What should Southampton FC do next in the row about Mark Clattenburg and Adam Lallana?

What should Saints do next in Clattenburg row?

What should Saints do next in Clattenburg row?

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What do you think Saints should do next in the row over remarks made by referee Mark Clattenburg to Adam Lallana?

With both the FA and PMGOL both saying the referee has no case to answer, Saints have carried on and insisted the matter is not over.

But what do you think the club should do next?

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11:32am Tue 7 Jan 14

Costa Baz says...

No other way - hit man ;0)
No other way - hit man ;0) Costa Baz
  • Score: 10

11:32am Tue 7 Jan 14

Costa Baz says...

Only joking officer
Only joking officer Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

11:49am Tue 7 Jan 14

bogie says...

Ban the referee from St Mary's!
Ban the referee from St Mary's! bogie
  • Score: 9

11:55am Tue 7 Jan 14

Egomaniac says...

Swallow its pride and get on with the rest of the season!

The comments allegedly made by Clattenburg may have been unwise, but they can hardly be construed as abusive or insulting. This is a complete storm in a teacup, and though I am a very loyal Saints supporter, I have to criticise their stance in this matter. I feel we are bordering on a childish spat here, and risk becoming a bit of a laughing stock throughout the football fraternity. Not to mention being the revenge target of all the referees that cover our games in future.

Forget it NC\MP/AL et al, and get on with the rest of your lives!
Swallow its pride and get on with the rest of the season! The comments allegedly made by Clattenburg may have been unwise, but they can hardly be construed as abusive or insulting. This is a complete storm in a teacup, and though I am a very loyal Saints supporter, I have to criticise their stance in this matter. I feel we are bordering on a childish spat here, and risk becoming a bit of a laughing stock throughout the football fraternity. Not to mention being the revenge target of all the referees that cover our games in future. Forget it NC\MP/AL et al, and get on with the rest of your lives! Egomaniac
  • Score: 36

12:02pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Crodney says...

Nothing to be gained by going on with this - I wonder if the contentious decisions/non-decisi
ons by this referee, linked with the comments to AL gave the Club the impression he was sub-consciously biased against Saints! I don't believe referees go into a match with any bias in mind but they would be less than human if they liked every club and every player equally. If, for some reason, one doesn't take to a place/person etc. it may subconsciously affect decision making.
Nothing to be gained by going on with this - I wonder if the contentious decisions/non-decisi ons by this referee, linked with the comments to AL gave the Club the impression he was sub-consciously biased against Saints! I don't believe referees go into a match with any bias in mind but they would be less than human if they liked every club and every player equally. If, for some reason, one doesn't take to a place/person etc. it may subconsciously affect decision making. Crodney
  • Score: 3

12:11pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Why back down now? That would just show weakness. I say tell the FA and PGMOL we don't want him and see what happens. We felt we had a valid point. It has never just been about the comment. If Clatt is appointed to one of our games that would be the FA PGMOL picking a fight and I don't think they would want to be seen to do that..
Why back down now? That would just show weakness. I say tell the FA and PGMOL we don't want him and see what happens. We felt we had a valid point. It has never just been about the comment. If Clatt is appointed to one of our games that would be the FA PGMOL picking a fight and I don't think they would want to be seen to do that.. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 1

12:14pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Crodney wrote:
Nothing to be gained by going on with this - I wonder if the contentious decisions/non-decisi

ons by this referee, linked with the comments to AL gave the Club the impression he was sub-consciously biased against Saints! I don't believe referees go into a match with any bias in mind but they would be less than human if they liked every club and every player equally. If, for some reason, one doesn't take to a place/person etc. it may subconsciously affect decision making.
Clatt went into that game with the clear intent that he was not going to upset Everton. Simple as that
[quote][p][bold]Crodney[/bold] wrote: Nothing to be gained by going on with this - I wonder if the contentious decisions/non-decisi ons by this referee, linked with the comments to AL gave the Club the impression he was sub-consciously biased against Saints! I don't believe referees go into a match with any bias in mind but they would be less than human if they liked every club and every player equally. If, for some reason, one doesn't take to a place/person etc. it may subconsciously affect decision making.[/p][/quote]Clatt went into that game with the clear intent that he was not going to upset Everton. Simple as that Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 13

12:14pm Tue 7 Jan 14

likewatchingbrazil says...

I'm sure we are not the only club clatterturd has issues with, but with the FA being a closed shop nothing will change so all you can do is say your piece and move on.
coyr foadp+c
I'm sure we are not the only club clatterturd has issues with, but with the FA being a closed shop nothing will change so all you can do is say your piece and move on. coyr foadp+c likewatchingbrazil
  • Score: 6

12:15pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Totton Ric says...

This could make things worse if they don’t drop it even though Saints fans are behind Lallana, ref's will possibly go against Saint in future matches if not dropped.
This could make things worse if they don’t drop it even though Saints fans are behind Lallana, ref's will possibly go against Saint in future matches if not dropped. Totton Ric
  • Score: 3

12:16pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Clatt was given the Saints game as his first at everton in 6 years because we are seen as a soft touch. NC is addressing that.
Clatt was given the Saints game as his first at everton in 6 years because we are seen as a soft touch. NC is addressing that. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 28

12:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

ToastyTea says...

This is getting boring now zzzzz how many more days / stories can the Echo stretch out of this story that's finished with.
This is getting boring now zzzzz how many more days / stories can the Echo stretch out of this story that's finished with. ToastyTea
  • Score: -9

12:19pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
I'm sure we are not the only club clatterturd has issues with, but with the FA being a closed shop nothing will change so all you can do is say your piece and move on.
coyr foadp+c
Exactly, but that doesn't mean we back down. We tell them he is not welcome (which we have done) and see what happens. The FA and PGMOL will want this to blow over too so I doubt he will be given one of our games for a while and I expect he has been warned privately to be extremely careful about what he says to players given his history
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: I'm sure we are not the only club clatterturd has issues with, but with the FA being a closed shop nothing will change so all you can do is say your piece and move on. coyr foadp+c[/p][/quote]Exactly, but that doesn't mean we back down. We tell them he is not welcome (which we have done) and see what happens. The FA and PGMOL will want this to blow over too so I doubt he will be given one of our games for a while and I expect he has been warned privately to be extremely careful about what he says to players given his history Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: -1

12:23pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Costa Baz says...

Crodney wrote:
Nothing to be gained by going on with this - I wonder if the contentious decisions/non-decisi

ons by this referee, linked with the comments to AL gave the Club the impression he was sub-consciously biased against Saints! I don't believe referees go into a match with any bias in mind but they would be less than human if they liked every club and every player equally. If, for some reason, one doesn't take to a place/person etc. it may subconsciously affect decision making.
If the ref knows he doesn't like a certain player or club, he should inform his employers, so that they can be aware of it.
He should also excuse himself from officiating in matches involving said players and clubs, or run the risk of being called a cheat, when he continuously makes controversial decisions, that always seem to penalise the same clubs.

Saints have done what they set out to do. They have raised doubts about the man's credibility. And hopefully, someone in the upper echelons of the PMGOL will have picked up on the fact that he regularly makes bad decisions that penalise Saints.
If, when he next referees a match with us, he makes another massive error, maybe the rest of the footballing world will sit up and understand why we took this action.
[quote][p][bold]Crodney[/bold] wrote: Nothing to be gained by going on with this - I wonder if the contentious decisions/non-decisi ons by this referee, linked with the comments to AL gave the Club the impression he was sub-consciously biased against Saints! I don't believe referees go into a match with any bias in mind but they would be less than human if they liked every club and every player equally. If, for some reason, one doesn't take to a place/person etc. it may subconsciously affect decision making.[/p][/quote]If the ref knows he doesn't like a certain player or club, he should inform his employers, so that they can be aware of it. He should also excuse himself from officiating in matches involving said players and clubs, or run the risk of being called a cheat, when he continuously makes controversial decisions, that always seem to penalise the same clubs. Saints have done what they set out to do. They have raised doubts about the man's credibility. And hopefully, someone in the upper echelons of the PMGOL will have picked up on the fact that he regularly makes bad decisions that penalise Saints. If, when he next referees a match with us, he makes another massive error, maybe the rest of the footballing world will sit up and understand why we took this action. Costa Baz
  • Score: 16

12:27pm Tue 7 Jan 14

JohnItaly says...

Accept the fact that the FA & PMGOL have ruled as they saw fit - i.e. under no circumstances should a referee be seen to be at fault - and move on. I strongly suspect that one objective of Southampton FC was to ensure Clattenburg would not officiate at a Saints' game, at least in the near future, and this has more than likely been achieved. In could be argued the Club have gained a pyrrhic victory as they have criticised a referee without having to face the wrath of the FA and been heavily fined.
Accept the fact that the FA & PMGOL have ruled as they saw fit - i.e. under no circumstances should a referee be seen to be at fault - and move on. I strongly suspect that one objective of Southampton FC was to ensure Clattenburg would not officiate at a Saints' game, at least in the near future, and this has more than likely been achieved. In could be argued the Club have gained a pyrrhic victory as they have criticised a referee without having to face the wrath of the FA and been heavily fined. JohnItaly
  • Score: 13

12:40pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Clatt was given the Saints game as his first at everton in 6 years because we are seen as a soft touch. NC is addressing that.
I think that is exactly what NC is addressing. If anyone at the club addressed this directly club that would be charged by the FA
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: Clatt was given the Saints game as his first at everton in 6 years because we are seen as a soft touch. NC is addressing that.[/p][/quote]I think that is exactly what NC is addressing. If anyone at the club addressed this directly club that would be charged by the FA Jesus_02
  • Score: 6

12:52pm Tue 7 Jan 14

elvisimo says...

dirty protest
dirty protest elvisimo
  • Score: 3

12:52pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

I can’t see Saints doing anything further. Raising it with the Premier League would only put them in a position where they would have to back the FA and the Refs association.

Personally I think several issues have been highlighted.

1: There is no formal process regarding complaints. The FA and Refs Association can simply say that there is not a case against them
2: Refs are considered beyond criticism
3: Certain clubs receive preferential treatment from the Refs association and the FA

There is always next time....because there WILL be a next time
I can’t see Saints doing anything further. Raising it with the Premier League would only put them in a position where they would have to back the FA and the Refs association. Personally I think several issues have been highlighted. 1: There is no formal process regarding complaints. The FA and Refs Association can simply say that there is not a case against them 2: Refs are considered beyond criticism 3: Certain clubs receive preferential treatment from the Refs association and the FA There is always next time....because there WILL be a next time Jesus_02
  • Score: -1

1:05pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Bpl333 says...

what a pathetic thing to complain about......

Lallana acting like a little baby - i wonder if he goes back to mummy when his misses tells him off for wearing his shoes in the lounge..
what a pathetic thing to complain about...... Lallana acting like a little baby - i wonder if he goes back to mummy when his misses tells him off for wearing his shoes in the lounge.. Bpl333
  • Score: -22

1:06pm Tue 7 Jan 14

sburman says...

I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments.

Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day.

It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave.
.
I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. . sburman
  • Score: -25

1:12pm Tue 7 Jan 14

florida saint says...

punish clatt, make him put the wheels back on the bus.. u t s
punish clatt, make him put the wheels back on the bus.. u t s florida saint
  • Score: 4

1:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

andoru says...

A range of options remain on the table:

1. Call him names behind his back.
2. Stuff him in a locker.
3. Trip him up in the hallway.
4. Flush his head down the loo.
5. Steal his lunch money.
6. Pull his pants down in front of some girls.
7. Kick him in the cnut.
8. Throw something disgusting over him.
9. Laugh at his willy.
10. Tell his mum.

Or just forget about it and move on. The club have made their case and should get what I think was the desired effect, namely keeping Clattenburg away from our games for a while if not for good.
A range of options remain on the table: 1. Call him names behind his back. 2. Stuff him in a locker. 3. Trip him up in the hallway. 4. Flush his head down the loo. 5. Steal his lunch money. 6. Pull his pants down in front of some girls. 7. Kick him in the cnut. 8. Throw something disgusting over him. 9. Laugh at his willy. 10. Tell his mum. Or just forget about it and move on. The club have made their case and should get what I think was the desired effect, namely keeping Clattenburg away from our games for a while if not for good. andoru
  • Score: 7

1:23pm Tue 7 Jan 14

WECOMING4U says...

Unwise move by Saints, just get on with it. We can make sure our players are prepared properly through our high tech training ground but referees we can not do anything about.
He is a media man Clattenburg so he will be loving all this.
Unwise move by Saints, just get on with it. We can make sure our players are prepared properly through our high tech training ground but referees we can not do anything about. He is a media man Clattenburg so he will be loving all this. WECOMING4U
  • Score: 3

1:35pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Confucious says...

The club should form a committee to consider deliberations which contemplate all reflections of the discussion giving scrutiny to studies of all reviews examined by the issue - bearing in mind that the many things which have been considered are made allowance for, weighed and taken into account before any final analysis results in calls for additional scrutiny to sift through detailed diagnosis in a logical, organised, rational, searching, studious and systematic manner so full interpretations can be given to the judgements and findings, even if they are that still further investigation, inspection and surveys are required.

Anything less and the whole thing will be made to look a bit silly and out of proportion.
The club should form a committee to consider deliberations which contemplate all reflections of the discussion giving scrutiny to studies of all reviews examined by the issue - bearing in mind that the many things which have been considered are made allowance for, weighed and taken into account before any final analysis results in calls for additional scrutiny to sift through detailed diagnosis in a logical, organised, rational, searching, studious and systematic manner so full interpretations can be given to the judgements and findings, even if they are that still further investigation, inspection and surveys are required. Anything less and the whole thing will be made to look a bit silly and out of proportion. Confucious
  • Score: 7

1:38pm Tue 7 Jan 14

sburman says...

Confucious wrote:
The club should form a committee to consider deliberations which contemplate all reflections of the discussion giving scrutiny to studies of all reviews examined by the issue - bearing in mind that the many things which have been considered are made allowance for, weighed and taken into account before any final analysis results in calls for additional scrutiny to sift through detailed diagnosis in a logical, organised, rational, searching, studious and systematic manner so full interpretations can be given to the judgements and findings, even if they are that still further investigation, inspection and surveys are required.

Anything less and the whole thing will be made to look a bit silly and out of proportion.
Nicely put. You didn't write scripts for `Yes Primeminister` did you?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: The club should form a committee to consider deliberations which contemplate all reflections of the discussion giving scrutiny to studies of all reviews examined by the issue - bearing in mind that the many things which have been considered are made allowance for, weighed and taken into account before any final analysis results in calls for additional scrutiny to sift through detailed diagnosis in a logical, organised, rational, searching, studious and systematic manner so full interpretations can be given to the judgements and findings, even if they are that still further investigation, inspection and surveys are required. Anything less and the whole thing will be made to look a bit silly and out of proportion.[/p][/quote]Nicely put. You didn't write scripts for `Yes Primeminister` did you? sburman
  • Score: 2

1:47pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Quentin Heslop says...

Get over it
Get over it Quentin Heslop
  • Score: 3

1:53pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Puddletown Saint says...

1 .If what has been said was in fact said then move on - we have achieved our aim of (hopefully) not having Clutterbrain in charge for a bit.

2. If more was said then tell us. Referees stick together so our mire may become worse...............
.

COYR
1 .If what has been said was in fact said then move on - we have achieved our aim of (hopefully) not having Clutterbrain in charge for a bit. 2. If more was said then tell us. Referees stick together so our mire may become worse............... . COYR Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 2

1:56pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Outside of the Box says...

Let him come to SMS and ref a game, then let Jason Puncheon do his doo in Clattenburgs boots
Let him come to SMS and ref a game, then let Jason Puncheon do his doo in Clattenburgs boots Outside of the Box
  • Score: -3

2:13pm Tue 7 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

sburman wrote:
I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .
If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.
[quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .[/p][/quote]If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it. hedge end bob
  • Score: 11

2:22pm Tue 7 Jan 14

DragonSaint says...

Drop it NC/MP! You are sounding like school boys now!!
At least the fans on here are having a laugh!

Happy New Year.
Drop it NC/MP! You are sounding like school boys now!! At least the fans on here are having a laugh! Happy New Year. DragonSaint
  • Score: -1

2:37pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

sburman wrote:
I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments.

Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day.

It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave.
.
Not a full Saints, you don't appear to be a full anything with these ignorant comments.
[quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .[/p][/quote]Not a full Saints, you don't appear to be a full anything with these ignorant comments. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:39pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Let him come to SMS and ref a game, then let Jason Puncheon do his doo in Clattenburgs boots
That would be a Crystal Palace match then? Not going to happen this season.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: Let him come to SMS and ref a game, then let Jason Puncheon do his doo in Clattenburgs boots[/p][/quote]That would be a Crystal Palace match then? Not going to happen this season. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:43pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bpl333 wrote:
what a pathetic thing to complain about......

Lallana acting like a little baby - i wonder if he goes back to mummy when his misses tells him off for wearing his shoes in the lounge..
You haven't been listening, it was not Adam Lallana that has made the complaint, in future if you are going to post abuse at least get your facts right first, better still just go away.
[quote][p][bold]Bpl333[/bold] wrote: what a pathetic thing to complain about...... Lallana acting like a little baby - i wonder if he goes back to mummy when his misses tells him off for wearing his shoes in the lounge..[/p][/quote]You haven't been listening, it was not Adam Lallana that has made the complaint, in future if you are going to post abuse at least get your facts right first, better still just go away. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

2:47pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

JohnItaly wrote:
Accept the fact that the FA & PMGOL have ruled as they saw fit - i.e. under no circumstances should a referee be seen to be at fault - and move on. I strongly suspect that one objective of Southampton FC was to ensure Clattenburg would not officiate at a Saints' game, at least in the near future, and this has more than likely been achieved. In could be argued the Club have gained a pyrrhic victory as they have criticised a referee without having to face the wrath of the FA and been heavily fined.
Would you be happy if you were in Court on a trumped up charge and found that the Judge, the Jury and the only witnesses permitted to speak were in the same camp? It would appear that neither the PGMOL or The FA asked any reliable neutral witnesses for their version, only people from their own court.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Accept the fact that the FA & PMGOL have ruled as they saw fit - i.e. under no circumstances should a referee be seen to be at fault - and move on. I strongly suspect that one objective of Southampton FC was to ensure Clattenburg would not officiate at a Saints' game, at least in the near future, and this has more than likely been achieved. In could be argued the Club have gained a pyrrhic victory as they have criticised a referee without having to face the wrath of the FA and been heavily fined.[/p][/quote]Would you be happy if you were in Court on a trumped up charge and found that the Judge, the Jury and the only witnesses permitted to speak were in the same camp? It would appear that neither the PGMOL or The FA asked any reliable neutral witnesses for their version, only people from their own court. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:50pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
I can’t see Saints doing anything further. Raising it with the Premier League would only put them in a position where they would have to back the FA and the Refs association.

Personally I think several issues have been highlighted.

1: There is no formal process regarding complaints. The FA and Refs Association can simply say that there is not a case against them
2: Refs are considered beyond criticism
3: Certain clubs receive preferential treatment from the Refs association and the FA

There is always next time....because there WILL be a next time
What goes around, comes around, this may well come back and bite the authorities, however I hope Saints should now let it ride because you simply cannot compete in this undemocratic set up, they can't win.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: I can’t see Saints doing anything further. Raising it with the Premier League would only put them in a position where they would have to back the FA and the Refs association. Personally I think several issues have been highlighted. 1: There is no formal process regarding complaints. The FA and Refs Association can simply say that there is not a case against them 2: Refs are considered beyond criticism 3: Certain clubs receive preferential treatment from the Refs association and the FA There is always next time....because there WILL be a next time[/p][/quote]What goes around, comes around, this may well come back and bite the authorities, however I hope Saints should now let it ride because you simply cannot compete in this undemocratic set up, they can't win. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

3:15pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Folkestone Saint says...

I noticed more bad reffing after that ref gave a player two yellows and didn't send him off, he got caned in the media and it's like we are to blame for his error ever since
I noticed more bad reffing after that ref gave a player two yellows and didn't send him off, he got caned in the media and it's like we are to blame for his error ever since Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 1

3:29pm Tue 7 Jan 14

montecristosaint says...

Confucious wrote:
The club should form a committee to consider deliberations which contemplate all reflections of the discussion giving scrutiny to studies of all reviews examined by the issue - bearing in mind that the many things which have been considered are made allowance for, weighed and taken into account before any final analysis results in calls for additional scrutiny to sift through detailed diagnosis in a logical, organised, rational, searching, studious and systematic manner so full interpretations can be given to the judgements and findings, even if they are that still further investigation, inspection and surveys are required.

Anything less and the whole thing will be made to look a bit silly and out of proportion.
I wonder whether Mrs Wilson has fallen asleep while chairing the comittee
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: The club should form a committee to consider deliberations which contemplate all reflections of the discussion giving scrutiny to studies of all reviews examined by the issue - bearing in mind that the many things which have been considered are made allowance for, weighed and taken into account before any final analysis results in calls for additional scrutiny to sift through detailed diagnosis in a logical, organised, rational, searching, studious and systematic manner so full interpretations can be given to the judgements and findings, even if they are that still further investigation, inspection and surveys are required. Anything less and the whole thing will be made to look a bit silly and out of proportion.[/p][/quote]I wonder whether Mrs Wilson has fallen asleep while chairing the comittee montecristosaint
  • Score: 1

4:33pm Tue 7 Jan 14

JohnItaly says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Accept the fact that the FA & PMGOL have ruled as they saw fit - i.e. under no circumstances should a referee be seen to be at fault - and move on. I strongly suspect that one objective of Southampton FC was to ensure Clattenburg would not officiate at a Saints' game, at least in the near future, and this has more than likely been achieved. In could be argued the Club have gained a pyrrhic victory as they have criticised a referee without having to face the wrath of the FA and been heavily fined.
Would you be happy if you were in Court on a trumped up charge and found that the Judge, the Jury and the only witnesses permitted to speak were in the same camp? It would appear that neither the PGMOL or The FA asked any reliable neutral witnesses for their version, only people from their own court.
No I would not be happy and not for one second am I saying that the situation is right and if I felt the Club had any chance of Clattenburg being reprimanded / censored / struck off then by all means pursue it to the bitter end BUT they haven't so the danger is the Club will only alienate themselves from the FA and PMGOL by pursing a lost cause. One must remember the referee will have the final say on the field and the next time a Saints player thought giving me a hard time he would be off!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Accept the fact that the FA & PMGOL have ruled as they saw fit - i.e. under no circumstances should a referee be seen to be at fault - and move on. I strongly suspect that one objective of Southampton FC was to ensure Clattenburg would not officiate at a Saints' game, at least in the near future, and this has more than likely been achieved. In could be argued the Club have gained a pyrrhic victory as they have criticised a referee without having to face the wrath of the FA and been heavily fined.[/p][/quote]Would you be happy if you were in Court on a trumped up charge and found that the Judge, the Jury and the only witnesses permitted to speak were in the same camp? It would appear that neither the PGMOL or The FA asked any reliable neutral witnesses for their version, only people from their own court.[/p][/quote]No I would not be happy and not for one second am I saying that the situation is right and if I felt the Club had any chance of Clattenburg being reprimanded / censored / struck off then by all means pursue it to the bitter end BUT they haven't so the danger is the Club will only alienate themselves from the FA and PMGOL by pursing a lost cause. One must remember the referee will have the final say on the field and the next time a Saints player thought giving me a hard time he would be off! JohnItaly
  • Score: 1

4:55pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

JohnItaly wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
Accept the fact that the FA & PMGOL have ruled as they saw fit - i.e. under no circumstances should a referee be seen to be at fault - and move on. I strongly suspect that one objective of Southampton FC was to ensure Clattenburg would not officiate at a Saints' game, at least in the near future, and this has more than likely been achieved. In could be argued the Club have gained a pyrrhic victory as they have criticised a referee without having to face the wrath of the FA and been heavily fined.
Would you be happy if you were in Court on a trumped up charge and found that the Judge, the Jury and the only witnesses permitted to speak were in the same camp? It would appear that neither the PGMOL or The FA asked any reliable neutral witnesses for their version, only people from their own court.
No I would not be happy and not for one second am I saying that the situation is right and if I felt the Club had any chance of Clattenburg being reprimanded / censored / struck off then by all means pursue it to the bitter end BUT they haven't so the danger is the Club will only alienate themselves from the FA and PMGOL by pursing a lost cause. One must remember the referee will have the final say on the field and the next time a Saints player thought giving me a hard time he would be off!
With a bit of luck both the Referees and Players will be on their best behaviour until the Press tire of it, that can only be good for the game IMO.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: Accept the fact that the FA & PMGOL have ruled as they saw fit - i.e. under no circumstances should a referee be seen to be at fault - and move on. I strongly suspect that one objective of Southampton FC was to ensure Clattenburg would not officiate at a Saints' game, at least in the near future, and this has more than likely been achieved. In could be argued the Club have gained a pyrrhic victory as they have criticised a referee without having to face the wrath of the FA and been heavily fined.[/p][/quote]Would you be happy if you were in Court on a trumped up charge and found that the Judge, the Jury and the only witnesses permitted to speak were in the same camp? It would appear that neither the PGMOL or The FA asked any reliable neutral witnesses for their version, only people from their own court.[/p][/quote]No I would not be happy and not for one second am I saying that the situation is right and if I felt the Club had any chance of Clattenburg being reprimanded / censored / struck off then by all means pursue it to the bitter end BUT they haven't so the danger is the Club will only alienate themselves from the FA and PMGOL by pursing a lost cause. One must remember the referee will have the final say on the field and the next time a Saints player thought giving me a hard time he would be off![/p][/quote]With a bit of luck both the Referees and Players will be on their best behaviour until the Press tire of it, that can only be good for the game IMO. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

5:07pm Tue 7 Jan 14

st1halo says...

We don't need to do anything as it's job done imo.

NC is a smart man and people need to look at the bigger picture. Twatenburg has been heavily biased againt us in the games we have had him as referee. How do you go about seeking redress? Argue the decisions and you risk fines, the bias continues. The inocuous complaint will force all refs to bear scrutiny at our games. Any retribution fom refs in future would damage their own integity and credibility. NC is quite happy to put up with a little bad press in the pusuit of adding fairness to our matches and so he should be. There is no embarrassment in taking a principled stance.

STID
We don't need to do anything as it's job done imo. NC is a smart man and people need to look at the bigger picture. Twatenburg has been heavily biased againt us in the games we have had him as referee. How do you go about seeking redress? Argue the decisions and you risk fines, the bias continues. The inocuous complaint will force all refs to bear scrutiny at our games. Any retribution fom refs in future would damage their own integity and credibility. NC is quite happy to put up with a little bad press in the pusuit of adding fairness to our matches and so he should be. There is no embarrassment in taking a principled stance. STID st1halo
  • Score: 2

5:34pm Tue 7 Jan 14

bowwhite says...

grow up for goodness sake and concentrate on winning games
grow up for goodness sake and concentrate on winning games bowwhite
  • Score: -4

6:06pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Southseachris says...

If all that was said is as reported then I can't believe why anyone should be so upset and would like to know who was responsible for deciding to pursue the matter. It's made the club look foolish to say the least which is very disappointing given the favourable press we had before Xmas
If all that was said is as reported then I can't believe why anyone should be so upset and would like to know who was responsible for deciding to pursue the matter. It's made the club look foolish to say the least which is very disappointing given the favourable press we had before Xmas Southseachris
  • Score: -2

6:11pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

I think we should get Nicola to escort him to his own personal dressing room the next time he comes to St Marys. We should get a portaloo installed in the car park for that purpose with a parking space alongside. And then we should adopt that famous skunt trick and charge him £50 to park there.
I think we should get Nicola to escort him to his own personal dressing room the next time he comes to St Marys. We should get a portaloo installed in the car park for that purpose with a parking space alongside. And then we should adopt that famous skunt trick and charge him £50 to park there. Clever Dick
  • Score: -1

6:22pm Tue 7 Jan 14

sburman says...

hedge end bob wrote:
sburman wrote:
I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .
If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.
I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .[/p][/quote]If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.[/p][/quote]I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL. sburman
  • Score: -2

6:37pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Baddesley Bill says...

The point has been made....time to let the issue lie me thinks.
The point has been made....time to let the issue lie me thinks. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: -2

6:58pm Tue 7 Jan 14

mickey01 says...

what a load of crap adam is a fool to get the hump the ref shows a bit of humanity and is damned if he does and damned if he doesnt
what a load of crap adam is a fool to get the hump the ref shows a bit of humanity and is damned if he does and damned if he doesnt mickey01
  • Score: 0

7:03pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

Drop the subject already. A lot of nonsense that any fan caring about the reputation of the club, would pray would go away. Adam was in the muppet's ear all match and the ref responded by making a silly remark which was not abusive. So what!
Drop the subject already. A lot of nonsense that any fan caring about the reputation of the club, would pray would go away. Adam was in the muppet's ear all match and the ref responded by making a silly remark which was not abusive. So what! Marchwood Malcom
  • Score: 2

7:05pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Crodney says...

Well, we've got Howard Webb on Saturday! He missed a clear pen when he reffed our away match at Norwich this season. Hope he does better this time.
Well, we've got Howard Webb on Saturday! He missed a clear pen when he reffed our away match at Norwich this season. Hope he does better this time. Crodney
  • Score: 2

9:18pm Tue 7 Jan 14

expatsaint says...

Cannot believe Southampton Fotball Club is getting embroiled in this petty non-event. Maybe Clattenburg was a little disrespectful, I don't know, but have we really not got other more important matters to concentrate on? This is an irrelevance, a red herring, a side issue. Suck it up!
Cannot believe Southampton Fotball Club is getting embroiled in this petty non-event. Maybe Clattenburg was a little disrespectful, I don't know, but have we really not got other more important matters to concentrate on? This is an irrelevance, a red herring, a side issue. Suck it up! expatsaint
  • Score: -1

9:57pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Sunny Saint says...

As someone that knows how to lip-read you would all be shocked if you could see the amount of foul & ranting language that our beloved (as well as the opposition's) players rain down on the lone referee every single game. All of which is nothing more than abusive. Whilst I certainly don't condone the Clatt incident, I also think that people that live in glass houses should not throw stones. So, unless the FA & clubs are prepared to accept the enforcement of a sin-bin or red card against every incident of abuse leveled against the ref from a player, then it is not open season to penalize the Ref also. Until then, let's bury this embarrasing incident and move on. Before we are again the laughing stock of the whole league.
As someone that knows how to lip-read you would all be shocked if you could see the amount of foul & ranting language that our beloved (as well as the opposition's) players rain down on the lone referee every single game. All of which is nothing more than abusive. Whilst I certainly don't condone the Clatt incident, I also think that people that live in glass houses should not throw stones. So, unless the FA & clubs are prepared to accept the enforcement of a sin-bin or red card against every incident of abuse leveled against the ref from a player, then it is not open season to penalize the Ref also. Until then, let's bury this embarrasing incident and move on. Before we are again the laughing stock of the whole league. Sunny Saint
  • Score: 0

11:12pm Tue 7 Jan 14

befriendly says...

As an ex grade 3 referee I took a strong stand on bad language and when any player started using it I simply requested that if he wanted to use such language he should leave the field and use it where he couldn't be heard, but if he wanted to play football all he had to do was stop swearing and let his feet play the game and not his mouth. There is a law in the game about foul and abusive language so the referees should apply that law and then they wouldn't need to use it, but most players now a days seem to think they need to swear as it makes them look tough, but unfortunately it only makes them look like stupid yobs.
As an ex grade 3 referee I took a strong stand on bad language and when any player started using it I simply requested that if he wanted to use such language he should leave the field and use it where he couldn't be heard, but if he wanted to play football all he had to do was stop swearing and let his feet play the game and not his mouth. There is a law in the game about foul and abusive language so the referees should apply that law and then they wouldn't need to use it, but most players now a days seem to think they need to swear as it makes them look tough, but unfortunately it only makes them look like stupid yobs. befriendly
  • Score: 1

1:49am Wed 8 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

sburman wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
sburman wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .
If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.
I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.
Then wrte about Eastliegh and not something that is of no interest to yourself . You sound like one of those rubber neckers that slows down on the motorway too look at an accident that's happened with traffic going the other way.

I have never been to watch Eastliegh, so know nothing about the standard of football played . So as i would not have any idea what i was writting about,no comment would be made. Suggest in future you should do the same.
[quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .[/p][/quote]If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.[/p][/quote]I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.[/p][/quote]Then wrte about Eastliegh and not something that is of no interest to yourself . You sound like one of those rubber neckers that slows down on the motorway too look at an accident that's happened with traffic going the other way. I have never been to watch Eastliegh, so know nothing about the standard of football played . So as i would not have any idea what i was writting about,no comment would be made. Suggest in future you should do the same. hedge end bob
  • Score: 1

7:40am Wed 8 Jan 14

sburman says...

hedge end bob wrote:
sburman wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
sburman wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .
If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.
I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.
Then wrte about Eastliegh and not something that is of no interest to yourself . You sound like one of those rubber neckers that slows down on the motorway too look at an accident that's happened with traffic going the other way.

I have never been to watch Eastliegh, so know nothing about the standard of football played . So as i would not have any idea what i was writting about,no comment would be made. Suggest in future you should do the same.
My apologies. I never realised this discussion was for fully paid up, fully agreeing, Saints supporters only and that no outside, non-conforming opinion was welcome.
I do live local and I do read the Echo and am a little fed up with this story for which the most common reply seems to be `Get Over it – Move on`.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .[/p][/quote]If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.[/p][/quote]I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.[/p][/quote]Then wrte about Eastliegh and not something that is of no interest to yourself . You sound like one of those rubber neckers that slows down on the motorway too look at an accident that's happened with traffic going the other way. I have never been to watch Eastliegh, so know nothing about the standard of football played . So as i would not have any idea what i was writting about,no comment would be made. Suggest in future you should do the same.[/p][/quote]My apologies. I never realised this discussion was for fully paid up, fully agreeing, Saints supporters only and that no outside, non-conforming opinion was welcome. I do live local and I do read the Echo and am a little fed up with this story for which the most common reply seems to be `Get Over it – Move on`. sburman
  • Score: 0

9:36am Wed 8 Jan 14

Egomaniac says...

sburman wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
sburman wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
sburman wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .
If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.
I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.
Then wrte about Eastliegh and not something that is of no interest to yourself . You sound like one of those rubber neckers that slows down on the motorway too look at an accident that's happened with traffic going the other way.

I have never been to watch Eastliegh, so know nothing about the standard of football played . So as i would not have any idea what i was writting about,no comment would be made. Suggest in future you should do the same.
My apologies. I never realised this discussion was for fully paid up, fully agreeing, Saints supporters only and that no outside, non-conforming opinion was welcome.
I do live local and I do read the Echo and am a little fed up with this story for which the most common reply seems to be `Get Over it – Move on`.
Indeed, sburman, you are right. This is a public forum and you have every right to comment on it - whatever your beliefs and opinions.

Please keep contributing - I personally welcome all views.
[quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .[/p][/quote]If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.[/p][/quote]I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.[/p][/quote]Then wrte about Eastliegh and not something that is of no interest to yourself . You sound like one of those rubber neckers that slows down on the motorway too look at an accident that's happened with traffic going the other way. I have never been to watch Eastliegh, so know nothing about the standard of football played . So as i would not have any idea what i was writting about,no comment would be made. Suggest in future you should do the same.[/p][/quote]My apologies. I never realised this discussion was for fully paid up, fully agreeing, Saints supporters only and that no outside, non-conforming opinion was welcome. I do live local and I do read the Echo and am a little fed up with this story for which the most common reply seems to be `Get Over it – Move on`.[/p][/quote]Indeed, sburman, you are right. This is a public forum and you have every right to comment on it - whatever your beliefs and opinions. Please keep contributing - I personally welcome all views. Egomaniac
  • Score: 1

9:58am Wed 8 Jan 14

george chivers says...

Let's beat WBA, win the FA Cup and finish 9th in the league. Adam, Rickie and Jrod go to Brazil and reach the quarter finals with England. They all come back injured. We bring some more youngsters through who are sensational. We win the first game of the new season at home 3-0 against Everton with Clattenburg as referee who fails to give us three blatant penalties. We complain to the Referee's association, the FA, the bloke who runs the chip shop on the corner, Rupert Lowe, Clive Woodward and uncle Tom Whatshisname. Nothing is done to Clattenburg until next Christmas, when he gets the MBE in the New year's honours list for outstanding services to blogs. End of story.
Let's beat WBA, win the FA Cup and finish 9th in the league. Adam, Rickie and Jrod go to Brazil and reach the quarter finals with England. They all come back injured. We bring some more youngsters through who are sensational. We win the first game of the new season at home 3-0 against Everton with Clattenburg as referee who fails to give us three blatant penalties. We complain to the Referee's association, the FA, the bloke who runs the chip shop on the corner, Rupert Lowe, Clive Woodward and uncle Tom Whatshisname. Nothing is done to Clattenburg until next Christmas, when he gets the MBE in the New year's honours list for outstanding services to blogs. End of story. george chivers
  • Score: 0

5:29pm Wed 8 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

sburman wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
sburman wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
sburman wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .
If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.
I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.
Then wrte about Eastliegh and not something that is of no interest to yourself . You sound like one of those rubber neckers that slows down on the motorway too look at an accident that's happened with traffic going the other way.

I have never been to watch Eastliegh, so know nothing about the standard of football played . So as i would not have any idea what i was writting about,no comment would be made. Suggest in future you should do the same.
My apologies. I never realised this discussion was for fully paid up, fully agreeing, Saints supporters only and that no outside, non-conforming opinion was welcome.
I do live local and I do read the Echo and am a little fed up with this story for which the most common reply seems to be `Get Over it – Move on`.
WELL DON,T READ IT FFS.
[quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sburman[/bold] wrote: I am assuming that Saints lost this match and it was all the ref's fault because he upset a Saints player with his outrageous comments. Or could it just maybe just a case of Everton scored more goals than Southampton on the day. It's all gone beyond a joke now, it is now become annoying. I live local but am not a full Saints. I have admired their proress in recent years now but they are behaving like petulant school kids much akin to the way most of the rest of the Prem. League behave. .[/p][/quote]If your not a SAINTS fan? , why come on here with degrading remarks about the local football club which, may i add, gives pleasure and entertainment too thousands of people just like myself. If you find it annoying don't read it.[/p][/quote]I do support local football, you can find me every home game at Eastleigh's Silverlake Stadium were football is played with equal passion but it's not all about the vast fortunes kicking around oin the PL.[/p][/quote]Then wrte about Eastliegh and not something that is of no interest to yourself . You sound like one of those rubber neckers that slows down on the motorway too look at an accident that's happened with traffic going the other way. I have never been to watch Eastliegh, so know nothing about the standard of football played . So as i would not have any idea what i was writting about,no comment would be made. Suggest in future you should do the same.[/p][/quote]My apologies. I never realised this discussion was for fully paid up, fully agreeing, Saints supporters only and that no outside, non-conforming opinion was welcome. I do live local and I do read the Echo and am a little fed up with this story for which the most common reply seems to be `Get Over it – Move on`.[/p][/quote]WELL DON,T READ IT FFS. hedge end bob
  • Score: -1

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