MP Maria Miller under fire over expenses and property arrangements

Basingstoke Gazette: Culture Secretary and Basingstoke MP, Maria Miller, who is under fire over old expense claims Culture Secretary and Basingstoke MP, Maria Miller, who is under fire over old expense claims

BASINGSTOKE MP Maria Miller is to have her expense claims investigated by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards.

A spokeswoman for the Commissioner said this morning: "It has been accepted for inquiry. There is an inquiry."

Labour MP John Mann submitted a complaint about her claims on Tuesday.

It follows reports that the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, had allowed her parents to live in a Wimbledon property for which she claimed £90,718 in second home allowances during the last parliament.

Mrs Miller has said her expenses were "absolutely in order" and "in complete accordance with the rules".

Her spokesman said: ''Mrs Miller's expenses have been audited twice and found to be wholly proper and above board.

''Any suggestion to the contrary is simply untrue. She would fully co-operate with any inquiry.''

The Daily Telegraph has also published further allegations today about Mrs Miller, claiming she lived in rented north Hampshire properties subsidised by local Tory grandee Nigel McNair Scott.

It says her rent was heavily discounted during the period.

The paper claims that the arrangement was not declared to Whitehall mandarins and that this set up a potential conflict of interest, as Mr McNair Scott, who has been both treasurer and chairman of Basingstoke Conservatives, is chairman of national property company Helical Bar, which is based in London.

Mrs Miller, the paper says, left the second property she rented from Mr McNair Scott, in September 2010. The MP said the properties were rented through normal commercial arrangements and “wholly proper and above board”.

Mr McNair Scott has said the rentals were negotiated at arm’s length “on an entirely professional basis”.

Mr McNair Scott, 67, who lives south of the M3 near Old Basing, is the husband of Anna McNair Scott, Hampshire County Councillor representing the Candovers division.

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1:59pm Thu 13 Dec 12

kronik says...

clearly she has been claiming too much. just look at her...
clearly she has been claiming too much. just look at her... kronik

2:06pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Opinions_opinions says...

Comment to The Telegraph.

please please please keep digging. There is likely to be so much more you can find out. Ask some of her ex-councillors as I am sure they have some fuel to add to the fire. In fact, Mr Phil Heath, what can you tell us ?
Comment to The Telegraph. please please please keep digging. There is likely to be so much more you can find out. Ask some of her ex-councillors as I am sure they have some fuel to add to the fire. In fact, Mr Phil Heath, what can you tell us ? Opinions_opinions

2:29pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Theulktimatefarce says...

The expenses of £90,000 are bad enough, but coupled with her allegedly subsidised rent (easy enough to check, and it seems very low to me), and contrasted with her treatment of the disabled, I think it's a shame we have no recall procedure in Basingstoke.

"'Mrs Miller's expenses have been audited twice and found to be wholly proper and above board. "

The banks were also audited, and look at them now.
The expenses of £90,000 are bad enough, but coupled with her allegedly subsidised rent (easy enough to check, and it seems very low to me), and contrasted with her treatment of the disabled, I think it's a shame we have no recall procedure in Basingstoke. "'Mrs Miller's expenses have been audited twice and found to be wholly proper and above board. " The banks were also audited, and look at them now. Theulktimatefarce

2:48pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Upontheroof says...

Bye bye Miller, it was and experience and not a nice one.
Bye bye Miller, it was and experience and not a nice one. Upontheroof

3:49pm Thu 13 Dec 12

P Heath says...

Still got to look at her tax payers part time researcher who just happened to be the Tory agent never actually saw much in the way of research going on .! Then bullying a previous agent on election day 2005 and being told to leave the campaign centre by me her campaign manager
Still got to look at her tax payers part time researcher who just happened to be the Tory agent never actually saw much in the way of research going on .! Then bullying a previous agent on election day 2005 and being told to leave the campaign centre by me her campaign manager P Heath

3:56pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Upontheroof says...

Interesting last post.
Interesting last post. Upontheroof

4:07pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Pacifier says...

Is ther no end to sleaze in the local tory ranks, bullying, lying and not acting in the interests of the local people!
We will remember next election!!!!!
Is ther no end to sleaze in the local tory ranks, bullying, lying and not acting in the interests of the local people! We will remember next election!!!!! Pacifier

4:42pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Folkestone Saint says...

I assume she lives in or near to Basingstoke, so why on earth do we need to pay for her to have two homes when she is about an hour from home "IF" she spends all day at Westminster. Laws may not have been broken but morals have, and it look's like she is at the front of the queue for the trough whilst others eat or heat
I assume she lives in or near to Basingstoke, so why on earth do we need to pay for her to have two homes when she is about an hour from home "IF" she spends all day at Westminster. Laws may not have been broken but morals have, and it look's like she is at the front of the queue for the trough whilst others eat or heat Folkestone Saint

6:06pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Bill Chapman says...

Of course this woman has to go, in the light of everything revealed so far. She should resign as minister and as MP. How can she hang on like this? It will be interesting to see if David Cameron has the courage to dismiss her. He has expressed his complete confidence in her, the usual prelude.

The Daily Telegraph deserves praise for its revelation of this and other scandals in recent years.
Of course this woman has to go, in the light of everything revealed so far. She should resign as minister and as MP. How can she hang on like this? It will be interesting to see if David Cameron has the courage to dismiss her. He has expressed his complete confidence in her, the usual prelude. The Daily Telegraph deserves praise for its revelation of this and other scandals in recent years. Bill Chapman

7:03pm Thu 13 Dec 12

hoot_gibson says...

Maria Miller you are toast.
A disgraceful cover up of the truth.
it just shows how corrupt you and so many of our politicians are.
You will kicked out at the next election that is if you are not in jail sooner.
Maria Miller you are toast. A disgraceful cover up of the truth. it just shows how corrupt you and so many of our politicians are. You will kicked out at the next election that is if you are not in jail sooner. hoot_gibson

7:20pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Folkestone Saint says...

Opinions_opinions wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
I assume she lives in or near to Basingstoke, so why on earth do we need to pay for her to have two homes when she is about an hour from home "IF" she spends all day at Westminster. Laws may not have been broken but morals have, and it look's like she is at the front of the queue for the trough whilst others eat or heat
Folkestone , you are obviously new to this site. Maria Miller has NEVER lived in Basingstoke. She lives in Merton in SW London and only visits Basingstoke for photo call opportunities as and when needed. You are however correct in that if she was to live here, the train from Basingstoke to Waterloo is on average about 50 minutes. A lot cheaper than the £90K we have been paying her for all these years. Maria Miller initially stood for an MP in Wolverhampton but was unsuccessful. So the Tory needed to find her a safe seat to contest. And here she is !! Or not as the case may be as no one really ever sees her. She is a parasite living off the voters of Basingstoke who elected her into Parliament. Can anyone on here actually tell me what SHE has done for Basingstoke. I don't mean her staff, I mean her, Maria Miller. Can anyone tell me what SHE has contributed to Basingstoke.
Thanks for the up-date, I dont live in Basingstoke anymore but was born there and wish I was back quite often
[quote][p][bold]Opinions_opinions[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: I assume she lives in or near to Basingstoke, so why on earth do we need to pay for her to have two homes when she is about an hour from home "IF" she spends all day at Westminster. Laws may not have been broken but morals have, and it look's like she is at the front of the queue for the trough whilst others eat or heat[/p][/quote]Folkestone , you are obviously new to this site. Maria Miller has NEVER lived in Basingstoke. She lives in Merton in SW London and only visits Basingstoke for photo call opportunities as and when needed. You are however correct in that if she was to live here, the train from Basingstoke to Waterloo is on average about 50 minutes. A lot cheaper than the £90K we have been paying her for all these years. Maria Miller initially stood for an MP in Wolverhampton but was unsuccessful. So the Tory needed to find her a safe seat to contest. And here she is !! Or not as the case may be as no one really ever sees her. She is a parasite living off the voters of Basingstoke who elected her into Parliament. Can anyone on here actually tell me what SHE has done for Basingstoke. I don't mean her staff, I mean her, Maria Miller. Can anyone tell me what SHE has contributed to Basingstoke.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the up-date, I dont live in Basingstoke anymore but was born there and wish I was back quite often Folkestone Saint

7:25pm Thu 13 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

In the last week Maria Miller MP has been has put in the spot light by the Gazette, I think I’m right in saying there are 3 thread running consecutively, that’s discounting Maria Miller and the press.
However, the one that strikes a note is Maria Miller is the “the one to watch” and never has a truer word been spoken. Over the years there have been calls for the Gazette to challenge her, sadly however, all have been ignored.
Her utter contempt for her local paper (without challenge) has given her the confidence to believe she can treat the national press with the same contempt by using her position to bully the Telegraph from reporting their finding on her expenses, and at the same time however giving those against legislation, as recommended by Levisohn the boost they needed.

We must support the victims of phone hacking, not my words, Maria Millers, the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. Sadly however, she was covering her own back at the expense of the victims.
In the last week Maria Miller MP has been has put in the spot light by the Gazette, I think I’m right in saying there are 3 thread running consecutively, that’s discounting Maria Miller and the press. However, the one that strikes a note is Maria Miller is the “the one to watch” and never has a truer word been spoken. Over the years there have been calls for the Gazette to challenge her, sadly however, all have been ignored. Her utter contempt for her local paper (without challenge) has given her the confidence to believe she can treat the national press with the same contempt by using her position to bully the Telegraph from reporting their finding on her expenses, and at the same time however giving those against legislation, as recommended by Levisohn the boost they needed. We must support the victims of phone hacking, not my words, Maria Millers, the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. Sadly however, she was covering her own back at the expense of the victims. popleyrebel2

8:04pm Thu 13 Dec 12

BugBear says...

Bill Chapman wrote:
Of course this woman has to go, in the light of everything revealed so far. She should resign as minister and as MP. How can she hang on like this? It will be interesting to see if David Cameron has the courage to dismiss her. He has expressed his complete confidence in her, the usual prelude.

The Daily Telegraph deserves praise for its revelation of this and other scandals in recent years.
Cameron has consistently shown bad judgement with virtually all his ministerial appointments, Maria Miller is just the latest and I'm sure not the last. He shows bad judgement in virtually everything he does from making empty promises for an EU referendum to the Gay Church Wedding muddle. I do wonder though if Maria Miller has been set up to fall by Conservative central office, she is obviously not in possession of the skills necessary for high office but has obviously been coached for the short period of time she will be there. One wonders if Cameron wanted to get his pet subjects through, has used her and will now dispense of her services so we have no one left to take to task.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: Of course this woman has to go, in the light of everything revealed so far. She should resign as minister and as MP. How can she hang on like this? It will be interesting to see if David Cameron has the courage to dismiss her. He has expressed his complete confidence in her, the usual prelude. The Daily Telegraph deserves praise for its revelation of this and other scandals in recent years.[/p][/quote]Cameron has consistently shown bad judgement with virtually all his ministerial appointments, Maria Miller is just the latest and I'm sure not the last. He shows bad judgement in virtually everything he does from making empty promises for an EU referendum to the Gay Church Wedding muddle. I do wonder though if Maria Miller has been set up to fall by Conservative central office, she is obviously not in possession of the skills necessary for high office but has obviously been coached for the short period of time she will be there. One wonders if Cameron wanted to get his pet subjects through, has used her and will now dispense of her services so we have no one left to take to task. BugBear

10:26pm Thu 13 Dec 12

alan partridge says...

AHA!

Pure Greed! Just like Maggie Thatcher, a witch all out for herself and the rich toffs she brown noses.

Pull the ladder up and sod the rest. Thats the tory attitude.

She MUST be voted out at the next election. Simply not interested in Basingstoke unless it suits her.
AHA! Pure Greed! Just like Maggie Thatcher, a witch all out for herself and the rich toffs she brown noses. Pull the ladder up and sod the rest. Thats the tory attitude. She MUST be voted out at the next election. Simply not interested in Basingstoke unless it suits her. alan partridge

11:55pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Max Headroom says...

As much as I'd love to see this seat change hands, given Ms Miller's track record and hopeful imminent demise, Basingstoke has been a safe Tory seat for nearly 90 years. I can't see anything except another parachute job.
As much as I'd love to see this seat change hands, given Ms Miller's track record and hopeful imminent demise, Basingstoke has been a safe Tory seat for nearly 90 years. I can't see anything except another parachute job. Max Headroom

7:38am Fri 14 Dec 12

Jonty11 says...

I suspect there is a ready made (and locally based) successor waiting in the wings...............
..
I suspect there is a ready made (and locally based) successor waiting in the wings............... .. Jonty11

9:58am Fri 14 Dec 12

JacquesMeahof says...

She should be made to resign, pay the money back and then Basingstoke have an election in an attempt to restore peoples faith in democracy.

With Cllr Finney's "sorry", Mrs McNair -Scott's husband's "renting of property" to the disgrace of an MP for Basingstoke - how can anyone trust any of the local politicians?

The whole lot should be removed and elections held to root out the rot.

Maybe there should be a limit on the length of time that ANY politician is allowed to stay in office - similar to that of the US President?

Sleaze!
She should be made to resign, pay the money back and then Basingstoke have an election in an attempt to restore peoples faith in democracy. With Cllr Finney's "sorry", Mrs McNair -Scott's husband's "renting of property" to the disgrace of an MP for Basingstoke - how can anyone trust any of the local politicians? The whole lot should be removed and elections held to root out the rot. Maybe there should be a limit on the length of time that ANY politician is allowed to stay in office - similar to that of the US President? Sleaze! JacquesMeahof

10:39am Fri 14 Dec 12

W Wallace says...

last night I sat and watched how a cancer victim (still receiving treatment) was evicted from her home of 15 years for debts accruing to £9,000. She was put up in a horrible bedsit and received very little help.
MP Maria Miller, receives £90k for her second home, income for a property in which her parents live in.
It disgusts me to the core.
last night I sat and watched how a cancer victim (still receiving treatment) was evicted from her home of 15 years for debts accruing to £9,000. She was put up in a horrible bedsit and received very little help. MP Maria Miller, receives £90k for her second home, income for a property in which her parents live in. It disgusts me to the core. W Wallace

11:27am Fri 14 Dec 12

Opinions_opinions says...

So here you all go. Email Maria Miller and ask her to explain herself. Ask specific questions that you want the answer to. Don't just let her send you a standard statement. If she does send you a load of rubbish back, send another email until you get the answer to the question you asked. All MP's have to answer each and every correspondance. Her email address is maria.miller.mp@parl
iament.uk so get your fingers to the keypads and start typing. Keep us all updated on the replies. Can someone make a webpage where we can all comment on before the gazette removes this story ?
So here you all go. Email Maria Miller and ask her to explain herself. Ask specific questions that you want the answer to. Don't just let her send you a standard statement. If she does send you a load of rubbish back, send another email until you get the answer to the question you asked. All MP's have to answer each and every correspondance. Her email address is maria.miller.mp@parl iament.uk so get your fingers to the keypads and start typing. Keep us all updated on the replies. Can someone make a webpage where we can all comment on before the gazette removes this story ? Opinions_opinions

11:47am Fri 14 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

Opinions_opinions.
The web page is great idea and the Gazette should take up the challenge, as previously said we have 3 thread running consecutively and chances are they will disappear as a consequence of the negativity and condemnation towards Maria Miller MP.
Opinions_opinions. The web page is great idea and the Gazette should take up the challenge, as previously said we have 3 thread running consecutively and chances are they will disappear as a consequence of the negativity and condemnation towards Maria Miller MP. popleyrebel2

11:51am Fri 14 Dec 12

BugBear says...

alan partridge wrote:
AHA!

Pure Greed! Just like Maggie Thatcher, a witch all out for herself and the rich toffs she brown noses.

Pull the ladder up and sod the rest. Thats the tory attitude.

She MUST be voted out at the next election. Simply not interested in Basingstoke unless it suits her.
I think you are being a little unfair on Maggie Thatcher. Although I disagreed with much of what she did and believe she was misguided and misled by some of her advisor's she herself, right or wrong really believed she was doing what was best for the country and its people. Lets not forget how the unions, whether you like the truth or not were destroying the country and its economy for the sole purpose of changing our political system from democracy to communism. Its a kind of reverse bigotry to label people toff's as harmful when in reality many of those same toffs drive our country forward bring wealth and prosperity to all. As for Max, yes Basingstoke has been a safe Tory seat for the past 90 years but the Tories now are nothing like has gone before. Our last decent MP David Mitchell was an honest and honourable man, unfortunately those qualities have not followed through to his son or in fact the bulk of the Conservatives. The politicians now Labour, Conservative, LibDem are nothing like what has gone before and very few are competent to act in our best interests. We need change and we need it quick before this country gets dragged further into the mire, we cannot rely in any of the traditional parties to save us, they are the ones that have betrayed us.
[quote][p][bold]alan partridge[/bold] wrote: AHA! Pure Greed! Just like Maggie Thatcher, a witch all out for herself and the rich toffs she brown noses. Pull the ladder up and sod the rest. Thats the tory attitude. She MUST be voted out at the next election. Simply not interested in Basingstoke unless it suits her.[/p][/quote]I think you are being a little unfair on Maggie Thatcher. Although I disagreed with much of what she did and believe she was misguided and misled by some of her advisor's she herself, right or wrong really believed she was doing what was best for the country and its people. Lets not forget how the unions, whether you like the truth or not were destroying the country and its economy for the sole purpose of changing our political system from democracy to communism. Its a kind of reverse bigotry to label people toff's as harmful when in reality many of those same toffs drive our country forward bring wealth and prosperity to all. As for Max, yes Basingstoke has been a safe Tory seat for the past 90 years but the Tories now are nothing like has gone before. Our last decent MP David Mitchell was an honest and honourable man, unfortunately those qualities have not followed through to his son or in fact the bulk of the Conservatives. The politicians now Labour, Conservative, LibDem are nothing like what has gone before and very few are competent to act in our best interests. We need change and we need it quick before this country gets dragged further into the mire, we cannot rely in any of the traditional parties to save us, they are the ones that have betrayed us. BugBear

12:41pm Fri 14 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

There are two issues here, both related and very serious, expenses and abuse of power.
Firstly, Expenses, there has been speculation over Maria Miller claims for years, her 1st and 2nd homes have dominated any discussions/debate on the Gazette comments forum.
That said, now it’s in the public domain (national press) there’s no hiding place for Maria Miller MP.

Abuse of Power, the victims of phone hacking welcomed the Leveson’s findings and supported in its entirety, It was the Government (David Cameron) that opposed any legislation (recommended by Leveson) on the grounds that any future Government could amend legislation thus allowing politicians to influence the press, this was also back up by Maria Miller MP the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.
We didn’t have to wait for a future Government to blow this out of the water, within two weeks Maria Miller MP used her position to gag the press on reporting her expenses.
Can you ever imagine how the victims feel, total betrayal springs to mind.
How could this woman look the victims in the eye claiming compassion and support and then sabotage their dream of recompense.
Should she stand down “NO” should she been sacked “YES”
There are two issues here, both related and very serious, expenses and abuse of power. Firstly, Expenses, there has been speculation over Maria Miller claims for years, her 1st and 2nd homes have dominated any discussions/debate on the Gazette comments forum. That said, now it’s in the public domain (national press) there’s no hiding place for Maria Miller MP. Abuse of Power, the victims of phone hacking welcomed the Leveson’s findings and supported in its entirety, It was the Government (David Cameron) that opposed any legislation (recommended by Leveson) on the grounds that any future Government could amend legislation thus allowing politicians to influence the press, this was also back up by Maria Miller MP the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. We didn’t have to wait for a future Government to blow this out of the water, within two weeks Maria Miller MP used her position to gag the press on reporting her expenses. Can you ever imagine how the victims feel, total betrayal springs to mind. How could this woman look the victims in the eye claiming compassion and support and then sabotage their dream of recompense. Should she stand down “NO” should she been sacked “YES” popleyrebel2

1:54pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Robert Donnell says...

It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children.
Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.
It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children. Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times. Robert Donnell

2:01pm Fri 14 Dec 12

JacquesMeahof says...

"Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke"

Like her non-involvement during the Chineham Park school closure!

Priceless comments Mr Donnell.
"Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke" Like her non-involvement during the Chineham Park school closure! Priceless comments Mr Donnell. JacquesMeahof

2:11pm Fri 14 Dec 12

old biddy says...

Not one positive comment! I 'm afraid it can't be me. When I asked for help when the travel tokens were slashed for the disabled, she replied that car allowance for ministers had been cut! Have the local conservatives nothing to contribute?
Not one positive comment! I 'm afraid it can't be me. When I asked for help when the travel tokens were slashed for the disabled, she replied that car allowance for ministers had been cut! Have the local conservatives nothing to contribute? old biddy

2:16pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Opinions_opinions says...

Mr Robert Donnell. You cannot be serious. Have you even bothered to read the threads on this site ? There are three consecutive stories running. All three stories are valid. even though The Gazette has not questioned her about it and will no doubt refuse to do so. Maria Miller has never lived in Basingstoke. She has never represented us. She used Basingstoke to further her career. If she wanted to represent the people where she lives , why not stand for election in Battersea ? Or better still, why did she not stay in Wolverhampton, or Wales where she also lived ? No .. that was never the plan. She needed a safe seat. Somewhere to launch her career. She was given Basingstoke as clearly somoeon in The Tory party wanted her on board. She wouldn't know her way from one end of Basingstoke to the other without a Satnav. She is not a local. She never has been. She has never represented us. She has lived of all The Tory voters of Basingstoke. She has abused the system and now she has been found out .... at last. She will no doubt go into hiding and The Tory's will no doubt defend her and try all their tricks to make this story go away. The easiest way is to keep her out of the limelight for the forseeable future. All political party's believe the voters will forget what their MP's get up to, but we don't. All it does is make us not want to vote as we all know the MP's are not in their positions for us, but only to further their careers. As for the story about her parents living with her so she could look after them can't be the full story as her parents have stated that they moved to London to look after Maria Millers children whilst she fought to get elected as an MP. Conficting reports don't you think ? She needs to stand down and let someone who actually lives in Basingstoke stand for election and fight the seat. She has not earned the respect of Basingstoke people and never will while she continues to abuse her power and our taxes.
Mr Robert Donnell. You cannot be serious. Have you even bothered to read the threads on this site ? There are three consecutive stories running. All three stories are valid. even though The Gazette has not questioned her about it and will no doubt refuse to do so. Maria Miller has never lived in Basingstoke. She has never represented us. She used Basingstoke to further her career. If she wanted to represent the people where she lives , why not stand for election in Battersea ? Or better still, why did she not stay in Wolverhampton, or Wales where she also lived ? No .. that was never the plan. She needed a safe seat. Somewhere to launch her career. She was given Basingstoke as clearly somoeon in The Tory party wanted her on board. She wouldn't know her way from one end of Basingstoke to the other without a Satnav. She is not a local. She never has been. She has never represented us. She has lived of all The Tory voters of Basingstoke. She has abused the system and now she has been found out .... at last. She will no doubt go into hiding and The Tory's will no doubt defend her and try all their tricks to make this story go away. The easiest way is to keep her out of the limelight for the forseeable future. All political party's believe the voters will forget what their MP's get up to, but we don't. All it does is make us not want to vote as we all know the MP's are not in their positions for us, but only to further their careers. As for the story about her parents living with her so she could look after them can't be the full story as her parents have stated that they moved to London to look after Maria Millers children whilst she fought to get elected as an MP. Conficting reports don't you think ? She needs to stand down and let someone who actually lives in Basingstoke stand for election and fight the seat. She has not earned the respect of Basingstoke people and never will while she continues to abuse her power and our taxes. Opinions_opinions

2:30pm Fri 14 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

I’m assuming you are Cllr Robert Donnell, therefore can I ask you how much has the Manydown saga has cost the borough, furthermore, why hasn’t Maria Miller MP voice her views on the saga?

Having you on here proves one thing, her cage has been rattled
I’m assuming you are Cllr Robert Donnell, therefore can I ask you how much has the Manydown saga has cost the borough, furthermore, why hasn’t Maria Miller MP voice her views on the saga? Having you on here proves one thing, her cage has been rattled popleyrebel2

2:42pm Fri 14 Dec 12

BasingstokeOne says...

Robert Donnell wrote:
It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children.
Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.
Perhaps she should have thought about that before subsidising her parents accommodation costs using tax-payers money?
[quote][p][bold]Robert Donnell[/bold] wrote: It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children. Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.[/p][/quote]Perhaps she should have thought about that before subsidising her parents accommodation costs using tax-payers money? BasingstokeOne

3:05pm Fri 14 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

Quote from Robert Donnell
“It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts”
Un-quote.

Councilor, do you believe the Gazette was wrong to invite us to comment, without, as you put, knowing the full facts” furthermore, when are we ever given the full facts therefore, answer my previous on the Manydown saga
Quote from Robert Donnell “It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts” Un-quote. Councilor, do you believe the Gazette was wrong to invite us to comment, without, as you put, knowing the full facts” furthermore, when are we ever given the full facts therefore, answer my previous on the Manydown saga popleyrebel2

4:12pm Fri 14 Dec 12

resident62 says...

If an investigation into Maria Millers expense claim show's that no laws were broken and the claims are in fact legitimate, then there is a far bigger question to answer.
How can anybody who claims to be in touch with society claim this sum of expenses and feel that it is morally acceptable to do so. Four families could live on this sum for a year.
The term public servant does not fit with persons of such low moral attitude, like many of the people who represent us in parliament from all parties, they are there to enhance their own position and have no true understanding of voters feelings.
If an investigation into Maria Millers expense claim show's that no laws were broken and the claims are in fact legitimate, then there is a far bigger question to answer. How can anybody who claims to be in touch with society claim this sum of expenses and feel that it is morally acceptable to do so. Four families could live on this sum for a year. The term public servant does not fit with persons of such low moral attitude, like many of the people who represent us in parliament from all parties, they are there to enhance their own position and have no true understanding of voters feelings. resident62

7:13pm Fri 14 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

The Councillor has been busy posting the same comment on another thread, looks like he drew the short straw.
The Councillor has been busy posting the same comment on another thread, looks like he drew the short straw. popleyrebel2

11:06pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Hiliter says...

Yes this is the same Cllr Donnell who with his Tory colleagues has wasted over 400 k of public money on the Manydown fiasco so why would worry about Maria Miller claiming a mere 90k .Wonder what Donnell had to say about labour mp McNulty who made the same
claims as Maria Miller.That was the end of McNultys political career so we can only hope ..
Other politicians have gone to prison
for less.
Dont be put off fellow bloggers by Donnells prepared Tory central office line in defence of Miller.He is obviously the chosen one now his political future is all behind him.
Yes this is the same Cllr Donnell who with his Tory colleagues has wasted over 400 k of public money on the Manydown fiasco so why would worry about Maria Miller claiming a mere 90k .Wonder what Donnell had to say about labour mp McNulty who made the same claims as Maria Miller.That was the end of McNultys political career so we can only hope .. Other politicians have gone to prison for less. Dont be put off fellow bloggers by Donnells prepared Tory central office line in defence of Miller.He is obviously the chosen one now his political future is all behind him. Hiliter

1:48am Sat 15 Dec 12

BugBear says...

Robert Donnell wrote:
It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children.
Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.
Do you think we are stupid, apparently so. Where do you think we have been getting the news enabling us to form reasonable assumptions about the kind of person who is supposed to be representing our aspirations? Not the Gazette but the main stream media, including The Telegraph, TV and Radio. I have my own reasons for not rating our esteemed MP, reasons I'm not going to go into here but I will say I heard as far back as before the last election, heresay I know, about something not being quite right about her financial arrangements. I discounted the rumours as being untrue, I actually think now I was being too kind.
[quote][p][bold]Robert Donnell[/bold] wrote: It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children. Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.[/p][/quote]Do you think we are stupid, apparently so. Where do you think we have been getting the news enabling us to form reasonable assumptions about the kind of person who is supposed to be representing our aspirations? Not the Gazette but the main stream media, including The Telegraph, TV and Radio. I have my own reasons for not rating our esteemed MP, reasons I'm not going to go into here but I will say I heard as far back as before the last election, heresay I know, about something not being quite right about her financial arrangements. I discounted the rumours as being untrue, I actually think now I was being too kind. BugBear

1:07pm Sat 15 Dec 12

ThomasPaine says...

You know it is serious when the Tories roll out their already discredited 'big guns' like Donnell to defend Maria.

Makes you think though. Cllr Finney had to make an apology this was covered in the Gazette for not 'declaring his interests' over the Golf Club. But he hasn't had the decency to resign his cabinet post, still happy to claim the allowance even if he did break the councillors rules.

Maria has been found in need of investigation by the Standards Commissioner.

What gets me though is that she actually had the nerve, shouldn't be surprised really, to threaten the Telegraph. If that doesn't worry us that Ministers and their minions will stoop so low as to actually threaten a newspaper if they publish a story!

If she did what she is accused of, and it seems like the facts are very similar if not identical to other MPs who have been had up in court and sentenced then she surely must resign if she has any shred of integrity.

Although saying that, not one Tory has resigned over the Manydown scandal.

Meanwhile, they are quite happy to carry on regardless.

You cannot escape the strength of feeling on these blog pages. The Tories in Basingstoke are rotten to the core.

But the answer from the Tories seems to be head down still in the trough...'how dare you challenge us'; what utter arrogance.
You know it is serious when the Tories roll out their already discredited 'big guns' like Donnell to defend Maria. Makes you think though. Cllr Finney had to make an apology this was covered in the Gazette for not 'declaring his interests' over the Golf Club. But he hasn't had the decency to resign his cabinet post, still happy to claim the allowance even if he did break the councillors rules. Maria has been found in need of investigation by the Standards Commissioner. What gets me though is that she actually had the nerve, shouldn't be surprised really, to threaten the Telegraph. If that doesn't worry us that Ministers and their minions will stoop so low as to actually threaten a newspaper if they publish a story! If she did what she is accused of, and it seems like the facts are very similar if not identical to other MPs who have been had up in court and sentenced then she surely must resign if she has any shred of integrity. Although saying that, not one Tory has resigned over the Manydown scandal. Meanwhile, they are quite happy to carry on regardless. You cannot escape the strength of feeling on these blog pages. The Tories in Basingstoke are rotten to the core. But the answer from the Tories seems to be head down still in the trough...'how dare you challenge us'; what utter arrogance. ThomasPaine

2:05pm Sat 15 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

A very interesting point has been raised by ThomasPaine on one of threads that Cllr Robert Donnell hasn’t contributed, therefore, I put to the Cllr.
It refers to Mr Mc Nair Scott being the chairman of property company Helical Bar.

Quote from ThomasPaine
ThomasPaine says...
12:46pm Sat 15 Dec 12
Interesting.. is this the same Helical, I'd be surprised if there were two in Basingstoke, that responded to the Basingstoke Council 'New Homes' consultation in 2010/11?..all to do with how many homes get built in Basingstoke.. If there is smoke.. Un-quote.

For the sake of clarity, Fact or Fiction????
A very interesting point has been raised by ThomasPaine on one of threads that Cllr Robert Donnell hasn’t contributed, therefore, I put to the Cllr. It refers to Mr Mc Nair Scott being the chairman of property company Helical Bar. Quote from ThomasPaine ThomasPaine says... 12:46pm Sat 15 Dec 12 Interesting.. is this the same Helical, I'd be surprised if there were two in Basingstoke, that responded to the Basingstoke Council 'New Homes' consultation in 2010/11?..all to do with how many homes get built in Basingstoke.. If there is smoke.. Un-quote. For the sake of clarity, Fact or Fiction???? popleyrebel2

9:53pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Hiliter says...

To add to Maria Miller's disgrace over her expenses scandal she now has no credibility in her relationship with the media and newspapers in particular.In one crass moment she has taken away any prospect of regulating national newspapers who can now claim that if politicians were allowed to interfere with their editorial freedom,they would.Her sordid attempt to threaten the Daily Telegraph because it had the temerity to question why she claimed second home expense for her parents residence has undermined the Leverson enquiry and made sure that the victims of phone hacking including the parents of Millie Dowler will never get justice .she should hang her head in shame and resign.Some people get promoted to the level of their own incompetence and you are a classic example of this Maria Miller.
To add to Maria Miller's disgrace over her expenses scandal she now has no credibility in her relationship with the media and newspapers in particular.In one crass moment she has taken away any prospect of regulating national newspapers who can now claim that if politicians were allowed to interfere with their editorial freedom,they would.Her sordid attempt to threaten the Daily Telegraph because it had the temerity to question why she claimed second home expense for her parents residence has undermined the Leverson enquiry and made sure that the victims of phone hacking including the parents of Millie Dowler will never get justice .she should hang her head in shame and resign.Some people get promoted to the level of their own incompetence and you are a classic example of this Maria Miller. Hiliter

1:51pm Sun 16 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

Hiliter.
As previously stated there two issues here, as for the expenses, chances are she will be cleared and the questions is, will come up smelling of roses????
However, did she abuse her position as Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport by trying to suppress the press, furthermore, has she betrayed the victims and therefore, lost control whilst the victims always maintained control and dignity whilst seeking recompense.
Furthermore, questions must be asked, was she experience enough to take on such role and had she the experience to take on press, my own personal opinion, “NO”
Hiliter. As previously stated there two issues here, as for the expenses, chances are she will be cleared and the questions is, will come up smelling of roses???? However, did she abuse her position as Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport by trying to suppress the press, furthermore, has she betrayed the victims and therefore, lost control whilst the victims always maintained control and dignity whilst seeking recompense. Furthermore, questions must be asked, was she experience enough to take on such role and had she the experience to take on press, my own personal opinion, “NO” popleyrebel2

1:43pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Jonty11 says...

Rather bizarrely, I actually agree with part of what Cllr Donnell had to say, which is that Maria Miller is entitled to a private family life ...........however, if I had my parents living with me in a house paid for by the government - I think it would be reasonable for serious questions to be asked!

On the other issue that Cllr Donnell raised (along the lines of don't prejudge when you don't have all the details)...agreed once again!

and I would be more than happy to judge all the details if Maria is happy to post them all here!
Rather bizarrely, I actually agree with part of what Cllr Donnell had to say, which is that Maria Miller is entitled to a private family life ...........however, if I had my parents living with me in a house paid for by the government - I think it would be reasonable for serious questions to be asked! On the other issue that Cllr Donnell raised (along the lines of don't prejudge when you don't have all the details)...agreed once again! and I would be more than happy to judge all the details if Maria is happy to post them all here! Jonty11

2:00pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Opinions_opinions says...

Jonty, you are right of course, she is entitled to a private life, but when that private life having your living costs of your parents paid for by the like of you and me, it ceases to be private.

Wouldn't it be great of Maria Miller put herself in front of her consituents and allowed us to ask questions ? Surely as she is our MP and paid for by us, this should be put to her as a formal request. We would of course invite The Gazette along so they could only report Maria Millers comments instead of actually asking her a difficult question, but then that is what we have to accept from this paper that will never print anything bad about her.

So how about it, who is up for a Maria Miller Question Time ? I'll play Dimbleby.

You will notice the media has gone quiet again over her expenses. Makes you think someone has got to them all.
Jonty, you are right of course, she is entitled to a private life, but when that private life having your living costs of your parents paid for by the like of you and me, it ceases to be private. Wouldn't it be great of Maria Miller put herself in front of her consituents and allowed us to ask questions ? Surely as she is our MP and paid for by us, this should be put to her as a formal request. We would of course invite The Gazette along so they could only report Maria Millers comments instead of actually asking her a difficult question, but then that is what we have to accept from this paper that will never print anything bad about her. So how about it, who is up for a Maria Miller Question Time ? I'll play Dimbleby. You will notice the media has gone quiet again over her expenses. Makes you think someone has got to them all. Opinions_opinions

2:02pm Mon 17 Dec 12

old biddy says...

Hopefully, the expenses issue will be clarified soon now that it being officially examined. Can we now learn of any specific improvement in the life of the disabled that she has initiated and successfully processed during her time as Minister? As far I can establish, she has done nothing to minimize the effects of the government cuts of help for the disabled let alone any positive improvements?
Hopefully, the expenses issue will be clarified soon now that it being officially examined. Can we now learn of any specific improvement in the life of the disabled that she has initiated and successfully processed during her time as Minister? As far I can establish, she has done nothing to minimize the effects of the government cuts of help for the disabled let alone any positive improvements? old biddy

7:14pm Mon 17 Dec 12

popleyrebel2 says...

We are all entitled to private life, however, as an MP your private life will be challenged by the press and therefore, your reaction is very important as to the strength of any follow up.
Maria Miller’s special advisor (Joanna Hindley) and David Cameron director of communications
( Craig Oliver) each warned the paper’s editor Tony Gallagher that Mrs Miller was looking at Leveson, now please, in my opinion that the nearest you will ever get to blackmail.
According to Maria Miller her expenses have been audited twice and found to be wholly proper and above board. So why the inquiry and why did both Joanna Hindleyand Craig Oliver react in the way they did???
Can Cllr Robert Donnell comment please?
We are all entitled to private life, however, as an MP your private life will be challenged by the press and therefore, your reaction is very important as to the strength of any follow up. Maria Miller’s special advisor (Joanna Hindley) and David Cameron director of communications ( Craig Oliver) each warned the paper’s editor Tony Gallagher that Mrs Miller was looking at Leveson, now please, in my opinion that the nearest you will ever get to blackmail. According to Maria Miller her expenses have been audited twice and found to be wholly proper and above board. So why the inquiry and why did both Joanna Hindleyand Craig Oliver react in the way they did??? Can Cllr Robert Donnell comment please? popleyrebel2

12:15pm Tue 18 Dec 12

jonone says...

I think we've had Cllr Donnell's input now, we'll not hear any more. In the meantime, Ms Miller's situation has been broadcast on Twitter and even mentioned on Have I Got New For You!! as for the "private life" yes, it is private, when it is not funded/subsidised by tax payers.
I think we've had Cllr Donnell's input now, we'll not hear any more. In the meantime, Ms Miller's situation has been broadcast on Twitter and even mentioned on Have I Got New For You!! as for the "private life" yes, it is private, when it is not funded/subsidised by tax payers. jonone

11:35am Fri 21 Dec 12

Theulktimatefarce says...

Opinions_opinions wrote:
So here you all go. Email Maria Miller and ask her to explain herself. Ask specific questions that you want the answer to. Don't just let her send you a standard statement. If she does send you a load of rubbish back, send another email until you get the answer to the question you asked. All MP's have to answer each and every correspondance. Her email address is maria.miller.mp@parl

iament.uk so get your fingers to the keypads and start typing. Keep us all updated on the replies. Can someone make a webpage where we can all comment on before the gazette removes this story ?
Well, as she never acknowledged any of the e-mails and letters I sent her during the General Election, asking for her position on certain policy matters (also send to other candidates), why would she respond now, with a couple of years until the next election, and of course all the coverup stories coming out now to push this contemptible, hypocritical trough snouter off the front pages?
[quote][p][bold]Opinions_opinions[/bold] wrote: So here you all go. Email Maria Miller and ask her to explain herself. Ask specific questions that you want the answer to. Don't just let her send you a standard statement. If she does send you a load of rubbish back, send another email until you get the answer to the question you asked. All MP's have to answer each and every correspondance. Her email address is maria.miller.mp@parl iament.uk so get your fingers to the keypads and start typing. Keep us all updated on the replies. Can someone make a webpage where we can all comment on before the gazette removes this story ?[/p][/quote]Well, as she never acknowledged any of the e-mails and letters I sent her during the General Election, asking for her position on certain policy matters (also send to other candidates), why would she respond now, with a couple of years until the next election, and of course all the coverup stories coming out now to push this contemptible, hypocritical trough snouter off the front pages? Theulktimatefarce

11:43am Fri 21 Dec 12

Theulktimatefarce says...

Robert Donnell wrote:
It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children.
Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.
It is interesting that the Conservatives maintain she has 'boroken no rules', and indeed this may well, and probably is the case.

By the same token, Jimmy Carr, Starbucks, Google et al had broken no rules, but that didn't stop Dave Cameron castigating them for their immoral behaviour.

I look forward to a similar statement from him on Miller's outrageous, immoral and hypocritical actions.
[quote][p][bold]Robert Donnell[/bold] wrote: It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children. Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.[/p][/quote]It is interesting that the Conservatives maintain she has 'boroken no rules', and indeed this may well, and probably is the case. By the same token, Jimmy Carr, Starbucks, Google et al had broken no rules, but that didn't stop Dave Cameron castigating them for their immoral behaviour. I look forward to a similar statement from him on Miller's outrageous, immoral and hypocritical actions. Theulktimatefarce

1:10pm Fri 21 Dec 12

Opinions_opinions says...

Theulktimatefarce wrote:
Robert Donnell wrote: It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children. Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.
It is interesting that the Conservatives maintain she has 'boroken no rules', and indeed this may well, and probably is the case. By the same token, Jimmy Carr, Starbucks, Google et al had broken no rules, but that didn't stop Dave Cameron castigating them for their immoral behaviour. I look forward to a similar statement from him on Miller's outrageous, immoral and hypocritical actions.
So true ........ Mr Donnell, I would like to formally ask how you stand on the Carr, Starbucks, Google tax avoidance schemes ? Do you see that as being fair even though they have broken no rules ? It would be good to get Maria Millers thoughts on those companies too. Please, someone send them an email and let us all know what response you get.
[quote][p][bold]Theulktimatefarce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert Donnell[/bold] wrote: It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children. Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times.[/p][/quote]It is interesting that the Conservatives maintain she has 'boroken no rules', and indeed this may well, and probably is the case. By the same token, Jimmy Carr, Starbucks, Google et al had broken no rules, but that didn't stop Dave Cameron castigating them for their immoral behaviour. I look forward to a similar statement from him on Miller's outrageous, immoral and hypocritical actions.[/p][/quote]So true ........ Mr Donnell, I would like to formally ask how you stand on the Carr, Starbucks, Google tax avoidance schemes ? Do you see that as being fair even though they have broken no rules ? It would be good to get Maria Millers thoughts on those companies too. Please, someone send them an email and let us all know what response you get. Opinions_opinions

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