'Unlucky' Webb to take charge of Saints' first post-Clattengate league game

Basingstoke Gazette: HOWARD WEBB HOWARD WEBB

WORLD Cup final referee Howard Webb will take charge of Saints’ first post-Clattengate league game against West Brom this Saturday.

Webb will be the first man to officiate a Saints league match since the Mark Clattenburg controversy broke prior to last weekend’s FA Cup win over Burnley.

And, unlike with Clattenburg, Saints have no ‘previous’ with regards to Webb, who didn’t make a single caution in his only Saints game this season - at Norwich in August.

He is an unlucky omen, though, Saints having never won when he has taken charge of a Premier League game involving the club.

Daily Echo research shows Saints have had more players booked by Clattenburg than any other Premier League referee since the club returned to the top flight.

In seven league games, he has dished out 18 bookings - including one to Adam Lallana during the now infamous meeting at Goodison Park on December 29.

That statistic possibly goes some way to explaining why Saints contacted referees chief Mike Riley in the aftermath of the loss at Everton to complain about Clattenburg’s comments to Lallana.

The Saints skipper’s booking at Goodison was only his fourth in 54 league and cup games since the start of 2012/13 - and Clattenburg is responsible for two of those.

The next highest in the list of referees that have booked most Saints players is Martin Atkinson, who has cautioned eight Saints in four games.

In contrast, Webb has only cautioned two Saints players in three league games in the same period.

Webb has only handed out 50 bookings and no red cards in his 18 domestic games this season.

In contrast, he has booked 24 players and sent off one in just six World Cup and Champions League matches.

Webb has one of the best records in terms of keeping his cards in his pocket this season among Premier League refs.

Only two officials can better his record of 2.8 yellows per domestic match in 2013/14.

Clattenburg, meanwhile, is only the eighth highest.

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7:09am Wed 8 Jan 14

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

Goes from bad to worst !!!
Goes from bad to worst !!! CHARLIE TAYLOR

7:31am Wed 8 Jan 14

cleversaint says...

This is the ref we have only got 2 draws from and lost the rest and failed to give us a nailed on penalty against Norwich away this season. oh joy!
This is the ref we have only got 2 draws from and lost the rest and failed to give us a nailed on penalty against Norwich away this season. oh joy! cleversaint

8:09am Wed 8 Jan 14

petethephantom says...

what do you expect
a ref is a ref is a ref is a ref

would you expect favours from him or clattenburg or any other ref
I hope not, I just hope is fair and consistent for both teams
what do you expect a ref is a ref is a ref is a ref would you expect favours from him or clattenburg or any other ref I hope not, I just hope is fair and consistent for both teams petethephantom

8:28am Wed 8 Jan 14

costa gaz says...

Another one who believes he is an A-List celebrity.
Another of the untouchables who never make mistakes and never have to answer any criticism.
Yet any manager or player dare to question their decisions is brought before the FA and punished.
The FA massage their ego's so much they think they are perfect and the game needs them more than it needs footballers.
Watch him take centre stage on Saturday whilst leading both teams out like an all conquering gladiator.... I am surprised any of this elite group has not been knighted yet.
Another one who believes he is an A-List celebrity. Another of the untouchables who never make mistakes and never have to answer any criticism. Yet any manager or player dare to question their decisions is brought before the FA and punished. The FA massage their ego's so much they think they are perfect and the game needs them more than it needs footballers. Watch him take centre stage on Saturday whilst leading both teams out like an all conquering gladiator.... I am surprised any of this elite group has not been knighted yet. costa gaz

8:44am Wed 8 Jan 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

move on from clattenburg DE - everyone else has.

The only thing the team need to do is keep getting goals - play well enough, score enough goals and the ref doesn't matter.
move on from clattenburg DE - everyone else has. The only thing the team need to do is keep getting goals - play well enough, score enough goals and the ref doesn't matter. Stroppy_gramps

9:11am Wed 8 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

petethephantom wrote:
what do you expect
a ref is a ref is a ref is a ref

would you expect favours from him or clattenburg or any other ref
I hope not, I just hope is fair and consistent for both teams
I don't think any of us are asking for favours from Webb or Cretinburk just fairness and consistency as you say, but the stats above suggest this is not the case.
[quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: what do you expect a ref is a ref is a ref is a ref would you expect favours from him or clattenburg or any other ref I hope not, I just hope is fair and consistent for both teams[/p][/quote]I don't think any of us are asking for favours from Webb or Cretinburk just fairness and consistency as you say, but the stats above suggest this is not the case. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

9:21am Wed 8 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

He, to my knowledge has only made one controversial decision against us, the one at Norwich, the other games where we have lost were against teams that were better than us on the day, hardly the Referees fault. Hopefully with the current circumstances going on, players and Officials will be on their best behaviour and fair play can only be good for the game.
He, to my knowledge has only made one controversial decision against us, the one at Norwich, the other games where we have lost were against teams that were better than us on the day, hardly the Referees fault. Hopefully with the current circumstances going on, players and Officials will be on their best behaviour and fair play can only be good for the game. OSPREYSAINT

9:59am Wed 8 Jan 14

Beer Monster says...

We will win, I'm not travelling 500 miles to see us lose courtesy of a load of superstitious mumbo jumbo.

COYR
We will win, I'm not travelling 500 miles to see us lose courtesy of a load of superstitious mumbo jumbo. COYR Beer Monster

10:19am Wed 8 Jan 14

St Retford says...

I think we only need to start worrying if West Brom get a new manager before the weekend. If they do we'll almost certainly lose. If not, we should absolutely rip them apart.

The fixture list is looking a little easier for the next few weeks - it's time to start climbing that table again. Believe.
I think we only need to start worrying if West Brom get a new manager before the weekend. If they do we'll almost certainly lose. If not, we should absolutely rip them apart. The fixture list is looking a little easier for the next few weeks - it's time to start climbing that table again. Believe. St Retford

11:06am Wed 8 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

If the F.A. let the REF s get away with stupid DECISIONS & COMMENTS then its them that need to LOOK very closely , as English football will be a J O K E
If the F.A. let the REF s get away with stupid DECISIONS & COMMENTS then its them that need to LOOK very closely , as English football will be a J O K E SPIKEISLANDTRADER

11:15am Wed 8 Jan 14

Saintsnumbers says...

There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly.

Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up.

As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies......

Chill!
There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly. Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up. As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies...... Chill! Saintsnumbers

11:32am Wed 8 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/25
647570

This could get interesting?
http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/25 647570 This could get interesting? OSPREYSAINT

11:44am Wed 8 Jan 14

Confucious says...

It will take me at least a year to solve this problem.

I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability.

Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable.

Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year.

Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.
It will take me at least a year to solve this problem. I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability. Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable. Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year. Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode. Confucious

12:02pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Saintsnumbers wrote:
There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly.

Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up.

As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies......

Chill!
That is bullocks. Clattenburg was obviously not going to upset Everton again after effectively being banned from reffing them for the last 6 years. It could have been any team that suffered as a result. It happened to be us. We are and always have been perceived as a soft touch for refs. As I have said before, that is the club's reason for the complaint. It is a signal that we are not going to take it laying down any more.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsnumbers[/bold] wrote: There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly. Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up. As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies...... Chill![/p][/quote]That is bullocks. Clattenburg was obviously not going to upset Everton again after effectively being banned from reffing them for the last 6 years. It could have been any team that suffered as a result. It happened to be us. We are and always have been perceived as a soft touch for refs. As I have said before, that is the club's reason for the complaint. It is a signal that we are not going to take it laying down any more. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

12:08pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Saintsnumbers wrote:
There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly.

Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up.

As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies......

Chill!
That is bullocks. Clattenburg was obviously not going to upset Everton again after effectively being banned from reffing them for the last 6 years. It could have been any team that suffered as a result. It happened to be us. We are and always have been perceived as a soft touch for refs. As I have said before, that is the club's reason for the complaint. It is a signal that we are not going to take it laying down any more.
that and Clatts history with us. Him more than anyone thinks he can do what he likes against us precisely because he thinks we don't matter and whatever he does isn't going to affect his career
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsnumbers[/bold] wrote: There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly. Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up. As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies...... Chill![/p][/quote]That is bullocks. Clattenburg was obviously not going to upset Everton again after effectively being banned from reffing them for the last 6 years. It could have been any team that suffered as a result. It happened to be us. We are and always have been perceived as a soft touch for refs. As I have said before, that is the club's reason for the complaint. It is a signal that we are not going to take it laying down any more.[/p][/quote]that and Clatts history with us. Him more than anyone thinks he can do what he likes against us precisely because he thinks we don't matter and whatever he does isn't going to affect his career Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

12:54pm Wed 8 Jan 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Saintsnumbers wrote:
There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly.

Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up.

As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies......

Chill!
That is bullocks. Clattenburg was obviously not going to upset Everton again after effectively being banned from reffing them for the last 6 years. It could have been any team that suffered as a result. It happened to be us. We are and always have been perceived as a soft touch for refs. As I have said before, that is the club's reason for the complaint. It is a signal that we are not going to take it laying down any more.
that and Clatts history with us. Him more than anyone thinks he can do what he likes against us precisely because he thinks we don't matter and whatever he does isn't going to affect his career
Also do you really think that certain players cards aren't marked prior to games? joey barton gets booked when other would get a warning and sent off when others booked. there are also players who have a `reputation` for diving, bale last year was book for diving when others wouldn't have been.
if a players perceived reputation is known and used by different refs then why cant a clubs? refs knew we were a `soft touch` and thy could get away with not giving, what they may think 50/50, decisions for us. can you imagine the uproar from manre players if clutterbrain hadn't given that handball penalty to them? he would have been chased all over they park with lots of players shouting all sorts at him, with their faces contorted with anger . instead he got lalla asking why he didn't give it in, what would be considered in football, a polite manner. for this clutterbrain decides that lalla has become a `big time Charlie`, who would never have behaved like that before he played for England, and then books him. so the ref used personal opinion about a player to book him. do you think that's fair and proper?
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsnumbers[/bold] wrote: There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly. Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up. As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies...... Chill![/p][/quote]That is bullocks. Clattenburg was obviously not going to upset Everton again after effectively being banned from reffing them for the last 6 years. It could have been any team that suffered as a result. It happened to be us. We are and always have been perceived as a soft touch for refs. As I have said before, that is the club's reason for the complaint. It is a signal that we are not going to take it laying down any more.[/p][/quote]that and Clatts history with us. Him more than anyone thinks he can do what he likes against us precisely because he thinks we don't matter and whatever he does isn't going to affect his career[/p][/quote]Also do you really think that certain players cards aren't marked prior to games? joey barton gets booked when other would get a warning and sent off when others booked. there are also players who have a `reputation` for diving, bale last year was book for diving when others wouldn't have been. if a players perceived reputation is known and used by different refs then why cant a clubs? refs knew we were a `soft touch` and thy could get away with not giving, what they may think 50/50, decisions for us. can you imagine the uproar from manre players if clutterbrain hadn't given that handball penalty to them? he would have been chased all over they park with lots of players shouting all sorts at him, with their faces contorted with anger . instead he got lalla asking why he didn't give it in, what would be considered in football, a polite manner. for this clutterbrain decides that lalla has become a `big time Charlie`, who would never have behaved like that before he played for England, and then books him. so the ref used personal opinion about a player to book him. do you think that's fair and proper? el caballo santos101

12:54pm Wed 8 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
petethephantom wrote:
what do you expect
a ref is a ref is a ref is a ref

would you expect favours from him or clattenburg or any other ref
I hope not, I just hope is fair and consistent for both teams
I don't think any of us are asking for favours from Webb or Cretinburk just fairness and consistency as you say, but the stats above suggest this is not the case.
Precisely. Webb is cut from the same cloth as Cretinburk - he is self important enough to exercise too much judgement in situations when its cut and dried and all he should be doing is applying the rules. And that judgement is open to all sorts of influences hence so many dodgy decisions. The only referee of any worth was that bald headed Luigi fellow - jut got on with refereeing the football match .
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: what do you expect a ref is a ref is a ref is a ref would you expect favours from him or clattenburg or any other ref I hope not, I just hope is fair and consistent for both teams[/p][/quote]I don't think any of us are asking for favours from Webb or Cretinburk just fairness and consistency as you say, but the stats above suggest this is not the case.[/p][/quote]Precisely. Webb is cut from the same cloth as Cretinburk - he is self important enough to exercise too much judgement in situations when its cut and dried and all he should be doing is applying the rules. And that judgement is open to all sorts of influences hence so many dodgy decisions. The only referee of any worth was that bald headed Luigi fellow - jut got on with refereeing the football match . right back in the bar

1:01pm Wed 8 Jan 14

st1halo says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/25

647570

This could get interesting?
I suppose it could be an argument for the 'things even themselves out' brigade. I hate Man U but they do seem to be on the wrong end of some harsh decisions lately, How many years have they been on the right end though.

I certanly don't remember a season where so many awful ref decisions have been so apparent.

STID
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/25 647570 This could get interesting?[/p][/quote]I suppose it could be an argument for the 'things even themselves out' brigade. I hate Man U but they do seem to be on the wrong end of some harsh decisions lately, How many years have they been on the right end though. I certanly don't remember a season where so many awful ref decisions have been so apparent. STID st1halo

1:26pm Wed 8 Jan 14

red&whitemachine says...

Confucious wrote:
It will take me at least a year to solve this problem.

I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability.

Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable.

Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year.

Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.
Good idea. Perhaps you could equip Horace with a Dalek-like Death Ray to deal with any player who gives him any lip, or vapourise any opposing manager he just does not like much.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It will take me at least a year to solve this problem. I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability. Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable. Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year. Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.[/p][/quote]Good idea. Perhaps you could equip Horace with a Dalek-like Death Ray to deal with any player who gives him any lip, or vapourise any opposing manager he just does not like much. red&whitemachine

1:58pm Wed 8 Jan 14

tarquin farquharson says...

I am not surprised we have never won a game with him in charge. Awful referee, very overated. I remember him giving a penalty against us at SMS - I think it was the year we went down - when no-one in the ground, crowd, players of either team knew what it is was for. The replays did not show anything. It was a complete case of an overactive imagination on his part. And could have contributed to our relegation.
I am not surprised we have never won a game with him in charge. Awful referee, very overated. I remember him giving a penalty against us at SMS - I think it was the year we went down - when no-one in the ground, crowd, players of either team knew what it is was for. The replays did not show anything. It was a complete case of an overactive imagination on his part. And could have contributed to our relegation. tarquin farquharson

2:32pm Wed 8 Jan 14

DisplacedFan says...

tarquin farquharson wrote:
I am not surprised we have never won a game with him in charge. Awful referee, very overated. I remember him giving a penalty against us at SMS - I think it was the year we went down - when no-one in the ground, crowd, players of either team knew what it is was for. The replays did not show anything. It was a complete case of an overactive imagination on his part. And could have contributed to our relegation.
Perhaps so, but from the ashes the Phoenix arises.
[quote][p][bold]tarquin farquharson[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised we have never won a game with him in charge. Awful referee, very overated. I remember him giving a penalty against us at SMS - I think it was the year we went down - when no-one in the ground, crowd, players of either team knew what it is was for. The replays did not show anything. It was a complete case of an overactive imagination on his part. And could have contributed to our relegation.[/p][/quote]Perhaps so, but from the ashes the Phoenix arises. DisplacedFan

3:20pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Confucious says...

I suspect we shall be pleased with Webb's performance this week. My Uncle Jiang is visiting and I'm taking him to the match.

Uncle Jiang is a hypnotist and can do anyone from up to 20 yards.

I just have to make sure he doesn't overdo it. We don't want Webb awarding us a pen for a foul in our own half - or sending off more than seven WBA players.
I suspect we shall be pleased with Webb's performance this week. My Uncle Jiang is visiting and I'm taking him to the match. Uncle Jiang is a hypnotist and can do anyone from up to 20 yards. I just have to make sure he doesn't overdo it. We don't want Webb awarding us a pen for a foul in our own half - or sending off more than seven WBA players. Confucious

3:54pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

Confucious wrote:
It will take me at least a year to solve this problem.

I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability.

Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable.

Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year.

Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.
Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It will take me at least a year to solve this problem. I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability. Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable. Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year. Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.[/p][/quote]Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled" Clever Dick

4:26pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Saintsnumbers wrote:
There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly.

Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up.

As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies......

Chill!
That is bullocks. Clattenburg was obviously not going to upset Everton again after effectively being banned from reffing them for the last 6 years. It could have been any team that suffered as a result. It happened to be us. We are and always have been perceived as a soft touch for refs. As I have said before, that is the club's reason for the complaint. It is a signal that we are not going to take it laying down any more.
I think Saintsnumbers is right in his general premise, I think he has just misread the history of the tw@t Cluttenberg and us.
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsnumbers[/bold] wrote: There really is a lot of nonsense talked about refs. There's no question they can make errors. There's no question there are occasionally grave injustices done. Until the game figures out some way of using video challenges or reviews, that will always be the case. But to make the leap from perceived past injustices to a belief that a particular ref has it in for us, is pretty silly. Refs entire reputations depend on being seen to be competent over the long run. I really truly doubt that Webb or any other long-term premiership ref comes into a game with a plan to lean one way. Maybe there a few exceptions. But they're rare. By far the majority of outrage against refs comes from the fact that fans are passionate, and when you're passionate you see the world through your own lens. There's science to back this up. As a general rule, life is about ****-ups, not conspiracies...... Chill![/p][/quote]That is bullocks. Clattenburg was obviously not going to upset Everton again after effectively being banned from reffing them for the last 6 years. It could have been any team that suffered as a result. It happened to be us. We are and always have been perceived as a soft touch for refs. As I have said before, that is the club's reason for the complaint. It is a signal that we are not going to take it laying down any more.[/p][/quote]I think Saintsnumbers is right in his general premise, I think he has just misread the history of the tw@t Cluttenberg and us. Mush On The Beach

4:38pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Norwegian Saint says...

THE BEST REFEREES ARE ANONYMOUS....
CLUTERFCUK CLATTERBRAIN IS ALWAYS IN THE MEDIA... ENOUGH SAID!
THE BEST REFEREES ARE ANONYMOUS.... CLUTERFCUK CLATTERBRAIN IS ALWAYS IN THE MEDIA... ENOUGH SAID! Norwegian Saint

6:23pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Confucious wrote:
It will take me at least a year to solve this problem.

I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability.

Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable.

Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year.

Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.
Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"
'Who's the android, who's the android, who's the android in the zinc? Who's the android in the zinc?'

'Go and get some new lazers, you useless four-camera-ed son of a cyborg.'
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It will take me at least a year to solve this problem. I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability. Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable. Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year. Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.[/p][/quote]Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"[/p][/quote]'Who's the android, who's the android, who's the android in the zinc? Who's the android in the zinc?' 'Go and get some new lazers, you useless four-camera-ed son of a cyborg.' Strasbourg Saint

6:25pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Confucious wrote:
It will take me at least a year to solve this problem.

I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability.

Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable.

Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year.

Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.
Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"
Yes. And he can shoot a rocket into the sky which, upon exploding, writes in the air: "Fukc off - I DO know what I'm doing"
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It will take me at least a year to solve this problem. I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability. Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable. Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year. Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.[/p][/quote]Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"[/p][/quote]Yes. And he can shoot a rocket into the sky which, upon exploding, writes in the air: "Fukc off - I DO know what I'm doing" Confucious

6:56pm Wed 8 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
THE BEST REFEREES ARE ANONYMOUS....
CLUTERFCUK CLATTERBRAIN IS ALWAYS IN THE MEDIA... ENOUGH SAID!
Would be better if they weren't autonomous.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: THE BEST REFEREES ARE ANONYMOUS.... CLUTERFCUK CLATTERBRAIN IS ALWAYS IN THE MEDIA... ENOUGH SAID![/p][/quote]Would be better if they weren't autonomous. OSPREYSAINT

7:00pm Wed 8 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Confucious wrote:
It will take me at least a year to solve this problem.

I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability.

Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable.

Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year.

Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.
Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"
Yes. And he can shoot a rocket into the sky which, upon exploding, writes in the air: "Fukc off - I DO know what I'm doing"
Have to trial him for Robot Wars, Matilda and Dead Metal would make mincemetal out him.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It will take me at least a year to solve this problem. I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability. Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable. Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year. Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.[/p][/quote]Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"[/p][/quote]Yes. And he can shoot a rocket into the sky which, upon exploding, writes in the air: "Fukc off - I DO know what I'm doing"[/p][/quote]Have to trial him for Robot Wars, Matilda and Dead Metal would make mincemetal out him. OSPREYSAINT

7:09pm Wed 8 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

Confucious wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Confucious wrote:
It will take me at least a year to solve this problem.

I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability.

Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable.

Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year.

Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.
Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"
Yes. And he can shoot a rocket into the sky which, upon exploding, writes in the air: "Fukc off - I DO know what I'm doing"
Make sure nobody has access to your plans. We don't want any whistle blowers.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: It will take me at least a year to solve this problem. I am working on Horace. Horace is a Robot with 41 eyes including 8 in infrared - twenty of which in total are attached to long antennae with 3D capability. Horace will not only receive instant multi-faceted information but will be capable of making accurate decisions within one thousandth of a second. He will move rapidly on a hover system, either a fraction above the grass or up to 20ft high where desirable. Horace is still at the development stage and I expect a prototype to be operational by the Autumn - with full production early next year. Horace will of course be 100% impartial and only one person (ie me - a devoted Saint) will be able to add any bias mode.[/p][/quote]Is he going to be programmed to ignore such player comment as "you're just a stupid piece of electronic garbage. I'll bet you've never even played football. You're so full of your own self importance that you're even worse than Twattenburg. You never used to be like this until you were recycled"[/p][/quote]Yes. And he can shoot a rocket into the sky which, upon exploding, writes in the air: "Fukc off - I DO know what I'm doing"[/p][/quote]Make sure nobody has access to your plans. We don't want any whistle blowers. Clever Dick

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