Basingstoke MP Maria Miller 'devastated' over expenses saga

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“I AM devastated that this has happened, and that I have let you down.”

That is the message from Basingstoke MP Maria Miller to readers of The Gazette as she continues to be engulfed in the raging controversy over her second home expenses claims, and her response to the investigation by Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards Kathryn Hudson.

The commissioner had recommended that Culture Secretary Mrs Miller should pay back £45,800 of the £90,000 in expenses she claimed for her second home in Wimbledon between 2005 and 2009.

But the 10 MPs and three lay people on the Conservative-dominated Parliamentary Standards Committee told Tory Mrs Miller that she should only pay back £5,800 that she overclaimed in mortgage interest.

Mrs Miller – who was cleared by the commissioner of deliberately submitting expense claims for her own benefit – was also told by the standards committee to apologise in the House of Commons for her attitude to the commissioner’s inquiries.

While she complied with this instruction last Thursday, the terse nature of her speech – it lasted a mere 32 seconds – only served to fuel the controversy, and some politicians, including Conservative peer Lord Norman Tebbit, have called for her to resign from the Cabinet.

While calls for Mrs Miller to resign or be sacked have mounted, yesterday Prime Minister David Cameron was still backing his beleagured colleague.

Writing in her weekly ‘How I See It’ column on page 2 of tomorrow’s edition of The Extra, Mrs Miller has, for the first time since last Thursday, publicly apologised to the people in her Basingstoke constituency.

She writes: “I am devastated that this has happened, and that I have let you down.”

Her column in full:

"The last 16 months have been difficult. As you know, I have been working hard for Basingstoke and also doing my job as a Cabinet minister.

"During this time, I have been subject to an intense Parliamentary inquiry looking at extensive personal details of my family life, as a result of allegations made by a Labour MP.

"That committee has now published its report and I have accepted their findings in full.

"I have unreservedly apologised for the way I handled and apporached the inquiry.

"And I am pleased that the committee has fully dismissed all of the allegations made against me.

"Separately, I have already apologised and repaid an over-claim of my expenses, having myself drawn the committee's attention to the matter immediately I was aware of it.

"I have always sought to do the best job that I can in representing the people of Basingstoke in Westminster.

"I am devastated that this has happened, and that I have let you down.

"I can only hope that over time the focus will once again be on Basingstoke."

*We have created a poll here on whether Mrs Miller should quit/resign from her position in the Cabinet or not.

*What do you think about Mrs Miller's comments? Leave your thoughts using the comments facility below.

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5:17pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Sam_Walker123456 says...

She still does not get it!
She is writing as though this is something that happened to her outside of her control.
She still does not accept that she has done anything wrong.
She believes she has been working hard for Basingstoke.
She has no shame and shows no remorse for doing wrong.
She hopes that everything will be forgiven and forgotten.
SHE HAS GOT TO GO!
She still does not get it! She is writing as though this is something that happened to her outside of her control. She still does not accept that she has done anything wrong. She believes she has been working hard for Basingstoke. She has no shame and shows no remorse for doing wrong. She hopes that everything will be forgiven and forgotten. SHE HAS GOT TO GO! Sam_Walker123456
  • Score: 397

5:30pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Ambivalent says...

She is devastated!!! Despite all her hard work she has let us down (though not admitting she has done anything wrong???
I'd be happier if she said she was devastated by realising the damage she and her party have done through there ill though out polices.
I'm pretty sure some of the people who have lost their homes as a result are pretty devastated too, or the people who are / will end up homeless or the hard working people on low incomes who are struggling to manage. Devastated, Maria, I hardly thing so.
Is it right you worked in Public Relations? Don't they call this damage limitation. Has the penny dropped?
She is devastated!!! Despite all her hard work she has let us down (though not admitting she has done anything wrong??? I'd be happier if she said she was devastated by realising the damage she and her party have done through there ill though out polices. I'm pretty sure some of the people who have lost their homes as a result are pretty devastated too, or the people who are / will end up homeless or the hard working people on low incomes who are struggling to manage. Devastated, Maria, I hardly thing so. Is it right you worked in Public Relations? Don't they call this damage limitation. Has the penny dropped? Ambivalent
  • Score: 248

5:43pm Tue 8 Apr 14

yorkey2 says...

There was a time when I felt almost proud a have an MP who was doing really well and who seemed destined for higher office.However these last few weeks have shown her as being like the rest of them..........greedy
.As for having a mortgage for twice the house value.That stinks to say the least.All to get maximum relief on the expenses apparently.
She's an intelligent woman.I'm sure she knew exactly what she was doing.
I realise it is not compulsory to live in one's constituency but the revelations about her property dealings have certainly left me feeling somewhat disillusioned.She has shown she is not up to the standards that we expected when she was first elected and perhaps she should consider her position
There was a time when I felt almost proud a have an MP who was doing really well and who seemed destined for higher office.However these last few weeks have shown her as being like the rest of them..........greedy .As for having a mortgage for twice the house value.That stinks to say the least.All to get maximum relief on the expenses apparently. She's an intelligent woman.I'm sure she knew exactly what she was doing. I realise it is not compulsory to live in one's constituency but the revelations about her property dealings have certainly left me feeling somewhat disillusioned.She has shown she is not up to the standards that we expected when she was first elected and perhaps she should consider her position yorkey2
  • Score: 220

5:52pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Abello says...

So its all a Labour MP's fault for instigating the investigation? Funny that, because in Parliament today the Tories were saying it was the media's fault for reporting it and the public's fault for failing to understand that the system has since changed so that Maria's grasping ways would not be so lucratively rewarded today.

Seems like its everyone's fault but Maria's.

No more messing around, she must go!!!
So its all a Labour MP's fault for instigating the investigation? Funny that, because in Parliament today the Tories were saying it was the media's fault for reporting it and the public's fault for failing to understand that the system has since changed so that Maria's grasping ways would not be so lucratively rewarded today. Seems like its everyone's fault but Maria's. No more messing around, she must go!!! Abello
  • Score: 255

6:00pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Max Headroom says...

A half-hearted apology from a half-hearted parachute MP. Saying "that this has happened" implies that this was a situation outside of her control, which it clearly wasn't. If I falsely claimed £45k in expenses from my employer I'd be down the job centre if I was lucky and in a prison cell if I wasn't.

She just doesn't get it. Resign now or face the consequences at the ballot box next year.
A half-hearted apology from a half-hearted parachute MP. Saying "that this has happened" implies that this was a situation outside of her control, which it clearly wasn't. If I falsely claimed £45k in expenses from my employer I'd be down the job centre if I was lucky and in a prison cell if I wasn't. She just doesn't get it. Resign now or face the consequences at the ballot box next year. Max Headroom
  • Score: 218

6:00pm Tue 8 Apr 14

basingstokebaz says...

always been a conservative voter but what ive seen of this party in last 4 years is all wrong , attack the poor and disabled , sell of the nhs to there chums , osborne best man making 34 million from sale of royal mail amongst other things , but my mp making a mockery and pocketing my hard earned cash id sooner vote labour , at least more money gets distributed but the torys just look after the 1% , maria must go as anyone accused of benefit fraud will have there case thrown out , one rule for all not just for most and others get scot free , the conservatives are ruining this country
always been a conservative voter but what ive seen of this party in last 4 years is all wrong , attack the poor and disabled , sell of the nhs to there chums , osborne best man making 34 million from sale of royal mail amongst other things , but my mp making a mockery and pocketing my hard earned cash id sooner vote labour , at least more money gets distributed but the torys just look after the 1% , maria must go as anyone accused of benefit fraud will have there case thrown out , one rule for all not just for most and others get scot free , the conservatives are ruining this country basingstokebaz
  • Score: 201

6:16pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Opinions_opinions says...

It took me 32 seconds to read ....... not much of an apology again was it ??
It took me 32 seconds to read ....... not much of an apology again was it ?? Opinions_opinions
  • Score: 107

6:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

You are an absolute disgrace to our country.
You should have resigned last week.
I don't care how good you are at your job.
You have stolen from the taxpayer and only remain in your job due to the disgusting double standards of our corrupt government.
How many people reading this newspaper could steal so much from their employer, get caught and then let off with an 87% discount and an astonishingly arrogant apology. Who do you think you are?
Unfair is working Monday lunchtime to
Thursday lunchtime in the capital, and insisting you need an extra house
because you spend Fridays somewhere else.
Unfair is using the taxpayer’s money to fund
refurbishments and speculate on the housing market, then trousering the profit.
Unfair is
looking at the MPs’ code of conduct that says they must comport
themselves in the public interest, and then deciding the best way of doing that
is to get an extra house out of it.
Unfair is claiming a second house when your
constituency is only an hour away by train. Unfair is pretending this is about
sexism, witchcraft or homophobia when it’s simply about right and wrong.
Unfair is pretending to be clean by setting
up an independent standards commissioner, then ignoring them.
Unfair is taxing the bedrooms of the
disabled, sick, dying, and widowed while feathering your own nest with as much
of the taxpayer’s cash as you think you can get away with.

P.S.- If times get tough Maria and you are thinking of selling off some posh crockery....you know that £710 claim you put made in one month...don't wang it on ebay...look me up and I'll make you an offer.
You are an absolute disgrace to our country. You should have resigned last week. I don't care how good you are at your job. You have stolen from the taxpayer and only remain in your job due to the disgusting double standards of our corrupt government. How many people reading this newspaper could steal so much from their employer, get caught and then let off with an 87% discount and an astonishingly arrogant apology. Who do you think you are? Unfair is working Monday lunchtime to Thursday lunchtime in the capital, and insisting you need an extra house because you spend Fridays somewhere else. Unfair is using the taxpayer’s money to fund refurbishments and speculate on the housing market, then trousering the profit. Unfair is looking at the MPs’ code of conduct that says they must comport themselves in the public interest, and then deciding the best way of doing that is to get an extra house out of it. Unfair is claiming a second house when your constituency is only an hour away by train. Unfair is pretending this is about sexism, witchcraft or homophobia when it’s simply about right and wrong. Unfair is pretending to be clean by setting up an independent standards commissioner, then ignoring them. Unfair is taxing the bedrooms of the disabled, sick, dying, and widowed while feathering your own nest with as much of the taxpayer’s cash as you think you can get away with. P.S.- If times get tough Maria and you are thinking of selling off some posh crockery....you know that £710 claim you put made in one month...don't wang it on ebay...look me up and I'll make you an offer. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 234

6:28pm Tue 8 Apr 14

pcpmitch95 says...

She's only devestated because she got caught. Trotters in the trough.
She's only devestated because she got caught. Trotters in the trough. pcpmitch95
  • Score: 168

6:29pm Tue 8 Apr 14

popleyrebel2 says...

Whilst working alongside Ian Duncan Smith (welfare reform) she demonised those on benefit and she picked the pockets of the disabled. Cameron wanted us to hug a hoodie and now the Tories want us to embrace a benefit cheat that has inflicted so much hardship on the less well of.
They should open up public pathway thought her new home as the taxpayer helped to pay for it.

She has brought shame on Basingstoke and should go.
Whilst working alongside Ian Duncan Smith (welfare reform) she demonised those on benefit and she picked the pockets of the disabled. Cameron wanted us to hug a hoodie and now the Tories want us to embrace a benefit cheat that has inflicted so much hardship on the less well of. They should open up public pathway thought her new home as the taxpayer helped to pay for it. She has brought shame on Basingstoke and should go. popleyrebel2
  • Score: 151

6:32pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Maria is innocent says...

Maria Miller MP needs our support. This must be a truly difficult time for her and messages of goodwill would be appreciated by all people who feel isolated and afraid to speak out in defence of this remarkable member of parliament. Forcing Maria to make these apologies is nothing less bullying in the workplace. Please join our campaign to support Maria
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Maria Miller MP needs our support. This must be a truly difficult time for her and messages of goodwill would be appreciated by all people who feel isolated and afraid to speak out in defence of this remarkable member of parliament. Forcing Maria to make these apologies is nothing less bullying in the workplace. Please join our campaign to support Maria https://www.facebook .com/mariamillerisin nocent Maria is innocent
  • Score: -321

6:33pm Tue 8 Apr 14

elahnod says...

If anyone else had done what she has done in public office they would be sacked. If she has any moral integrity she would resign, pay back the full amount and announce she will not stand for Parliament again.
Go now NOW
If anyone else had done what she has done in public office they would be sacked. If she has any moral integrity she would resign, pay back the full amount and announce she will not stand for Parliament again. Go now NOW elahnod
  • Score: 136

6:33pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Lucy-lou says...

Devastated that she got found out more like.
Devastated that she got found out more like. Lucy-lou
  • Score: 148

6:34pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Angry of Basingstoke says...

Let us down….. you weren't relegated from the Cribbage League Maria.

You have been caught stealing taxpayers money. You have been obstructive and difficult. You and your office have been threatening. You clearly have made an awful lot of money from playing houses and getting hold of large mortgages. You don't really even live here, were are just a convenience for you.

Now do the RIGHT, the HONOURABLE thing and resign. I'm pretty sure Basingstoke doesn't want you, and millions of UK taxpayers don't want you either. You have been caught and didn't even have the decency to apologise with an ounce of feeling. Basingstoke has got an extremely bad press because of you. Seriously where do you go from here?!
Let us down….. you weren't relegated from the Cribbage League Maria. You have been caught stealing taxpayers money. You have been obstructive and difficult. You and your office have been threatening. You clearly have made an awful lot of money from playing houses and getting hold of large mortgages. You don't really even live here, were are just a convenience for you. Now do the RIGHT, the HONOURABLE thing and resign. I'm pretty sure Basingstoke doesn't want you, and millions of UK taxpayers don't want you either. You have been caught and didn't even have the decency to apologise with an ounce of feeling. Basingstoke has got an extremely bad press because of you. Seriously where do you go from here?! Angry of Basingstoke
  • Score: 135

6:35pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

Any news on the By-election date yet?
Has your new £1.2 million taxpayer funded home got a bunker?
Can I come round to see what I paid for?
Any news on the By-election date yet? Has your new £1.2 million taxpayer funded home got a bunker? Can I come round to see what I paid for? Benefit Thief
  • Score: 131

6:39pm Tue 8 Apr 14

trickymicky1 says...

I'll be DEVASTATED if she RESIGNS.

Because, the longer she stays, the more votes my party will get, from her own peeded off constituents!

Please stay, Maria, pretty please, you are doing a fantastic job of demolishing the Tory vote in Basingstoke!

Did Maria ever think that her expenses 'claim' for a £0.19p 'staple extractor' on her parliamentary 'expenses' would have ever led to 'THIS' mortgage 'mistake'?

PLEASE DON'T GO MARIA, MY PARTY NEEDS YOUR 'DEVASTATED' CONSTITUENTS 'VOTES'
I'll be DEVASTATED if she RESIGNS. Because, the longer she stays, the more votes my party will get, from her own peeded off constituents! Please stay, Maria, pretty please, you are doing a fantastic job of demolishing the Tory vote in Basingstoke! Did Maria ever think that her expenses 'claim' for a £0.19p 'staple extractor' on her parliamentary 'expenses' would have ever led to 'THIS' mortgage 'mistake'? PLEASE DON'T GO MARIA, MY PARTY NEEDS YOUR 'DEVASTATED' CONSTITUENTS 'VOTES' trickymicky1
  • Score: 92

6:43pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Angry of Basingstoke says...

If you cared…. you would go!
If you cared…. you would go! Angry of Basingstoke
  • Score: 94

6:49pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Christian Barnes says...

I think we would all like a third party to fund our mortgages without seeking a charge on the equity in the property then sell our houses for millions without incurring any capital gains tax! I would be very interested in speaking to anyone who would like to make me an offer like that. Devastated? I feel for her!
I think we would all like a third party to fund our mortgages without seeking a charge on the equity in the property then sell our houses for millions without incurring any capital gains tax! I would be very interested in speaking to anyone who would like to make me an offer like that. Devastated? I feel for her! Christian Barnes
  • Score: 75

6:51pm Tue 8 Apr 14

FlippinHeckMate says...

To justify her parents living with her, which at the time was against the rules, Miller wrote to the Commissioner and said:
My circumstances are simply that family includes my parents for whom I have caring responsibilities
She repeats this a lot in all her correspondence during the investigation - she was her parents carer.
However, in 2008, which was during the claim period in dispute, she was interviewed on Mumsnet and said the following:
We have holidays (recess) once in a while when the House is not sitting. They're very similar to school holidays, happening at Christmas, Easter and summer. So I try and spend as much time with my children as possible during recess. When the House is sitting, I try to ring all of my children at the end of their school day. My husband is a City lawyer, so he works very long hours too. Luckily, we have live-in grandparents, who are the best form of childcare, and an au pair. I know that a lot of parents can’t afford such help and that is why I think it's important we make childcare as affordable as possible.
That is, she was able to do her job as her parents were providing child care services. Or, her parents were dependent on her but were also carers in their own right.
Common sense and logic should show that this cannot be true, especially when it comes to putting large housing claims in to Parliament. Her parents cannot be dependent and carers at the same time.
Ergo, Miller either lied to the Commissioner or lied to Mumsnet. I know which I believe to be most likely, and hence my anger at the whole situation.
I just wish a journo or two would pick up on this.
To justify her parents living with her, which at the time was against the rules, Miller wrote to the Commissioner and said: My circumstances are simply that family includes my parents for whom I have caring responsibilities She repeats this a lot in all her correspondence during the investigation - she was her parents carer. However, in 2008, which was during the claim period in dispute, she was interviewed on Mumsnet and said the following: We have holidays (recess) once in a while when the House is not sitting. They're very similar to school holidays, happening at Christmas, Easter and summer. So I try and spend as much time with my children as possible during recess. When the House is sitting, I try to ring all of my children at the end of their school day. My husband is a City lawyer, so he works very long hours too. Luckily, we have live-in grandparents, who are the best form of childcare, and an au pair. I know that a lot of parents can’t afford such help and that is why I think it's important we make childcare as affordable as possible. That is, she was able to do her job as her parents were providing child care services. Or, her parents were dependent on her but were also carers in their own right. Common sense and logic should show that this cannot be true, especially when it comes to putting large housing claims in to Parliament. Her parents cannot be dependent and carers at the same time. Ergo, Miller either lied to the Commissioner or lied to Mumsnet. I know which I believe to be most likely, and hence my anger at the whole situation. I just wish a journo or two would pick up on this. FlippinHeckMate
  • Score: 144

6:53pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

I just took a car to which I was not entitled. I apologise and will repay a spare wheel.
That’s fair.
I just took a car to which I was not entitled. I apologise and will repay a spare wheel. That’s fair. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 105

6:54pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

Maria Says:
"Profits on houses and cash in my pocket
Insincere apologies and a nice golden locket
Emailed threats all tied up with strings
These are a few of my favourite things
A brand new mansion and servants to serve me
A tidy profit thanks to all you taxpaying patsies
I threatened to cut off the free press at the wings
These are a few of my favourite things"
Maria Says: "Profits on houses and cash in my pocket Insincere apologies and a nice golden locket Emailed threats all tied up with strings These are a few of my favourite things A brand new mansion and servants to serve me A tidy profit thanks to all you taxpaying patsies I threatened to cut off the free press at the wings These are a few of my favourite things" Benefit Thief
  • Score: 84

7:01pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Microbe says...

The 'morality' whereby MP's can profiteer with second-home gain is utterly despicable. That all too clear deafening silence we hear from so many parliamentarians across the political spectrum over the present Miller scandal indicates the same 'guilt' is extant on the benches of the House of Commons.
The 'morality' whereby MP's can profiteer with second-home gain is utterly despicable. That all too clear deafening silence we hear from so many parliamentarians across the political spectrum over the present Miller scandal indicates the same 'guilt' is extant on the benches of the House of Commons. Microbe
  • Score: 74

7:01pm Tue 8 Apr 14

angryhardworkingman says...

How you have the audacity to write this cringing column in this paper beggars belief. Shame on you. You should have listened to Betty Boothroyds comments tonight on Radio 4 tonight instead of that crass from your private secretary (oh she has aplogised, she is a good culture secretary, she has paid back the money and she should be allowed to get on with the job.- it made my stomach turn. You just dont get it do you. You should have resigned last weekend. Lets hope your constituents see sense and get rid of you. !!!!
How you have the audacity to write this cringing column in this paper beggars belief. Shame on you. You should have listened to Betty Boothroyds comments tonight on Radio 4 tonight instead of that crass from your private secretary (oh she has aplogised, she is a good culture secretary, she has paid back the money and she should be allowed to get on with the job.- it made my stomach turn. You just dont get it do you. You should have resigned last weekend. Lets hope your constituents see sense and get rid of you. !!!! angryhardworkingman
  • Score: 98

7:04pm Tue 8 Apr 14

trickymicky1 says...

http://www.parliamen
tary-standards.org.u
k/Results.aspx
Claim Ref. No. Payment to Supplier
MP Maria Miller Financial Year 2013-14
Expense Category Office Costs Expense Type Stationery
Purchase Amount Claimed £0.19p
Amount Paid £0.19p
Amount Not Paid £0.00 Amount Repaid
N/A Status Paid Date 16/07/2013
Details Rapesco Staple Extractor
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19p? effing 19p!

Fcuking 'cheapskate'!

Stiil,

Didn't take her long to 'learn the ropes' and claim almost £90.000.00p (in 4 years) in taxpayer funded 'mortgage' payments, did it?
http://www.parliamen tary-standards.org.u k/Results.aspx Claim Ref. No. Payment to Supplier MP Maria Miller Financial Year 2013-14 Expense Category Office Costs Expense Type Stationery Purchase Amount Claimed £0.19p Amount Paid £0.19p Amount Not Paid £0.00 Amount Repaid N/A Status Paid Date 16/07/2013 Details Rapesco Staple Extractor -------------------- -------------------- ---- 19p? effing 19p! Fcuking 'cheapskate'! Stiil, Didn't take her long to 'learn the ropes' and claim almost £90.000.00p (in 4 years) in taxpayer funded 'mortgage' payments, did it? trickymicky1
  • Score: 83

7:05pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

Maria Miller has been Culture Secretary for 18 months. She has been ordered to repay over-claimed expenses for fiddling from day one. Mates rates have qualified her for a staggering 87% reduction.
If you or I were abusing our employers expenses policy in the first year, this Government are happy for us to be sacked for gross misconduct WITHOUT any right of recourse to an employment tribunal.
DOUBLE STANDARDS.
Maria Miller has been Culture Secretary for 18 months. She has been ordered to repay over-claimed expenses for fiddling from day one. Mates rates have qualified her for a staggering 87% reduction. If you or I were abusing our employers expenses policy in the first year, this Government are happy for us to be sacked for gross misconduct WITHOUT any right of recourse to an employment tribunal. DOUBLE STANDARDS. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 88

7:05pm Tue 8 Apr 14

akalala says...

I wrote to her a few time when she was the Minister for Disabled and I am from Basingstoke. I want her to review how The then Disability act was enforces. It seem the only way is to take employer to tribunal and could there not be a extremal enforce so call reasonable adjustment. She explain that time were hard and that was the money ie she does care and it not important enough. What has she done as local minster, the road are a disgrace pot holes every where and localise flooding when it rain for only a few hours lightly, the mental health service locally is a mess compared to other places.

I'm sure the list goes on she has done little for us and everything for her own gains!
I wrote to her a few time when she was the Minister for Disabled and I am from Basingstoke. I want her to review how The then Disability act was enforces. It seem the only way is to take employer to tribunal and could there not be a extremal enforce so call reasonable adjustment. She explain that time were hard and that was the money ie she does care and it not important enough. What has she done as local minster, the road are a disgrace pot holes every where and localise flooding when it rain for only a few hours lightly, the mental health service locally is a mess compared to other places. I'm sure the list goes on she has done little for us and everything for her own gains! akalala
  • Score: 74

7:08pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Microbe says...

BASINGSTOKE! PLEASE DE-SELECT HER NOW!!! SHE's A COMPLETE LIABILITY!
BASINGSTOKE! PLEASE DE-SELECT HER NOW!!! SHE's A COMPLETE LIABILITY! Microbe
  • Score: 84

7:09pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Sauron says...

Maria says she is "devastated" in her column.... makes a change from her saying she is "delighted" a phrase she uses in abundance each week in her column, usually to describe an event that she has only heard about.

She also says "I have been working hard for Basingstoke" what has she ever done for this town? I have lived here 14 years and never once had her campaigning on my doorstep, and I see even her ex-campaign manager has turned on her now.
I knew what miller was all about when I looked up her expenses claims a few years ago, she claimed £17 for an iron!!!

She is only devastated that she got caught, if I got caught fiddling my expenses, I would get sacked on the spot and probably never get another job in the same industry again due to my bad reference.
She should go, go now, and never be allowed to be a politician again.
Maria says she is "devastated" in her column.... makes a change from her saying she is "delighted" a phrase she uses in abundance each week in her column, usually to describe an event that she has only heard about. She also says "I have been working hard for Basingstoke" what has she ever done for this town? I have lived here 14 years and never once had her campaigning on my doorstep, and I see even her ex-campaign manager has turned on her now. I knew what miller was all about when I looked up her expenses claims a few years ago, she claimed £17 for an iron!!! She is only devastated that she got caught, if I got caught fiddling my expenses, I would get sacked on the spot and probably never get another job in the same industry again due to my bad reference. She should go, go now, and never be allowed to be a politician again. Sauron
  • Score: 91

7:09pm Tue 8 Apr 14

trickymicky1 says...

angryhardworkingman wrote:
How you have the audacity to write this cringing column in this paper beggars belief. Shame on you. You should have listened to Betty Boothroyds comments tonight on Radio 4 tonight instead of that crass from your private secretary (oh she has aplogised, she is a good culture secretary, she has paid back the money and she should be allowed to get on with the job.- it made my stomach turn. You just dont get it do you. You should have resigned last weekend. Lets hope your constituents see sense and get rid of you. !!!!
http://www.parliamen
tary-standards.org.u
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[quote][p][bold]angryhardworkingman[/bold] wrote: How you have the audacity to write this cringing column in this paper beggars belief. Shame on you. You should have listened to Betty Boothroyds comments tonight on Radio 4 tonight instead of that crass from your private secretary (oh she has aplogised, she is a good culture secretary, she has paid back the money and she should be allowed to get on with the job.- it made my stomach turn. You just dont get it do you. You should have resigned last weekend. Lets hope your constituents see sense and get rid of you. !!!![/p][/quote]http://www.parliamen tary-standards.org.u k/Results.aspx trickymicky1
  • Score: 41

7:09pm Tue 8 Apr 14

NoToHareCoursing says...

I see Mrs Miller as one of the more 'normal' and 'human' (as well as humane and sympathetic) members of Mr Cameron's top team. I advise her to stick it out.
I see Mrs Miller as one of the more 'normal' and 'human' (as well as humane and sympathetic) members of Mr Cameron's top team. I advise her to stick it out. NoToHareCoursing
  • Score: -127

7:11pm Tue 8 Apr 14

akalala says...

one rule for one and one rule for another, It I had taken £45,800 I would a) know about it and b) expect to be take to court over the situation.

It does not seem fair that some have in prison when other are protect by the PM as guess protect you own even if they are in the wrong. I'm sure she would be facing a jail sentence if she was batting for the other side.
one rule for one and one rule for another, It I had taken £45,800 I would a) know about it and b) expect to be take to court over the situation. It does not seem fair that some have in prison when other are protect by the PM as guess protect you own even if they are in the wrong. I'm sure she would be facing a jail sentence if she was batting for the other side. akalala
  • Score: 72

7:12pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Nickyisgod says...

Devastated?! Let's not forget that but for the work of a journalist and a newspaper none of this would ever have come to light.

Devastated you've been caught more like. You're clinging on to your job because a) your party leader is weak and b) your astounding arrogance.

You've now got your friends in the Tory party suggesting this is a press witch hunt. You're ignoring the fact that your constituents are fuming!

Resign.
Devastated?! Let's not forget that but for the work of a journalist and a newspaper none of this would ever have come to light. Devastated you've been caught more like. You're clinging on to your job because a) your party leader is weak and b) your astounding arrogance. You've now got your friends in the Tory party suggesting this is a press witch hunt. You're ignoring the fact that your constituents are fuming! Resign. Nickyisgod
  • Score: 87

7:18pm Tue 8 Apr 14

David_Mc says...

So what picture is Maria Miller trying to portray in her article. Let's look at some of the phrases she uses:
"The last 16 months have been difficult..."
"I have been working hard..."
"I have been subject to an intense Parliamentary inquiry..."
"personal details of my family life..."
"I am devastated that this has happened..."
So the first impression she wants to give us is that she is a victim?
And of course Maria is a political animal so has to get in a party political comment:
"allegations made by a Labour MP."
So she is a victim and she has now told us who she things did this to her.
Then what does she say next? She puts the apology in the past tense; she does not apologise to the people of Basingstoke, she just refers back to her perfunctory apology in parliament.
There is so much missing from this statement by Maria that it is breath taking. I know that Maria is not stupid, so the only other conclusion I can see is that she is contemptuous of us.
So what picture is Maria Miller trying to portray in her article. Let's look at some of the phrases she uses: "The last 16 months have been difficult..." "I have been working hard..." "I have been subject to an intense Parliamentary inquiry..." "personal details of my family life..." "I am devastated that this has happened..." So the first impression she wants to give us is that she is a victim? And of course Maria is a political animal so has to get in a party political comment: "allegations made by a Labour MP." So she is a victim and she has now told us who she things did this to her. Then what does she say next? She puts the apology in the past tense; she does not apologise to the people of Basingstoke, she just refers back to her perfunctory apology in parliament. There is so much missing from this statement by Maria that it is breath taking. I know that Maria is not stupid, so the only other conclusion I can see is that she is contemptuous of us. David_Mc
  • Score: 101

7:20pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Ladybird24 says...

This apology is too little too late, and is nothing more than a publicity stunt to cover her back. Yes Maria, you have let the Basingstoke people down and must think we are stupid if you think we can ever believe a word you say again!!!
Do the right thing, pay back ALL the money (45,000) you owe and RESIGN,. No one wants a dishonest MP in this town!!!
This apology is too little too late, and is nothing more than a publicity stunt to cover her back. Yes Maria, you have let the Basingstoke people down and must think we are stupid if you think we can ever believe a word you say again!!! Do the right thing, pay back ALL the money (45,000) you owe and RESIGN,. No one wants a dishonest MP in this town!!! Ladybird24
  • Score: 83

7:22pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

Did somebody say psychopath?
Did somebody say psychopath? Benefit Thief
  • Score: 31

7:28pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Angry of Basingstoke says...

People of Basingstoke please tell Maria Miller exactly what you think… I personally am appalled and disgusted with her antics if you can call it that, most call it theft…. she has been caught….so many MPs have been caught also, yet she still can't see what she has done to all of us as our supposed elected MP. Please Deselect now! Please show the UK we are honourable and honest people

MM's an embarrassment to Basingstoke, she has a very bad attitude and was obstructive and threatening to the Parliamentary Committee that was investigating her…. and Basingstoke deserves better!
People of Basingstoke please tell Maria Miller exactly what you think… I personally am appalled and disgusted with her antics if you can call it that, most call it theft…. she has been caught….so many MPs have been caught also, yet she still can't see what she has done to all of us as our supposed elected MP. Please Deselect now! Please show the UK we are honourable and honest people MM's an embarrassment to Basingstoke, she has a very bad attitude and was obstructive and threatening to the Parliamentary Committee that was investigating her…. and Basingstoke deserves better! Angry of Basingstoke
  • Score: 75

7:32pm Tue 8 Apr 14

trickymicky1 says...

National Benefit Fraud Hotline 0800 854 440

REPORT MM NOW!
National Benefit Fraud Hotline 0800 854 440 REPORT MM NOW! trickymicky1
  • Score: 70

7:33pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

You have to admit it, the press have done an excellent job in exposing you as an expenses tart.
The arrogance was an unexpected extra.
How long do you intend to draw out the ongoing collateral damage?
You have to admit it, the press have done an excellent job in exposing you as an expenses tart. The arrogance was an unexpected extra. How long do you intend to draw out the ongoing collateral damage? Benefit Thief
  • Score: 61

7:34pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Kanjin Tor says...

You are a Criminal Maria Miller and everybody I talk to here in Basingstoke wants your head on a plate..
You are a Criminal Maria Miller and everybody I talk to here in Basingstoke wants your head on a plate.. Kanjin Tor
  • Score: 71

7:37pm Tue 8 Apr 14

BasingstokeJon says...

Whatever your politics I really don't think Maria Miller has done anything constructive for our town, I, reluctantly, voted for her at the last election but would not in future, when was the last time she actually attended the remembrance service in town? I attend every year and for the recent past I have only seen her "representative" there. Whatever you thought about Andrew Hunter he was normally there to acknowledge our armed forces and their contribution and sacfrice and also made himself available to his constituants. Those who represent us should be part of the community and live here, not just dropped into a "safe" seat.
Whatever your politics I really don't think Maria Miller has done anything constructive for our town, I, reluctantly, voted for her at the last election but would not in future, when was the last time she actually attended the remembrance service in town? I attend every year and for the recent past I have only seen her "representative" there. Whatever you thought about Andrew Hunter he was normally there to acknowledge our armed forces and their contribution and sacfrice and also made himself available to his constituants. Those who represent us should be part of the community and live here, not just dropped into a "safe" seat. BasingstokeJon
  • Score: 65

7:41pm Tue 8 Apr 14

blingebottel says...

She just doesn't get it does she??
They never seem to either.
They think THEY put themselves there, & cannot assimilate the mindset that WE, WE, W E do it. NOT them.
MM's just another sufferer from 'Politicochronocosis
' ......and whatsmore few ever realise they are carriers of this dread affliction until it's too late & they must be 'put down'.
The late, brilliant Robert Robinson SERIOUSLY postulated that 'we'd' be better off with 659 names chosen at random from the 'phone book.
I agree.
MM MUST GO.
She just doesn't get it does she?? They never seem to either. They think THEY put themselves there, & cannot assimilate the mindset that WE, WE, W E do it. NOT them. MM's just another sufferer from 'Politicochronocosis ' [as I define it]......and whatsmore few ever realise they are carriers of this dread affliction until it's too late & they must be 'put down'. The late, brilliant Robert Robinson [Oxon.] [BBC Points of View etc.] SERIOUSLY postulated that 'we'd' be better off with 659 names chosen at random from the 'phone book. I agree. MM MUST GO. blingebottel
  • Score: 64

7:43pm Tue 8 Apr 14

DougieL says...

There's more to it than the £45K vs £5800.

Why did she need a house in Wimbledon, it's half way between here and Westminster and Basingstoke is only an hour out from there?

Why did she over mortgage it to the full £525K allowance, the house wasn't worth that much?

Why didn't she come clean before the rules changed, why drag it out by being awkward until the new rules for expenses come in?

Why aren't MP's staff paid as salaried employees rather than counting as part of an MP's expenses?

If I earned £60K as an MP or £134K as a cabinet minister I don't think the expenses would be needed, that's more than 2.5 times the average pay (as an MP) and five times the average pay as a cabinet minister. Nice work if you can get it.

She needs to apply for the Stewardship for the Chiltern Hundreds (a post occupied by the equally crooked Chris Huhne right now) and we need a by-election for a new MP for Basingstoke.

I predict that will happen before the end of this week.
There's more to it than the £45K vs £5800. Why did she need a house in Wimbledon, it's half way between here and Westminster and Basingstoke is only an hour out from there? Why did she over mortgage it to the full £525K allowance, the house wasn't worth that much? Why didn't she come clean before the rules changed, why drag it out by being awkward until the new rules for expenses come in? Why aren't MP's staff paid as salaried employees rather than counting as part of an MP's expenses? If I earned £60K as an MP or £134K as a cabinet minister I don't think the expenses would be needed, that's more than 2.5 times the average pay (as an MP) and five times the average pay as a cabinet minister. Nice work if you can get it. She needs to apply for the Stewardship for the Chiltern Hundreds (a post occupied by the equally crooked Chris Huhne right now) and we need a by-election for a new MP for Basingstoke. I predict that will happen before the end of this week. DougieL
  • Score: 70

7:47pm Tue 8 Apr 14

trickymicky1 says...

https://www.gov.uk/r
eport-benefit-fraud

Ian "I'm very fond of Maria" Duncan Smith, wants YOU to report 'benefits' FRAUDSTERS!

As long as they are NOT his fellow serving 'honourable', MP 'mates'!

Only 'sink estate' fraudsters NOT million pound, taxpayer funded, homeowning Tory MP's, you'll understand.
https://www.gov.uk/r eport-benefit-fraud Ian "I'm very fond of Maria" Duncan Smith, wants YOU to report 'benefits' FRAUDSTERS! As long as they are NOT his fellow serving 'honourable', MP 'mates'! Only 'sink estate' fraudsters NOT million pound, taxpayer funded, homeowning Tory MP's, you'll understand. trickymicky1
  • Score: 65

7:47pm Tue 8 Apr 14

DougieL says...

Maria is innocent wrote:
Maria Miller MP needs our support. This must be a truly difficult time for her and messages of goodwill would be appreciated by all people who feel isolated and afraid to speak out in defence of this remarkable member of parliament. Forcing Maria to make these apologies is nothing less bullying in the workplace. Please join our campaign to support Maria
https://www.facebook

.com/mariamillerisin

nocent
I suspect you are a patsy or sock puppet from the Basingstoke Conservative Party. How anyone can defend the indefensible puzzles me.

End of the week - she will be gone. If she gets on with it we can have the by-election to coincide with the May council and euro elections.
[quote][p][bold]Maria is innocent[/bold] wrote: Maria Miller MP needs our support. This must be a truly difficult time for her and messages of goodwill would be appreciated by all people who feel isolated and afraid to speak out in defence of this remarkable member of parliament. Forcing Maria to make these apologies is nothing less bullying in the workplace. Please join our campaign to support Maria https://www.facebook .com/mariamillerisin nocent[/p][/quote]I suspect you are a patsy or sock puppet from the Basingstoke Conservative Party. How anyone can defend the indefensible puzzles me. End of the week - she will be gone. If she gets on with it we can have the by-election to coincide with the May council and euro elections. DougieL
  • Score: 63

7:51pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

Betty Boothroyd gave her views on this on Radio 4 this afternoon.
Good old Betty, a true old school parliamentarian, she tore into the Miller creature. Said she was dishonourable, should have resigned at the time and should resign now. Cameron should sack her, the Committee had no right to set aside the Commissioner's findings and the so-called extra evidence the Committee used to justify their decision should have been referred back to the Commissioner.
Betty was superb.
Betty Boothroyd gave her views on this on Radio 4 this afternoon. Good old Betty, a true old school parliamentarian, she tore into the Miller creature. Said she was dishonourable, should have resigned at the time and should resign now. Cameron should sack her, the Committee had no right to set aside the Commissioner's findings and the so-called extra evidence the Committee used to justify their decision should have been referred back to the Commissioner. Betty was superb. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 66

7:53pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Town Guard says...

FlippinHeckMate wrote:
To justify her parents living with her, which at the time was against the rules, Miller wrote to the Commissioner and said:
My circumstances are simply that family includes my parents for whom I have caring responsibilities
She repeats this a lot in all her correspondence during the investigation - she was her parents carer.
However, in 2008, which was during the claim period in dispute, she was interviewed on Mumsnet and said the following:
We have holidays (recess) once in a while when the House is not sitting. They're very similar to school holidays, happening at Christmas, Easter and summer. So I try and spend as much time with my children as possible during recess. When the House is sitting, I try to ring all of my children at the end of their school day. My husband is a City lawyer, so he works very long hours too. Luckily, we have live-in grandparents, who are the best form of childcare, and an au pair. I know that a lot of parents can’t afford such help and that is why I think it's important we make childcare as affordable as possible.
That is, she was able to do her job as her parents were providing child care services. Or, her parents were dependent on her but were also carers in their own right.
Common sense and logic should show that this cannot be true, especially when it comes to putting large housing claims in to Parliament. Her parents cannot be dependent and carers at the same time.
Ergo, Miller either lied to the Commissioner or lied to Mumsnet. I know which I believe to be most likely, and hence my anger at the whole situation.
I just wish a journo or two would pick up on this.
spot on.

How much was the mortgage when she brought the house 10 years before she became an MP.

Why did it go up massively just before she started claiming for it on expenses

Why did she stop claiming if she had done nothing wrong.

Why did her so called second home, suddenly become her main home, what had changed apart from the scandal of her claiming a rented plcae in Basingstoke was her main home
[quote][p][bold]FlippinHeckMate[/bold] wrote: To justify her parents living with her, which at the time was against the rules, Miller wrote to the Commissioner and said: My circumstances are simply that family includes my parents for whom I have caring responsibilities She repeats this a lot in all her correspondence during the investigation - she was her parents carer. However, in 2008, which was during the claim period in dispute, she was interviewed on Mumsnet and said the following: We have holidays (recess) once in a while when the House is not sitting. They're very similar to school holidays, happening at Christmas, Easter and summer. So I try and spend as much time with my children as possible during recess. When the House is sitting, I try to ring all of my children at the end of their school day. My husband is a City lawyer, so he works very long hours too. Luckily, we have live-in grandparents, who are the best form of childcare, and an au pair. I know that a lot of parents can’t afford such help and that is why I think it's important we make childcare as affordable as possible. That is, she was able to do her job as her parents were providing child care services. Or, her parents were dependent on her but were also carers in their own right. Common sense and logic should show that this cannot be true, especially when it comes to putting large housing claims in to Parliament. Her parents cannot be dependent and carers at the same time. Ergo, Miller either lied to the Commissioner or lied to Mumsnet. I know which I believe to be most likely, and hence my anger at the whole situation. I just wish a journo or two would pick up on this.[/p][/quote]spot on. How much was the mortgage when she brought the house 10 years before she became an MP. Why did it go up massively just before she started claiming for it on expenses Why did she stop claiming if she had done nothing wrong. Why did her so called second home, suddenly become her main home, what had changed apart from the scandal of her claiming a rented plcae in Basingstoke was her main home Town Guard
  • Score: 69

7:55pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

The elephant in the room here isn't the £5800 or the £45,000. It's the whopping £1.2 million profit on the property. Effectively a free gift from the country simply for being an MP.
The elephant in the room here isn't the £5800 or the £45,000. It's the whopping £1.2 million profit on the property. Effectively a free gift from the country simply for being an MP. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 69

7:58pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

You should now step down as an MP.
No more clues.
You should now step down as an MP. No more clues. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 60

7:59pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Town Guard says...

I didn't notice any apology - her most important point is that she is devastated, secondly she has let us down but doesn't say how and then repeats the line that the committee has dismissed the allegations against her. But at no time does she apologise for being so greedy. At no time does she apologise for designating her London home as her secondary home, when clear it was not, whatever the rules said. At no point does she explain why someone who is in the Cabinet claiming to be one of our most bright and outstanding MPs failed to notice the change in interest rates and kept claiming for more than she was paying. But she obviously pay very close attention to her mortgage and kept increasing it.
I didn't notice any apology - her most important point is that she is devastated, secondly she has let us down but doesn't say how and then repeats the line that the committee has dismissed the allegations against her. But at no time does she apologise for being so greedy. At no time does she apologise for designating her London home as her secondary home, when clear it was not, whatever the rules said. At no point does she explain why someone who is in the Cabinet claiming to be one of our most bright and outstanding MPs failed to notice the change in interest rates and kept claiming for more than she was paying. But she obviously pay very close attention to her mortgage and kept increasing it. Town Guard
  • Score: 56

8:01pm Tue 8 Apr 14

brooksider says...

She hasn't just let Basingstoke down, she has let her self, her Party, her parents and the whole country down.

What a mess this greedy woman has created.
She hasn't just let Basingstoke down, she has let her self, her Party, her parents and the whole country down. What a mess this greedy woman has created. brooksider
  • Score: 61

8:14pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

I wish I could be devastated and £1.2m pounds richer.
I'd go asap luv.
You know what they say...the higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more of it's bum we can see.
I wish I could be devastated and £1.2m pounds richer. I'd go asap luv. You know what they say...the higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more of it's bum we can see. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 61

8:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

brasstacks says...

Dear Ms Miller...you will no doubt be aware of The Social Security Fraud Act 2001 - section 16.."Offence of failing to notify of a change of circumstances"

Given that you have been "claiming' an Allowance which in turn is a Benefit and you have now admitted you did wrongly, what makes you so special that you are allowed to get away with it ?

As you revel in the attention that your misdemeanours have caused, take a moment to think of the the REAL Victims in Basingstoke and the UK who have to go without 1 decent home, decent support and an MP who is transparent and working for the People and not her Political Party (and herself...)

I would ask you WHY on a fair old few of your Parliamentary Expenses Claims you have felt the need for copious amounts of Office Supplies ?

I truly hope and trust that your New Home is not going to be the subject of further Expense Claims by you..

Like you, I and many other people have bags under our eyes and exhibit signs of stress

Unlike you, I and many others do not have the advantage of your Salary and Expenses & Allowances all of which we fund for you from our taxes..

It is said that: Honesty is not the absence of conflict but merely the ability to cope with it"

I would respectfully point out to you that, you have not been honest in any way shape or form and.... we do NOT have to cope with watching you get out of and away with, your Liabilities to the Public purse
Dear Ms Miller...you will no doubt be aware of The Social Security Fraud Act 2001 - section 16.."Offence of failing to notify of a change of circumstances" Given that you have been "claiming' an Allowance which in turn is a Benefit and you have now admitted you did wrongly, what makes you so special that you are allowed to get away with it ? As you revel in the attention that your misdemeanours have caused, take a moment to think of the the REAL Victims in Basingstoke and the UK who have to go without 1 decent home, decent support and an MP who is transparent and working for the People and not her Political Party (and herself...) I would ask you WHY on a fair old few of your Parliamentary Expenses Claims you have felt the need for copious amounts of Office Supplies ? I truly hope and trust that your New Home is not going to be the subject of further Expense Claims by you.. Like you, I and many other people have bags under our eyes and exhibit signs of stress Unlike you, I and many others do not have the advantage of your Salary and Expenses & Allowances all of which we fund for you from our taxes.. It is said that: Honesty is not the absence of conflict but merely the ability to cope with it" I would respectfully point out to you that, you have not been honest in any way shape or form and.... we do NOT have to cope with watching you get out of and away with, your Liabilities to the Public purse brasstacks
  • Score: 56

8:32pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Sensory says...

Just think what would happen if she wasn't an MP though!

http://www.basingsto
kegazette.co.uk/news
/10720895.Mum_jailed
_for___60_000_benefi
t_fraud/?ref=rc

Maybe a bit of justice?
Just think what would happen if she wasn't an MP though! http://www.basingsto kegazette.co.uk/news /10720895.Mum_jailed _for___60_000_benefi t_fraud/?ref=rc Maybe a bit of justice? Sensory
  • Score: 36

8:39pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

£45,800 ? Just drop the number ’4′. All agreed ? Good.

Bring me the head of David Cameron.
£45,800 ? Just drop the number ’4′. All agreed ? Good. Bring me the head of David Cameron. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 39

9:20pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Bill_Miller says...

I'm retired and have voted Conservative since I started voting. But no more.

I agree with the many comments here saying she just doesn't get it. She doesn't yet begin to understand the sort of integrity we expect from our politicians or the long list of things she has done wrong.

Unfortunately nor does Cameron. They are live in a disconnected world, unaware their dishonesty is floodlight by their attempts to blame anything else they can think of and to minimise what they are forced to recognise.

It is a disgrace that the lessons of the expenses scandal have not been learned, we need huge change.
I'm retired and have voted Conservative since I started voting. But no more. I agree with the many comments here saying she just doesn't get it. She doesn't yet begin to understand the sort of integrity we expect from our politicians or the long list of things she has done wrong. Unfortunately nor does Cameron. They are live in a disconnected world, unaware their dishonesty is floodlight by their attempts to blame anything else they can think of and to minimise what they are forced to recognise. It is a disgrace that the lessons of the expenses scandal have not been learned, we need huge change. Bill_Miller
  • Score: 51

9:26pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Firebeard says...

How do you solve a problem like Maria?
It seems that her expenses claims are fake.
How do you solve a problem like Maria?
She's just another MP on the take.
How can they say we're all in it together
If she can dodge the laws that catch us all?
If she'd claimed JSA
Or even ESA
They'd sanction her, then send the police to call.
How do you solve a problem like Maria?
Prosecute her. Prosecute them all.
How do you solve a problem like Maria? It seems that her expenses claims are fake. How do you solve a problem like Maria? She's just another MP on the take. How can they say we're all in it together If she can dodge the laws that catch us all? If she'd claimed JSA Or even ESA They'd sanction her, then send the police to call. How do you solve a problem like Maria? Prosecute her. Prosecute them all. Firebeard
  • Score: 38

9:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

AbsolutelyPassionate says...

basingstokebaz wrote:
always been a conservative voter but what ive seen of this party in last 4 years is all wrong , attack the poor and disabled , sell of the nhs to there chums , osborne best man making 34 million from sale of royal mail amongst other things , but my mp making a mockery and pocketing my hard earned cash id sooner vote labour , at least more money gets distributed but the torys just look after the 1% , maria must go as anyone accused of benefit fraud will have there case thrown out , one rule for all not just for most and others get scot free , the conservatives are ruining this country
The choice is not just LibLabCon.
[quote][p][bold]basingstokebaz[/bold] wrote: always been a conservative voter but what ive seen of this party in last 4 years is all wrong , attack the poor and disabled , sell of the nhs to there chums , osborne best man making 34 million from sale of royal mail amongst other things , but my mp making a mockery and pocketing my hard earned cash id sooner vote labour , at least more money gets distributed but the torys just look after the 1% , maria must go as anyone accused of benefit fraud will have there case thrown out , one rule for all not just for most and others get scot free , the conservatives are ruining this country[/p][/quote]The choice is not just LibLabCon. AbsolutelyPassionate
  • Score: 21

9:39pm Tue 8 Apr 14

appppy says...

Not sorry enough to a) pay back the full amount and b) resign. Looks like it is up to us to throw her out at the next election, no one whom I know voted for her in the last election is intending to vote for her at the next election.
Not sorry enough to a) pay back the full amount and b) resign. Looks like it is up to us to throw her out at the next election, no one whom I know voted for her in the last election is intending to vote for her at the next election. appppy
  • Score: 26

9:46pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Smithy50 says...

I wonder if the agoraphobic woman who was found guilty of benefits fraud will be allowed to make an insincere 32 second apology and then be allowed to walk free?
I wonder if the agoraphobic woman who was found guilty of benefits fraud will be allowed to make an insincere 32 second apology and then be allowed to walk free? Smithy50
  • Score: 33

9:48pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Maria is innocent says...

Update . Mary Macleod Member of Parliament for MP for Chiswick, Brentford, has gone on record on BBC R4 to defend Maria. She has said that the public may not understand the facts surrounding this as they may not have been presented in the right way**. She has also said that Maria has paid the amount she owes and apologised and should therefore remain in office. Thank goodness for common sense. ** Mary has categorically stated that even though the public may not have grasped the complications of this (injustice) -My word. situation was her word I believe and I salute her restraint. Yes even though Mary Macleod Member of Parliament for MP for Chiswick Brentford has said this she has said also that the public are not stupid either and she blames the media for allowing these senseless slurs to drag on and on which seems to be putting the public into some state of temporary cognitive distortion. We agree with Mary !
https://www.facebook
.com/mariamillerisin
nocent
Update . Mary Macleod Member of Parliament for MP for Chiswick, Brentford, has gone on record on BBC R4 to defend Maria. She has said that the public may not understand the facts surrounding this as they may not have been presented in the right way**. She has also said that Maria has paid the amount she owes and apologised and should therefore remain in office. Thank goodness for common sense. ** Mary has categorically stated that even though the public may not have grasped the complications of this (injustice) -My word. situation was her word I believe and I salute her restraint. Yes even though Mary Macleod Member of Parliament for MP for Chiswick Brentford has said this she has said also that the public are not stupid either and she blames the media for allowing these senseless slurs to drag on and on which seems to be putting the public into some state of temporary cognitive distortion. We agree with Mary ! https://www.facebook .com/mariamillerisin nocent Maria is innocent
  • Score: -58

9:58pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Sam Spruce says...

When people talk about the 25% of people in this country who suffer mental health problems they are not talking about the sort of mental health problems that Maria and her cronies are suffering from. She is still claiming £975 every month for accommodation whilst supporting the lambasting of the poor and disabled. With an official salary of something over £77,000 (not including extra payments for various spurious official roles) and is looking forward to a pension most people would boggle at she still imagines the people of Basingstoke will vote for her if she makes a hollow apology in the local newspaper. Her madness extends to a transparent attempt to elicit sympathy by saying "During this time, I have been subject to an intense Parliamentary inquiry looking at extensive personal details of my family life, as a result of allegations made by a Labour MP." Talk about blaming the messenger! Although the vast majority of comments on this article are seriously negative about this woman a certain individual called NoToHareCoursing astutely noted "I see Mrs Miller as one of the more 'normal' and 'human' (as well as humane and sympathetic) members of Mr Cameron's top team. I advise her to stick it out." Well I would agree with that statement but not the conclusion. Her behaviour and Cameron's support of it, indicate the unfathomable depths of the corruption and abuse that is the Tory Party. Now that is what I call a serious mental health problem and their actions are profoundly affecting the health of this nation. Maria Miller should rightly go to jail.
When people talk about the 25% of people in this country who suffer mental health problems they are not talking about the sort of mental health problems that Maria and her cronies are suffering from. She is still claiming £975 every month for accommodation whilst supporting the lambasting of the poor and disabled. With an official salary of something over £77,000 (not including extra payments for various spurious official roles) and is looking forward to a pension most people would boggle at she still imagines the people of Basingstoke will vote for her if she makes a hollow apology in the local newspaper. Her madness extends to a transparent attempt to elicit sympathy by saying "During this time, I have been subject to an intense Parliamentary inquiry looking at extensive personal details of my family life, as a result of allegations made by a Labour MP." Talk about blaming the messenger! Although the vast majority of comments on this article are seriously negative about this woman a certain individual called NoToHareCoursing astutely noted "I see Mrs Miller as one of the more 'normal' and 'human' (as well as humane and sympathetic) members of Mr Cameron's top team. I advise her to stick it out." Well I would agree with that statement but not the conclusion. Her behaviour and Cameron's support of it, indicate the unfathomable depths of the corruption and abuse that is the Tory Party. Now that is what I call a serious mental health problem and their actions are profoundly affecting the health of this nation. Maria Miller should rightly go to jail. Sam Spruce
  • Score: 34

10:10pm Tue 8 Apr 14

DominicC says...

Change Petition
https://www.change.o
rg/en-GB/petitions/m
aria-miller-mp-eithe
r-pay-back-45-000-in
-fraudulent-expense-
claims-or-resign
Change Petition https://www.change.o rg/en-GB/petitions/m aria-miller-mp-eithe r-pay-back-45-000-in -fraudulent-expense- claims-or-resign DominicC
  • Score: 17

10:12pm Tue 8 Apr 14

PimplePettett says...

pcpmitch95 wrote:
She's only devestated because she got caught. Trotters in the trough.
If Miller is that devastated, why doesn't she show her remorse and do the decent thing for once in this messy affair and RESIGN! She has enough 'bolt holes' to retire too: town house, country pad and a rented barn conversion. All in It Together! Just saying!
[quote][p][bold]pcpmitch95[/bold] wrote: She's only devestated because she got caught. Trotters in the trough.[/p][/quote]If Miller is that devastated, why doesn't she show her remorse and do the decent thing for once in this messy affair and RESIGN! She has enough 'bolt holes' to retire too: town house, country pad and a rented barn conversion. All in It Together! Just saying! PimplePettett
  • Score: 28

10:19pm Tue 8 Apr 14

hoot_gibson says...

The stench of corruption and deceit surrounds Maria Miller .
She is such a dishonorable person to cling on to her job backed by a PM no stranger himself to expense fraud.
Basingstoke voters deserve better than her our absent MP who has used our Town just to climb the greasy pole of ambition for her own sake she cares nothing for us the voters.
She is an embarrassment and an utter disgrace.
The stench of corruption and deceit surrounds Maria Miller . She is such a dishonorable person to cling on to her job backed by a PM no stranger himself to expense fraud. Basingstoke voters deserve better than her our absent MP who has used our Town just to climb the greasy pole of ambition for her own sake she cares nothing for us the voters. She is an embarrassment and an utter disgrace. hoot_gibson
  • Score: 29

10:21pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Upontheroof says...

Well done, you've just lost the Tories Basingstoke.

Why on earth Cameron is backing you up just goes to show we're not all in this together and we, the people, are just a purse you can pillage and use at our expense.

You need to be sacked without any pay off nor pension. Close the door on your way out .....
Well done, you've just lost the Tories Basingstoke. Why on earth Cameron is backing you up just goes to show we're not all in this together and we, the people, are just a purse you can pillage and use at our expense. You need to be sacked without any pay off nor pension. Close the door on your way out ..... Upontheroof
  • Score: 36

10:28pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Basingstokelad100 says...

I am so upset by this latest non apology. She simply does not understand that she is not the victim. Its not because she is a Tory, it is not because she is overseeing press regulation, it not because she is the Labour Party are point scoring: people are angry because of her overweening sense of entitlement and double standards. She has has done incredibly out of the expenses system and, it is suggested, played the tax system. She has banked that and we will not see it again. But now she needs to understand that she is damaging her party and the government, show some humility and quit.
I am so upset by this latest non apology. She simply does not understand that she is not the victim. Its not because she is a Tory, it is not because she is overseeing press regulation, it not because she is the Labour Party are point scoring: people are angry because of her overweening sense of entitlement and double standards. She has has done incredibly out of the expenses system and, it is suggested, played the tax system. She has banked that and we will not see it again. But now she needs to understand that she is damaging her party and the government, show some humility and quit. Basingstokelad100
  • Score: 31

10:28pm Tue 8 Apr 14

MickHants says...

Any one else it is called fraud which in normal terms means arrest and charge with a court date. To an MP it means lets dig deep find something the police could have done better and blame them !! Attention away from the fact she is a liar and a cheat !
Any one else it is called fraud which in normal terms means arrest and charge with a court date. To an MP it means lets dig deep find something the police could have done better and blame them !! Attention away from the fact she is a liar and a cheat ! MickHants
  • Score: 29

10:32pm Tue 8 Apr 14

DCSharps says...

The bottom line is you lied. Not only to yourself and parliament but to us as your consituents. You cheated whilst thousands of people are having to endure the "We're in it together philosophy of your government". You should be ashamed of using public funds to further your own selfish and private means. We, the tax paying public work hard and vote for people like you to represent us. You are lower than low.
The bottom line is you lied. Not only to yourself and parliament but to us as your consituents. You cheated whilst thousands of people are having to endure the "We're in it together philosophy of your government". You should be ashamed of using public funds to further your own selfish and private means. We, the tax paying public work hard and vote for people like you to represent us. You are lower than low. DCSharps
  • Score: 33

10:34pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Jollsybottom says...

Devastated this happened - my arse.

Devastated that the public appear not to like me and the press don't appear to want to let it go.

Doesn't want to lose her job is a more likely reason for her sudden remorse.
Devastated this happened - my arse. Devastated that the public appear not to like me and the press don't appear to want to let it go. Doesn't want to lose her job is a more likely reason for her sudden remorse. Jollsybottom
  • Score: 32

10:36pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Feed The Goat says...

I am very angry with this whole situation. If she had done nothing wrong then, surely to god, she wouldn't have had to make a public apology or pay any money back at all?

I am an ex-serviceman and an ex-postman. If I had attempted to fraudulently claim any money that wasn't due to me in, my role as a government employee then; I would quite rightly have, been made to pay all of it back and no doubt faced a prison sentence as well.

I really cannot understand why Ms Miller does not 'get' the public in this regard. Her lack of remorse and understanding is truly staggering!
I am very angry with this whole situation. If she had done nothing wrong then, surely to god, she wouldn't have had to make a public apology or pay any money back at all? I am an ex-serviceman and an ex-postman. If I had attempted to fraudulently claim any money that wasn't due to me in, my role as a government employee then; I would quite rightly have, been made to pay all of it back and no doubt faced a prison sentence as well. I really cannot understand why Ms Miller does not 'get' the public in this regard. Her lack of remorse and understanding is truly staggering! Feed The Goat
  • Score: 33

10:42pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Benefit Thief says...

Don't be fooled by the "maria is Innocent" postings on this comment string.
Mary Macleod MP is Maria Millers own Parliamentary Private Secretary. The comment that she had gone on record defending the expenses cheat is just ridiculous. Mary is completely biased and very obviously trying to save her own skin amongst this mess.

GO NOW MARIA before this gets very ugly.
Don't be fooled by the "maria is Innocent" postings on this comment string. Mary Macleod MP is Maria Millers own Parliamentary Private Secretary. The comment that she had gone on record defending the expenses cheat is just ridiculous. Mary is completely biased and very obviously trying to save her own skin amongst this mess. GO NOW MARIA before this gets very ugly. Benefit Thief
  • Score: 30

10:48pm Tue 8 Apr 14

britenglish says...

Dear reader after all the fuss on a weekly basis of news that yet another MP has fallen foul of the parliamentary expenses system,no doubt there will be many more to come before the antiquated system is finally abolished.
Simply pay a fixed salary in its place which is the same for all MPs and of course will have to be raised to an adequate fixed ammount.Then there would be no more time wasting in parliament over such trivial matters.no I mean trivial when I see millions of pounds being thrown away on projects that dont benefit the people of this country at all.So lets get it in prospective can we Maria Miller has already apologised for her actions twice.
What else would the press do to keep a good story going by keep raking over the same old thing.Lets face it lads of the nationals if there were no expenses for MPs you might have to go and do a stint in Afghanistan
Dear reader after all the fuss on a weekly basis of news that yet another MP has fallen foul of the parliamentary expenses system,no doubt there will be many more to come before the antiquated system is finally abolished. Simply pay a fixed salary in its place which is the same for all MPs and of course will have to be raised to an adequate fixed ammount.Then there would be no more time wasting in parliament over such trivial matters.no I mean trivial when I see millions of pounds being thrown away on projects that dont benefit the people of this country at all.So lets get it in prospective can we Maria Miller has already apologised for her actions twice. What else would the press do to keep a good story going by keep raking over the same old thing.Lets face it lads of the nationals if there were no expenses for MPs you might have to go and do a stint in Afghanistan britenglish
  • Score: -18

11:11pm Tue 8 Apr 14

The People must be Heard says...

Sorry.... Seems to be the hardest word....

What is amazing is how out of touch she is and others who are supporting her from the general feeling of the public who they are supposed to be serving.

She, and they are treating us as idiots who they don't understand these "complex" issues.

I also love that the plan to introduce a system of recall of MP's is now being seen as a liability. "We the public cannot be trusted" we hear today. We the taxpayers can actually have feelings of legitimate annoyance such that we would like the opportunity of account when we the public feel it appropriate.

If our employers felt that they wanted to hold us to account of actions that were not appropriate, there are mechanisms to make that happen immediately.

Why can't the public be trusted to hold our tax funded employees to account when we feel we want.... this seems as good a time as any to test our competence.
Sorry.... Seems to be the hardest word.... What is amazing is how out of touch she is and others who are supporting her from the general feeling of the public who they are supposed to be serving. She, and they are treating us as idiots who they don't understand these "complex" issues. I also love that the plan to introduce a system of recall of MP's is now being seen as a liability. "We the public cannot be trusted" we hear today. We the taxpayers can actually have feelings of legitimate annoyance such that we would like the opportunity of account when we the public feel it appropriate. If our employers felt that they wanted to hold us to account of actions that were not appropriate, there are mechanisms to make that happen immediately. Why can't the public be trusted to hold our tax funded employees to account when we feel we want.... this seems as good a time as any to test our competence. The People must be Heard
  • Score: 31

11:26pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Grumpy Pants says...

Mrs Miller, please, please, please, PLEASE would you just resign. We've had enough of your "devastation" and your wringing of hands. You have treated us all with contempt. You haven't let US down, dear. You claimed almost every single penny you could in "expenses". Regardless of the rules at the time, there were MPs who claimed little or nothing. You treated the authorities with arrogance and contempt. You have merely shown that you have no decency, no honour, no shame, and no sense of reality or proportion. So ... please resign and go live in your lovely little barn. You have enriched yourself at public expense. We, the ordinary people of England, are sick and tired of this.
Mrs Miller, please, please, please, PLEASE would you just resign. We've had enough of your "devastation" and your wringing of hands. You have treated us all with contempt. You haven't let US down, dear. You claimed almost every single penny you could in "expenses". Regardless of the rules at the time, there were MPs who claimed little or nothing. You treated the authorities with arrogance and contempt. You have merely shown that you have no decency, no honour, no shame, and no sense of reality or proportion. So ... please resign and go live in your lovely little barn. You have enriched yourself at public expense. We, the ordinary people of England, are sick and tired of this. Grumpy Pants
  • Score: 35

1:07am Wed 9 Apr 14

Chazza65 says...

Let her know what you think!
maria.miller.mp@parl
iament.uk
020 7219 5749
020 7211 6000
Let her know what you think! maria.miller.mp@parl iament.uk 020 7219 5749 020 7211 6000 Chazza65
  • Score: 17

1:15am Wed 9 Apr 14

652AAC says...

Even if Maria Miller is pushed/resigns from her cabinet position, the Tory half of this government cannot afford a by-election. It is fair to say that Maria Miller will continue to represent our interests until the general election in 2015. So the question is, does the local Conservative Club have ****s to deselect her or will they just carry on doing whatever central office dictates.

Historicaly speaking, whether we like it or not, Basingstoke has been a 'blue' town and if Maria Miller stands for re-election in 2015, it will remain a 'blue' town although with a reduced majority. So the local Conservative Club have to decide just how many votes do they want to drive across to the Nigel Farrrrrage (formerly known as UKIP) Party.

Maria Miller - time to write your book.
Even if Maria Miller is pushed/resigns from her cabinet position, the Tory half of this government cannot afford a by-election. It is fair to say that Maria Miller will continue to represent our interests until the general election in 2015. So the question is, does the local Conservative Club have ****s to deselect her or will they just carry on doing whatever central office dictates. Historicaly speaking, whether we like it or not, Basingstoke has been a 'blue' town and if Maria Miller stands for re-election in 2015, it will remain a 'blue' town although with a reduced majority. So the local Conservative Club have to decide just how many votes do they want to drive across to the Nigel Farrrrrage (formerly known as UKIP) Party. Maria Miller - time to write your book. 652AAC
  • Score: 12

1:23am Wed 9 Apr 14

basingstoke2 says...

Sadly, she shows traits of a psychopath. Charming outside, but ruthlessly self serving. No empathy. No genuine remorse.
She should be sacked, not allowed to resign which would entitle her to more taxpayer money.
She has conned Basingstoke, and the nation.
Sack her. Prosecute her and her husband. They can put their case in court to be found innocent or guilty, like any taxpayer.
Sadly, she shows traits of a psychopath. Charming outside, but ruthlessly self serving. No empathy. No genuine remorse. She should be sacked, not allowed to resign which would entitle her to more taxpayer money. She has conned Basingstoke, and the nation. Sack her. Prosecute her and her husband. They can put their case in court to be found innocent or guilty, like any taxpayer. basingstoke2
  • Score: 21

2:58am Wed 9 Apr 14

karlmarx says...

652AAC wrote:
Even if Maria Miller is pushed/resigns from her cabinet position, the Tory half of this government cannot afford a by-election. It is fair to say that Maria Miller will continue to represent our interests until the general election in 2015. So the question is, does the local Conservative Club have ****s to deselect her or will they just carry on doing whatever central office dictates.

Historicaly speaking, whether we like it or not, Basingstoke has been a 'blue' town and if Maria Miller stands for re-election in 2015, it will remain a 'blue' town although with a reduced majority. So the local Conservative Club have to decide just how many votes do they want to drive across to the Nigel Farrrrrage (formerly known as UKIP) Party.

Maria Miller - time to write your book.
"represent our interests?"

I think you will find that she has been representing HER interests, more fool you for voting for her.
[quote][p][bold]652AAC[/bold] wrote: Even if Maria Miller is pushed/resigns from her cabinet position, the Tory half of this government cannot afford a by-election. It is fair to say that Maria Miller will continue to represent our interests until the general election in 2015. So the question is, does the local Conservative Club have ****s to deselect her or will they just carry on doing whatever central office dictates. Historicaly speaking, whether we like it or not, Basingstoke has been a 'blue' town and if Maria Miller stands for re-election in 2015, it will remain a 'blue' town although with a reduced majority. So the local Conservative Club have to decide just how many votes do they want to drive across to the Nigel Farrrrrage (formerly known as UKIP) Party. Maria Miller - time to write your book.[/p][/quote]"represent our interests?" I think you will find that she has been representing HER interests, more fool you for voting for her. karlmarx
  • Score: 23

7:22am Wed 9 Apr 14

ThomasFairfax says...

This woman was originally ordered, by the "independent" Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, to pay back a total sum of £45,000.The Parliamentary Commissioner, can of course be over ruled by MP's should they consider the Commissioners findings or decisions to be in error or too harsh or as in this case, likely to be "difficult" for them personally, the next time that they themselves are again caught with their own fingers in the till .
Consequently, ranks are closed as some members, under the guise of the all party "Standards Committee" rush to the defence of Miller and reduce her "pay back punishment" from the recommended £45,000,to a mere £5,800. This figure is of course set against an original £90,000 wrongly claimed mortgage expenses which the Culture Secretary had submitted for property designated as her second home and where her parents lived.
There are those who may consider that even a sum of £45,000 is too small a "punishment" for expense claim abuse, albeit that the Standards Committee cleared her of fiddling her expenses, commenting that "the judgement was finely balanced and considered she had acted reasonably in the light of the guidance available at the time”.
In response to a damning report which accused her of trying to thwart an investigation into her parliamentary expenses claims, Miller offered an apology to the House. It seems that every memo, request for information, question, or any other form of communication that Miller received from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, was immediately sent to her solicitors for consideration, response and inevitable delay.
Her apology for her delaying tactics can at best be described as succinct, and dismissing in less than 40 seconds, the original allegations of expense irregularities, and then in acknowledging the role of the Standards Committee in her "acquittal" states that she "accepts the recommendations of the committee" and thanks them "for bringing this matter to an end".
Her whole demeanor during this "statement" particularly toward Labour MP John Mann who made the initial complaint about her claims, was one of defiance, and it seemed, indignation that she should have even been put in the situation of having to explain her actions in the first place.
It has been suggested that Miller only retains her role in cabinet because she is a woman and Cameron needs to at least be seen to be trying to maintain a gender balance around the table.
Perhaps it would be more accurate to suggest that Cameron prefers to surround himself and fill his cabinet, with arrogant people, people dismissive of any criticism, prepared to operate at the margins of proper behaviour and who show nothing but contempt for the people of this country, the tax payers, any form of regulatory body (especially when it comes to their own activities and expenses) and people without shame or principle.
Miller is only trying to fill that model.
This woman was originally ordered, by the "independent" Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, to pay back a total sum of £45,000.The Parliamentary Commissioner, can of course be over ruled by MP's should they consider the Commissioners findings or decisions to be in error or too harsh or as in this case, likely to be "difficult" for them personally, the next time that they themselves are again caught with their own fingers in the till . Consequently, ranks are closed as some members, under the guise of the all party "Standards Committee" rush to the defence of Miller and reduce her "pay back punishment" from the recommended £45,000,to a mere £5,800. This figure is of course set against an original £90,000 wrongly claimed mortgage expenses which the Culture Secretary had submitted for property designated as her second home and where her parents lived. There are those who may consider that even a sum of £45,000 is too small a "punishment" for expense claim abuse, albeit that the Standards Committee cleared her of fiddling her expenses, commenting that "the judgement was finely balanced and considered she had acted reasonably in the light of the guidance available at the time”. In response to a damning report which accused her of trying to thwart an investigation into her parliamentary expenses claims, Miller offered an apology to the House. It seems that every memo, request for information, question, or any other form of communication that Miller received from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, was immediately sent to her solicitors for consideration, response and inevitable delay. Her apology for her delaying tactics can at best be described as succinct, and dismissing in less than 40 seconds, the original allegations of expense irregularities, and then in acknowledging the role of the Standards Committee in her "acquittal" states that she "accepts the recommendations of the committee" and thanks them "for bringing this matter to an end". Her whole demeanor during this "statement" particularly toward Labour MP John Mann who made the initial complaint about her claims, was one of defiance, and it seemed, indignation that she should have even been put in the situation of having to explain her actions in the first place. It has been suggested that Miller only retains her role in cabinet because she is a woman and Cameron needs to at least be seen to be trying to maintain a gender balance around the table. Perhaps it would be more accurate to suggest that Cameron prefers to surround himself and fill his cabinet, with arrogant people, people dismissive of any criticism, prepared to operate at the margins of proper behaviour and who show nothing but contempt for the people of this country, the tax payers, any form of regulatory body (especially when it comes to their own activities and expenses) and people without shame or principle. Miller is only trying to fill that model. ThomasFairfax
  • Score: 15

7:23am Wed 9 Apr 14

jonone says...

Just reported on BBC News, she has resigned as Culture Secretary. I hope this extends to her position as MP too.
Just reported on BBC News, she has resigned as Culture Secretary. I hope this extends to her position as MP too. jonone
  • Score: 18

7:25am Wed 9 Apr 14

Opinions_opinions says...

Great news at 07:22 this morning .... Maria Miller has resigned !!! I hope this also means she will stand down as MP for Basingstoke, but I very much doubt it. That will be for the voters in the next election to take care of. All she has to do now is make a real apology and pay back the full £45K and we can wave a long a happy goodbye to the woman who took Basingstoke for a ride for so long. Goodbye Maria Miller, you won't be missed.
Great news at 07:22 this morning .... Maria Miller has resigned !!! I hope this also means she will stand down as MP for Basingstoke, but I very much doubt it. That will be for the voters in the next election to take care of. All she has to do now is make a real apology and pay back the full £45K and we can wave a long a happy goodbye to the woman who took Basingstoke for a ride for so long. Goodbye Maria Miller, you won't be missed. Opinions_opinions
  • Score: 19

7:33am Wed 9 Apr 14

Upontheroof says...

Hopefully she has resigned from both positions AND without a nice little pay off!
Hopefully she has resigned from both positions AND without a nice little pay off! Upontheroof
  • Score: 16

7:37am Wed 9 Apr 14

popleyrebel2 says...

Miller resigns her ministerial role, sadly however we still have her as our MP.
Miller resigns her ministerial role, sadly however we still have her as our MP. popleyrebel2
  • Score: 19

7:38am Wed 9 Apr 14

jonone says...

Opinions_opinions wrote:
Great news at 07:22 this morning .... Maria Miller has resigned !!! I hope this also means she will stand down as MP for Basingstoke, but I very much doubt it. That will be for the voters in the next election to take care of. All she has to do now is make a real apology and pay back the full £45K and we can wave a long a happy goodbye to the woman who took Basingstoke for a ride for so long. Goodbye Maria Miller, you won't be missed.
Thus far all my efforts to communicate to the Conservatives that I will not vote for them if she is still MP have gone unacknowledged and unanswered.

Will have to spoil my ballot paper in 2015 due to lack of alternatives.
[quote][p][bold]Opinions_opinions[/bold] wrote: Great news at 07:22 this morning .... Maria Miller has resigned !!! I hope this also means she will stand down as MP for Basingstoke, but I very much doubt it. That will be for the voters in the next election to take care of. All she has to do now is make a real apology and pay back the full £45K and we can wave a long a happy goodbye to the woman who took Basingstoke for a ride for so long. Goodbye Maria Miller, you won't be missed.[/p][/quote]Thus far all my efforts to communicate to the Conservatives that I will not vote for them if she is still MP have gone unacknowledged and unanswered. Will have to spoil my ballot paper in 2015 due to lack of alternatives. jonone
  • Score: 7

7:42am Wed 9 Apr 14

angryhardworkingman says...

Yay she has resigned. Pity she didnt resign as an MP. Lets hope she is deselected. What a great day for democracy, the people and The Telegraph.
Yay she has resigned. Pity she didnt resign as an MP. Lets hope she is deselected. What a great day for democracy, the people and The Telegraph. angryhardworkingman
  • Score: 17

9:09am Wed 9 Apr 14

bernard bof says...

Good, that's step one, now hopefully she'll be deselected as Tory MP for Basingstoke and we'll get someone local who cares, not a Tory party yes person from London.
Good, that's step one, now hopefully she'll be deselected as Tory MP for Basingstoke and we'll get someone local who cares, not a Tory party yes person from London. bernard bof
  • Score: 13

9:09am Wed 9 Apr 14

keepiru says...

Too little, too late. See you at the ballot box.
Too little, too late. See you at the ballot box. keepiru
  • Score: 14

10:59am Wed 9 Apr 14

The People must be Heard says...

It seems like there is a Government E-petition to recall MP's submitted by an MP...

http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/56449

Happy Signing!
It seems like there is a Government E-petition to recall MP's submitted by an MP... http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/56449 Happy Signing! The People must be Heard
  • Score: 6

11:00am Wed 9 Apr 14

spikemike says...

Does nobody proof read these online reports..!!

i would have thought that this is going to be one of the biggest hits of the day..Come on Gazette... report shows shocking spelling mistakes..!!
BAD..!!

Michael
Does nobody proof read these online reports..!! i would have thought that this is going to be one of the biggest hits of the day..Come on Gazette... report shows shocking spelling mistakes..!! BAD..!! Michael spikemike
  • Score: 3

11:29am Wed 9 Apr 14

qman9000 says...

What is a 'Disgrace' is that Maria is a) Still a MP, and b) Not been arrested for fraud.
"Oh I forgot that interest rates had changed". I bet she didn't forget to pocket the £1 million profit on the sale of the second house. Ooops! Sorry the main residence; her "Second" house is here in Basingstoke, where she's supposed to be our MP. It would be a good experience for her to commute daily by either Train, or Car (at her own expense like every other Worker) to her Workplace.
No sympathy for her, or ANY of her supporters. Get rid; roll on 2015 I say.
Ooops! I forgot you could put a Monkey in a suit with a Blue rosette up for election in Basingstoke; and it would still get elected.
What is a 'Disgrace' is that Maria is a) Still a MP, and b) Not been arrested for fraud. "Oh I forgot that interest rates had changed". I bet she didn't forget to pocket the £1 million profit on the sale of the second house. Ooops! Sorry the main residence; her "Second" house is here in Basingstoke, where she's supposed to be our MP. It would be a good experience for her to commute daily by either Train, or Car (at her own expense like every other Worker) to her Workplace. No sympathy for her, or ANY of her supporters. Get rid; roll on 2015 I say. Ooops! I forgot you could put a Monkey in a suit with a Blue rosette up for election in Basingstoke; and it would still get elected. qman9000
  • Score: 10

1:01pm Wed 9 Apr 14

trickymicky1 says...

She can still 'trouser' over £33, 841 in 'legal' 'severence' pay!
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John Mann calls for Maria Miller to forego lucrative severance pay
April 9, 2014 12:33 pm

ExpensesJohn Mann Maria Miller ministerial severance pay

Labour MP John Mann has called for Maria Miller to reject her ministerial severance packet, following her resignation from the Cabinet this morning. Mann, who made the original complaint against Miller, said:

“In light of Maria Miller’s conduct, it would now be inappropriate for her to claim severance pay following her resignation. For her to accept a pay-off would be a further insult to the taxpayer.”

Miller is entitled to a pay-off, normally worth three months of the £134,565 ministerial salary – around £33,000.

Mann used the opportunity to reaffirm his support for scrapping the severance pay for ministers entirely, saying:

“In February I tabled an Early Day Motion in Parliament calling for Ministers’ severance packages to be scrapped. It is a ridiculous and outdated practice to pay off Ministers when they return to the backbenches.”

“I am also repeating my call for Ministers’ severance pay to be scrapped, and hope that more MPs will support my resolution.”

Resigning for a scandal involving taxpayers’ money and then walking away with tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers’ wouldn’t look great…
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SHE won't be 'walking' away with TENS of THOUSANDS of pounds of taxpayers money in 'severence' pay.................
..........she'll be SPRINTING away, laughing all the way to the bank, with the taxpayers 'free gift' for her being an absolute FAILURE!

Who said 'crime' didn't pay?

NOT Miller's lawyer husband, that's for sure!
She can still 'trouser' over £33, 841 in 'legal' 'severence' pay! -------------------- ------------------- John Mann calls for Maria Miller to forego lucrative severance pay April 9, 2014 12:33 pm ExpensesJohn Mann Maria Miller ministerial severance pay Labour MP John Mann has called for Maria Miller to reject her ministerial severance packet, following her resignation from the Cabinet this morning. Mann, who made the original complaint against Miller, said: “In light of Maria Miller’s conduct, it would now be inappropriate for her to claim severance pay following her resignation. For her to accept a pay-off would be a further insult to the taxpayer.” Miller is entitled to a pay-off, normally worth three months of the £134,565 ministerial salary – around £33,000. Mann used the opportunity to reaffirm his support for scrapping the severance pay for ministers entirely, saying: “In February I tabled an Early Day Motion in Parliament calling for Ministers’ severance packages to be scrapped. It is a ridiculous and outdated practice to pay off Ministers when they return to the backbenches.” “I am also repeating my call for Ministers’ severance pay to be scrapped, and hope that more MPs will support my resolution.” Resigning for a scandal involving taxpayers’ money and then walking away with tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers’ wouldn’t look great… -------------------- -------------------- - SHE won't be 'walking' away with TENS of THOUSANDS of pounds of taxpayers money in 'severence' pay................. ..........she'll be SPRINTING away, laughing all the way to the bank, with the taxpayers 'free gift' for her being an absolute FAILURE! Who said 'crime' didn't pay? NOT Miller's lawyer husband, that's for sure! trickymicky1
  • Score: 15

2:30pm Wed 9 Apr 14

jackwridge says...

Conservatives have lost my vote - vote UKIP they have a local candidate that actually lives and works for Basingstoke! Not seen anything from the Conservitives campaigning locally for 3 years and I do not agree with the Lib/Lab Pro EU stance... clearly they are out of touch and become arrogant, complacent and corrupt in their ''safe seat'' come on people vote for the party which has had no involvement in these expenses scandals!
Conservatives have lost my vote - vote UKIP they have a local candidate that actually lives and works for Basingstoke! Not seen anything from the Conservitives campaigning locally for 3 years and I do not agree with the Lib/Lab Pro EU stance... clearly they are out of touch and become arrogant, complacent and corrupt in their ''safe seat'' come on people vote for the party which has had no involvement in these expenses scandals! jackwridge
  • Score: 10

5:01pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sam_Walker123456 says...

Maria is innocent wrote:
Maria Miller MP needs our support. This must be a truly difficult time for her and messages of goodwill would be appreciated by all people who feel isolated and afraid to speak out in defence of this remarkable member of parliament. Forcing Maria to make these apologies is nothing less bullying in the workplace. Please join our campaign to support Maria
https://www.facebook

.com/mariamillerisin

nocent
What a great spoof. I wonder how many of the people who gave negative votes actually visited the Mariamillerisinnocen
t site and did not realise it was a send up in the best of British tradition?
[quote][p][bold]Maria is innocent[/bold] wrote: Maria Miller MP needs our support. This must be a truly difficult time for her and messages of goodwill would be appreciated by all people who feel isolated and afraid to speak out in defence of this remarkable member of parliament. Forcing Maria to make these apologies is nothing less bullying in the workplace. Please join our campaign to support Maria https://www.facebook .com/mariamillerisin nocent[/p][/quote]What a great spoof. I wonder how many of the people who gave negative votes actually visited the Mariamillerisinnocen t site and did not realise it was a send up in the best of British tradition? Sam_Walker123456
  • Score: 23

5:50pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Angry of Basingstoke says...

Resigned Cabinet Post Only. And yet don't you get the feeling that she believes if she sits quietly in the wings David Cameron will come charging over the hill and give her another position, scarily he might?!
I truly hope not.
Basingstoke we have to get a new MP and soon. If not, we are letting the rest of the country down by not making sure this will not happen again…. because if Maria Miller is given a chance it will happen all over again.
A New MP for Basingstoke Please!!
Resigned Cabinet Post Only. And yet don't you get the feeling that she believes if she sits quietly in the wings David Cameron will come charging over the hill and give her another position, scarily he might?! I truly hope not. Basingstoke we have to get a new MP and soon. If not, we are letting the rest of the country down by not making sure this will not happen again…. because if Maria Miller is given a chance it will happen all over again. A New MP for Basingstoke Please!! Angry of Basingstoke
  • Score: 11

8:30am Thu 10 Apr 14

Cromwell45 says...

I understand Maria Miller is giving some £17,000 to a local charity. Is this contrition or a bribe to win over the electorate? If it a bribe, which with her record of deceit, seems more likely, I hope the good people of Basingstoke will not be swayed. Rotten boroughs were done away with in the 1832 Reform Act.
Many of these politicians, it seems, should have no place in our parliamentary system. It is now becoming seriously essential for the electorate to vote on May 22nd. You don't have to vote for any of the three main parties. But there is somewhere to put your cross which is becoming ever more important and respectable. Everyone must vote. Please do. It is essential if we are to maintain what's left of our democracy.
I understand Maria Miller is giving some £17,000 to a local charity. Is this contrition or a bribe to win over the electorate? If it a bribe, which with her record of deceit, seems more likely, I hope the good people of Basingstoke will not be swayed. Rotten boroughs were done away with in the 1832 Reform Act. Many of these politicians, it seems, should have no place in our parliamentary system. It is now becoming seriously essential for the electorate to vote on May 22nd. You don't have to vote for any of the three main parties. But there is somewhere to put your cross which is becoming ever more important and respectable. Everyone must vote. Please do. It is essential if we are to maintain what's left of our democracy. Cromwell45
  • Score: 4

10:15am Thu 10 Apr 14

GDNeil says...

Its quite simple really. The allegations are serious, the tame parliamentary inquiry was obstructed by Miller, therefore the Fraud Squad should be investigating this matter.
Its quite simple really. The allegations are serious, the tame parliamentary inquiry was obstructed by Miller, therefore the Fraud Squad should be investigating this matter. GDNeil
  • Score: 7

1:56pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Maria is innocent says...

Maria will be able to target that 17,000 with accuracy because she has been part of the driving force behind the increased demand for charities. The amalgomy of Esther Mcvey Ian Duncan Smith has been truly remarkable in getting people off of benefits and allowing them to experience life by finding their own resources regardless of sensory/cognitive impairments or physical disabilities. I am sure this has been a life enhancing experience for many of them. Most people associate Maria for her work at Culture and Sports. We will always remember her (et al) for her outstanding achievements for working alongside the DWP and dept of employment in a seamless clinical (excuse the pun) because Maria was responsible for Atos and Capita being involved in PIP assessments and this will save the country lots and lots of money.. https://www.facebook
.com/mariamillerisin
nocent?ref=hl
Maria will be able to target that 17,000 with accuracy because she has been part of the driving force behind the increased demand for charities. The amalgomy of Esther Mcvey Ian Duncan Smith has been truly remarkable in getting people off of benefits and allowing them to experience life by finding their own resources regardless of sensory/cognitive impairments or physical disabilities. I am sure this has been a life enhancing experience for many of them. Most people associate Maria for her work at Culture and Sports. We will always remember her (et al) for her outstanding achievements for working alongside the DWP and dept of employment in a seamless clinical (excuse the pun) because Maria was responsible for Atos and Capita being involved in PIP assessments and this will save the country lots and lots of money.. https://www.facebook .com/mariamillerisin nocent?ref=hl Maria is innocent
  • Score: 8

8:58pm Thu 10 Apr 14

TonyConrad says...

I for one will never vote for her again. I feel bitterly let down by her even before this expenses fiasco but that might be on a personal level. I do agree with the sentiment of having a productive people but since Cameron came to power there has been a moral slip to add and Maria Miller only represents a part of that. There are others within the party of the same ilk. The national damage done by the current conservative party is of a far more profound order. The weird thing is that they don't even see it and that is what makes it far more dangerous to society.
I for one will never vote for her again. I feel bitterly let down by her even before this expenses fiasco but that might be on a personal level. I do agree with the sentiment of having a productive people but since Cameron came to power there has been a moral slip to add and Maria Miller only represents a part of that. There are others within the party of the same ilk. The national damage done by the current conservative party is of a far more profound order. The weird thing is that they don't even see it and that is what makes it far more dangerous to society. TonyConrad
  • Score: 3

3:03pm Mon 14 Apr 14

toryfodder says...

This is just another example of the Tory ruling ethos; they can do anything they like and us plebs have to accept it. Any ordinary person would have been jailed for fraud & theft. Millar has to go, she's a disgrace. The only good thing is that she typifies the tories & hopefully the electorate will emerge from it's apathy and send these "out of touch" toffs to the sidelines where they deserve to be. Wake up Britain, Tories Out !!!!
This is just another example of the Tory ruling ethos; they can do anything they like and us plebs have to accept it. Any ordinary person would have been jailed for fraud & theft. Millar has to go, she's a disgrace. The only good thing is that she typifies the tories & hopefully the electorate will emerge from it's apathy and send these "out of touch" toffs to the sidelines where they deserve to be. Wake up Britain, Tories Out !!!! toryfodder
  • Score: -4

4:44pm Mon 14 Apr 14

robertspet8 says...

toryfodder wrote:
This is just another example of the Tory ruling ethos; they can do anything they like and us plebs have to accept it. Any ordinary person would have been jailed for fraud & theft. Millar has to go, she's a disgrace. The only good thing is that she typifies the tories & hopefully the electorate will emerge from it's apathy and send these "out of touch" toffs to the sidelines where they deserve to be. Wake up Britain, Tories Out !!!!
I do hope you are not calling me a pleb, toryfodder. I do not like to think of myself as one of the common herd when I am looking out on the many acres which surround my second home.
[quote][p][bold]toryfodder[/bold] wrote: This is just another example of the Tory ruling ethos; they can do anything they like and us plebs have to accept it. Any ordinary person would have been jailed for fraud & theft. Millar has to go, she's a disgrace. The only good thing is that she typifies the tories & hopefully the electorate will emerge from it's apathy and send these "out of touch" toffs to the sidelines where they deserve to be. Wake up Britain, Tories Out !!!![/p][/quote]I do hope you are not calling me a pleb, toryfodder. I do not like to think of myself as one of the common herd when I am looking out on the many acres which surround my second home. robertspet8
  • Score: 8

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