Councillor Robert Donnell claims residents have 'lost confidence' in Basingstoke and Deane over Mandydown handling

Residents have 'lost confidence' in borough, says councillor

An artist's impression of how the Manydown development could look

Cllr Robert Donnell

First published in News Basingstoke Gazette: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A SENIOR Conservative councillor has claimed that residents in some parts of Basingstoke have “lost confidence” in the borough council over its handling of the Manydown development.

Cllr Robert Donnell, cabinet member for environment and climate change and borough councillor for Winklebury, told the borough’s cabinet that residents in Winklebury feel that their voices are not being heard in relation to the Manydown site.

The development is set to see 3,400 homes built on the farmland between now and 2029, according to the borough’s draft Local Plan.

The Local Plan, which needs to be approved by a Government planning inspector, will guide where houses are built in the borough up until 2029.

Cllr Donnell told the meeting: “It is very clear from the response to the Local Plan, and also conversations with my residents, that frankly the residents of Winkle-bury, Buckskin, and I believe to some extent Oakley, have lost confidence in this council.

“In the last six months, residents – and these are residents who understand the planning system – agree the best chance for them to be heard both by this council and particular councillors is at the examination in public (of the Local Plan).”

He added: “I am confident we can rise to the challenge, and be seen to rise to the challenge.

“Unfortunately, the residents to the west of Basingstoke do not believe we have risen to the challenge at the moment.”

But Cllr Mark Ruffell, cabinet member for planning, said there have to be compromises, adding: “We have to have a Local Plan in place, and there have got to be compromises. Unfortunately, one of those compromises is that the area of land closest to his (Cllr Donnell’s) ward is going to be built upon.

“What Manydown will be if we achieve what we want to achieve will be an area that the people of Winklebury will perhaps have pleasure in visiting if they choose to do so.”

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1:59pm Wed 23 Apr 14

CrossofLorraine says...

The Government enforces a Local plan onto B&DBC weather we like it or not. These houses have to be built somewhere, the question why most are earmarked for one location makes sense from a pure planning perspective, however this isn’t right for everyone and local people must be herd and have their opinion considered as an individual or thru elected representatives. The Local Plan Areas west of Basingstoke: SS3.2 & SS3.11(B'stoke Golf club) adjoin two large farm fields - south of SS3.2 and opposite (west) SS3.11 the other side of the A30, this combined area could half impact of the Manydown development, why isn't this an option given most of the local infrastructure already in place?
We are fortunate to have a local MP who is part of the ruling Government and has the PM’s ear, why is she not actively involved in mediating between national & local governments, and helping local residents and councillors voices to be heard? I mean what else has she got to do at the moment - after she chosen the new curtains for her new Mapledurwell residence. Maybe if she lived in Worting she might have been a bit interested but I forget, it will shortly be surrounded by housing estates.
This whole Local Plan issue is screaming for firm leadership that represents what is best for B’stoke, B&DBC to be caught between rock and a hard place, can Mrs Miller step in and be seen to resolve this critical issue for her B’stoke constituents?
The Government enforces a Local plan onto B&DBC weather we like it or not. These houses have to be built somewhere, the question why most are earmarked for one location makes sense from a pure planning perspective, however this isn’t right for everyone and local people must be herd and have their opinion considered as an individual or thru elected representatives. The Local Plan Areas west of Basingstoke: SS3.2 & SS3.11(B'stoke Golf club) adjoin two large farm fields - south of SS3.2 and opposite (west) SS3.11 the other side of the A30, this combined area could half impact of the Manydown development, why isn't this an option given most of the local infrastructure already in place? We are fortunate to have a local MP who is part of the ruling Government and has the PM’s ear, why is she not actively involved in mediating between national & local governments, and helping local residents and councillors voices to be heard? I mean what else has she got to do at the moment - after she chosen the new curtains for her new Mapledurwell residence. Maybe if she lived in Worting she might have been a bit interested but I forget, it will shortly be surrounded by housing estates. This whole Local Plan issue is screaming for firm leadership that represents what is best for B’stoke, B&DBC to be caught between rock and a hard place, can Mrs Miller step in and be seen to resolve this critical issue for her B’stoke constituents? CrossofLorraine
  • Score: 2

4:22pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Pacifier says...

Cllr Ruffell would seem to be pleasing his own ward in the 'rural' part of Basingstoke at the cost of the people of Winklebury/Buckskin. The Tories have fought many elections on the fight against development at Manydown, tine to kick these turncoats out is coming up fast, we won't miss the opportunity I promise you!
Cllr Ruffell would seem to be pleasing his own ward in the 'rural' part of Basingstoke at the cost of the people of Winklebury/Buckskin. The Tories have fought many elections on the fight against development at Manydown, tine to kick these turncoats out is coming up fast, we won't miss the opportunity I promise you! Pacifier
  • Score: 5

4:24pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Pacifier says...

As for his comment that the residents of Winklebury might like to visit the development when its built, how arrogant and patronising of Ruffell...time to make these arrogant bullies pay through the ballot box
As for his comment that the residents of Winklebury might like to visit the development when its built, how arrogant and patronising of Ruffell...time to make these arrogant bullies pay through the ballot box Pacifier
  • Score: 7

11:37am Mon 28 Apr 14

Upontheroof says...

Why not build new houses by Maria Millers new house? If she want to be close and to serve the people of Basingstoke - like she claims - then she'll welcome the idea and get it under way as soon as possible!

Most people have lost confidence in Councillors some time ago as the majority are not wanted. If your faced with choosing either a known liar or a self serving liar , which one do you choose as either way your lumaxed ...
Why not build new houses by Maria Millers new house? If she want to be close and to serve the people of Basingstoke - like she claims - then she'll welcome the idea and get it under way as soon as possible! Most people have lost confidence in Councillors some time ago as the majority are not wanted. If your faced with choosing either a known liar or a self serving liar , which one do you choose as either way your lumaxed ... Upontheroof
  • Score: 3

9:14pm Mon 28 Apr 14

cllrsmw says...

CrossofLorraine wrote:
The Government enforces a Local plan onto B&DBC weather we like it or not. These houses have to be built somewhere, the question why most are earmarked for one location makes sense from a pure planning perspective, however this isn’t right for everyone and local people must be herd and have their opinion considered as an individual or thru elected representatives. The Local Plan Areas west of Basingstoke: SS3.2 & SS3.11(B'stoke Golf club) adjoin two large farm fields - south of SS3.2 and opposite (west) SS3.11 the other side of the A30, this combined area could half impact of the Manydown development, why isn't this an option given most of the local infrastructure already in place?
We are fortunate to have a local MP who is part of the ruling Government and has the PM’s ear, why is she not actively involved in mediating between national & local governments, and helping local residents and councillors voices to be heard? I mean what else has she got to do at the moment - after she chosen the new curtains for her new Mapledurwell residence. Maybe if she lived in Worting she might have been a bit interested but I forget, it will shortly be surrounded by housing estates.
This whole Local Plan issue is screaming for firm leadership that represents what is best for B’stoke, B&DBC to be caught between rock and a hard place, can Mrs Miller step in and be seen to resolve this critical issue for her B’stoke constituents?
CrossofLorraine wrote:

"We are fortunate to have a local MP who is part of the ruling Government and has the PM’s ear"

What? Surely you must have been on holiday in a cave for the past month!

BTW. How brave of Cllr Robert Donnell to speak the truth publicly now that he knows that he isn't standing again in the election and has nothing to lose. What a pitiful excuse for a Local Plan. We will become used to planning decisions being made in the court room and developers running the show. Basingstoke deserves effective leadership and not this fiasco.
[quote][p][bold]CrossofLorraine[/bold] wrote: The Government enforces a Local plan onto B&DBC weather we like it or not. These houses have to be built somewhere, the question why most are earmarked for one location makes sense from a pure planning perspective, however this isn’t right for everyone and local people must be herd and have their opinion considered as an individual or thru elected representatives. The Local Plan Areas west of Basingstoke: SS3.2 & SS3.11(B'stoke Golf club) adjoin two large farm fields - south of SS3.2 and opposite (west) SS3.11 the other side of the A30, this combined area could half impact of the Manydown development, why isn't this an option given most of the local infrastructure already in place? We are fortunate to have a local MP who is part of the ruling Government and has the PM’s ear, why is she not actively involved in mediating between national & local governments, and helping local residents and councillors voices to be heard? I mean what else has she got to do at the moment - after she chosen the new curtains for her new Mapledurwell residence. Maybe if she lived in Worting she might have been a bit interested but I forget, it will shortly be surrounded by housing estates. This whole Local Plan issue is screaming for firm leadership that represents what is best for B’stoke, B&DBC to be caught between rock and a hard place, can Mrs Miller step in and be seen to resolve this critical issue for her B’stoke constituents?[/p][/quote]CrossofLorraine wrote: "We are fortunate to have a local MP who is part of the ruling Government and has the PM’s ear" What? Surely you must have been on holiday in a cave for the past month! BTW. How brave of Cllr Robert Donnell to speak the truth publicly now that he knows that he isn't standing again in the election and has nothing to lose. What a pitiful excuse for a Local Plan. We will become used to planning decisions being made in the court room and developers running the show. Basingstoke deserves effective leadership and not this fiasco. cllrsmw
  • Score: -1

2:58pm Tue 29 Apr 14

CrossofLorraine says...

Sarcasm is truly lost on some ears. What can a redundant minister do for her constituency to prove she actually gives a fig. Take an interest in the Local Plan, its effect on B'stoke and then be seen to be doing something about reducing its impact, i.e. get involved/mediate between all parties. Or do nothing and prove what we all suspect. P.S. For some reason the PM does rate her - why she wasn't sacked immediately - and if they win the next election and she is re-elected she'll soon find herself back on a (lesser - to start with) ministerial position.
Sarcasm is truly lost on some ears. What can a redundant minister do for her constituency to prove she actually gives a fig. Take an interest in the Local Plan, its effect on B'stoke and then be seen to be doing something about reducing its impact, i.e. get involved/mediate between all parties. Or do nothing and prove what we all suspect. P.S. For some reason the PM does rate her - why she wasn't sacked immediately - and if they win the next election and she is re-elected she'll soon find herself back on a (lesser - to start with) ministerial position. CrossofLorraine
  • Score: 2

4:28pm Tue 29 Apr 14

RgPostcode says...

If these plans were human they would be preparing for University in September.
If these plans were human they would be preparing for University in September. RgPostcode
  • Score: 0

5:38pm Tue 29 Apr 14

BasingstokeCouncilSuck says...

Whatever transpires, please let's learn the lessons from Limes Park and Crown Heights.
Whatever transpires, please let's learn the lessons from Limes Park and Crown Heights. BasingstokeCouncilSuck
  • Score: 1

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