Southampton FC transfer rumour round-up - January 2014

Basingstoke Gazette: Will any new contracts be signed at Southampton's St Mary's Stadium in January? Will any new contracts be signed at Southampton's St Mary's Stadium in January?

The transfer window is upon us once again - and with it a multitude of rumours of players being linked with a move to St Mary's.

After an impressive start to the season, Mauricio Pochettino's men have slipped back slightly as injuries begin to take their toll on the squad.

After spending over £30m in the summer, will Southampton be loosening the purse strings to allow the manager to dip into the transfer market to ensure the side finish as high as possible in the Premier League?

These are only rumours, so don't think a deal is nailed on just because it is included in the list - it's up to you to decide which ones you believe and which ones you don't - not to mention which deals you like the look of and hope to come true!

The list will be updated as soon as we discover what the latest whispers are - it could be updated a few times in any one day, so be sure to keep checking back to make sure you don't miss out on the newest gossip.

If you come across any rumours you think warrant inclusion, you can either add them to the comments below or email them to dan.kerins@dailyecho.co.uk along with where you found the rumour.

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12:50pm Tue 31 Dec 13

saintsfan2500 says...

According to the Mirror, We are in talks with Aaron Hunt. Another name to add to the list.

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According to the Mirror, We are in talks with Aaron Hunt. Another name to add to the list. Source - http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/t ransfer-news/southam pton-plot-aaron-hunt -transfer-2870516 saintsfan2500

1:09pm Tue 31 Dec 13

saintsfan2500 says...

We are also after Carlos Vela.

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We are also after Carlos Vela. Source - http://www.footballf ancast.com/football- news/southampton-kee n-on-la-liga-hotshot saintsfan2500

1:51pm Tue 31 Dec 13

SouthLondonSaint says...

Hunt to replace Ramirez?

For me i wouldnt be to sad to see Ramirez leave in Jan or in the summer, hasnt done enough and when he has been given the chance dosent give enough on the pitch. Scored a freak goal the other night which was possibly down to goal keeper error more than anything else but like they say if you dont shoot you dont score. But other than that not much has happended he comes on looks like he dont realy want to there rarely tracks back and hasnt produced when its been needed. Its a shame because he obvisouly has talent but is probably better suited to the italian league.
Hunt to replace Ramirez? For me i wouldnt be to sad to see Ramirez leave in Jan or in the summer, hasnt done enough and when he has been given the chance dosent give enough on the pitch. Scored a freak goal the other night which was possibly down to goal keeper error more than anything else but like they say if you dont shoot you dont score. But other than that not much has happended he comes on looks like he dont realy want to there rarely tracks back and hasnt produced when its been needed. Its a shame because he obvisouly has talent but is probably better suited to the italian league. SouthLondonSaint

2:04pm Tue 31 Dec 13

costa gaz says...

Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly).
It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role.
Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man.
I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.
Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly). It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role. Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man. I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance. costa gaz

2:13pm Tue 31 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

costa gaz wrote:
Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly).
It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role.
Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man.
I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.
The Sunseeker connection may be influential.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly). It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role. Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man. I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.[/p][/quote]The Sunseeker connection may be influential. OSPREYSAINT

2:41pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly).
It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role.
Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man.
I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.
The Sunseeker connection may be influential.
A connection with the Southampton Boat Show?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly). It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role. Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man. I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.[/p][/quote]The Sunseeker connection may be influential.[/p][/quote]A connection with the Southampton Boat Show? Rising_Son

3:07pm Tue 31 Dec 13

up saints says...

not bad linked to 9 players and the window not open yet could be 90 tomorrow
not bad linked to 9 players and the window not open yet could be 90 tomorrow up saints

3:27pm Tue 31 Dec 13

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly).
It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role.
Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man.
I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.
The Sunseeker connection may be influential.
A connection with the Southampton Boat Show?
I am partial to chinese / indian or a blonde leggy Russian s . But hope the Marcus connection lives on . I certainly will raise a glass to Liebherr s tonigh . C O Y R t
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly). It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role. Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man. I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.[/p][/quote]The Sunseeker connection may be influential.[/p][/quote]A connection with the Southampton Boat Show?[/p][/quote]I am partial to chinese / indian or a blonde leggy Russian s . But hope the Marcus connection lives on . I certainly will raise a glass to Liebherr s tonigh . C O Y R t SPIKEISLANDTRADER

3:40pm Tue 31 Dec 13

St. Case says...

saintsfan2500 wrote:
According to the Mirror, We are in talks with Aaron Hunt. Another name to add to the list.

Source - http://www.mirror.co

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Anything starting with: "According to the Mirror", should make you stop believing what's coming next. The club never reveals who they talk to. Just saying...
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan2500[/bold] wrote: According to the Mirror, We are in talks with Aaron Hunt. Another name to add to the list. Source - http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/t ransfer-news/southam pton-plot-aaron-hunt -transfer-2870516[/p][/quote]Anything starting with: "According to the Mirror", should make you stop believing what's coming next. The club never reveals who they talk to. Just saying... St. Case

4:56pm Tue 31 Dec 13

pompey in spain says...

we,ve been linked with the chuckle brothers for their passing skills.....to you to me!!!
we,ve been linked with the chuckle brothers for their passing skills.....to you to me!!! pompey in spain

5:11pm Tue 31 Dec 13

costa gaz says...

pompey in spain wrote:
we,ve been linked with the chuckle brothers for their passing skills.....to you to me!!!
They'll be a bit above your level to be honest PiS
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: we,ve been linked with the chuckle brothers for their passing skills.....to you to me!!![/p][/quote]They'll be a bit above your level to be honest PiS costa gaz

5:33pm Tue 31 Dec 13

pompey in spain says...

you can be brutal at times costa gas, FYI the saints are all meeting up tomorrow for your chelsea defeat......the most packed telephone booth on the costa del sol..........feliz ano cono.....not the same when you cant find the tilde above the "n" is it on a english keyboard
you can be brutal at times costa gas, FYI the saints are all meeting up tomorrow for your chelsea defeat......the most packed telephone booth on the costa del sol..........feliz ano cono.....not the same when you cant find the tilde above the "n" is it on a english keyboard pompey in spain

6:01pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Saint TGB says...

If we get taken over by the Chinese, they may make us play in red!
If we get taken over by the Chinese, they may make us play in red! Saint TGB

6:57pm Tue 31 Dec 13

apm1954 says...

here we go again.
here we go again. apm1954

1:10am Wed 1 Jan 14

Saintly Sam says...

Sorry, £15million for Lallana?
Is that a typo, shouldn't it read £50million?
Even at that price we'd be mugs to let him go.
Sorry, £15million for Lallana? Is that a typo, shouldn't it read £50million? Even at that price we'd be mugs to let him go. Saintly Sam

4:01am Wed 1 Jan 14

DisplacedFan says...

Daily Mail quotes Wet Spam going to offer 8 million for Ricky. Well worth it, but he's not going to leave us.
Daily Mail quotes Wet Spam going to offer 8 million for Ricky. Well worth it, but he's not going to leave us. DisplacedFan

10:35am Thu 2 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

I would be gutted if Ricky didnt finish his career at Saints but can't see him achieving anything else with us and 8m is a lot for a player at this stage of his career.

In an Ideal world Ricky would be an awesome impact sub, but I cant see him settling for that. We will see.
I would be gutted if Ricky didnt finish his career at Saints but can't see him achieving anything else with us and 8m is a lot for a player at this stage of his career. In an Ideal world Ricky would be an awesome impact sub, but I cant see him settling for that. We will see. Jesus_02

11:47am Thu 2 Jan 14

Saint 2701 says...

£8 million for Lambert... Would be silly to turn that down!! Will always be a Southampton Legend but IMO this season he's shown us that he's not quite up to it at this level anymore or is simply just not a Pochettino type of player. Would be a real shame to see him go but £8 million for a 32 year old...
£8 million for Lambert... Would be silly to turn that down!! Will always be a Southampton Legend but IMO this season he's shown us that he's not quite up to it at this level anymore or is simply just not a Pochettino type of player. Would be a real shame to see him go but £8 million for a 32 year old... Saint 2701

11:47am Thu 2 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly).
It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role.
Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man.
I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.
The Sunseeker connection may be influential.
A connection with the Southampton Boat Show?
Unlikely I guess, but not entirely out of the window.

Apart from owning Sunseeker, this group is heavily into entertainment with huge cinema chains and karaoke bars. A move into sport has some logic.

But if the club was sold then the Liebherr's and Nicola would ensure it was very much for the right reasons and on the right terms for the club's future.

Perhaps they've been really impressed with our singing and envisage the world's biggest karaoke event?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly). It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role. Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man. I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.[/p][/quote]The Sunseeker connection may be influential.[/p][/quote]A connection with the Southampton Boat Show?[/p][/quote]Unlikely I guess, but not entirely out of the window. Apart from owning Sunseeker, this group is heavily into entertainment with huge cinema chains and karaoke bars. A move into sport has some logic. But if the club was sold then the Liebherr's and Nicola would ensure it was very much for the right reasons and on the right terms for the club's future. Perhaps they've been really impressed with our singing and envisage the world's biggest karaoke event? Confucious

11:52am Thu 2 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off. Marchwood Malcom

1:38pm Thu 2 Jan 14

andygoater1957 says...

Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
Need a new keeper as good as Boruc or better.then sell Gazza or put him out on loan for 18 mouths.
[quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]Need a new keeper as good as Boruc or better.then sell Gazza or put him out on loan for 18 mouths. andygoater1957

1:39pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Chriops says...

Let me add another to the list. Radja Nainggolan.

Were rumoured to have bid for him previously, and along with all the best players at Cagliari have been put up for sale.

While we may not have allocated large funds for transfers this window, with Astori and Nainggolan in the shop window it's possible that Cortese will move now to hold off interest from other clubs.
Let me add another to the list. Radja Nainggolan. Were rumoured to have bid for him previously, and along with all the best players at Cagliari have been put up for sale. While we may not have allocated large funds for transfers this window, with Astori and Nainggolan in the shop window it's possible that Cortese will move now to hold off interest from other clubs. Chriops

2:31pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

andygoater1957 wrote:
Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
Need a new keeper as good as Boruc or better.then sell Gazza or put him out on loan for 18 mouths.
Agree.
[quote][p][bold]andygoater1957[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]Need a new keeper as good as Boruc or better.then sell Gazza or put him out on loan for 18 mouths.[/p][/quote]Agree. Marchwood Malcom

4:43pm Thu 2 Jan 14

donni1437 says...

Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
We have had a mix of Lovren, Shaw, Clyne, Victor, Morgan and Fonte out recently so those stats show that Artur is not the only important factor to our defensive success. Victor in the middle gives us so much stability and protection, we do give up a goal threat but you have to start from a solid base. I personally can't wait to see him back, Cork has been OK, apart from Man City where he was excellent, and not really done anything wrong but he doesn't have the command of Victor.

£8m for SRL, someones having a laugh. We would be daft to turn that money down.
[quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]We have had a mix of Lovren, Shaw, Clyne, Victor, Morgan and Fonte out recently so those stats show that Artur is not the only important factor to our defensive success. Victor in the middle gives us so much stability and protection, we do give up a goal threat but you have to start from a solid base. I personally can't wait to see him back, Cork has been OK, apart from Man City where he was excellent, and not really done anything wrong but he doesn't have the command of Victor. £8m for SRL, someones having a laugh. We would be daft to turn that money down. donni1437

4:47pm Thu 2 Jan 14

right back in the bar says...

Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
All but 2 of the last 9 games have been against quality opposition, the type of clubs who are nailed on to finish top half. Wanyama was missing from all those games; he is massively influential in the defensive role. Spider, Clynne, Fonte, and Luke Shaw missed a few as well. These are also facts. Perhaps the rosy optimistic posts are from supporters who desist from rubbishing the players. In any event 9th is a realistic position for us.
[quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]All but 2 of the last 9 games have been against quality opposition, the type of clubs who are nailed on to finish top half. Wanyama was missing from all those games; he is massively influential in the defensive role. Spider, Clynne, Fonte, and Luke Shaw missed a few as well. These are also facts. Perhaps the rosy optimistic posts are from supporters who desist from rubbishing the players. In any event 9th is a realistic position for us. right back in the bar

4:47pm Thu 2 Jan 14

dadofmy3sons says...

There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup. dadofmy3sons

5:02pm Thu 2 Jan 14

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
You're right. Need to add to the above Hoover being loaned out with another CB in. But will we get that in this window.

You are spot on about having a TOP KEEPER at all times and cover for a Top Keeper. COST US ALOT OF POINTS THIS SEASON.

OSCAR did dive and he is not a clean boy as Mourinho has stated - although admired by some - he really is full of ****

Oscar Bale and Suarez are.have the diving gene so you can only applaud the Ref and that provided a good moment for the crowd yesterday.

REMEMBER WE WENT TO CARDIFF AND RULED THE ROOST with the football and the Saints Supporters were on Top. OUR AWAY FANS ARE SUPERB AND ARE UP FOR IT TO GET BEHIND THE TEAM.

Yesterday was a low point for the Saints and the atmosphere in the Pub after the game changed from relaxed to tense (reminded me of London Bridge before a Millwall game)

Chelsea Supporters are full of themselves but did not come down to FIGHT like Wet Spam. There was one idiot in the Northam that did celebrate in our end where I was stood. The way to deal with this is ZERO TOLERANCE and the Stewards soon got rid of the loon.

EXPECTED ALOT MORE YESTERDAY - we have Rickie Adam and JRod who have featured for ENGLAND. Others have featured for the U21's. WE WERE AT HOME AS WELL.

Team Selection was not correct yesterday - having Gaston start was a mistake. PLAY THE STRONGEST SIDE ALWAYS. In addition our subs weakened the play - their subs added energy.

I SALUTE OUR FAMOUS AWAY SQUAD AND THEIR ENERGY AND PASSION.

OUR DAY WILL ARRIVE AGAIN SOON WHEN WE WILL ALL CELEBRATE VICTORY AGAIN.

COYR.
[quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]You're right. Need to add to the above Hoover being loaned out with another CB in. But will we get that in this window. You are spot on about having a TOP KEEPER at all times and cover for a Top Keeper. COST US ALOT OF POINTS THIS SEASON. OSCAR did dive and he is not a clean boy as Mourinho has stated - although admired by some - he really is full of **** Oscar Bale and Suarez are.have the diving gene so you can only applaud the Ref and that provided a good moment for the crowd yesterday. REMEMBER WE WENT TO CARDIFF AND RULED THE ROOST with the football and the Saints Supporters were on Top. OUR AWAY FANS ARE SUPERB AND ARE UP FOR IT TO GET BEHIND THE TEAM. Yesterday was a low point for the Saints and the atmosphere in the Pub after the game changed from relaxed to tense (reminded me of London Bridge before a Millwall game) Chelsea Supporters are full of themselves but did not come down to FIGHT like Wet Spam. There was one idiot in the Northam that did celebrate in our end where I was stood. The way to deal with this is ZERO TOLERANCE and the Stewards soon got rid of the loon. EXPECTED ALOT MORE YESTERDAY - we have Rickie Adam and JRod who have featured for ENGLAND. Others have featured for the U21's. WE WERE AT HOME AS WELL. Team Selection was not correct yesterday - having Gaston start was a mistake. PLAY THE STRONGEST SIDE ALWAYS. In addition our subs weakened the play - their subs added energy. I SALUTE OUR FAMOUS AWAY SQUAD AND THEIR ENERGY AND PASSION. OUR DAY WILL ARRIVE AGAIN SOON WHEN WE WILL ALL CELEBRATE VICTORY AGAIN. COYR. REDARMYRULETHESOUTH

5:15pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Saintly Sam says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
£8 million for Lambert... Would be silly to turn that down!! Will always be a Southampton Legend but IMO this season he's shown us that he's not quite up to it at this level anymore or is simply just not a Pochettino type of player. Would be a real shame to see him go but £8 million for a 32 year old...
I agree it's a lot for a 32 year old, but we need another goal scorer in place before we even think of letting him go, we are too light up front.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: £8 million for Lambert... Would be silly to turn that down!! Will always be a Southampton Legend but IMO this season he's shown us that he's not quite up to it at this level anymore or is simply just not a Pochettino type of player. Would be a real shame to see him go but £8 million for a 32 year old...[/p][/quote]I agree it's a lot for a 32 year old, but we need another goal scorer in place before we even think of letting him go, we are too light up front. Saintly Sam

5:34pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
All but 2 of the last 9 games have been against quality opposition, the type of clubs who are nailed on to finish top half. Wanyama was missing from all those games; he is massively influential in the defensive role. Spider, Clynne, Fonte, and Luke Shaw missed a few as well. These are also facts. Perhaps the rosy optimistic posts are from supporters who desist from rubbishing the players. In any event 9th is a realistic position for us.
You make a valid point, but we also saw Gazza and Davis between the sticks last season and they were none to impressive. If we compare Boruc to other Premiership Goalkeepers and his stats compare well.
Boruc tops the goalkeepers save percentage table with an 80% ratio.
Boruc conceded a goal every 142 minutes, not bad I think you'll agree.

And yes we've had injuries, but that's part and parcel of football. And Clyne IMO we've missed, but the replacements have done ok. We all know where the chaff is in the squad, I for one have complete faith in Poch's weeding abilities.

And a quality new centre back is definitely needed if the club are to mix it with the big boys. The Yoshidas and Hoovers of this world might suffice for bottom half of the table, but not for top eight.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]All but 2 of the last 9 games have been against quality opposition, the type of clubs who are nailed on to finish top half. Wanyama was missing from all those games; he is massively influential in the defensive role. Spider, Clynne, Fonte, and Luke Shaw missed a few as well. These are also facts. Perhaps the rosy optimistic posts are from supporters who desist from rubbishing the players. In any event 9th is a realistic position for us.[/p][/quote]You make a valid point, but we also saw Gazza and Davis between the sticks last season and they were none to impressive. If we compare Boruc to other Premiership Goalkeepers and his stats compare well. Boruc tops the goalkeepers save percentage table with an 80% ratio. Boruc conceded a goal every 142 minutes, not bad I think you'll agree. And yes we've had injuries, but that's part and parcel of football. And Clyne IMO we've missed, but the replacements have done ok. We all know where the chaff is in the squad, I for one have complete faith in Poch's weeding abilities. And a quality new centre back is definitely needed if the club are to mix it with the big boys. The Yoshidas and Hoovers of this world might suffice for bottom half of the table, but not for top eight. Marchwood Malcom

5:41pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH wrote:
Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
You're right. Need to add to the above Hoover being loaned out with another CB in. But will we get that in this window.

You are spot on about having a TOP KEEPER at all times and cover for a Top Keeper. COST US ALOT OF POINTS THIS SEASON.

OSCAR did dive and he is not a clean boy as Mourinho has stated - although admired by some - he really is full of ****

Oscar Bale and Suarez are.have the diving gene so you can only applaud the Ref and that provided a good moment for the crowd yesterday.

REMEMBER WE WENT TO CARDIFF AND RULED THE ROOST with the football and the Saints Supporters were on Top. OUR AWAY FANS ARE SUPERB AND ARE UP FOR IT TO GET BEHIND THE TEAM.

Yesterday was a low point for the Saints and the atmosphere in the Pub after the game changed from relaxed to tense (reminded me of London Bridge before a Millwall game)

Chelsea Supporters are full of themselves but did not come down to FIGHT like Wet Spam. There was one idiot in the Northam that did celebrate in our end where I was stood. The way to deal with this is ZERO TOLERANCE and the Stewards soon got rid of the loon.

EXPECTED ALOT MORE YESTERDAY - we have Rickie Adam and JRod who have featured for ENGLAND. Others have featured for the U21's. WE WERE AT HOME AS WELL.

Team Selection was not correct yesterday - having Gaston start was a mistake. PLAY THE STRONGEST SIDE ALWAYS. In addition our subs weakened the play - their subs added energy.

I SALUTE OUR FAMOUS AWAY SQUAD AND THEIR ENERGY AND PASSION.

OUR DAY WILL ARRIVE AGAIN SOON WHEN WE WILL ALL CELEBRATE VICTORY AGAIN.

COYR.
Quality! Optimism whilst recognising our deficiencies and the manager's mistakes. We are very lucky to have Poch, but I agree he made a mistake in starting Gaston. IMO Poch is the best man for the job. The young talent we have at the club and Poch is a winning combination, it does need time and money though.
[quote][p][bold]REDARMYRULETHESOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]You're right. Need to add to the above Hoover being loaned out with another CB in. But will we get that in this window. You are spot on about having a TOP KEEPER at all times and cover for a Top Keeper. COST US ALOT OF POINTS THIS SEASON. OSCAR did dive and he is not a clean boy as Mourinho has stated - although admired by some - he really is full of **** Oscar Bale and Suarez are.have the diving gene so you can only applaud the Ref and that provided a good moment for the crowd yesterday. REMEMBER WE WENT TO CARDIFF AND RULED THE ROOST with the football and the Saints Supporters were on Top. OUR AWAY FANS ARE SUPERB AND ARE UP FOR IT TO GET BEHIND THE TEAM. Yesterday was a low point for the Saints and the atmosphere in the Pub after the game changed from relaxed to tense (reminded me of London Bridge before a Millwall game) Chelsea Supporters are full of themselves but did not come down to FIGHT like Wet Spam. There was one idiot in the Northam that did celebrate in our end where I was stood. The way to deal with this is ZERO TOLERANCE and the Stewards soon got rid of the loon. EXPECTED ALOT MORE YESTERDAY - we have Rickie Adam and JRod who have featured for ENGLAND. Others have featured for the U21's. WE WERE AT HOME AS WELL. Team Selection was not correct yesterday - having Gaston start was a mistake. PLAY THE STRONGEST SIDE ALWAYS. In addition our subs weakened the play - their subs added energy. I SALUTE OUR FAMOUS AWAY SQUAD AND THEIR ENERGY AND PASSION. OUR DAY WILL ARRIVE AGAIN SOON WHEN WE WILL ALL CELEBRATE VICTORY AGAIN. COYR.[/p][/quote]Quality! Optimism whilst recognising our deficiencies and the manager's mistakes. We are very lucky to have Poch, but I agree he made a mistake in starting Gaston. IMO Poch is the best man for the job. The young talent we have at the club and Poch is a winning combination, it does need time and money though. Marchwood Malcom

5:59pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

Osvaldo has been in Italy for the last week working for Cortese to broker a deal for Mario Balotelli, watch this space and Rickie will go to Wet Spam to soften the price.
Osvaldo has been in Italy for the last week working for Cortese to broker a deal for Mario Balotelli, watch this space and Rickie will go to Wet Spam to soften the price. bigfella777

6:02pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bigfella777 says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR. bigfella777

7:03pm Thu 2 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute? OSPREYSAINT

8:33pm Thu 2 Jan 14

batesieboy says...

SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly).
It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role.
Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man.
I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.
The Sunseeker connection may be influential.
A connection with the Southampton Boat Show?
I am partial to chinese / indian or a blonde leggy Russian s . But hope the Marcus connection lives on . I certainly will raise a glass to Liebherr s tonigh . C O Y R t
Not too fussy then?
[quote][p][bold]SPIKEISLANDTRADER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Don't shoot the messenger, but I read this on football rumours, (it was removed very quickly). It said that Saints were to be sold by the Liebherrs and sold to the Dalian Wanda group... with Cortese remaining in his current role. Can't see this happening, but stranger things have happened. The owner is apparently China's richest man. I'd rate this one 1/10, but it might have some substance.[/p][/quote]The Sunseeker connection may be influential.[/p][/quote]A connection with the Southampton Boat Show?[/p][/quote]I am partial to chinese / indian or a blonde leggy Russian s . But hope the Marcus connection lives on . I certainly will raise a glass to Liebherr s tonigh . C O Y R t[/p][/quote]Not too fussy then? batesieboy

1:13am Fri 3 Jan 14

DisplacedFan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man? DisplacedFan

1:33am Fri 3 Jan 14

st1halo says...

Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
I'd suggest that the lack of realism was in your own post. If the responsibility for goals against us lays entirely and exclusively with the goalkeeper then your argument and your stats would hold water. But it doesn't does it? The responsibility is in the hands of the entire defensive unit. Boruc's stats have the benefit of our strongest defence in front of him. If you truly want to quote FACTS then you need to back up the stats with information about how many shots each keeper dealt with, how many defensive mistakes were made, how many times the defence was breached etc etc.
I am not trying to say that Gazza and Kelvin are better keepers or that we have the perfect squad as we all realise improvements will need to be made to reach our goals. I am just pointing out that a) scapegoating keepers when we have conceded goals due to a number of reasons such as a crippled defence is pointless and b) you have a way to go before you corner the market on realism.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest that the lack of realism was in your own post. If the responsibility for goals against us lays entirely and exclusively with the goalkeeper then your argument and your stats would hold water. But it doesn't does it? The responsibility is in the hands of the entire defensive unit. Boruc's stats have the benefit of our strongest defence in front of him. If you truly want to quote FACTS then you need to back up the stats with information about how many shots each keeper dealt with, how many defensive mistakes were made, how many times the defence was breached etc etc. I am not trying to say that Gazza and Kelvin are better keepers or that we have the perfect squad as we all realise improvements will need to be made to reach our goals. I am just pointing out that a) scapegoating keepers when we have conceded goals due to a number of reasons such as a crippled defence is pointless and b) you have a way to go before you corner the market on realism. STID st1halo

2:51pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Quinn79 says...

st1halo wrote:
Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
I'd suggest that the lack of realism was in your own post. If the responsibility for goals against us lays entirely and exclusively with the goalkeeper then your argument and your stats would hold water. But it doesn't does it? The responsibility is in the hands of the entire defensive unit. Boruc's stats have the benefit of our strongest defence in front of him. If you truly want to quote FACTS then you need to back up the stats with information about how many shots each keeper dealt with, how many defensive mistakes were made, how many times the defence was breached etc etc.
I am not trying to say that Gazza and Kelvin are better keepers or that we have the perfect squad as we all realise improvements will need to be made to reach our goals. I am just pointing out that a) scapegoating keepers when we have conceded goals due to a number of reasons such as a crippled defence is pointless and b) you have a way to go before you corner the market on realism.

STID
Okay, then we are not just scapegoating Kelvin and Gazza as when they have played the likes of Yoshida, Hooiveld and Fox have played infront of them. Which then says the depth of the squad is lacking. While I do not havehard FACTS to hand any matches or highlights I have seen we have shipped lots of goals than any of the above players have been involved.

So it all coms back to confidence. Almost every pundit has said that the Saints defece does not have confidence in Not-Boruc in goal. And for me Fox, Hooiveld,Kelvin ad Gazza are not premiership players, some because they are not yet ready and others just because they just aren't.

So those are the places that should be improved in the squad..
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest that the lack of realism was in your own post. If the responsibility for goals against us lays entirely and exclusively with the goalkeeper then your argument and your stats would hold water. But it doesn't does it? The responsibility is in the hands of the entire defensive unit. Boruc's stats have the benefit of our strongest defence in front of him. If you truly want to quote FACTS then you need to back up the stats with information about how many shots each keeper dealt with, how many defensive mistakes were made, how many times the defence was breached etc etc. I am not trying to say that Gazza and Kelvin are better keepers or that we have the perfect squad as we all realise improvements will need to be made to reach our goals. I am just pointing out that a) scapegoating keepers when we have conceded goals due to a number of reasons such as a crippled defence is pointless and b) you have a way to go before you corner the market on realism. STID[/p][/quote]Okay, then we are not just scapegoating Kelvin and Gazza as when they have played the likes of Yoshida, Hooiveld and Fox have played infront of them. Which then says the depth of the squad is lacking. While I do not havehard FACTS to hand any matches or highlights I have seen we have shipped lots of goals than any of the above players have been involved. So it all coms back to confidence. Almost every pundit has said that the Saints defece does not have confidence in Not-Boruc in goal. And for me Fox, Hooiveld,Kelvin ad Gazza are not premiership players, some because they are not yet ready and others just because they just aren't. So those are the places that should be improved in the squad.. Quinn79

4:06pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Alicesdad says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Osvaldo has been in Italy for the last week working for Cortese to broker a deal for Mario Balotelli, watch this space and Rickie will go to Wet Spam to soften the price.
No he hasn't.
Lay off the strong cheese at suppertime and these surreal dreams will stop.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo has been in Italy for the last week working for Cortese to broker a deal for Mario Balotelli, watch this space and Rickie will go to Wet Spam to soften the price.[/p][/quote]No he hasn't. Lay off the strong cheese at suppertime and these surreal dreams will stop. Alicesdad

4:19am Sat 4 Jan 14

st1halo says...

Quinn79 wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Marchwood Malcom wrote:
I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we,
Boruc played 13 conceded 8
Gazza played 6 conceded 10
Davis played 2 conceded 5

Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt.

And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
I'd suggest that the lack of realism was in your own post. If the responsibility for goals against us lays entirely and exclusively with the goalkeeper then your argument and your stats would hold water. But it doesn't does it? The responsibility is in the hands of the entire defensive unit. Boruc's stats have the benefit of our strongest defence in front of him. If you truly want to quote FACTS then you need to back up the stats with information about how many shots each keeper dealt with, how many defensive mistakes were made, how many times the defence was breached etc etc.
I am not trying to say that Gazza and Kelvin are better keepers or that we have the perfect squad as we all realise improvements will need to be made to reach our goals. I am just pointing out that a) scapegoating keepers when we have conceded goals due to a number of reasons such as a crippled defence is pointless and b) you have a way to go before you corner the market on realism.

STID
Okay, then we are not just scapegoating Kelvin and Gazza as when they have played the likes of Yoshida, Hooiveld and Fox have played infront of them. Which then says the depth of the squad is lacking. While I do not havehard FACTS to hand any matches or highlights I have seen we have shipped lots of goals than any of the above players have been involved.

So it all coms back to confidence. Almost every pundit has said that the Saints defece does not have confidence in Not-Boruc in goal. And for me Fox, Hooiveld,Kelvin ad Gazza are not premiership players, some because they are not yet ready and others just because they just aren't.

So those are the places that should be improved in the squad..
Agree mate that our second choices considerably weaken the team but I think the real problem has been that we have lost 5 of our best back 6 all at once at the same time we had our toughest and most congested run of games. This is the primary reason for the escalation of goals conceded. Too easy to blame it on keepers or certain individuals. Hooiveld played ok at Arsenal becase he was he only addition in the usual back 6 in place of Loren. If you took out Boruc, Fonte, Shaw, Clyne, Wanyama from that game we would have been slaughtered. Some players are second choice for a reason, play them all and you have a second rate team. I'm sure MP knows exactly who will need replacing as we move forward, as we do.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Quinn79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest that the lack of realism was in your own post. If the responsibility for goals against us lays entirely and exclusively with the goalkeeper then your argument and your stats would hold water. But it doesn't does it? The responsibility is in the hands of the entire defensive unit. Boruc's stats have the benefit of our strongest defence in front of him. If you truly want to quote FACTS then you need to back up the stats with information about how many shots each keeper dealt with, how many defensive mistakes were made, how many times the defence was breached etc etc. I am not trying to say that Gazza and Kelvin are better keepers or that we have the perfect squad as we all realise improvements will need to be made to reach our goals. I am just pointing out that a) scapegoating keepers when we have conceded goals due to a number of reasons such as a crippled defence is pointless and b) you have a way to go before you corner the market on realism. STID[/p][/quote]Okay, then we are not just scapegoating Kelvin and Gazza as when they have played the likes of Yoshida, Hooiveld and Fox have played infront of them. Which then says the depth of the squad is lacking. While I do not havehard FACTS to hand any matches or highlights I have seen we have shipped lots of goals than any of the above players have been involved. So it all coms back to confidence. Almost every pundit has said that the Saints defece does not have confidence in Not-Boruc in goal. And for me Fox, Hooiveld,Kelvin ad Gazza are not premiership players, some because they are not yet ready and others just because they just aren't. So those are the places that should be improved in the squad..[/p][/quote]Agree mate that our second choices considerably weaken the team but I think the real problem has been that we have lost 5 of our best back 6 all at once at the same time we had our toughest and most congested run of games. This is the primary reason for the escalation of goals conceded. Too easy to blame it on keepers or certain individuals. Hooiveld played ok at Arsenal becase he was he only addition in the usual back 6 in place of Loren. If you took out Boruc, Fonte, Shaw, Clyne, Wanyama from that game we would have been slaughtered. Some players are second choice for a reason, play them all and you have a second rate team. I'm sure MP knows exactly who will need replacing as we move forward, as we do. STID st1halo

10:47am Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man?[/p][/quote]The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly. OSPREYSAINT

11:29am Tue 7 Jan 14

Costa Baz says...

Have seen rumours about Premier league clubs being interested in Karl Darlow, Forest keeper. Looked competent enough against the Hoofers, including coming for crosses, without being over tested.

Read somewhere tha Yoshida is in talks with Japanese clubs, to get regular games. That would leave us with Hoover as back up. Gulp.
Have seen rumours about Premier league clubs being interested in Karl Darlow, Forest keeper. Looked competent enough against the Hoofers, including coming for crosses, without being over tested. Read somewhere tha Yoshida is in talks with Japanese clubs, to get regular games. That would leave us with Hoover as back up. Gulp. Costa Baz

1:23pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Jesus_02 says...

Quinn79 wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Marchwood Malcom wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.
I'd suggest that the lack of realism was in your own post. If the responsibility for goals against us lays entirely and exclusively with the goalkeeper then your argument and your stats would hold water. But it doesn't does it? The responsibility is in the hands of the entire defensive unit. Boruc's stats have the benefit of our strongest defence in front of him. If you truly want to quote FACTS then you need to back up the stats with information about how many shots each keeper dealt with, how many defensive mistakes were made, how many times the defence was breached etc etc. I am not trying to say that Gazza and Kelvin are better keepers or that we have the perfect squad as we all realise improvements will need to be made to reach our goals. I am just pointing out that a) scapegoating keepers when we have conceded goals due to a number of reasons such as a crippled defence is pointless and b) you have a way to go before you corner the market on realism. STID
Okay, then we are not just scapegoating Kelvin and Gazza as when they have played the likes of Yoshida, Hooiveld and Fox have played infront of them. Which then says the depth of the squad is lacking. While I do not havehard FACTS to hand any matches or highlights I have seen we have shipped lots of goals than any of the above players have been involved. So it all coms back to confidence. Almost every pundit has said that the Saints defece does not have confidence in Not-Boruc in goal. And for me Fox, Hooiveld,Kelvin ad Gazza are not premiership players, some because they are not yet ready and others just because they just aren't. So those are the places that should be improved in the squad..
The problem with the Keeper is this, Kelvin was never really great at Premiership level and Boruc is one of the best in the League.

Boruc make our defense look better than it is.

Kelvin is an absolute top bloke who turned down West Ham when he could have made a money move and was also one of the players that insisted junior players got paid before him when times where hard.

He was a massive part in the team that achieved back to back promotions and HE made our defense look good at Championship and L1 level.

He needs to be treated with respect but he is not Premiership Class. GK is a critical place to have a weak link.
[quote][p][bold]Quinn79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marchwood Malcom[/bold] wrote: I read some rosy and optimistic posts from last night, but unfortunately they're completely undermined by their lack of realism. I think we should deal in facts and not cliches. Let's look at some FACTS shall we, Boruc played 13 conceded 8 Gazza played 6 conceded 10 Davis played 2 conceded 5 Facts don't lie! If the club don't get some proper cover for Boruc and another good centre back to complement the brilliant Lovren, we will struggle against the class teams. Things ARE staring to fall into place, but a couple of pieces are still missing. Two further signings are required and of course Fox and Guly need to be sold or loaned out, that is if there are indeed any takers, which I strongly doubt. And Poch should loan Gazza out so he can make his bones at a lower level, with Davis slowly being pensioned off.[/p][/quote]I'd suggest that the lack of realism was in your own post. If the responsibility for goals against us lays entirely and exclusively with the goalkeeper then your argument and your stats would hold water. But it doesn't does it? The responsibility is in the hands of the entire defensive unit. Boruc's stats have the benefit of our strongest defence in front of him. If you truly want to quote FACTS then you need to back up the stats with information about how many shots each keeper dealt with, how many defensive mistakes were made, how many times the defence was breached etc etc. I am not trying to say that Gazza and Kelvin are better keepers or that we have the perfect squad as we all realise improvements will need to be made to reach our goals. I am just pointing out that a) scapegoating keepers when we have conceded goals due to a number of reasons such as a crippled defence is pointless and b) you have a way to go before you corner the market on realism. STID[/p][/quote]Okay, then we are not just scapegoating Kelvin and Gazza as when they have played the likes of Yoshida, Hooiveld and Fox have played infront of them. Which then says the depth of the squad is lacking. While I do not havehard FACTS to hand any matches or highlights I have seen we have shipped lots of goals than any of the above players have been involved. So it all coms back to confidence. Almost every pundit has said that the Saints defece does not have confidence in Not-Boruc in goal. And for me Fox, Hooiveld,Kelvin ad Gazza are not premiership players, some because they are not yet ready and others just because they just aren't. So those are the places that should be improved in the squad..[/p][/quote]The problem with the Keeper is this, Kelvin was never really great at Premiership level and Boruc is one of the best in the League. Boruc make our defense look better than it is. Kelvin is an absolute top bloke who turned down West Ham when he could have made a money move and was also one of the players that insisted junior players got paid before him when times where hard. He was a massive part in the team that achieved back to back promotions and HE made our defense look good at Championship and L1 level. He needs to be treated with respect but he is not Premiership Class. GK is a critical place to have a weak link. Jesus_02

1:39pm Tue 7 Jan 14

SouthLondonSaint says...

A lot of talk about getting a new keeper, ive always thought Anders Lindegaard the united keeper looks good and he isnt getting a shout at united maybe worth a bid? When is Boruc expected to return he is a beast... if its in the near future i wouldt bother with a keeper Boruc has made some mistakes but made some truely sublime saves. He gets my vote :)
A lot of talk about getting a new keeper, ive always thought Anders Lindegaard the united keeper looks good and he isnt getting a shout at united maybe worth a bid? When is Boruc expected to return he is a beast... if its in the near future i wouldt bother with a keeper Boruc has made some mistakes but made some truely sublime saves. He gets my vote :) SouthLondonSaint

6:45pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Chriops says...

SouthLondonSaint wrote:
A lot of talk about getting a new keeper, ive always thought Anders Lindegaard the united keeper looks good and he isnt getting a shout at united maybe worth a bid? When is Boruc expected to return he is a beast... if its in the near future i wouldt bother with a keeper Boruc has made some mistakes but made some truely sublime saves. He gets my vote :)
Lindegaard is a great young keeper, but I can't see United letting him go. Bit harsh on him, since with De Gea being so young, he's not going to have much of a career unless he leaves.
[quote][p][bold]SouthLondonSaint[/bold] wrote: A lot of talk about getting a new keeper, ive always thought Anders Lindegaard the united keeper looks good and he isnt getting a shout at united maybe worth a bid? When is Boruc expected to return he is a beast... if its in the near future i wouldt bother with a keeper Boruc has made some mistakes but made some truely sublime saves. He gets my vote :)[/p][/quote]Lindegaard is a great young keeper, but I can't see United letting him go. Bit harsh on him, since with De Gea being so young, he's not going to have much of a career unless he leaves. Chriops

6:47pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Malcombe says...

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7:04pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

What Virus protection were you using at the time?
What Virus protection were you using at the time? OSPREYSAINT

7:46pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Malcombe says...

OSPREYSAINT

Thank you my friend for a quick response, I am on a free download Superantispyware, I been using it for several months, there isn't many free malwares if any, what do you recommend other than buying and if I need to buy what one?
OSPREYSAINT Thank you my friend for a quick response, I am on a free download Superantispyware, I been using it for several months, there isn't many free malwares if any, what do you recommend other than buying and if I need to buy what one? Malcombe

8:51pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Malcombe wrote:
OSPREYSAINT

Thank you my friend for a quick response, I am on a free download Superantispyware, I been using it for several months, there isn't many free malwares if any, what do you recommend other than buying and if I need to buy what one?
I use Norton 360 but even that doesn't catch everything. Try Trend House Call I believe that's a free one. Perhaps someone more techy can help here.
I guess if you are going to buy one McAfee or Kaspersky are options but I found them very intrusive in use.
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: OSPREYSAINT Thank you my friend for a quick response, I am on a free download Superantispyware, I been using it for several months, there isn't many free malwares if any, what do you recommend other than buying and if I need to buy what one?[/p][/quote]I use Norton 360 but even that doesn't catch everything. Try Trend House Call I believe that's a free one. Perhaps someone more techy can help here. I guess if you are going to buy one McAfee or Kaspersky are options but I found them very intrusive in use. OSPREYSAINT

9:03pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.
Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque.

As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man?[/p][/quote]The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.[/p][/quote]Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice. Strasbourg Saint

9:51pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.
Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque.

As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.
The issue has triggered a bit of the devil in me, I don't like injustice even more so when it affects my Club!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man?[/p][/quote]The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.[/p][/quote]Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.[/p][/quote]The issue has triggered a bit of the devil in me, I don't like injustice even more so when it affects my Club! OSPREYSAINT

10:32pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

I am not happy with the ticketing arrangements for the Yeovil game and I think at £20.00 it's going to keep the gate down.
I am not happy with the ticketing arrangements for the Yeovil game and I think at £20.00 it's going to keep the gate down. OSPREYSAINT

10:40pm Tue 7 Jan 14

dadofmy3sons says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.
Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque.

As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.
The issue has triggered a bit of the devil in me, I don't like injustice even more so when it affects my Club!
SEE !
I told you.
Astori.
His agent is a Max Bygraves impersonator.
I wanna sell you Astori.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man?[/p][/quote]The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.[/p][/quote]Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.[/p][/quote]The issue has triggered a bit of the devil in me, I don't like injustice even more so when it affects my Club![/p][/quote]SEE ! I told you. Astori. His agent is a Max Bygraves impersonator. I wanna sell you Astori. dadofmy3sons

10:45pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza.
There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin
There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur.
So who are we going to buy?
No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that.
Buy Davide Astori.
That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear.
Can you imagine Dejan betting even better?
At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks.
The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further.
It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.
Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque.

As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.
The issue has triggered a bit of the devil in me, I don't like injustice even more so when it affects my Club!
SEE !
I told you.
Astori.
His agent is a Max Bygraves impersonator.
I wanna sell you Astori.
Yup that's one of mine.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man?[/p][/quote]The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.[/p][/quote]Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.[/p][/quote]The issue has triggered a bit of the devil in me, I don't like injustice even more so when it affects my Club![/p][/quote]SEE ! I told you. Astori. His agent is a Max Bygraves impersonator. I wanna sell you Astori.[/p][/quote]Yup that's one of mine. OSPREYSAINT

10:58pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Have seen rumours about Premier league clubs being interested in Karl Darlow, Forest keeper. Looked competent enough against the Hoofers, including coming for crosses, without being over tested.

Read somewhere tha Yoshida is in talks with Japanese clubs, to get regular games. That would leave us with Hoover as back up. Gulp.
If Yoshida is going out on loan it's because Saints are bringing another defender in. The issues are plain to see - there's no way NC or MP would allow a player to go if they didn't have an option already on the go.

Could it be that Astori is finally coming to Southampton? Very exciting if true.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Have seen rumours about Premier league clubs being interested in Karl Darlow, Forest keeper. Looked competent enough against the Hoofers, including coming for crosses, without being over tested. Read somewhere tha Yoshida is in talks with Japanese clubs, to get regular games. That would leave us with Hoover as back up. Gulp.[/p][/quote]If Yoshida is going out on loan it's because Saints are bringing another defender in. The issues are plain to see - there's no way NC or MP would allow a player to go if they didn't have an option already on the go. Could it be that Astori is finally coming to Southampton? Very exciting if true. Stroppy_gramps

11:06pm Tue 7 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Have seen rumours about Premier league clubs being interested in Karl Darlow, Forest keeper. Looked competent enough against the Hoofers, including coming for crosses, without being over tested.

Read somewhere tha Yoshida is in talks with Japanese clubs, to get regular games. That would leave us with Hoover as back up. Gulp.
If Yoshida is going out on loan it's because Saints are bringing another defender in. The issues are plain to see - there's no way NC or MP would allow a player to go if they didn't have an option already on the go.

Could it be that Astori is finally coming to Southampton? Very exciting if true.
http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/sport/footb
all/transfers/transf
er-news-southampton-
weigh-up-125m-bid-fo
r-cagliari-defender-
davide-astori--repor
ts-9032780.html

I doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: Have seen rumours about Premier league clubs being interested in Karl Darlow, Forest keeper. Looked competent enough against the Hoofers, including coming for crosses, without being over tested. Read somewhere tha Yoshida is in talks with Japanese clubs, to get regular games. That would leave us with Hoover as back up. Gulp.[/p][/quote]If Yoshida is going out on loan it's because Saints are bringing another defender in. The issues are plain to see - there's no way NC or MP would allow a player to go if they didn't have an option already on the go. Could it be that Astori is finally coming to Southampton? Very exciting if true.[/p][/quote]http://www.independe nt.co.uk/sport/footb all/transfers/transf er-news-southampton- weigh-up-125m-bid-fo r-cagliari-defender- davide-astori--repor ts-9032780.html I doubt it. OSPREYSAINT

12:05am Wed 8 Jan 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.
Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.
POINT OF ORDER: I've given up drinking, which means I've started doing things like going to the cinema. I went to see American Hustle tonight. You lot would like it: it's all about these guys who invent a fake sheik to con money out of a load of dodgy b@stards. Can't think who it reminds me of...
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man?[/p][/quote]The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.[/p][/quote]Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.[/p][/quote]POINT OF ORDER: I've given up drinking, which means I've started doing things like going to the cinema. I went to see American Hustle tonight. You lot would like it: it's all about these guys who invent a fake sheik to con money out of a load of dodgy b@stards. Can't think who it reminds me of... Santa Retfordia

8:25am Wed 8 Jan 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.
Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.
POINT OF ORDER: I've given up drinking, which means I've started doing things like going to the cinema. I went to see American Hustle tonight. You lot would like it: it's all about these guys who invent a fake sheik to con money out of a load of dodgy b@stards. Can't think who it reminds me of...
We went to see The Hunger Games. You put a load of revolting people in an arena and they fight to the death as a salient reminder to everyone that this is what can happen when you fall down the social order and hit rock bottom.

Question: Why hasn't the FA introduced this kind of spectacle in Fratton?
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man?[/p][/quote]The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.[/p][/quote]Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.[/p][/quote]POINT OF ORDER: I've given up drinking, which means I've started doing things like going to the cinema. I went to see American Hustle tonight. You lot would like it: it's all about these guys who invent a fake sheik to con money out of a load of dodgy b@stards. Can't think who it reminds me of...[/p][/quote]We went to see The Hunger Games. You put a load of revolting people in an arena and they fight to the death as a salient reminder to everyone that this is what can happen when you fall down the social order and hit rock bottom. Question: Why hasn't the FA introduced this kind of spectacle in Fratton? Strasbourg Saint

9:25am Wed 8 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.
They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.
Et tu Brute?
But Brutus was an honorable man?
The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.
Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.
POINT OF ORDER: I've given up drinking, which means I've started doing things like going to the cinema. I went to see American Hustle tonight. You lot would like it: it's all about these guys who invent a fake sheik to con money out of a load of dodgy b@stards. Can't think who it reminds me of...
Only alchohol I hope! Love the fake sheik analogy, any Russians in it?
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: There isn't a better 3rd choice keeper available than Gazza. There isn't a better 2d choice keeper available than Kelvin There isn't a better 1st choice keeper available than Artur. So who are we going to buy? No one, we will make Gazza better and Kelvin will help to do that. Buy Davide Astori. That is a win-win situation as we will have another very good centre back, and the four who are currently fighting for the 2 places will step up a gear. Can you imagine Dejan betting even better? At the end of this season I expect there to be large clearing of the decks. The players who got us here have done brilliantly but we need better than them if we are to improve any further. It is noticeable that many of the players who are now fringe are not getting anywhere near the first team, it is the kids who are on the bench and who were preferred in the League Cup.[/p][/quote]They could get Cesar, he's sat in the Championship doing nothing at QPR.[/p][/quote]Et tu Brute?[/p][/quote]But Brutus was an honorable man?[/p][/quote]The Jury is out on that, the FA say he hasn't got a case to answer for, I am not so sure, he insulted Caesar, along the lines of "Since you led Italy you have changed, you never used to be like that", then he stabbed him, allegedly.[/p][/quote]Ha! Osprey, have you been drinking with Retford? Your wit is becoming very Retfordesque. As for transfers, I see that Radja Nainggolan has left Cagliari and signed for Roma for the season with a view to a permanent move. So he won't be coming. However, a deal of that sorts for Astori could be nice.[/p][/quote]POINT OF ORDER: I've given up drinking, which means I've started doing things like going to the cinema. I went to see American Hustle tonight. You lot would like it: it's all about these guys who invent a fake sheik to con money out of a load of dodgy b@stards. Can't think who it reminds me of...[/p][/quote]Only alchohol I hope! Love the fake sheik analogy, any Russians in it? OSPREYSAINT

3:25pm Mon 13 Jan 14

alanrr says...

Poch to AC Milan
Poch to AC Milan alanrr

4:47pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Horseman says...

Daily Mirror are saying a swap deal is possible with Osvaldo for Fredy Guarin of Inter.
Sounds unlikley to me, and they claim the Daily Mail is the source, but I could only find it on the Mirror site:
http://www.mirror.co
.uk/sport/football/t
ransfer-news/chelsea
-lose-out-southampto
n-fredy-3006776
Daily Mirror are saying a swap deal is possible with Osvaldo for Fredy Guarin of Inter. Sounds unlikley to me, and they claim the Daily Mail is the source, but I could only find it on the Mirror site: http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/t ransfer-news/chelsea -lose-out-southampto n-fredy-3006776 Horseman

7:27pm Mon 13 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

alanrr wrote:
Poch to AC Milan
That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: Poch to AC Milan[/p][/quote]That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? OSPREYSAINT

11:40am Tue 14 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Has anyone seen NC lately?
Has anyone seen NC lately? OSPREYSAINT

1:07pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
alanrr wrote:
Poch to AC Milan
That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: Poch to AC Milan[/p][/quote]That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?[/p][/quote]something about this post smells a bit fishy to me..... Stroppy_gramps

1:20pm Tue 14 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
alanrr wrote:
Poch to AC Milan
That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....
Which post?
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: Poch to AC Milan[/p][/quote]That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?[/p][/quote]something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....[/p][/quote]Which post? OSPREYSAINT

1:56pm Tue 14 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Stroppy_gramps wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
alanrr wrote:
Poch to AC Milan
That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....
Which post?
There is a thread on the subject, so move on.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: Poch to AC Milan[/p][/quote]That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?[/p][/quote]something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....[/p][/quote]Which post?[/p][/quote]There is a thread on the subject, so move on. OSPREYSAINT

4:57pm Tue 14 Jan 14

SaintJD says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Stroppy_gramps wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
alanrr wrote:
Poch to AC Milan
That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....
Which post?
There is a thread on the subject, so move on.
More importantly, has anyone informed Clarence Seedorf?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: Poch to AC Milan[/p][/quote]That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?[/p][/quote]something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....[/p][/quote]Which post?[/p][/quote]There is a thread on the subject, so move on.[/p][/quote]More importantly, has anyone informed Clarence Seedorf? SaintJD

4:57pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Blackknight says...

The Sun - Luke Shaw - £30m - Man City

Manure City can have Fox for £30m.
The Sun - Luke Shaw - £30m - Man City Manure City can have Fox for £30m. Blackknight

8:29pm Tue 14 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintJD wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Stroppy_gramps wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
alanrr wrote:
Poch to AC Milan
That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....
Which post?
There is a thread on the subject, so move on.
More importantly, has anyone informed Clarence Seedorf?
He probably reads the DE regularly.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: Poch to AC Milan[/p][/quote]That would a great move for Poch, but an extremely bad one for us don't you think, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?[/p][/quote]something about this post smells a bit fishy to me.....[/p][/quote]Which post?[/p][/quote]There is a thread on the subject, so move on.[/p][/quote]More importantly, has anyone informed Clarence Seedorf?[/p][/quote]He probably reads the DE regularly. OSPREYSAINT

3:56pm Mon 20 Jan 14

marz194 says...

lets keep the best player please...
lets keep the best player please... marz194

3:57pm Mon 20 Jan 14

marz194 says...

marz194 wrote:
lets keep the best player please...
*players
[quote][p][bold]marz194[/bold] wrote: lets keep the best player please...[/p][/quote]*players marz194

4:22pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Alicesdad says...

I don't know what's going on?

What's happening?
I don't know what's going on? What's happening? Alicesdad

5:06pm Mon 20 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I don't know what's going on?

What's happening?
Go back to sleep we will tell you when something happens.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I don't know what's going on? What's happening?[/p][/quote]Go back to sleep we will tell you when something happens. OSPREYSAINT

4:44pm Thu 23 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Carry on sleeping, nothing is happening.
Carry on sleeping, nothing is happening. OSPREYSAINT

11:58pm Mon 27 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Muriel?
Muriel? OSPREYSAINT

5:44am Thu 30 Jan 14

SiamSaint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Muriel?
Vicar?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Muriel?[/p][/quote]Vicar? SiamSaint

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