Cabinet chief Elaine Still fears for Basingstoke Live's future

Basingstoke Gazette: Elaine Still Elaine Still

THE final decision on what happens to Basingstoke Live will be taken by Councillor Elaine Still, the Cabinet member for communities, sport, and culture at the borough council.

She has said that she would like to see the event continue, but she fears that money pressures may mean it has to be axed next year.

“I do not want to see it go, I enjoyed it this year even in all the mud,” Cllr Still told The Gazette.

“But, on the other hand, I am a realist. With Government cuts and pressures on funding, I have to look at the bigger picture.

“All of the issues with anti-social behaviour have come about because the festival has become so big. The police have said that next year, they want more resources in place. As things get bigger, so do the costs.

“By withdrawing it for one year, we would be able to evaluate the situation. It needs to be looked at to make it more cost-effective.”

Next month the community and wellbeing committee at Basing-stoke and Deane Borough Council will discuss the future of the free two-day music festival and will make their recommendations to Cllr Still. She will be faced with either axing the event next year, scaling it down, or agreeing that an admission fee should be charged.

Cllr Still, below, said: “I will listen at the committee and will welcome members’ comments and suggestions to keep Basingstoke Live going before I make any decision.”

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3:17pm Wed 28 Nov 12

LozLozza says...

the extra costs (£27,500) are *easily* overcome.

1. the council have banked in excess of 3 million pounds surplus this year.

2. a small charge (£5 per day for 18+) could be introduced

it is important to recall that the council tried to push through the closure of this event - without mention of either of the above.

there is no justifiable reason - whatsoever - to withdraw this event.

cllr stills reasons are a mere smokescreen and i look forward to basingstoke live in july 2013.
the extra costs (£27,500) are *easily* overcome. 1. the council have banked in excess of 3 million pounds surplus this year. 2. a small charge (£5 per day for 18+) could be introduced it is important to recall that the council tried to push through the closure of this event - without mention of either of the above. there is no justifiable reason - whatsoever - to withdraw this event. cllr stills reasons are a mere smokescreen and i look forward to basingstoke live in july 2013. LozLozza
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3:21pm Wed 28 Nov 12

LozLozza says...

i should add

3. the basingstoke 'festival' - a seperate thing - likened to a fringe festival - which basingstoke live forum used to organise FOR FREE..

.. took up £ 40,000 of public money this year ???

there's your £ 27,500 and we'll organise it for FREE again as we did for years.
i should add 3. the basingstoke 'festival' - a seperate thing - likened to a fringe festival - which basingstoke live forum used to organise FOR FREE.. .. took up £ 40,000 of public money this year ??? there's your £ 27,500 and we'll organise it for FREE again as we did for years. LozLozza
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4:12pm Wed 28 Nov 12

pnsmith8559 says...

time and time again things get put on hold for a year (balloons over basingstoke) never to be seen again. this cant happen with basingstoke live.i agree 100% with all the points loz made.
On a personal note basingstoke live got me back into being a music fan after my marriage broke up and if it was not for basingstoke live i (as well as many many more) would not have had the chance to see many great groups from basingstoke like burning idols and one step.. or from out side the area groups like from the jam the snare les skalopes. Basingstoke live need to carry on as much for the many brilliant groups who get to play to new crowds and for basingstoke it self. Great things come at a cost but we need to look at the knock on affect as people travel here for this event and then spend money in bars cafes and hotels. Basingstoke needs Basingstoke live and live music festivals need Basingstoke. One final note I'd pay £5 for a programme to keep entry free.
time and time again things get put on hold for a year (balloons over basingstoke) never to be seen again. this cant happen with basingstoke live.i agree 100% with all the points loz made. On a personal note basingstoke live got me back into being a music fan after my marriage broke up and if it was not for basingstoke live i (as well as many many more) would not have had the chance to see many great groups from basingstoke like burning idols and one step.. or from out side the area groups like from the jam the snare les skalopes. Basingstoke live need to carry on as much for the many brilliant groups who get to play to new crowds and for basingstoke it self. Great things come at a cost but we need to look at the knock on affect as people travel here for this event and then spend money in bars cafes and hotels. Basingstoke needs Basingstoke live and live music festivals need Basingstoke. One final note I'd pay £5 for a programme to keep entry free. pnsmith8559
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7:34pm Wed 28 Nov 12

LoftySpires says...

Completely agree with LozLozza's points. None of the council's stated reasons for killing off the festival are convincing. It seems that their attitude is 'Basingstoke Live has been extremely successful, but it's hard to do, so let's knock it on the head'.

Let's hope they make the decision that is in the best interest of the town and its residents and continue to support Basingstoke Live, a vitally important event for the town's cultural identity and reputation.

We want people who are capable of facing a challenge and delivering great results for a great town running the council. Is that what we've got? I suppose we'll find out soon.
Completely agree with LozLozza's points. None of the council's stated reasons for killing off the festival are convincing. It seems that their attitude is 'Basingstoke Live has been extremely successful, but it's hard to do, so let's knock it on the head'. Let's hope they make the decision that is in the best interest of the town and its residents and continue to support Basingstoke Live, a vitally important event for the town's cultural identity and reputation. We want people who are capable of facing a challenge and delivering great results for a great town running the council. Is that what we've got? I suppose we'll find out soon. LoftySpires
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11:49pm Wed 28 Nov 12

martin65 says...

Basingstoke needs events for young people to go to there isn't much else for them to do in this town that doesn't cost a lot of money which they don't have.
This event is free and keeps young people entertained in a town which for the young is otherwise a cultural desert.
Basingstoke needs events for young people to go to there isn't much else for them to do in this town that doesn't cost a lot of money which they don't have. This event is free and keeps young people entertained in a town which for the young is otherwise a cultural desert. martin65
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1:20am Thu 29 Nov 12

Cllr Paul Harvey says...

There is absolutely no justifiable reason for the Council to scrap Basingstoke Live.

Basingstoke & Deane Borough is one of the richest Council's in the country and yet year on year we are told by the Tories that cuts are necessary, meanwhile the put more and more into the reserves for a rainy day.

With over £100million in the bank making a very poor return the Tories are mishandling the Council's finances.

With over £200million in land assets the Tories have already been found to have acted unlawfully in the High Court this last year for mismanaging the Council's assets.

With a budget surplus last year of £3.5million that has been earmarked by them and them alone, they can afford to give some of that back to the peoples' priorities.

Yes we should be concerned about the impact of cuts to the most vulnerable and reductions in services that will really hurt working and as well as vulnerable families and households. Let's not forget the Council has a £20million annual revenue budget.

The rural Tories running Basingstoke Council are utterly out of touch with reality. This decision on Basingstoke Live just typifies that arrogant attitude.

I'd also ask what our Tory MP who happens to be the Culture Secretary now thinks of her Tory Council cutting one of the towns most popular cultural events?
There is absolutely no justifiable reason for the Council to scrap Basingstoke Live. Basingstoke & Deane Borough is one of the richest Council's in the country and yet year on year we are told by the Tories that cuts are necessary, meanwhile the put more and more into the reserves for a rainy day. With over £100million in the bank making a very poor return the Tories are mishandling the Council's finances. With over £200million in land assets the Tories have already been found to have acted unlawfully in the High Court this last year for mismanaging the Council's assets. With a budget surplus last year of £3.5million that has been earmarked by them and them alone, they can afford to give some of that back to the peoples' priorities. Yes we should be concerned about the impact of cuts to the most vulnerable and reductions in services that will really hurt working and as well as vulnerable families and households. Let's not forget the Council has a £20million annual revenue budget. The rural Tories running Basingstoke Council are utterly out of touch with reality. This decision on Basingstoke Live just typifies that arrogant attitude. I'd also ask what our Tory MP who happens to be the Culture Secretary now thinks of her Tory Council cutting one of the towns most popular cultural events? Cllr Paul Harvey
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1:30pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Jonty11 says...

More than happy for us to ask the Culture Secretary what she thinks.....

But is it really the job of the local council to run music events? (you'll be telling me next you expect them to do brain surgery!)

The council already gives grants of over £1 million to arts organisations - surely the Council should simply say to these organisations (including the Anvil) if you want the money - provide Basingstoke Live.

Simples!
More than happy for us to ask the Culture Secretary what she thinks..... But is it really the job of the local council to run music events? (you'll be telling me next you expect them to do brain surgery!) The council already gives grants of over £1 million to arts organisations - surely the Council should simply say to these organisations (including the Anvil) if you want the money - provide Basingstoke Live. Simples! Jonty11
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6:14pm Thu 29 Nov 12

radders19 says...

Even with the weather last year, if everyone who atended paid £1 each, it would have broken even. These people are the music fans who would be hurt by this event not happening as the mud was dreadful, but 25,000 people still went to this event.
So, if the council charged £1 for everyone to get in per day, they would cover there costs. If the weather was good, they would MAKE money as upto 50,000 people could go.
If they were to charge £5 per person as suggested above, Basingstoke Live will make them money.
Unlike the balloons, people still go to see music, irrespective of the weather.
Also, can people sign the petition to show there support of this event? Ta
http://www.change.or
g/en-GB/petitions/sa
ve-basingstoke-live
Even with the weather last year, if everyone who atended paid £1 each, it would have broken even. These people are the music fans who would be hurt by this event not happening as the mud was dreadful, but 25,000 people still went to this event. So, if the council charged £1 for everyone to get in per day, they would cover there costs. If the weather was good, they would MAKE money as upto 50,000 people could go. If they were to charge £5 per person as suggested above, Basingstoke Live will make them money. Unlike the balloons, people still go to see music, irrespective of the weather. Also, can people sign the petition to show there support of this event? Ta http://www.change.or g/en-GB/petitions/sa ve-basingstoke-live radders19
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6:30pm Fri 30 Nov 12

cllrsmw says...

We have to save this event. The development, social and cultural benefits to the Borough cannot be measured on a spreadsheet.

However, the way to save it is to present a case at the 5th December meeting with FIGURES backed up by EVIDENCE.
and not just rhetoric. I don't believe that this decision is in any way set in stone. I have never known Cllr Still take any decision wilthout looking at all of the evidence. Therefore, we must present a compelling argument at the meeting next week.

I will be coming along and I will support the case for keeping Basingstoke Live. However, all those involved with Basingstoke Live must work together and show how they can find more volunteers to act as marshals in order to allay the secutity concerns.

Cllr Stephen West
UKIP, Tadley Central
We have to save this event. The development, social and cultural benefits to the Borough cannot be measured on a spreadsheet. However, the way to save it is to present a case at the 5th December meeting with FIGURES backed up by EVIDENCE. and not just rhetoric. I don't believe that this decision is in any way set in stone. I have never known Cllr Still take any decision wilthout looking at all of the evidence. Therefore, we must present a compelling argument at the meeting next week. I will be coming along and I will support the case for keeping Basingstoke Live. However, all those involved with Basingstoke Live must work together and show how they can find more volunteers to act as marshals in order to allay the secutity concerns. Cllr Stephen West UKIP, Tadley Central cllrsmw
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9:11am Sat 1 Dec 12

Best_Name_Ever says...

Is that an offer to volunteer as a Marshall Cllr West? Good on you!
Is that an offer to volunteer as a Marshall Cllr West? Good on you! Best_Name_Ever
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12:43pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Jonty11 says...

"We have to save this event. The development, social and cultural benefits to the Borough cannot be measured on a spreadsheet."

Oh, right!.....so presumably this means that the Council should run all events which have development, social and cultural benefits then?

Bad news for the Anvil then, that will have to go back to the Council, hhmmmmm that would include all the village fetes, the half marathon, anything that is run at venues such as the Vyne, can we include Car Fest and anything at Popley Airfield in this too?

My point is not that Basingstoke Live should stop - but that it should be provided by the outside providers such as the Anvil, Destination Basingstoke - other other organisations who have been deliberately set up to promote/organise such events.....

Otherwise if the council tax payer wants it we should provide ALL events as the council will then have sufficient resources/manpower to do it.

.......or I will go back to my sarcastic comment about whether it is really the role of the council and whether you expect them to do brain surgery too?
"We have to save this event. The development, social and cultural benefits to the Borough cannot be measured on a spreadsheet." Oh, right!.....so presumably this means that the Council should run all events which have development, social and cultural benefits then? Bad news for the Anvil then, that will have to go back to the Council, hhmmmmm that would include all the village fetes, the half marathon, anything that is run at venues such as the Vyne, can we include Car Fest and anything at Popley Airfield in this too? My point is not that Basingstoke Live should stop - but that it should be provided by the outside providers such as the Anvil, Destination Basingstoke - other other organisations who have been deliberately set up to promote/organise such events..... Otherwise if the council tax payer wants it we should provide ALL events as the council will then have sufficient resources/manpower to do it. .......or I will go back to my sarcastic comment about whether it is really the role of the council and whether you expect them to do brain surgery too? Jonty11
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3:12pm Tue 4 Dec 12

Upontheroof says...

If this doesn't go ahead then Still should stand as she clearly can't do her job properly. What's the point in having people like this if all they want is to fail the people who pay their wages!
If this doesn't go ahead then Still should stand as she clearly can't do her job properly. What's the point in having people like this if all they want is to fail the people who pay their wages! Upontheroof
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11:32am Wed 5 Dec 12

cllrsmw says...

Best_Name_Ever wrote:
Is that an offer to volunteer as a Marshall Cllr West? Good on you!
Joking aside. I am qualified in the security industry and I even have an SIA licence. Yes, if necessary, I will help out. The first thing that we need to do is to secure the future of the event and that is exactly what I am doing right now with conversations with Cabinet and other council colleagues.
[quote][p][bold]Best_Name_Ever[/bold] wrote: Is that an offer to volunteer as a Marshall Cllr West? Good on you![/p][/quote]Joking aside. I am qualified in the security industry and I even have an SIA licence. Yes, if necessary, I will help out. The first thing that we need to do is to secure the future of the event and that is exactly what I am doing right now with conversations with Cabinet and other council colleagues. cllrsmw
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12:31pm Wed 5 Dec 12

LozLozza says...

jonty - basingstoke live is about the local music scene.

the anvil and destination basingstoke know nothing about the local music scene.

and we know nothing about them.
jonty - basingstoke live is about the local music scene. the anvil and destination basingstoke know nothing about the local music scene. and we know nothing about them. LozLozza
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