation.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: go and join DJ in the temple and shut the fcuk up,, I guess you 2 twots don't go to st marys to see danny boys useless efforts. sure the club did not ban him for no justified reason[/p][/quote]Your lynch mob metality isn't helping your case, try putting it across without the abuse and maybe some will agree with you. You are as much a thug as Oz is accused of being.[/p][/quote]Sorry sasmike, that didn't come across as I meant it, I meant that it gave the impression that you were being a thug, not that you actually are one, I don't know anything about you to make that accusation. OSPREYSAINT

2:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

lowe esteem says...

Poglong Perry wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Don't sell him It was an accident
If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!!
You the bloke that leaves the theatre to go to the loo just as the stand up delivers the punch line?
[quote][p][bold]Poglong Perry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Don't sell him It was an accident[/p][/quote]If it was an accident why was he banned - muppet!![/p][/quote]You the bloke that leaves the theatre to go to the loo just as the stand up delivers the punch line? lowe esteem

2:15pm Fri 24 Jan 14

SFC4EVA says...

Rising_Son wrote:
alanstreet46 wrote:
Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.
What exactly is disgraceful about not being able to speak English?
Luke Shaw was asked on Twitter if MP will ever speak English. His reply was simply "he does".

Still don't get this hard-on that soooooo many people have over him speaking English to the media. WHO CARES!! I certainly don't. As long as he is communicating with the players and his point is getting through he could speak Martian for all I care.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanstreet46[/bold] wrote: Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.[/p][/quote]What exactly is disgraceful about not being able to speak English?[/p][/quote]Luke Shaw was asked on Twitter if MP will ever speak English. His reply was simply "he does". Still don't get this hard-on that soooooo many people have over him speaking English to the media. WHO CARES!! I certainly don't. As long as he is communicating with the players and his point is getting through he could speak Martian for all I care. SFC4EVA

2:16pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jls217 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?
Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?[/p][/quote]Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition. OSPREYSAINT

2:18pm Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@therealredarmy

Drogba, Henry, Ronaldo, Bergkamp, RVP, Van Nilsteroy all the great needed a year at least !
@therealredarmy Drogba, Henry, Ronaldo, Bergkamp, RVP, Van Nilsteroy all the great needed a year at least ! therealredarmy

2:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

SFC4EVA wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
alanstreet46 wrote:
Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.
What exactly is disgraceful about not being able to speak English?
Luke Shaw was asked on Twitter if MP will ever speak English. His reply was simply "he does".

Still don't get this hard-on that soooooo many people have over him speaking English to the media. WHO CARES!! I certainly don't. As long as he is communicating with the players and his point is getting through he could speak Martian for all I care.
Agreed - A truly great manager will let his first 11 do the talking for him on the pitch on a Saturday afternoon and that can be understood no matter what language the manager chooses.
[quote][p][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanstreet46[/bold] wrote: Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.[/p][/quote]What exactly is disgraceful about not being able to speak English?[/p][/quote]Luke Shaw was asked on Twitter if MP will ever speak English. His reply was simply "he does". Still don't get this hard-on that soooooo many people have over him speaking English to the media. WHO CARES!! I certainly don't. As long as he is communicating with the players and his point is getting through he could speak Martian for all I care.[/p][/quote]Agreed - A truly great manager will let his first 11 do the talking for him on the pitch on a Saturday afternoon and that can be understood no matter what language the manager chooses. jls217

2:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

therealredarmy wrote:
@therealredarmy

Drogba, Henry, Ronaldo, Bergkamp, RVP, Van Nilsteroy all the great needed a year at least !
cant remember this lot getting banned for head butting a team mate
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: @therealredarmy Drogba, Henry, Ronaldo, Bergkamp, RVP, Van Nilsteroy all the great needed a year at least ![/p][/quote]cant remember this lot getting banned for head butting a team mate sasmike

2:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Barnard to Southend on loan, good luck this time Lee, I hope it works out for you. If you want example of how a bad boy is still good, there you go.
Barnard to Southend on loan, good luck this time Lee, I hope it works out for you. If you want example of how a bad boy is still good, there you go. OSPREYSAINT

2:22pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Dave Juson says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?
Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.
At last, something I can relate to. Those sardine deserve everything they get!
But are the top competitors taking steroids? I've heard rumours.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?[/p][/quote]Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.[/p][/quote]At last, something I can relate to. Those sardine deserve everything they get! But are the top competitors taking steroids? I've heard rumours. Dave Juson

2:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Barnard to Southend on loan, good luck this time Lee, I hope it works out for you. If you want example of how a bad boy is still good, there you go.
to be fair he didn't smack his team/work mates
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Barnard to Southend on loan, good luck this time Lee, I hope it works out for you. If you want example of how a bad boy is still good, there you go.[/p][/quote]to be fair he didn't smack his team/work mates sasmike

2:32pm Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@sasmike

You right They never head-butted anybody but it took them a year to adapt to the EPL when you said that Osvaldo doesn't have the time because he earn 50k.
@sasmike You right They never head-butted anybody but it took them a year to adapt to the EPL when you said that Osvaldo doesn't have the time because he earn 50k. therealredarmy

2:41pm Fri 24 Jan 14

drkensta says...

Quite agree with letting the Manager handle the situation, but where is he? There has been no statement from him on this matter or his supposed meeting with the owner earlier in the week. Also, under the headline "Saints do not intend to replace injured duo" it said that Jesus Perez gave the statement in an interview. Why was the second team manager giving statements to the press on matters which are obviously first team matters?
Quite agree with letting the Manager handle the situation, but where is he? There has been no statement from him on this matter or his supposed meeting with the owner earlier in the week. Also, under the headline "Saints do not intend to replace injured duo" it said that Jesus Perez gave the statement in an interview. Why was the second team manager giving statements to the press on matters which are obviously first team matters? drkensta

2:49pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Little Hitler says...

This guy is 28 years old, not 18. He clearly has a screw loose, he will not change and therefore has to be let go.

£15m should have got us the finished article, not a pirate look-alike with anger management issues.
This guy is 28 years old, not 18. He clearly has a screw loose, he will not change and therefore has to be let go. £15m should have got us the finished article, not a pirate look-alike with anger management issues. Little Hitler

2:49pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

sasmike wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Barnard to Southend on loan, good luck this time Lee, I hope it works out for you. If you want example of how a bad boy is still good, there you go.
to be fair he didn't smack his team/work mates
We don't even know what he really did do to be honest, but it is all over and in the history books. Hopefully the Oz situation can have a decent solution that suits everyone, whether that will be kiss and make up, or taxi from the rear entrance, we are Southampton,we will just carry on. Keep the faith, priority is tomorrows game, I feel that defeat will be hard to take, we want everyone to be on the right track, onward and upwards, COYRs you can beat this lot, just do it.
[quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Barnard to Southend on loan, good luck this time Lee, I hope it works out for you. If you want example of how a bad boy is still good, there you go.[/p][/quote]to be fair he didn't smack his team/work mates[/p][/quote]We don't even know what he really did do to be honest, but it is all over and in the history books. Hopefully the Oz situation can have a decent solution that suits everyone, whether that will be kiss and make up, or taxi from the rear entrance, we are Southampton,we will just carry on. Keep the faith, priority is tomorrows game, I feel that defeat will be hard to take, we want everyone to be on the right track, onward and upwards, COYRs you can beat this lot, just do it. OSPREYSAINT

2:53pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Clemster says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?
Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.
I agree with Dave here. You say that he has an obvious issue with his temper - based on what?! You cannot give even an opinion if you do not know the proper facts.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?[/p][/quote]Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.[/p][/quote]I agree with Dave here. You say that he has an obvious issue with his temper - based on what?! You cannot give even an opinion if you do not know the proper facts. Clemster

2:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

drkensta wrote:
Quite agree with letting the Manager handle the situation, but where is he? There has been no statement from him on this matter or his supposed meeting with the owner earlier in the week. Also, under the headline "Saints do not intend to replace injured duo" it said that Jesus Perez gave the statement in an interview. Why was the second team manager giving statements to the press on matters which are obviously first team matters?
Jesus is the man in charge of the Cup games, that's why he is doing all of the talking during this period. He also speaks English, why are you complaining?
[quote][p][bold]drkensta[/bold] wrote: Quite agree with letting the Manager handle the situation, but where is he? There has been no statement from him on this matter or his supposed meeting with the owner earlier in the week. Also, under the headline "Saints do not intend to replace injured duo" it said that Jesus Perez gave the statement in an interview. Why was the second team manager giving statements to the press on matters which are obviously first team matters?[/p][/quote]Jesus is the man in charge of the Cup games, that's why he is doing all of the talking during this period. He also speaks English, why are you complaining? OSPREYSAINT

2:57pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

Little Hitler wrote:
This guy is 28 years old, not 18. He clearly has a screw loose, he will not change and therefore has to be let go.

£15m should have got us the finished article, not a pirate look-alike with anger management issues.
totally agree with your comments just need to add his lack of work rate
Danny is a waste of money and space
[quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: This guy is 28 years old, not 18. He clearly has a screw loose, he will not change and therefore has to be let go. £15m should have got us the finished article, not a pirate look-alike with anger management issues.[/p][/quote]totally agree with your comments just need to add his lack of work rate Danny is a waste of money and space sasmike

3:03pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Rising_Son says...

drkensta wrote:
Quite agree with letting the Manager handle the situation, but where is he? There has been no statement from him on this matter or his supposed meeting with the owner earlier in the week. Also, under the headline "Saints do not intend to replace injured duo" it said that Jesus Perez gave the statement in an interview. Why was the second team manager giving statements to the press on matters which are obviously first team matters?
We haven't got a 2nd team.
[quote][p][bold]drkensta[/bold] wrote: Quite agree with letting the Manager handle the situation, but where is he? There has been no statement from him on this matter or his supposed meeting with the owner earlier in the week. Also, under the headline "Saints do not intend to replace injured duo" it said that Jesus Perez gave the statement in an interview. Why was the second team manager giving statements to the press on matters which are obviously first team matters?[/p][/quote]We haven't got a 2nd team. Rising_Son

3:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

If he wrecks the camaraderie that is part of our Southampton team ethic he goes….

..however everyone is allowed a second chance..

...HE has to make it up to the team..

.. HE has to be contrite and really really mean it when HE apologizes to Fonte.

In short it's not up to the poll or us it is up to HIM:
If he wrecks the camaraderie that is part of our Southampton team ethic he goes…. ..however everyone is allowed a second chance.. ...HE has to make it up to the team.. .. HE has to be contrite and really really mean it when HE apologizes to Fonte. In short it's not up to the poll or us it is up to HIM: warrens 76

3:10pm Fri 24 Jan 14

spratt says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
I can't see the club wasting the investment.
they need to find a way through this and so does Osvaldo.

Needs to direct his frustration/aggressi

on/whatever into playing the game rather than taking it out on team mates.
I take everything being said in the media with a pinch of salt - Yes there was clearly an incident which the club needed to do something about.
And the club did the right thing by posting that statement immediately.

It's easy to just say 'get rid' when you personally haven't spent £15million on something.
but the right thing to do is try to achieve redemption and get the player playing which is, after all, what you spent the money for. So you get some sort of return on the investment - if we all saw that, think most of us would be happy.
Yes I would agree with this post if were not for the extensive PAST HISTORY I was very surprised to read of in another thread. From what we have seen of him so far he is nowhere near worth the money spent on him. If this latest event any thing to go by a positive liability.
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: I can't see the club wasting the investment. they need to find a way through this and so does Osvaldo. Needs to direct his frustration/aggressi on/whatever into playing the game rather than taking it out on team mates. I take everything being said in the media with a pinch of salt - Yes there was clearly an incident which the club needed to do something about. And the club did the right thing by posting that statement immediately. It's easy to just say 'get rid' when you personally haven't spent £15million on something. but the right thing to do is try to achieve redemption and get the player playing which is, after all, what you spent the money for. So you get some sort of return on the investment - if we all saw that, think most of us would be happy.[/p][/quote]Yes I would agree with this post if were not for the extensive PAST HISTORY I was very surprised to read of in another thread. From what we have seen of him so far he is nowhere near worth the money spent on him. If this latest event any thing to go by a positive liability. spratt

3:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@sasmike

You really don't like Osvaldo !
@sasmike You really don't like Osvaldo ! therealredarmy

3:15pm Fri 24 Jan 14

likewatchingbrazil says...

loz-sfc wrote:
Sell him, cut their losses on this hot head. Invest in in someone who wants to play, just a thought...Hernandez is looking to move on, the same price as Ozvaldo and he scores plenty!!!!
spot on
[quote][p][bold]loz-sfc[/bold] wrote: Sell him, cut their losses on this hot head. Invest in in someone who wants to play, just a thought...Hernandez is looking to move on, the same price as Ozvaldo and he scores plenty!!!![/p][/quote]spot on likewatchingbrazil

3:24pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

therealredarmy wrote:
@sasmike

You really don't like Osvaldo !
ha ha whatever makes you think that
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: @sasmike You really don't like Osvaldo ![/p][/quote]ha ha whatever makes you think that sasmike

3:31pm Fri 24 Jan 14

therealredarmy says...

@sasmike

When I looked at your previous post they all are against Osvaldo. Taxi for him, Il drive him to the airport !!. He still our player mate yes he's crazy but let's support him during difficult time .
@sasmike When I looked at your previous post they all are against Osvaldo. Taxi for him, Il drive him to the airport !!. He still our player mate yes he's crazy but let's support him during difficult time . therealredarmy

3:32pm Fri 24 Jan 14

SnapperSaint says...

It's not as if we didn't know what he was like before we bought him and MoPo thought he would be able to control him, like he had before.
So as I said on the other thread yesterday, this guy should get some time with an anger management shrink and fast, it's not as if they cant afford to get the best available on the job is it...
Whatever the details of the story are, he sounds like he has a problem that needs help... However, if Joey Barton is anything to go by, then it might be too ingrained in his DNA to get it resolved.
The other thing is, Osvaldo could now become a target for baiting during a match to see if they can get him sent off. Overall, he could become a bit of a liability...
It's not as if we didn't know what he was like before we bought him and MoPo thought he would be able to control him, like he had before. So as I said on the other thread yesterday, this guy should get some time with an anger management shrink and fast, it's not as if they cant afford to get the best available on the job is it... Whatever the details of the story are, he sounds like he has a problem that needs help... However, if Joey Barton is anything to go by, then it might be too ingrained in his DNA to get it resolved. The other thing is, Osvaldo could now become a target for baiting during a match to see if they can get him sent off. Overall, he could become a bit of a liability... SnapperSaint

3:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

therealredarmy wrote:
@sasmike

When I looked at your previous post they all are against Osvaldo. Taxi for him, Il drive him to the airport !!. He still our player mate yes he's crazy but let's support him during difficult time .
sorry I would never support a lazy overpaid useless head case . I have difficult times (on far less than 50k a week) but I do my work and don't go round head butting people if I am stressed...........
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: @sasmike When I looked at your previous post they all are against Osvaldo. Taxi for him, Il drive him to the airport !!. He still our player mate yes he's crazy but let's support him during difficult time .[/p][/quote]sorry I would never support a lazy overpaid useless head case . I have difficult times (on far less than 50k a week) but I do my work and don't go round head butting people if I am stressed........... sasmike

3:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Velleity says...

alanstreet46 wrote:
Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.
ODFO
[quote][p][bold]alanstreet46[/bold] wrote: Chipster says that Osvaldo "has had long enough to adapt to life in the PL". True Indeed, even longer than the manager whose ill-judged decision it was to bring him in, and talking of MP when is HE (capitals for emphasis, not to denote divine status) going to adjust to life in England. I find it a disgrace that he either can't or won't speak English in his post-match interviews (MoTD). If he can't, then he should be provided with intensive tuition; if the latter, then he should be given an ultimatum and told that he's got to follow all of the foreign PL managers who are able to make themselves understood well enoughh. Not only would this be a good thing in itself but it would help reinforce the perception that he's at St Marys to stay.[/p][/quote]ODFO Velleity

4:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

george chivers says...

Don't sell him now. Get his head right. Get him playing again and scoring until the end of the season. Then sell him when his price has gone back up.

He's 27/28 and behaving like a combination of Lee Cattermole and Joey Barton. There's no hope for him at that age, his head is in a permanent cloud of red mist. Add some value to him and get shot of him. He's a long way from Suarez in terms of pace and ability and an even longer way from being a Saint.
Don't sell him now. Get his head right. Get him playing again and scoring until the end of the season. Then sell him when his price has gone back up. He's 27/28 and behaving like a combination of Lee Cattermole and Joey Barton. There's no hope for him at that age, his head is in a permanent cloud of red mist. Add some value to him and get shot of him. He's a long way from Suarez in terms of pace and ability and an even longer way from being a Saint. george chivers

4:16pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Rising_Son says...

george chivers wrote:
Don't sell him now. Get his head right. Get him playing again and scoring until the end of the season. Then sell him when his price has gone back up.

He's 27/28 and behaving like a combination of Lee Cattermole and Joey Barton. There's no hope for him at that age, his head is in a permanent cloud of red mist. Add some value to him and get shot of him. He's a long way from Suarez in terms of pace and ability and an even longer way from being a Saint.
If there's no hope for him, why do you hope that we can get him playing well again?
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: Don't sell him now. Get his head right. Get him playing again and scoring until the end of the season. Then sell him when his price has gone back up. He's 27/28 and behaving like a combination of Lee Cattermole and Joey Barton. There's no hope for him at that age, his head is in a permanent cloud of red mist. Add some value to him and get shot of him. He's a long way from Suarez in terms of pace and ability and an even longer way from being a Saint.[/p][/quote]If there's no hope for him, why do you hope that we can get him playing well again? Rising_Son

4:22pm Fri 24 Jan 14

redsnapper says...

Lets hope KL doesn't ever see some of the cr*p written in these blogs otherwise she might think all supporters are kneejerk loons.
This is a club matter, dealt with expedience and correctly so. Time will tell if Dani O. works out for us and moves on but te same sort of negatives eing applied to Gaston are way off the mark. Recently IMHO he has been looking good a worth his place.

Now moaners, whingers ad the trolls please shut up and support the Saints.
Two must win games coming up and if we do it the season is looking great again

COYR --put Yeovil in their place and then get the headlines in our favour on Wednesday morning by derailing the Gunners.

Is it too much to ask for....
Lets hope KL doesn't ever see some of the cr*p written in these blogs otherwise she might think all supporters are kneejerk loons. This is a club matter, dealt with expedience and correctly so. Time will tell if Dani O. works out for us and moves on but te same sort of negatives eing applied to Gaston are way off the mark. Recently IMHO he has been looking good a worth his place. Now moaners, whingers ad the trolls please shut up and support the Saints. Two must win games coming up and if we do it the season is looking great again COYR --put Yeovil in their place and then get the headlines in our favour on Wednesday morning by derailing the Gunners. Is it too much to ask for.... redsnapper

4:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Football is a game of love, passion and loyalty.
It’s a great debate on here today on this subject of loyalty to the team with so many new poster voices expressing their opinions, keep it up boys.
One question though, where the feck were you lot chewing the fat with us when we were struggling in league 1.
OspreySaint may be boring, but in his defence he has been boring us since League 1.

Enjoy the game against Yeovil everyone, they are bringing a following as if it is their cup final. COYR!
Football is a game of love, passion and loyalty. It’s a great debate on here today on this subject of loyalty to the team with so many new poster voices expressing their opinions, keep it up boys. One question though, where the feck were you lot chewing the fat with us when we were struggling in league 1. OspreySaint may be boring, but in his defence he has been boring us since League 1. Enjoy the game against Yeovil everyone, they are bringing a following as if it is their cup final. COYR! Mush On The Beach

4:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
how dare you bring a reasonable attitude to this debate!
Sorry, Strops, I'll try to remember only to post straight after arriving home from a drive round the Strasbourg ring road, that seems to bring out the reactionary hothead in me :)
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'[/p][/quote]how dare you bring a reasonable attitude to this debate![/p][/quote]Sorry, Strops, I'll try to remember only to post straight after arriving home from a drive round the Strasbourg ring road, that seems to bring out the reactionary hothead in me :) Strasbourg Saint

4:38pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

willygetaway wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
Good polls always have the Don't know option!
quite right, I for 1 am getting a little pee,d off the the D E sh*t stirring, or am i the only one to notice this ??? I support the MIghty Saints thick or Thin COYR
Have to agree with you both, but last time I saw you, Willy (@Norwich), you weren't very thin :)
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'[/p][/quote]Good polls always have the Don't know option![/p][/quote]quite right, I for 1 am getting a little pee,d off the the D E sh*t stirring, or am i the only one to notice this ??? I support the MIghty Saints thick or Thin COYR[/p][/quote]Have to agree with you both, but last time I saw you, Willy (@Norwich), you weren't very thin :) Strasbourg Saint

4:42pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
What he has or hasn't done on the pitch shouldn't enter into it. Out of interest (and realising it's hard to imagine) what would your response be if it were Rickie who had been suspended for two weeks?
[quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]What he has or hasn't done on the pitch shouldn't enter into it. Out of interest (and realising it's hard to imagine) what would your response be if it were Rickie who had been suspended for two weeks? Strasbourg Saint

4:48pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

If you can have a look at the Twitter #Saintsfc, it has an instagram pic and a message from Jose. Doesn't look like a broken nose but certainly bruising around left eye. He says it won't stop him playing.
If you can have a look at the Twitter #Saintsfc, it has an instagram pic and a message from Jose. Doesn't look like a broken nose but certainly bruising around left eye. He says it won't stop him playing. OSPREYSAINT

5:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

sasmike says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
What he has or hasn't done on the pitch shouldn't enter into it. Out of interest (and realising it's hard to imagine) what would your response be if it were Rickie who had been suspended for two weeks?
Depends if he was making an effort on the pitch,,,, no effort + head butting a team (mate) = TAXI
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]What he has or hasn't done on the pitch shouldn't enter into it. Out of interest (and realising it's hard to imagine) what would your response be if it were Rickie who had been suspended for two weeks?[/p][/quote]Depends if he was making an effort on the pitch,,,, no effort + head butting a team (mate) = TAXI sasmike

5:09pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clemster wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?
Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.
I agree with Dave here. You say that he has an obvious issue with his temper - based on what?! You cannot give even an opinion if you do not know the proper facts.
Oi, Dave, leave Portuguese Sardine Racing alone. Give it time, it'll be an Olympic sport. The French are still fuming that the IOC threw out their attempts to get Petanque included, but then, unlike Portuguese Sardine Racing, Petanque's a load of balls.

(Sorry tout le monde, just trying to lighten the mood on here this evening.)
[quote][p][bold]Clemster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?[/p][/quote]Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.[/p][/quote]I agree with Dave here. You say that he has an obvious issue with his temper - based on what?! You cannot give even an opinion if you do not know the proper facts.[/p][/quote]Oi, Dave, leave Portuguese Sardine Racing alone. Give it time, it'll be an Olympic sport. The French are still fuming that the IOC threw out their attempts to get Petanque included, but then, unlike Portuguese Sardine Racing, Petanque's a load of balls. (Sorry tout le monde, just trying to lighten the mood on here this evening.) Strasbourg Saint

5:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
If he wrecks the camaraderie that is part of our Southampton team ethic he goes….

..however everyone is allowed a second chance..

...HE has to make it up to the team..

.. HE has to be contrite and really really mean it when HE apologizes to Fonte.

In short it's not up to the poll or us it is up to HIM:
... and Poch.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: If he wrecks the camaraderie that is part of our Southampton team ethic he goes…. ..however everyone is allowed a second chance.. ...HE has to make it up to the team.. .. HE has to be contrite and really really mean it when HE apologizes to Fonte. In short it's not up to the poll or us it is up to HIM:[/p][/quote]... and Poch. OSPREYSAINT

5:17pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

sasmike wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
sasmike wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !!
What he has or hasn't done on the pitch shouldn't enter into it. Out of interest (and realising it's hard to imagine) what would your response be if it were Rickie who had been suspended for two weeks?
Depends if he was making an effort on the pitch,,,, no effort + head butting a team (mate) = TAXI
No it doesn't, that's the point. All disciplinary/miscond
uct issues should be dealt with alike. If you do a fantastic job (and I'm sure you do) and the guy next to you is a lazy, work-shy waster (and he probably is), and you're both caught with your hands in the till, you shouldn't be treated any differently than your useless colleague. You should both be treated fairly and disciplined equally.
[quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sasmike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]think your missing the point,, his useless efforts on the pitch and now a training ground incident (that must be true as the club have banned him) has brought this to a head ... taxi ASAP please !![/p][/quote]What he has or hasn't done on the pitch shouldn't enter into it. Out of interest (and realising it's hard to imagine) what would your response be if it were Rickie who had been suspended for two weeks?[/p][/quote]Depends if he was making an effort on the pitch,,,, no effort + head butting a team (mate) = TAXI[/p][/quote]No it doesn't, that's the point. All disciplinary/miscond uct issues should be dealt with alike. If you do a fantastic job (and I'm sure you do) and the guy next to you is a lazy, work-shy waster (and he probably is), and you're both caught with your hands in the till, you shouldn't be treated any differently than your useless colleague. You should both be treated fairly and disciplined equally. Strasbourg Saint

5:18pm Fri 24 Jan 14

poshdave says...

..........time to get rid, ..he's been pants so far, hasn't shown any promise.......both him and Ramirez big big waste of money...........
..........time to get rid, ..he's been pants so far, hasn't shown any promise.......both him and Ramirez big big waste of money........... poshdave

5:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clemster wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?
Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.
I agree with Dave here. You say that he has an obvious issue with his temper - based on what?! You cannot give even an opinion if you do not know the proper facts.
Oi, Dave, leave Portuguese Sardine Racing alone. Give it time, it'll be an Olympic sport. The French are still fuming that the IOC threw out their attempts to get Petanque included, but then, unlike Portuguese Sardine Racing, Petanque's a load of balls.

(Sorry tout le monde, just trying to lighten the mood on here this evening.)
I always thought it was called Boule? I thought Petanque was the sound that the balls made when they landed on someones foot.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clemster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?[/p][/quote]Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.[/p][/quote]I agree with Dave here. You say that he has an obvious issue with his temper - based on what?! You cannot give even an opinion if you do not know the proper facts.[/p][/quote]Oi, Dave, leave Portuguese Sardine Racing alone. Give it time, it'll be an Olympic sport. The French are still fuming that the IOC threw out their attempts to get Petanque included, but then, unlike Portuguese Sardine Racing, Petanque's a load of balls. (Sorry tout le monde, just trying to lighten the mood on here this evening.)[/p][/quote]I always thought it was called Boule? I thought Petanque was the sound that the balls made when they landed on someones foot. OSPREYSAINT

5:22pm Fri 24 Jan 14

SFCOLDBOY says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
how dare you bring a reasonable attitude to this debate!
Sorry, Strops, I'll try to remember only to post straight after arriving home from a drive round the Strasbourg ring road, that seems to bring out the reactionary hothead in me :)
I did it once Stras,that will be the last time too.
COYS
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'[/p][/quote]how dare you bring a reasonable attitude to this debate![/p][/quote]Sorry, Strops, I'll try to remember only to post straight after arriving home from a drive round the Strasbourg ring road, that seems to bring out the reactionary hothead in me :)[/p][/quote]I did it once Stras,that will be the last time too. COYS SFCOLDBOY

5:37pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

There's no excuse for his actions and on the face of it it looks bad. Dani came to the club with some baggage which goes against him, so as a club we can't say that we weren't taking a gamble considering his previous tom foolery and his price tag. To say get shot of him is understandable but when you consider the money we spent on him and the short time he's been with us, it's not that straight forward, I mean the guy hasn't even unboxed his stuff yet! And none of us know the ins & outs of the matter, best for the fans to let the club deal with the matter as they know exactly what happened!
There's no excuse for his actions and on the face of it it looks bad. Dani came to the club with some baggage which goes against him, so as a club we can't say that we weren't taking a gamble considering his previous tom foolery and his price tag. To say get shot of him is understandable but when you consider the money we spent on him and the short time he's been with us, it's not that straight forward, I mean the guy hasn't even unboxed his stuff yet! And none of us know the ins & outs of the matter, best for the fans to let the club deal with the matter as they know exactly what happened! Marchwood Malcom

6:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clemster wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?
Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.
I agree with Dave here. You say that he has an obvious issue with his temper - based on what?! You cannot give even an opinion if you do not know the proper facts.
Oi, Dave, leave Portuguese Sardine Racing alone. Give it time, it'll be an Olympic sport. The French are still fuming that the IOC threw out their attempts to get Petanque included, but then, unlike Portuguese Sardine Racing, Petanque's a load of balls.

(Sorry tout le monde, just trying to lighten the mood on here this evening.)
I always thought it was called Boule? I thought Petanque was the sound that the balls made when they landed on someones foot.
No, Osprey, when a Petanque ball lands on someone's foot, the sounds one usually hears are, 'ooo la la!!' and 'MERDE ALOR!!!' If it were possible to hear a gallic shrug, that would be the third sound and the fourth would be the clinking of wine glasses.

Did you know that, until the '70s, many French people didn't work on Friday afternoons? Many still don't. That's why you can still find lots of wine-induced petanque being played from noon on Fridays. The French wine industry would literally collapse if all the French tried to put in a shift every Friday afternoon.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clemster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?[/p][/quote]Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.[/p][/quote]I agree with Dave here. You say that he has an obvious issue with his temper - based on what?! You cannot give even an opinion if you do not know the proper facts.[/p][/quote]Oi, Dave, leave Portuguese Sardine Racing alone. Give it time, it'll be an Olympic sport. The French are still fuming that the IOC threw out their attempts to get Petanque included, but then, unlike Portuguese Sardine Racing, Petanque's a load of balls. (Sorry tout le monde, just trying to lighten the mood on here this evening.)[/p][/quote]I always thought it was called Boule? I thought Petanque was the sound that the balls made when they landed on someones foot.[/p][/quote]No, Osprey, when a Petanque ball lands on someone's foot, the sounds one usually hears are, 'ooo la la!!' and 'MERDE ALOR!!!' If it were possible to hear a gallic shrug, that would be the third sound and the fourth would be the clinking of wine glasses. Did you know that, until the '70s, many French people didn't work on Friday afternoons? Many still don't. That's why you can still find lots of wine-induced petanque being played from noon on Fridays. The French wine industry would literally collapse if all the French tried to put in a shift every Friday afternoon. Strasbourg Saint

6:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Blackknight says...

Leave it to MoPo to sort. If he stays he needs to up his game and amend his attitude, if he goes let's hope Saints can re-coup their investment.
Leave it to MoPo to sort. If he stays he needs to up his game and amend his attitude, if he goes let's hope Saints can re-coup their investment. Blackknight

6:07pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mikesugar says...

Looks like he is on his way transfer listed usually means thanks but no thanks COYS!!!!!!!
Looks like he is on his way transfer listed usually means thanks but no thanks COYS!!!!!!! mikesugar

6:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

warrens 76 says...

Blackknight wrote:
Leave it to MoPo to sort. If he stays he needs to up his game and amend his attitude, if he goes let's hope Saints can re-coup their investment.
personally i think MoPo's attitude is fine.
[quote][p][bold]Blackknight[/bold] wrote: Leave it to MoPo to sort. If he stays he needs to up his game and amend his attitude, if he goes let's hope Saints can re-coup their investment.[/p][/quote]personally i think MoPo's attitude is fine. warrens 76

6:19pm Fri 24 Jan 14

justaSaintsfan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.
Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.[/p][/quote]Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic! justaSaintsfan

6:26pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
how dare you bring a reasonable attitude to this debate!
Sorry, Strops, I'll try to remember only to post straight after arriving home from a drive round the Strasbourg ring road, that seems to bring out the reactionary hothead in me :)
I did it once Stras,that will be the last time too.
COYS
I've taken to driving the long way home via the docks, Oldboy. The trouble here is that everyone thinks they're related to - and therefore have the shared blood of - local rally driving hero Sebastien Loeb.
[quote][p][bold]SFCOLDBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'[/p][/quote]how dare you bring a reasonable attitude to this debate![/p][/quote]Sorry, Strops, I'll try to remember only to post straight after arriving home from a drive round the Strasbourg ring road, that seems to bring out the reactionary hothead in me :)[/p][/quote]I did it once Stras,that will be the last time too. COYS[/p][/quote]I've taken to driving the long way home via the docks, Oldboy. The trouble here is that everyone thinks they're related to - and therefore have the shared blood of - local rally driving hero Sebastien Loeb. Strasbourg Saint

6:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

saintbobby says...

I despair at times. I am late on this one but I really cannot read all these posts about this really bad situation.

Some defend him - unbelievable, others say get rid - well done!

Just ask yourself what would happen if you took a pot at one of your work colleagues. You might be lucky but you also might be shown the door.

Apart from that, the guy has not settled and has done NOTHING!

However, I am not going to judge and agree that whatever MP decides will get my support. COYR!! Forever!
I despair at times. I am late on this one but I really cannot read all these posts about this really bad situation. Some defend him - unbelievable, others say get rid - well done! Just ask yourself what would happen if you took a pot at one of your work colleagues. You might be lucky but you also might be shown the door. Apart from that, the guy has not settled and has done NOTHING! However, I am not going to judge and agree that whatever MP decides will get my support. COYR!! Forever! saintbobby

6:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

southwest saint says...

I think the club should sack him. We have to send a clear message out that this kind of behaviour is totally unacceptable.
I think the club should sack him. We have to send a clear message out that this kind of behaviour is totally unacceptable. southwest saint

7:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

saintbobby wrote:
I despair at times. I am late on this one but I really cannot read all these posts about this really bad situation.

Some defend him - unbelievable, others say get rid - well done!

Just ask yourself what would happen if you took a pot at one of your work colleagues. You might be lucky but you also might be shown the door.

Apart from that, the guy has not settled and has done NOTHING!

However, I am not going to judge and agree that whatever MP decides will get my support. COYR!! Forever!
I haven't read anybody defend him. people have said that its now down to the club, players, manager etc. to decide what to do, and if THEY decide that he can come back then he will be supported (just as you have said).
yes if you did this at your work you will probably be sacked, however it is very difficult to sack a footballer.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I despair at times. I am late on this one but I really cannot read all these posts about this really bad situation. Some defend him - unbelievable, others say get rid - well done! Just ask yourself what would happen if you took a pot at one of your work colleagues. You might be lucky but you also might be shown the door. Apart from that, the guy has not settled and has done NOTHING! However, I am not going to judge and agree that whatever MP decides will get my support. COYR!! Forever![/p][/quote]I haven't read anybody defend him. people have said that its now down to the club, players, manager etc. to decide what to do, and if THEY decide that he can come back then he will be supported (just as you have said). yes if you did this at your work you will probably be sacked, however it is very difficult to sack a footballer. el caballo santos101

7:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.
Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic!
I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta!
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.[/p][/quote]Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic![/p][/quote]I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta! OSPREYSAINT

7:33pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mack chinnon says...

I see Justin Bieber has been on the lash. Good boy.
I see Justin Bieber has been on the lash. Good boy. mack chinnon

7:37pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Well, you (i.e. Cortese) paid 15.1 million Euro for this muppet, plus "bonuses" of up to a further 2 million Euro:
http://www.asroma.it
/pdf/corporate/opera
zioni_di_mercato/201
3_-08_-_18_osvaldo.p
df

You gave him a 4 year contract, of which there are 3.5 years left, so even if he does not play, he will continue to cream you for £75,000 a week for the remainder of that time.

Unless you can sell him. But players nowadays NEVER move club for a cut in wages , so which club will now pay him £75,000 a week? And even if they are willing to give him that contract, how much would they pay you for him in a transfer fee?

As we found, a long-term contract for a player can be a liability as well as an asset.
Well, you (i.e. Cortese) paid 15.1 million Euro for this muppet, plus "bonuses" of up to a further 2 million Euro: http://www.asroma.it /pdf/corporate/opera zioni_di_mercato/201 3_-08_-_18_osvaldo.p df You gave him a 4 year contract, of which there are 3.5 years left, so even if he does not play, he will continue to cream you for £75,000 a week for the remainder of that time. Unless you can sell him. But players nowadays NEVER move club for a cut in wages [as we found to our cost], so which club will now pay him £75,000 a week? And even if they are willing to give him that contract, how much would they pay you for him in a transfer fee? As we found, a long-term contract for a player can be a liability as well as an asset. Skating on thin ice

7:41pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Never mind, Katharina has appointed the talented Austrian football agent Josef Lenhart to your Board of Directors. I am sure he can step in and bring his skills to bear to resolve the situation.

What's that? His appointment as a Director of the Club was terminated within 24 hours? Ooh dear!

You can check the facts for yourselves with the official club documents available on the Companies House website. FACT.
Never mind, Katharina has appointed the talented Austrian football agent Josef Lenhart to your Board of Directors. I am sure he can step in and bring his skills to bear to resolve the situation. What's that? His appointment as a Director of the Club was terminated within 24 hours? Ooh dear! You can check the facts for yourselves with the official club documents available on the Companies House website. FACT. Skating on thin ice

7:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Skating on thin ice says...

While you are on the Companies House website, you can also read the documents concerning the mortgage of your ground to the Vibrac Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which was the security required for the advance loan of this season's Sky TV money.

FACT.
While you are on the Companies House website, you can also read the documents concerning the mortgage of your ground to the Vibrac Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which was the security required for the advance loan of this season's Sky TV money. FACT. Skating on thin ice

8:15pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Skating on thin ice says...

The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis.

I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.
The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis. I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS. Skating on thin ice

8:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis.

I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.
The fact that you are a pathetic skunt Muppet might have some bearing on it.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis. I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.[/p][/quote]The fact that you are a pathetic skunt Muppet might have some bearing on it. Clever Dick

8:36pm Fri 24 Jan 14

willygetaway says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'
Good polls always have the Don't know option!
quite right, I for 1 am getting a little pee,d off the the D E sh*t stirring, or am i the only one to notice this ??? I support the MIghty Saints thick or Thin COYR
Have to agree with you both, but last time I saw you, Willy (@Norwich), you weren't very thin :)
AHHH things change as you will find out next time we meet lol : - )
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Can anyone help, in the vote, I'm looking for the button which says: 'I'm happy to let those in charge decide. They know best and will take any action based on the facts to hand.'[/p][/quote]Good polls always have the Don't know option![/p][/quote]quite right, I for 1 am getting a little pee,d off the the D E sh*t stirring, or am i the only one to notice this ??? I support the MIghty Saints thick or Thin COYR[/p][/quote]Have to agree with you both, but last time I saw you, Willy (@Norwich), you weren't very thin :)[/p][/quote]AHHH things change as you will find out next time we meet lol : - ) willygetaway

8:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis.

I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.
The fact that you are a pathetic skunt Muppet might have some bearing on it.
FACT?

8-)
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis. I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.[/p][/quote]The fact that you are a pathetic skunt Muppet might have some bearing on it.[/p][/quote]FACT? 8-) Skating on thin ice

9:10pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?
Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.
At last, something I can relate to. Those sardine deserve everything they get!
But are the top competitors taking steroids? I've heard rumours.
Smells a bit fishy to me!
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]Have they started that racing again? I was great at that last year. Where do we register our sticklebacks for this please?[/p][/quote]Did you notice what a poor spell of whether we are having? Why not International Sardine Racing, more competition.[/p][/quote]At last, something I can relate to. Those sardine deserve everything they get! But are the top competitors taking steroids? I've heard rumours.[/p][/quote]Smells a bit fishy to me! jls217

9:48pm Fri 24 Jan 14

justaSaintsfan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.
Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic!
I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta!
What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta!
P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.[/p][/quote]Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic![/p][/quote]I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta![/p][/quote]What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta! P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts! justaSaintsfan

10:09pm Fri 24 Jan 14

jls217 says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.
Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic!
I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta!
What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta!
P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts!
And peace reigns o'er all the earth. I've had a drink and will have another in a minute and dog mi kaming lla tros of simkates.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.[/p][/quote]Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic![/p][/quote]I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta![/p][/quote]What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta! P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts![/p][/quote]And peace reigns o'er all the earth. I've had a drink and will have another in a minute and dog mi kaming lla tros of simkates. jls217

10:15pm Fri 24 Jan 14

St. Case says...

DE, these polls are pointless, as it's the club who make the decisions. Whatever the fans vote for here will not affect MP. If Fonte has accepted an apology, the squad will accept it too. These things happen in training, and there are numerous examples from around the world of players blowing a fuse in training, and things going back to normal. We all knew Dani was a hot head when he came here, but MP obviously thinks he can control him.
DE, these polls are pointless, as it's the club who make the decisions. Whatever the fans vote for here will not affect MP. If Fonte has accepted an apology, the squad will accept it too. These things happen in training, and there are numerous examples from around the world of players blowing a fuse in training, and things going back to normal. We all knew Dani was a hot head when he came here, but MP obviously thinks he can control him. St. Case

10:22pm Fri 24 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.
Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic!
I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta!
What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta!
P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts!
get a room you two!
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.[/p][/quote]Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic![/p][/quote]I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta![/p][/quote]What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta! P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts![/p][/quote]get a room you two! el caballo santos101

10:23pm Fri 24 Jan 14

saintkenny says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis.

I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.
The fact that you are a pathetic skunt Muppet might have some bearing on it.
FACT?

8-)
IF WE HAVE A CASH FLOW CRISIS ITS STILL UNDWER HALF OF WHAT POMPYS WAGE BILL WAS YOU SEEM TO FOR GET WERE JUST POINTS FROM ANOTHER 160M NEXT SEASON COMING IN WE HAVE NO CRISIS WE TOOK LOANS TO COVER 40 INDOOR PITCHES AT STAPLEWOOD TRAINING CENTER FURTHER ADDING TO THE CLUB ASSETS NOW 130M WITH THE STADIUM AND THE TRAINING GROUND THIS IS WHAT YOU SPEND CASH ON NOT ON A SILLY WAGE BILL THAT YOUR STILL PAYING TILL 2016 ,BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN YOUR BETTER RIVALS .WHO CAN COMPETE OFF THE PITCH AT TOP LEVEL YOU CANT .AND KATH LIEBHER KNOWS IT THATS WY SHE WONT SELL UP.SIMPLE CLEAR FACT
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis. I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.[/p][/quote]The fact that you are a pathetic skunt Muppet might have some bearing on it.[/p][/quote]FACT? 8-)[/p][/quote]IF WE HAVE A CASH FLOW CRISIS ITS STILL UNDWER HALF OF WHAT POMPYS WAGE BILL WAS YOU SEEM TO FOR GET WERE JUST POINTS FROM ANOTHER 160M NEXT SEASON COMING IN WE HAVE NO CRISIS WE TOOK LOANS TO COVER 40 INDOOR PITCHES AT STAPLEWOOD TRAINING CENTER FURTHER ADDING TO THE CLUB ASSETS NOW 130M WITH THE STADIUM AND THE TRAINING GROUND THIS IS WHAT YOU SPEND CASH ON NOT ON A SILLY WAGE BILL THAT YOUR STILL PAYING TILL 2016 ,BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN YOUR BETTER RIVALS .WHO CAN COMPETE OFF THE PITCH AT TOP LEVEL YOU CANT .AND KATH LIEBHER KNOWS IT THATS WY SHE WONT SELL UP.SIMPLE CLEAR FACT saintkenny

10:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

southwest saint says...

therealredarmy wrote:
People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's !
I agree we don't know the facts. One fact does though remain and that is he is still under suspension for violent conduct at Newcastle. Fining him £40,000 and suspending him says that whatever happened in Newcastle was a serious offence.

He gets around £60,000 per week to play for us. Surely to earn that kind of money you need to be someone special. On the rare occasions when he hasn't been suspended or injured he hasn't looked that great with the exception of his goal against man. city. In that same game though you may remember that he couldn't even hit the target from just in front of goal.
Not good enough and a thug to go with it. Get rid of him.
[quote][p][bold]therealredarmy[/bold] wrote: People saying get rid, loan him out or he need professional help really how can you judge when you don't know what happen maybe Fonte instigate the fight no one knows what happening in Staplewood so please hold your horses and move on to the next game. The Echo is not helping with their article they need to pipe down no wonder they are banned from Saint Mary's ![/p][/quote]I agree we don't know the facts. One fact does though remain and that is he is still under suspension for violent conduct at Newcastle. Fining him £40,000 and suspending him says that whatever happened in Newcastle was a serious offence. He gets around £60,000 per week to play for us. Surely to earn that kind of money you need to be someone special. On the rare occasions when he hasn't been suspended or injured he hasn't looked that great with the exception of his goal against man. city. In that same game though you may remember that he couldn't even hit the target from just in front of goal. Not good enough and a thug to go with it. Get rid of him. southwest saint

10:54pm Fri 24 Jan 14

southwest saint says...

St. Case wrote:
DE, these polls are pointless, as it's the club who make the decisions. Whatever the fans vote for here will not affect MP. If Fonte has accepted an apology, the squad will accept it too. These things happen in training, and there are numerous examples from around the world of players blowing a fuse in training, and things going back to normal. We all knew Dani was a hot head when he came here, but MP obviously thinks he can control him.
Have you forgotten that he is still under suspension for violent conduct at Newcastle?
he is a thug and should be sacked.
he get paid £60, 000 per week for doing what exactly. Show him the door sooner rather than later.
[quote][p][bold]St. Case[/bold] wrote: DE, these polls are pointless, as it's the club who make the decisions. Whatever the fans vote for here will not affect MP. If Fonte has accepted an apology, the squad will accept it too. These things happen in training, and there are numerous examples from around the world of players blowing a fuse in training, and things going back to normal. We all knew Dani was a hot head when he came here, but MP obviously thinks he can control him.[/p][/quote]Have you forgotten that he is still under suspension for violent conduct at Newcastle? he is a thug and should be sacked. he get paid £60, 000 per week for doing what exactly. Show him the door sooner rather than later. southwest saint

10:57pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.
Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic!
I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta!
What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta!
P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts!
Sorry bud, you got the wrong end of the stick, nothing personal, my reference to "abuse" was general, not aimed at any particular individual. I appreciated the drink quip, and the other posts. Sorry if I gave you grief, not intentional, just chill and blitz the critics.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.[/p][/quote]Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic![/p][/quote]I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta![/p][/quote]What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta! P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts![/p][/quote]Sorry bud, you got the wrong end of the stick, nothing personal, my reference to "abuse" was general, not aimed at any particular individual. I appreciated the drink quip, and the other posts. Sorry if I gave you grief, not intentional, just chill and blitz the critics. OSPREYSAINT

10:59pm Fri 24 Jan 14

southwest saint says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I despair at times. I am late on this one but I really cannot read all these posts about this really bad situation.

Some defend him - unbelievable, others say get rid - well done!

Just ask yourself what would happen if you took a pot at one of your work colleagues. You might be lucky but you also might be shown the door.

Apart from that, the guy has not settled and has done NOTHING!

However, I am not going to judge and agree that whatever MP decides will get my support. COYR!! Forever!
I haven't read anybody defend him. people have said that its now down to the club, players, manager etc. to decide what to do, and if THEY decide that he can come back then he will be supported (just as you have said).
yes if you did this at your work you will probably be sacked, however it is very difficult to sack a footballer.
Why is it difficult to sack a footballer? It is high time we stop making excuses for them.
He is a poor investment and appears to be making very little effort to change the situation.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I despair at times. I am late on this one but I really cannot read all these posts about this really bad situation. Some defend him - unbelievable, others say get rid - well done! Just ask yourself what would happen if you took a pot at one of your work colleagues. You might be lucky but you also might be shown the door. Apart from that, the guy has not settled and has done NOTHING! However, I am not going to judge and agree that whatever MP decides will get my support. COYR!! Forever![/p][/quote]I haven't read anybody defend him. people have said that its now down to the club, players, manager etc. to decide what to do, and if THEY decide that he can come back then he will be supported (just as you have said). yes if you did this at your work you will probably be sacked, however it is very difficult to sack a footballer.[/p][/quote]Why is it difficult to sack a footballer? It is high time we stop making excuses for them. He is a poor investment and appears to be making very little effort to change the situation. southwest saint

11:03pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis.

I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.
It's because you do it on here and nobody likes you, fact.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis. I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.[/p][/quote]It's because you do it on here and nobody likes you, fact. OSPREYSAINT

11:05pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintkenny wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis.

I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.
The fact that you are a pathetic skunt Muppet might have some bearing on it.
FACT?

8-)
IF WE HAVE A CASH FLOW CRISIS ITS STILL UNDWER HALF OF WHAT POMPYS WAGE BILL WAS YOU SEEM TO FOR GET WERE JUST POINTS FROM ANOTHER 160M NEXT SEASON COMING IN WE HAVE NO CRISIS WE TOOK LOANS TO COVER 40 INDOOR PITCHES AT STAPLEWOOD TRAINING CENTER FURTHER ADDING TO THE CLUB ASSETS NOW 130M WITH THE STADIUM AND THE TRAINING GROUND THIS IS WHAT YOU SPEND CASH ON NOT ON A SILLY WAGE BILL THAT YOUR STILL PAYING TILL 2016 ,BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN YOUR BETTER RIVALS .WHO CAN COMPETE OFF THE PITCH AT TOP LEVEL YOU CANT .AND KATH LIEBHER KNOWS IT THATS WY SHE WONT SELL UP.SIMPLE CLEAR FACT
Now that's what I call justified shouting. TU saintkenny.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: The reason that an advance loan of this season's TV money was required, was to ease the club's cash-flow crisis. I really can't understand why people keep giving me the thumbs down, when I spend so much time researching and posting FACTS.[/p][/quote]The fact that you are a pathetic skunt Muppet might have some bearing on it.[/p][/quote]FACT? 8-)[/p][/quote]IF WE HAVE A CASH FLOW CRISIS ITS STILL UNDWER HALF OF WHAT POMPYS WAGE BILL WAS YOU SEEM TO FOR GET WERE JUST POINTS FROM ANOTHER 160M NEXT SEASON COMING IN WE HAVE NO CRISIS WE TOOK LOANS TO COVER 40 INDOOR PITCHES AT STAPLEWOOD TRAINING CENTER FURTHER ADDING TO THE CLUB ASSETS NOW 130M WITH THE STADIUM AND THE TRAINING GROUND THIS IS WHAT YOU SPEND CASH ON NOT ON A SILLY WAGE BILL THAT YOUR STILL PAYING TILL 2016 ,BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN YOUR BETTER RIVALS .WHO CAN COMPETE OFF THE PITCH AT TOP LEVEL YOU CANT .AND KATH LIEBHER KNOWS IT THATS WY SHE WONT SELL UP.SIMPLE CLEAR FACT[/p][/quote]Now that's what I call justified shouting. TU saintkenny. OSPREYSAINT

11:07pm Fri 24 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jls217 wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
justaSaintsfan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Juson wrote:
This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense.
How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you?
Hang your heads in shame!
You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.
An opinion based on what?
Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere.
You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.
No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.
Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic!
I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta!
What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta!
P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts!
And peace reigns o'er all the earth. I've had a drink and will have another in a minute and dog mi kaming lla tros of simkates.
Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: This is ridiculous. Nobody outside Southampton Football Club knows what went on. If this “incident” had been referred to the criminal justice system the Echo would be breaking the law by running a poll. As it is, they are in contempt of natural justice; good manners; decorum and common sense. How many of those of you who have voted would want to be judged by what the Southern Daily Echo has published about you? Hang your heads in shame![/p][/quote]You would rather we weren't given the opportunity to air our opinions then? A bit sanctimonious of you, in my opinion.[/p][/quote]An opinion based on what? Why not rant on about and vote on wheather Portuguese Sardine Racing should be banned? You know just as much about that as any "alleged headbutt" anywhere. You are employing the reasoning of a lynch mob.[/p][/quote]No sir, I am against the lynch mob mentality, that is why I want to see reasoned discussion, without the stupid hang him at dawn mentality, how dare you bring fish related stuff into this thread, got nothing to do with it. I only know what I have read, I have seen no side of the argument from Osvaldo at all, how can you judge without it.[/p][/quote]Good point, sir! On a lighter note, Ospers, have you been indulging in alcohic beverages rather early in the day? It's most unlike you to use a full stop instead of a question mark at the end of your question! Happy drinking! Hic![/p][/quote]I haven't touched a drop, I am just a dopey old codger who is making more mistakes every day, ignor the errors just look at my diatribe and discuss the rights and the wrongs, without abuse, that's all I desire. Ta![/p][/quote]What abuse, Ospers? Not only did I compliment you most respectfully on the very good point you had made, I even complimented you again on the fact that it's most unlike you to make an error in your diatribe! My question as to whether or not you had been drinking was just a lighthearted question, merely me pulling your leg! A question is just a question, not abuse, particularly as I agree that you haven't been drinking! The only person calling you a dopey old codger is yourself, which is allowed! Everyone has the capability to be dopey at times, including me! And we all make grammatical errors and "typos" when posting to this forum, not helped by the predictive text on our devices, so why don't we all ignore the errors and confine our comments to the rights or wrongs of someone's diatribe? Ta! P.S. Is that really all you desire? You're surely not past it, as is regularly demonstrated in your high quality, often very amusing posts![/p][/quote]And peace reigns o'er all the earth. I've had a drink and will have another in a minute and dog mi kaming lla tros of simkates.[/p][/quote]Cheers. OSPREYSAINT

11:25pm Fri 24 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

southwest saint wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
saintbobby wrote:
I despair at times. I am late on this one but I really cannot read all these posts about this really bad situation.

Some defend him - unbelievable, others say get rid - well done!

Just ask yourself what would happen if you took a pot at one of your work colleagues. You might be lucky but you also might be shown the door.

Apart from that, the guy has not settled and has done NOTHING!

However, I am not going to judge and agree that whatever MP decides will get my support. COYR!! Forever!
I haven't read anybody defend him. people have said that its now down to the club, players, manager etc. to decide what to do, and if THEY decide that he can come back then he will be supported (just as you have said).
yes if you did this at your work you will probably be sacked, however it is very difficult to sack a footballer.
Why is it difficult to sack a footballer? It is high time we stop making excuses for them.
He is a poor investment and appears to be making very little effort to change the situation.
its hard to sack a footballer because the PFA/FA want it that way, players are protected because of what could have happened at poopey, a team gets into financial strife and the first thing they would look to do is cut the wage bill, if you can sack 10 players on £50k a week and bring in another 10 on £5k a week you've made massive savings. the PF are probably the most powerful union in the country and will go on strike if a club tied it. players contracts are also protected to stop this by the FA. a player can only be sacked for serious misconduct, breaking the law/imprisonment or drug taking, I think Chelsea sacked bosnich for being caught taking drugs. you may argue that what Dani did was serious misconduct, however as you may have read on her, or know, there are many examples of footballers attacking teammates and not being sacked, so it would be a hard case to argue.
I know the mirror or mail might have said that Dani was still suspended from the Newcastle incident and that's where you may have got that from, but his suspension ended after the last game, so he could have played on Saturday if not for this. you also don't know how much he is being paid, the press might like to think they do but they don't.
[quote][p][bold]southwest saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: I despair at times. I am late on this one but I really cannot read all these posts about this really bad situation. Some defend him - unbelievable, others say get rid - well done! Just ask yourself what would happen if you took a pot at one of your work colleagues. You might be lucky but you also might be shown the door. Apart from that, the guy has not settled and has done NOTHING! However, I am not going to judge and agree that whatever MP decides will get my support. COYR!! Forever![/p][/quote]I haven't read anybody defend him. people have said that its now down to the club, players, manager etc. to decide what to do, and if THEY decide that he can come back then he will be supported (just as you have said). yes if you did this at your work you will probably be sacked, however it is very difficult to sack a footballer.[/p][/quote]Why is it difficult to sack a footballer? It is high time we stop making excuses for them. He is a poor investment and appears to be making very little effort to change the situation.[/p][/quote]its hard to sack a footballer because the PFA/FA want it that way, players are protected because of what could have happened at poopey, a team gets into financial strife and the first thing they would look to do is cut the wage bill, if you can sack 10 players on £50k a week and bring in another 10 on £5k a week you've made massive savings. the PF are probably the most powerful union in the country and will go on strike if a club tied it. players contracts are also protected to stop this by the FA. a player can only be sacked for serious misconduct, breaking the law/imprisonment or drug taking, I think Chelsea sacked bosnich for being caught taking drugs. you may argue that what Dani did was serious misconduct, however as you may have read on her, or know, there are many examples of footballers attacking teammates and not being sacked, so it would be a hard case to argue. I know the mirror or mail might have said that Dani was still suspended from the Newcastle incident and that's where you may have got that from, but his suspension ended after the last game, so he could have played on Saturday if not for this. you also don't know how much he is being paid, the press might like to think they do but they don't. el caballo santos101

2:16am Sat 25 Jan 14

SaintinCanada says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
While you are on the Companies House website, you can also read the documents concerning the mortgage of your ground to the Vibrac Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which was the security required for the advance loan of this season's Sky TV money.

FACT.
Give us the mortgage FACTS please.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: While you are on the Companies House website, you can also read the documents concerning the mortgage of your ground to the Vibrac Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which was the security required for the advance loan of this season's Sky TV money. FACT.[/p][/quote]Give us the mortgage FACTS please. SaintinCanada

10:10am Sat 25 Jan 14

jls217 says...

SaintinCanada wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
While you are on the Companies House website, you can also read the documents concerning the mortgage of your ground to the Vibrac Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which was the security required for the advance loan of this season's Sky TV money.

FACT.
Give us the mortgage FACTS please.
Skating on thick ****. You are without a doubt one of the most interesting people posting on here - please continue to do so. Also keep looking for these most interesting facts on Southamptons financial wellbeing - we are enthralled. Looking forward to the next day you've wasted - you have to be something really exciting like an accountant or a lollypop man, or even an 'elf and safety inspector! Will not close my computor down again until I've seen your next installment. Thank you for all of your efforts and your so productive life. Once again humble gratitude to you.
[quote][p][bold]SaintinCanada[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: While you are on the Companies House website, you can also read the documents concerning the mortgage of your ground to the Vibrac Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which was the security required for the advance loan of this season's Sky TV money. FACT.[/p][/quote]Give us the mortgage FACTS please.[/p][/quote]Skating on thick ****. You are without a doubt one of the most interesting people posting on here - please continue to do so. Also keep looking for these most interesting facts on Southamptons financial wellbeing - we are enthralled. Looking forward to the next day you've wasted - you have to be something really exciting like an accountant or a lollypop man, or even an 'elf and safety inspector! Will not close my computor down again until I've seen your next installment. Thank you for all of your efforts and your so productive life. Once again humble gratitude to you. jls217

7:17pm Sat 25 Jan 14

saintkenny says...

SaintinCanada wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
While you are on the Companies House website, you can also read the documents concerning the mortgage of your ground to the Vibrac Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which was the security required for the advance loan of this season's Sky TV money.

FACT.
Give us the mortgage FACTS please.
note the stadium is paid for .we dont need to loan money .we do that off of liebhers then pay them back ,they dont pay for anything at the club just loan which they just did for staplewood .there is no such loan to the virgin islands and we do not need the tv money early we are not in a situation like portsmouth you trying to compare just getting 17.000 gates we get 32.000 twice pompeys average and are wage bill also is half of portsmouths premier league wage bill .you really are a desperate fan clutching at straws .the only bit of debt we may have next annual will be nc and the pay off .and the last one we were in credit .you had now 14 seasons now from the championship under redknapp till now in debt .must me frustrating for you trying to hope your better rivals go that way .but we built assets to amount debt not a players wage bill .so we have now have massive assets .and not wasted millions on players wages and players agents .enjoy many seasons in the lower leagues nothing more than the club deserves the way it was run
[quote][p][bold]SaintinCanada[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: While you are on the Companies House website, you can also read the documents concerning the mortgage of your ground to the Vibrac Corporation of the British Virgin Islands, which was the security required for the advance loan of this season's Sky TV money. FACT.[/p][/quote]Give us the mortgage FACTS please.[/p][/quote]note the stadium is paid for .we dont need to loan money .we do that off of liebhers then pay them back ,they dont pay for anything at the club just loan which they just did for staplewood .there is no such loan to the virgin islands and we do not need the tv money early we are not in a situation like portsmouth you trying to compare just getting 17.000 gates we get 32.000 twice pompeys average and are wage bill also is half of portsmouths premier league wage bill .you really are a desperate fan clutching at straws .the only bit of debt we may have next annual will be nc and the pay off .and the last one we were in credit .you had now 14 seasons now from the championship under redknapp till now in debt .must me frustrating for you trying to hope your better rivals go that way .but we built assets to amount debt not a players wage bill .so we have now have massive assets .and not wasted millions on players wages and players agents .enjoy many seasons in the lower leagues nothing more than the club deserves the way it was run saintkenny

3:11am Thu 30 Jan 14

tissier77 says...

these things happen in football done it myself in park football if you were top of the league would you ban one of your best players or win the league i know what i would do win the league if you work somewhere you don t say who you will work with or that you love everyone your paid to do a job .iwould put him back in the team as captain
these things happen in football done it myself in park football if you were top of the league would you ban one of your best players or win the league i know what i would do win the league if you work somewhere you don t say who you will work with or that you love everyone your paid to do a job .iwould put him back in the team as captain tissier77

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