Plans to redevelop petrol station in Basingstoke

Plans for makeover at the BP garage in Grove Road

Plans for makeover at the BP garage in Grove Road

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A PETROL station in Basingstoke is set to get a makeover if plans are given the green light by Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council.

BP Oil UK Limited has applied to the borough council for planning permission to redevelop the petrol station, in Grove Road, in Cranbourne.

If the plans are approved, the company will demolish the existing 95sq metre sales building and replace it with a new 216sq metre building which will sell a range of products, including drinks, newspapers and magazines and car care items.

The current fuel pumps will also be replaced with new multi-fuel pumps to offer both diesel and petrol to customers using the facility, and 11 car parking spaces will be provided at the site.

The application says: “The existing operation fails to meet modern requirements of petrol filling station operators and their customers. The alterations will result in significant benefits, including visual improvements, efficiency and traffic circulation benefits and enhanced facilities, provided by the forecourt shop.”

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4:06pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Opinions_opinions says...

Read as: The Co-operative petrol station down the road (Texaco ? ) has significantly affected our business over the last few years and we need to compete. Therefore if we can duplicate what they have, and make it easier to get in and out unlike the Co-op which can be a nightmare with the Holiday Inn traffic and the narrow lanes, we can steal their customers and make a killing :) Nothing like a good bit of healthy competition. I hope they have a till just for petrol customers and not shoppers who cause chaos when they have armfuls of shopping and only one person on the till !!
Read as: The Co-operative petrol station down the road (Texaco ? ) has significantly affected our business over the last few years and we need to compete. Therefore if we can duplicate what they have, and make it easier to get in and out unlike the Co-op which can be a nightmare with the Holiday Inn traffic and the narrow lanes, we can steal their customers and make a killing :) Nothing like a good bit of healthy competition. I hope they have a till just for petrol customers and not shoppers who cause chaos when they have armfuls of shopping and only one person on the till !! Opinions_opinions
  • Score: 6

4:17pm Tue 29 Jul 14

JamesRe says...

I agree with the above comments.. I also suggest that the station may be struggling as their fuel is consistently the highest priced in Basingstoke. Last time I looked they were 4p per litre more than Sainsburys.
I agree with the above comments.. I also suggest that the station may be struggling as their fuel is consistently the highest priced in Basingstoke. Last time I looked they were 4p per litre more than Sainsburys. JamesRe
  • Score: 8

7:47pm Tue 29 Jul 14

radders19 says...

Agreed with the above but I bet the new next door development (retirement apartments I think) lodges an objection over the perceived increase in noise.
Agreed with the above but I bet the new next door development (retirement apartments I think) lodges an objection over the perceived increase in noise. radders19
  • Score: 2

8:06am Wed 30 Jul 14

JJ38JJ says...

I don't think I've refuelled any car at a branded petrol station for years. I often wonder who still does when the prices are so much higher than supermarkets. I suppose there are a lot of drivers who drive company cars and vans who don't have to pay for it themselves.
I don't think I've refuelled any car at a branded petrol station for years. I often wonder who still does when the prices are so much higher than supermarkets. I suppose there are a lot of drivers who drive company cars and vans who don't have to pay for it themselves. JJ38JJ
  • Score: 4

8:32am Wed 30 Jul 14

basingstoke26 says...

one thing about filling up in branded petrol stations is they keep the good petrol for themselves, the slighty less good stuff is sold onto sainsburys etc. the branded petrol gets the additives to reduce wear and increase mpg,the stuff sainsburys etc gets doesn't get the additives, so its always good practice now and then to fill up in a branded station, doesn't matter which one,
one thing about filling up in branded petrol stations is they keep the good petrol for themselves, the slighty less good stuff is sold onto sainsburys etc. the branded petrol gets the additives to reduce wear and increase mpg,the stuff sainsburys etc gets doesn't get the additives, so its always good practice now and then to fill up in a branded station, doesn't matter which one, basingstoke26
  • Score: -3

11:45am Wed 30 Jul 14

jbee37 says...

I agree, better fuel at non supermarkets (remember contaminated fuel a few years back), but still use them for convenience. Hopefully the new BP garage will have self serve pumps like at Morrison's. The self serve pumps not operating at Sainsbury's won't be working until around October as they have to train the staff!!!
I agree, better fuel at non supermarkets (remember contaminated fuel a few years back), but still use them for convenience. Hopefully the new BP garage will have self serve pumps like at Morrison's. The self serve pumps not operating at Sainsbury's won't be working until around October as they have to train the staff!!! jbee37
  • Score: 0

2:27pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Sam_Walker123456 says...

basingstoke26 wrote:
one thing about filling up in branded petrol stations is they keep the good petrol for themselves, the slighty less good stuff is sold onto sainsburys etc. the branded petrol gets the additives to reduce wear and increase mpg,the stuff sainsburys etc gets doesn't get the additives, so its always good practice now and then to fill up in a branded station, doesn't matter which one,
It is a myth that the branded petrol stations keep the best fuel for themselves. Although the additives used by producers vary, all fuels sold in the UK have to meet the required EN standards. The RAC investigated this and they received responses from the major supermarkets to confirm that all the fuel they sell conforms to the standards. But the RAC could not get one brand to support the claim that supermarket fuel is inferior to their brand in any way - they are happy not to comment because as long as the myth continues it will benefit them.
[quote][p][bold]basingstoke26[/bold] wrote: one thing about filling up in branded petrol stations is they keep the good petrol for themselves, the slighty less good stuff is sold onto sainsburys etc. the branded petrol gets the additives to reduce wear and increase mpg,the stuff sainsburys etc gets doesn't get the additives, so its always good practice now and then to fill up in a branded station, doesn't matter which one,[/p][/quote]It is a myth that the branded petrol stations keep the best fuel for themselves. Although the additives used by producers vary, all fuels sold in the UK have to meet the required EN standards. The RAC investigated this and they received responses from the major supermarkets to confirm that all the fuel they sell conforms to the standards. But the RAC could not get one brand to support the claim that supermarket fuel is inferior to their brand in any way - they are happy not to comment because as long as the myth continues it will benefit them. Sam_Walker123456
  • Score: 6

2:33pm Wed 30 Jul 14

basingstoke26 says...

i work in the oil industry it is not a myth, the tankers are loaded up at the same point and then the additives added depending on amount and where they are going, ie BP or Sainsburys, BP get it , Sainsbury's don't..
i work in the oil industry it is not a myth, the tankers are loaded up at the same point and then the additives added depending on amount and where they are going, ie BP or Sainsburys, BP get it , Sainsbury's don't.. basingstoke26
  • Score: 2

3:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

JJ38JJ says...

On another theme.... is it not more correct to say the site is being developed rather than redeveloped? The use of the site is not changing after all. Just a thought.
On another theme.... is it not more correct to say the site is being developed rather than redeveloped? The use of the site is not changing after all. Just a thought. JJ38JJ
  • Score: 3

4:35pm Wed 30 Jul 14

laurence86 says...

basingstoke26 wrote:
i work in the oil industry it is not a myth, the tankers are loaded up at the same point and then the additives added depending on amount and where they are going, ie BP or Sainsburys, BP get it , Sainsbury's don't..
I also work with the oil and gas industry and can confirm that they do add additives to the fuel at the tanker filling point. But I have also worked for an engine performance analysis company and can verify that providing the fuel meets the required standards for the engine any additives will have no effect on engine performance. In fact I know of someone whose car failed it emission test because they had added an engine cleaning additive before their MOT. There are some high performance engines that are designed to run on fuels with a specific octane number, but octane number is different to the seller specific additives. If you want to improve the performance of your engine you cannot beat a good service.
[quote][p][bold]basingstoke26[/bold] wrote: i work in the oil industry it is not a myth, the tankers are loaded up at the same point and then the additives added depending on amount and where they are going, ie BP or Sainsburys, BP get it , Sainsbury's don't..[/p][/quote]I also work with the oil and gas industry and can confirm that they do add additives to the fuel at the tanker filling point. But I have also worked for an engine performance analysis company and can verify that providing the fuel meets the required standards for the engine any additives will have no effect on engine performance. In fact I know of someone whose car failed it emission test because they had added an engine cleaning additive before their MOT. There are some high performance engines that are designed to run on fuels with a specific octane number, but octane number is different to the seller specific additives. If you want to improve the performance of your engine you cannot beat a good service. laurence86
  • Score: 6

5:16pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Sam_Walker123456 says...

basingstoke26 wrote:
i work in the oil industry it is not a myth, the tankers are loaded up at the same point and then the additives added depending on amount and where they are going, ie BP or Sainsburys, BP get it , Sainsbury's don't..
You are partly right. All fuel companies have secret formulae for additives they put in their brands - even the supermarkets use additives. Some of these additives are expensive but the only evidence that they are better for your car comes from individuals who detect fuel A is better than fuel B for their car. There is no research to show that fuel A is better than fuel B for most cars and that is why the fuel companies are cagey about making any such claims. Here is some advice from an independent source:
'How to save fuel: choose the right fuel
Some motorists report that using premium or high octane fuel improves their car’s economy but the oil companies are usually careful not to make claims to this effect.
Such fuels often contain more advanced detergents which will keep a car’s engine cleaner and this can have efficiency benefits but there are no direct economy gains from choosing a higher octane fuel than the car’s manufacturer recommends.
What can help is buying your fuel from a reputable retailer* to ensure you’re getting the best quality product for your money. Shop around and if you find that a certain brand of fuel gives you better economy and value for money, stick with it.'
*Reputable retailers includes supermarkets.
This article then goes on to say that factors such as servicing, tyre pressure and your own driving style have far more impact on fuel economy and the wear and tear to your car engine than the fuel you use.
[quote][p][bold]basingstoke26[/bold] wrote: i work in the oil industry it is not a myth, the tankers are loaded up at the same point and then the additives added depending on amount and where they are going, ie BP or Sainsburys, BP get it , Sainsbury's don't..[/p][/quote]You are partly right. All fuel companies have secret formulae for additives they put in their brands - even the supermarkets use additives. Some of these additives are expensive but the only evidence that they are better for your car comes from individuals who detect fuel A is better than fuel B for their car. There is no research to show that fuel A is better than fuel B for most cars and that is why the fuel companies are cagey about making any such claims. Here is some advice from an independent source: 'How to save fuel: choose the right fuel Some motorists report that using premium or high octane fuel improves their car’s economy but the oil companies are usually careful not to make claims to this effect. Such fuels often contain more advanced detergents which will keep a car’s engine cleaner and this can have efficiency benefits but there are no direct economy gains from choosing a higher octane fuel than the car’s manufacturer recommends. What can help is buying your fuel from a reputable retailer* to ensure you’re getting the best quality product for your money. Shop around and if you find that a certain brand of fuel gives you better economy and value for money, stick with it.' *Reputable retailers includes supermarkets. This article then goes on to say that factors such as servicing, tyre pressure and your own driving style have far more impact on fuel economy and the wear and tear to your car engine than the fuel you use. Sam_Walker123456
  • Score: 8

1:20pm Sun 3 Aug 14

BasingstokeCouncilSuck says...

No great loss, the most expensive petrol in the area by quite a margin. Also customers of this particular garage have been statistically 'unlucky' in the amount of them who have had their bank cards cloned.
No great loss, the most expensive petrol in the area by quite a margin. Also customers of this particular garage have been statistically 'unlucky' in the amount of them who have had their bank cards cloned. BasingstokeCouncilSuck
  • Score: 1

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