Public to get their say on Basingstoke Town's new stadium proposals

Plans for Basingstoke Town's new stadium on Old Common

Plans for Basingstoke Town's new stadium on Old Common

First published in News Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A PUBLIC consultation on plans to build a new £7.5million Basingstoke Town Football Club stadium at Eastrop will now go ahead before a final decision is made.

Councillors on Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council’s decision-making cabinet gave the green light to a legal agreement with the club for the sale of land needed to build a new 5,124-capacity stadium on Basingstoke Old Common, in Eastrop, and for the council’s 29 per cent share of the club’s current stadium at The Camrose, in June.

But the borough council’s scrutiny committee was tasked, over two meetings in July, with reviewing the deal after a group of six councillors criticised the decision.

And after considering a report from the scrutiny committee, detailing concerns they had over the deal, including concerns over the legal agreement and the promotion of the current Camrose ground for retail development, the cabinet gave the green light to launch a six-week public consultation period.

The public consultation, which will see local residents asked their views on the loss of green open space at the Old Common, is set to be launched later this month and will run until October 10.

During the consultation, the proposed legal agreement between the council and the football club will also be studied by an external lawyer, following a request from the scrutiny committee.

Councillor Gavin James, Eastrop ward councillor and the borough’s Liberal Democrat group leader, told the meeting: “We exist for the benefit of residents. Tonight you have an opportunity to re-assert yourselves and to start making decisions based on what you think, based on what you’ve heard and what the representatives of those who elected them are saying.”

Crossborough Hill resident Helen Richards raised concerns about the impact that the proposal will have on wildlife, saying: “On ecological grounds alone, the Old Common should never have been considered as an appropriate location for a new stadium, nor indeed should this site be available for any other development.”

Basingstoke Town FC’s club secretary David Knight told the meeting that the club had incurred “significant professional costs” from the delay in signing the agreement, adding: “We were offered a potential site at the Leisure Park and were steered away because it was not considered by officers and members as the long-term solution for the Leisure Park.”

Cllr John Izett, cabinet member for property, finance and commissioning, defended the decision to support the relocation to Eastrop, but told the meeting: “It is right to hear the views of residents across the borough.

“It would be appropriate for us to use the time to double check points raised by the committee, but this is not to be used as an opportunity to kick this into the long grass.”

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1:26pm Fri 8 Aug 14

sul11y says...

does Basingstoke need a 5000 seater stadium? i thought there average gate on a Saturday was around 400 people.
does Basingstoke need a 5000 seater stadium? i thought there average gate on a Saturday was around 400 people. sul11y
  • Score: 5

1:32pm Fri 8 Aug 14

dean1976 says...

absolutely agree sul11y. As a fan of Ice Hockey in the town that receives an average saturday attendance of 1000, why not sell the current ice rink and build a new rink with a larger attendance. Its clear the town are more interested in ice hockey than football.
absolutely agree sul11y. As a fan of Ice Hockey in the town that receives an average saturday attendance of 1000, why not sell the current ice rink and build a new rink with a larger attendance. Its clear the town are more interested in ice hockey than football. dean1976
  • Score: 6

2:50pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Rob262 says...

The club has to meet the ground grading requirements set by the conference and the FA, hence the reason why most clubs in the conference south have stadiums with a much bigger capacity than they'll ever need. Also, the stadium would be a mix of seating and standing, so not an all-seater.
The club has to meet the ground grading requirements set by the conference and the FA, hence the reason why most clubs in the conference south have stadiums with a much bigger capacity than they'll ever need. Also, the stadium would be a mix of seating and standing, so not an all-seater. Rob262
  • Score: 3

2:56pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Rob262 says...

The current stadium is a dump that needs consigning to history. It does nothing for the town or the club, with the club losing out massively from the facilities needed to generate more matchday and non-matchday revenue. Give our local football club a new stadium that they can build a proper future in is what I say.
The current stadium is a dump that needs consigning to history. It does nothing for the town or the club, with the club losing out massively from the facilities needed to generate more matchday and non-matchday revenue. Give our local football club a new stadium that they can build a proper future in is what I say. Rob262
  • Score: 10

3:03pm Fri 8 Aug 14

deepinsight says...

Whatever the reasons for a new stadium for the Town's football club, why does it have to be located on the Old Common?

This is Common Land for all the people of Basingstoke - not just a few hundred football fans.

If the club is that good, let them buy some land in a location they consider suitable and not rip-off the council tax payers and residents of the Borough by usurping Common Land.
Whatever the reasons for a new stadium for the Town's football club, why does it have to be located on the Old Common? This is Common Land for all the people of Basingstoke - not just a few hundred football fans. If the club is that good, let them buy some land in a location they consider suitable and not rip-off the council tax payers and residents of the Borough by usurping Common Land. deepinsight
  • Score: 6

6:24pm Fri 8 Aug 14

CrossofLorraine says...

deepinsight wrote:
Whatever the reasons for a new stadium for the Town's football club, why does it have to be located on the Old Common?

This is Common Land for all the people of Basingstoke - not just a few hundred football fans.

If the club is that good, let them buy some land in a location they consider suitable and not rip-off the council tax payers and residents of the Borough by usurping Common Land.
I entirely agree with Rob262 sentiments. And as for Clearlyunperceptives comments…

The town council have decided it will be on the old common as its municipal land therefore the council can sell it off as they see fit.

It’s a bit late objecting about the old common when it has already been used for Totally Tennis and the Hilton hotel sites. You can also include; The Costello School, ‘ring-road south’ and the housing to the south of it, plus the War Memorial Park! All this misty eyed sentiment re the old common when it’s been carved up for years, so much so Basingstoke Common was re-designated to another site across the ring-road! Eastrop residents have easy access to green/open spaces at Eastrop Park, War Memorial Park and Basingstoke Common, that’s more than most in B’stoke.

The new £7.5million purpose-built stadium will be funded through the sale of the current ground in South Ham, which is being lined up as an out-of-town retail park. As a result, the local authority will receive £935,000 from the sale of land at both sites. Where’s the rip-off in that? And the Costello school also benefits from a new all-weather floodlit pitch they’ll share with BTFC.
[quote][p][bold]deepinsight[/bold] wrote: Whatever the reasons for a new stadium for the Town's football club, why does it have to be located on the Old Common? This is Common Land for all the people of Basingstoke - not just a few hundred football fans. If the club is that good, let them buy some land in a location they consider suitable and not rip-off the council tax payers and residents of the Borough by usurping Common Land.[/p][/quote]I entirely agree with Rob262 sentiments. And as for Clearlyunperceptives comments… The town council have decided it will be on the old common as its municipal land therefore the council can sell it off as they see fit. It’s a bit late objecting about the old common when it has already been used for Totally Tennis and the Hilton hotel sites. You can also include; The Costello School, ‘ring-road south’ and the housing to the south of it, plus the War Memorial Park! All this misty eyed sentiment re the old common when it’s been carved up for years, so much so Basingstoke Common was re-designated to another site across the ring-road! Eastrop residents have easy access to green/open spaces at Eastrop Park, War Memorial Park and Basingstoke Common, that’s more than most in B’stoke. The new £7.5million purpose-built stadium will be funded through the sale of the current ground in South Ham, which is being lined up as an out-of-town retail park. As a result, the local authority will receive £935,000 from the sale of land at both sites. Where’s the rip-off in that? And the Costello school also benefits from a new all-weather floodlit pitch they’ll share with BTFC. CrossofLorraine
  • Score: 13

5:17pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Orwell1984 says...

CrossofLorraine's comments on Old Common are appaling and sound like doctrine from the Vladimir Putin Faculty of Land Grabbing. Retention of Old Common in its current configuration and usage IS most definitely a cause worth fighting for. With an attitude like that, all the suitable green spaces would be covered with housing or commercial development in time, 'in the interests of the town's prosperity, football club's expansion ambitions, etc'.
No thanks!
CrossofLorraine's comments on Old Common are appaling and sound like doctrine from the Vladimir Putin Faculty of Land Grabbing. Retention of Old Common in its current configuration and usage IS most definitely a cause worth fighting for. With an attitude like that, all the suitable green spaces would be covered with housing or commercial development in time, 'in the interests of the town's prosperity, football club's expansion ambitions, etc'. No thanks! Orwell1984
  • Score: 0

8:41pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Peter H. says...

Orwell1984 wrote:
CrossofLorraine's comments on Old Common are appaling and sound like doctrine from the Vladimir Putin Faculty of Land Grabbing. Retention of Old Common in its current configuration and usage IS most definitely a cause worth fighting for. With an attitude like that, all the suitable green spaces would be covered with housing or commercial development in time, 'in the interests of the town's prosperity, football club's expansion ambitions, etc'.
No thanks!
I don’t know if a stadium should be built there of not, but all credit to Cross of Lorraine for setting out his reasons. If you have a case, then you should make it, just as he has.

Simply replying with accusation and exaggeration doesn’t explain how this development is wrong or why retention is better.
[quote][p][bold]Orwell1984[/bold] wrote: CrossofLorraine's comments on Old Common are appaling and sound like doctrine from the Vladimir Putin Faculty of Land Grabbing. Retention of Old Common in its current configuration and usage IS most definitely a cause worth fighting for. With an attitude like that, all the suitable green spaces would be covered with housing or commercial development in time, 'in the interests of the town's prosperity, football club's expansion ambitions, etc'. No thanks![/p][/quote]I don’t know if a stadium should be built there of not, but all credit to Cross of Lorraine for setting out his reasons. If you have a case, then you should make it, just as he has. Simply replying with accusation and exaggeration doesn’t explain how this development is wrong or why retention is better. Peter H.
  • Score: 6

11:37pm Sat 9 Aug 14

JoninBasingstoke says...

Well as I see it, and this is only my opinion. As the council own the Manydown land in Basingstoke why not build the stadium there. Good access as the matches will be as and when, granted that they will still need to make transport upgrades but this would be better than the 100's of homes that they plan for that site. Ring roads will still run and park and rides should be a good supply. In fact, I cant see any negatives only positives to this idea.
Well as I see it, and this is only my opinion. As the council own the Manydown land in Basingstoke why not build the stadium there. Good access as the matches will be as and when, granted that they will still need to make transport upgrades but this would be better than the 100's of homes that they plan for that site. Ring roads will still run and park and rides should be a good supply. In fact, I cant see any negatives only positives to this idea. JoninBasingstoke
  • Score: 9

12:56pm Sun 10 Aug 14

bobstert says...

CrossofLorraine wrote:
deepinsight wrote:
Whatever the reasons for a new stadium for the Town's football club, why does it have to be located on the Old Common?

This is Common Land for all the people of Basingstoke - not just a few hundred football fans.

If the club is that good, let them buy some land in a location they consider suitable and not rip-off the council tax payers and residents of the Borough by usurping Common Land.
I entirely agree with Rob262 sentiments. And as for Clearlyunperceptives comments…

The town council have decided it will be on the old common as its municipal land therefore the council can sell it off as they see fit.

It’s a bit late objecting about the old common when it has already been used for Totally Tennis and the Hilton hotel sites. You can also include; The Costello School, ‘ring-road south’ and the housing to the south of it, plus the War Memorial Park! All this misty eyed sentiment re the old common when it’s been carved up for years, so much so Basingstoke Common was re-designated to another site across the ring-road! Eastrop residents have easy access to green/open spaces at Eastrop Park, War Memorial Park and Basingstoke Common, that’s more than most in B’stoke.

The new £7.5million purpose-built stadium will be funded through the sale of the current ground in South Ham, which is being lined up as an out-of-town retail park. As a result, the local authority will receive £935,000 from the sale of land at both sites. Where’s the rip-off in that? And the Costello school also benefits from a new all-weather floodlit pitch they’ll share with BTFC.
oh good they will be able to afford another Costa Coffee!
[quote][p][bold]CrossofLorraine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepinsight[/bold] wrote: Whatever the reasons for a new stadium for the Town's football club, why does it have to be located on the Old Common? This is Common Land for all the people of Basingstoke - not just a few hundred football fans. If the club is that good, let them buy some land in a location they consider suitable and not rip-off the council tax payers and residents of the Borough by usurping Common Land.[/p][/quote]I entirely agree with Rob262 sentiments. And as for Clearlyunperceptives comments… The town council have decided it will be on the old common as its municipal land therefore the council can sell it off as they see fit. It’s a bit late objecting about the old common when it has already been used for Totally Tennis and the Hilton hotel sites. You can also include; The Costello School, ‘ring-road south’ and the housing to the south of it, plus the War Memorial Park! All this misty eyed sentiment re the old common when it’s been carved up for years, so much so Basingstoke Common was re-designated to another site across the ring-road! Eastrop residents have easy access to green/open spaces at Eastrop Park, War Memorial Park and Basingstoke Common, that’s more than most in B’stoke. The new £7.5million purpose-built stadium will be funded through the sale of the current ground in South Ham, which is being lined up as an out-of-town retail park. As a result, the local authority will receive £935,000 from the sale of land at both sites. Where’s the rip-off in that? And the Costello school also benefits from a new all-weather floodlit pitch they’ll share with BTFC.[/p][/quote]oh good they will be able to afford another Costa Coffee! bobstert
  • Score: -4

11:41am Mon 11 Aug 14

big pete73 says...

Last week they received 1100 or so. I think it shows the town is interested in football. just needs to be promoted correctly.
Last week they received 1100 or so. I think it shows the town is interested in football. just needs to be promoted correctly. big pete73
  • Score: 2

1:04pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Jonty11 says...

Once the common is gone, it's gone and you won't have access to it again.....and just how useful is a building (no matter how much it costs) if it's only used at weekends?

Another thought is that the Council's cemetery is running out of space, wouldn't this be better as a new cemetery space as it will be used by a larger proportion of the community and be more in keeping with the ecological value of the area?
Once the common is gone, it's gone and you won't have access to it again.....and just how useful is a building (no matter how much it costs) if it's only used at weekends? Another thought is that the Council's cemetery is running out of space, wouldn't this be better as a new cemetery space as it will be used by a larger proportion of the community and be more in keeping with the ecological value of the area? Jonty11
  • Score: 3

3:06pm Mon 11 Aug 14

basingstoke26 says...

jonty11, the NIMBY's of eastrop don't want a football pitch, what would they make of a cemetery there ? I agree the pitch is located in ithe best place on the common, and it can be used for other events if the council and the club deem it suitable, thereby using it on other weekends. weekdays
jonty11, the NIMBY's of eastrop don't want a football pitch, what would they make of a cemetery there ? I agree the pitch is located in ithe best place on the common, and it can be used for other events if the council and the club deem it suitable, thereby using it on other weekends. weekdays basingstoke26
  • Score: 0

10:26pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Marina Morris says...

Blimey Jonty, that's desperate!
Blimey Jonty, that's desperate! Marina Morris
  • Score: 1

12:31pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Folkestone Saint says...

So it looks like around 1100 people will use the stadium every other weekend during the season , and as it is new it may attract more fans, the local school will benefit on a daily basis, so that will be some 2/300 students per day, plus it will hold other events, how many people use the common every day, will it be more or as I suspect considerably less than the new proposed amount?
So it looks like around 1100 people will use the stadium every other weekend during the season , and as it is new it may attract more fans, the local school will benefit on a daily basis, so that will be some 2/300 students per day, plus it will hold other events, how many people use the common every day, will it be more or as I suspect considerably less than the new proposed amount? Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 0

1:55am Fri 15 Aug 14

ekotsgnisab says...

I would like to see this ground built/approved. The average attendences are low at the moment probably because of the state of the ground. If this new stadium is built then I can see at least 1500 people attending each game. I believe there are a lot of sleeping football fans in Basingstoke who have probably thought about going down on a Saturday but then decided no because of the state of the ground, its surroundings, the clubhouse, the car park, the run down terraces, lack of atmosphere, no proper club shop. The list goes on. Football is now a family orientated game and taking 3 kids and even the mrs to the camrose is dreadful and not enjoyable. Its 2014 and the club needs a stadium that rolls with the times! A new stadium with more fans watching will also spur on the management/team to perform better than they are.(hopefully lol)
I would like to see this ground built/approved. The average attendences are low at the moment probably because of the state of the ground. If this new stadium is built then I can see at least 1500 people attending each game. I believe there are a lot of sleeping football fans in Basingstoke who have probably thought about going down on a Saturday but then decided no because of the state of the ground, its surroundings, the clubhouse, the car park, the run down terraces, lack of atmosphere, no proper club shop. The list goes on. Football is now a family orientated game and taking 3 kids and even the mrs to the camrose is dreadful and not enjoyable. Its 2014 and the club needs a stadium that rolls with the times! A new stadium with more fans watching will also spur on the management/team to perform better than they are.(hopefully lol) ekotsgnisab
  • Score: 0

12:38am Sun 24 Aug 14

Orwell1984 says...

basingstoke26 wrote:
jonty11, the NIMBY's of eastrop don't want a football pitch, what would they make of a cemetery there ? I agree the pitch is located in ithe best place on the common, and it can be used for other events if the council and the club deem it suitable, thereby using it on other weekends. weekdays
This is not all about NIMBYism in Eastrop. I happen to live in Eastrop, but used to live within 300m of Swindon Town's football ground, which was there long before I chose to live near it. I would have no problem living near the home of Basingstoke FC, either at Camrose or anywhere else that it may relocate to. However, for many people (including me) the problem is developing Old Common for anything (incuding a cemetery), especially when there are alternative sites for Basingstoke FC. This is a cause that many of us are going to support in the up and coming BDBC consultation phase and I would take this position wherever I lived in Basingstoke.
[quote][p][bold]basingstoke26[/bold] wrote: jonty11, the NIMBY's of eastrop don't want a football pitch, what would they make of a cemetery there ? I agree the pitch is located in ithe best place on the common, and it can be used for other events if the council and the club deem it suitable, thereby using it on other weekends. weekdays[/p][/quote]This is not all about NIMBYism in Eastrop. I happen to live in Eastrop, but used to live within 300m of Swindon Town's football ground, which was there long before I chose to live near it. I would have no problem living near the home of Basingstoke FC, either at Camrose or anywhere else that it may relocate to. However, for many people (including me) the problem is developing Old Common for anything (incuding a cemetery), especially when there are alternative sites for Basingstoke FC. This is a cause that many of us are going to support in the up and coming BDBC consultation phase and I would take this position wherever I lived in Basingstoke. Orwell1984
  • Score: 0

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