Basingstoke MP Maria Miller to be criticised for expense claims on second home

Basingstoke Gazette: Basingstoke MP Maria Miller to be criticised for expense claims on second home Basingstoke MP Maria Miller to be criticised for expense claims on second home

BASINGSTOKE MP Maria Miller is to be criticised for her expense claims on a second home following an investigation, according to reports in the national media.

The Mail on Sunday reported yesterday that Mrs Miller’s political future is in doubt after watchdogs found fault with the culture secretary’s £90,000 claims on a second home.

The newspaper reported that Mrs Miller will be criticised by parliamentary standards officials over claiming the taxpayer-funded allowances on a home where her parents also lived.

An investigation was conducted by Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, Kathryn Hudson, after Mrs Miller claimed expenses for a second home in Wimbledon between 2005 and 2009.

The Mail on Sunday said it understands that the Commons’ Standards Committee, which rules on MPs’ conduct, has been advised that for at least part of the four years, Mrs Miller should not have claimed second-home costs for her Wimbledon home.

The report prepared by Ms Hudson is said to conclude that Mrs Miller should have nominated her rented Basingstoke home as her second home.

The investigation into the Mrs Miller's claims of £90,718 for her second home was launched in December 2012 by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, after the office received a complaint from Bassetlaw Labour MP, John Mann.

The complaint from Mr Mann was made a day after a report in The Daily Telegraph on December 11, 2012 detailing Mrs Miller’s expenses claims for mortgage interest payments, utilities and council tax.

The article claimed that having her parents live with her had put Mrs Miller at “odds with parliamentary rules”.

It added that the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner had ruled that second homes must be used “exclusively” by MPs fulfilling their parliamentary duty.

Mr Mann likened Mrs Miller’s second home claims to the former Labour minister Tony McNulty, who was ordered to pay back more than £13,000 of expenses claimed for a second home occupied by his parents in 2009.

However, there has been nothing to suggest that Mrs Miller will have to pay back her claims.

Mrs Miller has always maintained that her claims are “absolutely in order” and “in complete accordance with the rules.”

In a statement previously sent to The Gazette, she said: “For a considerable time before I entered politics, my parents have lived with me, my husband and our children as part of the family. I have always been open about these arrangements.”

The House of Commons Standards Committee will discuss the content of the report later this month and decide what action to take.

Mrs Miller has so far declined to comment.

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10:31am Mon 17 Feb 14

ChinehamIan says...

Bye bye Maria, not long to go now.
Bye bye Maria, not long to go now. ChinehamIan
  • Score: 13

10:44am Mon 17 Feb 14

Town Guard says...

Mrs Miller brought the house in London for £234,000 in January 1996. Fact. She had a well paid job as did her husband who is a partner in in a City Law Firm. Her parents sold their house in moved in with them in December 2006 - yet amazingly when she became an MP she started to claim £1439 a month of interest repayments on her mortgage. By 2008, 12 years after she had brought the house, the mortgage was a whopping £575,000 and she was claiming £2700 a month in interest on her mortage which was now 2 and a half times bigger than when she brought the house and twice as big as when she becmae an MP. Her parents live in the house in London, her husband works in London, she works in parliament, in London, her parents look after her children , so presumably the childlren go to school in London, she has a mortgage on the house and yet she thinks of it as her second homes as her main home is the one she rents in Basingstoke. None of this she denies, just that it was approved by the same people who approved duck houses on expenses. Well thats ok then.
Mrs Miller brought the house in London for £234,000 in January 1996. Fact. She had a well paid job as did her husband who is a partner in in a City Law Firm. Her parents sold their house in moved in with them in December 2006 - yet amazingly when she became an MP she started to claim £1439 a month of interest repayments on her mortgage. By 2008, 12 years after she had brought the house, the mortgage was a whopping £575,000 and she was claiming £2700 a month in interest on her mortage which was now 2 and a half times bigger than when she brought the house and twice as big as when she becmae an MP. Her parents live in the house in London, her husband works in London, she works in parliament, in London, her parents look after her children , so presumably the childlren go to school in London, she has a mortgage on the house and yet she thinks of it as her second homes as her main home is the one she rents in Basingstoke. None of this she denies, just that it was approved by the same people who approved duck houses on expenses. Well thats ok then. Town Guard
  • Score: 31

10:57am Mon 17 Feb 14

deepinsight says...

Criticised eh? What 'punishments' these MPs have to suffer......
Criticised eh? What 'punishments' these MPs have to suffer...... deepinsight
  • Score: 19

12:13pm Mon 17 Feb 14

jonone says...

ChinehamIan wrote:
Bye bye Maria, not long to go now.
Here's hoping....
[quote][p][bold]ChinehamIan[/bold] wrote: Bye bye Maria, not long to go now.[/p][/quote]Here's hoping.... jonone
  • Score: 19

12:15pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Sensory says...

So not only does she want us to pay for her houses, but it appears she wants to make it as difficult as possible for us to buy our own.

"MP Maria Miller urges housing chiefs to cut the number of new homes"
http://www.basingsto
kegazette.co.uk/news
/9962727.print/

Still, I'm sure that strangling supply can only help her investments. Why go into politics if you can't benefit?
So not only does she want us to pay for her houses, but it appears she wants to make it as difficult as possible for us to buy our own. "MP Maria Miller urges housing chiefs to cut the number of new homes" http://www.basingsto kegazette.co.uk/news /9962727.print/ Still, I'm sure that strangling supply can only help her investments. Why go into politics if you can't benefit? Sensory
  • Score: 15

12:35pm Mon 17 Feb 14

alan partridge says...

Aha!

Sack her.

Crap at her job, selfish, greedy and only interested in herself.
Aha! Sack her. Crap at her job, selfish, greedy and only interested in herself. alan partridge
  • Score: 25

1:39pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Buster Preciation says...

alan partridge wrote:
Aha!

Sack her.

Crap at her job, selfish, greedy and only interested in herself.
I'm not sure MPs can be 'sacked' in the sense of employment law. However I think her party may realise that these disclosures will affect her share of the vote in the next election and replace her. If history is to repeat itself (and I'm talking about both main parties here) she'll find herself in a nice comfy seat in the House of Lords or Brussels. Congratulations Maria.
[quote][p][bold]alan partridge[/bold] wrote: Aha! Sack her. Crap at her job, selfish, greedy and only interested in herself.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure MPs can be 'sacked' in the sense of employment law. However I think her party may realise that these disclosures will affect her share of the vote in the next election and replace her. If history is to repeat itself (and I'm talking about both main parties here) she'll find herself in a nice comfy seat in the House of Lords or Brussels. Congratulations Maria. Buster Preciation
  • Score: 9

2:36pm Mon 17 Feb 14

The Champion says...

The sentence for £100.000 benefit fraud (tax payers money) is three years whereas she she gets 'criticised' for falsely claiming £90,000 of tax payers money............?

https://www.cps.gov.
uk/legal/s_to_u/sent
encing_manual/obtain
ing_benefit_fraud/
The sentence for £100.000 benefit fraud (tax payers money) is three years whereas she she gets 'criticised' for falsely claiming £90,000 of tax payers money............? https://www.cps.gov. uk/legal/s_to_u/sent encing_manual/obtain ing_benefit_fraud/ The Champion
  • Score: 18

4:13pm Mon 17 Feb 14

popleyrebel2 says...

Before her promotion to Secretary of State Maria Miller was one of the Ministers working alongside Ian Duncan Smith (work and Pensions) and played an integral role in this Governments welfare reforms that has driven people below the poverty line furthermore, she introduced cuts that had a devastating effect on the disabled therefore there should be no sympathy for this heartless, conniving MP.
The Gazette must grow some balls and challenge her and not just be statement provider.
Before her promotion to Secretary of State Maria Miller was one of the Ministers working alongside Ian Duncan Smith (work and Pensions) and played an integral role in this Governments welfare reforms that has driven people below the poverty line furthermore, she introduced cuts that had a devastating effect on the disabled therefore there should be no sympathy for this heartless, conniving MP. The Gazette must grow some balls and challenge her and not just be statement provider. popleyrebel2
  • Score: 24

6:10pm Mon 17 Feb 14

ParanoidAndroid says...

Buster Preciation wrote:
alan partridge wrote:
Aha!

Sack her.

Crap at her job, selfish, greedy and only interested in herself.
I'm not sure MPs can be 'sacked' in the sense of employment law. However I think her party may realise that these disclosures will affect her share of the vote in the next election and replace her. If history is to repeat itself (and I'm talking about both main parties here) she'll find herself in a nice comfy seat in the House of Lords or Brussels. Congratulations Maria.
In the collaboration agreement the Conservative and Liberal Democrats Party said they would introduce legislation to allow voters to remove their MP. I read recently that this policy has been dropped. Did anyone expect MPs to approve legislation which would allow them to lose a 5-year contract job on £60k+ per year? It seems that there is no way of getting rid of an MP, unless he/she gets sent to prison.
[quote][p][bold]Buster Preciation[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alan partridge[/bold] wrote: Aha! Sack her. Crap at her job, selfish, greedy and only interested in herself.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure MPs can be 'sacked' in the sense of employment law. However I think her party may realise that these disclosures will affect her share of the vote in the next election and replace her. If history is to repeat itself (and I'm talking about both main parties here) she'll find herself in a nice comfy seat in the House of Lords or Brussels. Congratulations Maria.[/p][/quote]In the collaboration agreement the Conservative and Liberal Democrats Party said they would introduce legislation to allow voters to remove their MP. I read recently that this policy has been dropped. Did anyone expect MPs to approve legislation which would allow them to lose a 5-year contract job on £60k+ per year? It seems that there is no way of getting rid of an MP, unless he/she gets sent to prison. ParanoidAndroid
  • Score: 5

8:21am Tue 18 Feb 14

jonone says...

popleyrebel2 wrote:
Before her promotion to Secretary of State Maria Miller was one of the Ministers working alongside Ian Duncan Smith (work and Pensions) and played an integral role in this Governments welfare reforms that has driven people below the poverty line furthermore, she introduced cuts that had a devastating effect on the disabled therefore there should be no sympathy for this heartless, conniving MP. The Gazette must grow some balls and challenge her and not just be statement provider.
Oh that old myth of poverty. Certainly, there is a case for the disabled suffering under current "reforms" and that must be stopped where it is unfair. Not to mention those relying on food banks whilst welfare payments subsidise other low income families to live above their means - a disgusting scenario that certain types refuse to believe in. (Does this make my views clear by the way? The poorest and most vunerable MUST be helped and as far as possible, helped out of welfare. But the welfare state is still firmly broken and works in all the wrong ways. Labour created a monster and the current government have failed to fix it. I have to make that clear as socialists struggle with rational, reasoned thought and can only see black and white, i.e. evil money making people and poor, vunerable, helpless people)

But, in general, poverty in Basingstoke (for example)? No, not really. Not in the real sense of the word. You only need to open your eyes for that - look around Festival Place on a weekday if you get the chance, it is enlightening!!

Doesn't mean I don't want Maria Miller to get the chop - she deserves it. But her permenantly smug, self satisfied expression would be better suited to Labour, she'd fit beautifully between private & Oxford educated Ed Balls and Oxford educated Yvette Cooper. For example.
[quote][p][bold]popleyrebel2[/bold] wrote: Before her promotion to Secretary of State Maria Miller was one of the Ministers working alongside Ian Duncan Smith (work and Pensions) and played an integral role in this Governments welfare reforms that has driven people below the poverty line furthermore, she introduced cuts that had a devastating effect on the disabled therefore there should be no sympathy for this heartless, conniving MP. The Gazette must grow some balls and challenge her and not just be statement provider.[/p][/quote]Oh that old myth of poverty. Certainly, there is a case for the disabled suffering under current "reforms" and that must be stopped where it is unfair. Not to mention those relying on food banks whilst welfare payments subsidise other low income families to live above their means - a disgusting scenario that certain types refuse to believe in. (Does this make my views clear by the way? The poorest and most vunerable MUST be helped and as far as possible, helped out of welfare. But the welfare state is still firmly broken and works in all the wrong ways. Labour created a monster and the current government have failed to fix it. I have to make that clear as socialists struggle with rational, reasoned thought and can only see black and white, i.e. evil money making people and poor, vunerable, helpless people) But, in general, poverty in Basingstoke (for example)? No, not really. Not in the real sense of the word. You only need to open your eyes for that - look around Festival Place on a weekday if you get the chance, it is enlightening!! Doesn't mean I don't want Maria Miller to get the chop - she deserves it. But her permenantly smug, self satisfied expression would be better suited to Labour, she'd fit beautifully between private & Oxford educated Ed Balls and Oxford educated Yvette Cooper. For example. jonone
  • Score: -4

11:21am Tue 18 Feb 14

The Champion says...

jonone wrote:
popleyrebel2 wrote:
Before her promotion to Secretary of State Maria Miller was one of the Ministers working alongside Ian Duncan Smith (work and Pensions) and played an integral role in this Governments welfare reforms that has driven people below the poverty line furthermore, she introduced cuts that had a devastating effect on the disabled therefore there should be no sympathy for this heartless, conniving MP. The Gazette must grow some balls and challenge her and not just be statement provider.
Oh that old myth of poverty. Certainly, there is a case for the disabled suffering under current "reforms" and that must be stopped where it is unfair. Not to mention those relying on food banks whilst welfare payments subsidise other low income families to live above their means - a disgusting scenario that certain types refuse to believe in. (Does this make my views clear by the way? The poorest and most vunerable MUST be helped and as far as possible, helped out of welfare. But the welfare state is still firmly broken and works in all the wrong ways. Labour created a monster and the current government have failed to fix it. I have to make that clear as socialists struggle with rational, reasoned thought and can only see black and white, i.e. evil money making people and poor, vunerable, helpless people)

But, in general, poverty in Basingstoke (for example)? No, not really. Not in the real sense of the word. You only need to open your eyes for that - look around Festival Place on a weekday if you get the chance, it is enlightening!!

Doesn't mean I don't want Maria Miller to get the chop - she deserves it. But her permenantly smug, self satisfied expression would be better suited to Labour, she'd fit beautifully between private & Oxford educated Ed Balls and Oxford educated Yvette Cooper. For example.
Firstly you may benefit from educating yourself on the difference between abject and relative poverty and the similar societal affects. Secondly, this is not about benefits but the wrongdoing of people in positions of power and responsibility who abuse their position and do not necessarily suffer equality of consequence or condemnation. Thirdly, it is also not about party politics, this has been a cross party problem, both the abuse of position and the creation of the societal inequality we have today.
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]popleyrebel2[/bold] wrote: Before her promotion to Secretary of State Maria Miller was one of the Ministers working alongside Ian Duncan Smith (work and Pensions) and played an integral role in this Governments welfare reforms that has driven people below the poverty line furthermore, she introduced cuts that had a devastating effect on the disabled therefore there should be no sympathy for this heartless, conniving MP. The Gazette must grow some balls and challenge her and not just be statement provider.[/p][/quote]Oh that old myth of poverty. Certainly, there is a case for the disabled suffering under current "reforms" and that must be stopped where it is unfair. Not to mention those relying on food banks whilst welfare payments subsidise other low income families to live above their means - a disgusting scenario that certain types refuse to believe in. (Does this make my views clear by the way? The poorest and most vunerable MUST be helped and as far as possible, helped out of welfare. But the welfare state is still firmly broken and works in all the wrong ways. Labour created a monster and the current government have failed to fix it. I have to make that clear as socialists struggle with rational, reasoned thought and can only see black and white, i.e. evil money making people and poor, vunerable, helpless people) But, in general, poverty in Basingstoke (for example)? No, not really. Not in the real sense of the word. You only need to open your eyes for that - look around Festival Place on a weekday if you get the chance, it is enlightening!! Doesn't mean I don't want Maria Miller to get the chop - she deserves it. But her permenantly smug, self satisfied expression would be better suited to Labour, she'd fit beautifully between private & Oxford educated Ed Balls and Oxford educated Yvette Cooper. For example.[/p][/quote]Firstly you may benefit from educating yourself on the difference between abject and relative poverty and the similar societal affects. Secondly, this is not about benefits but the wrongdoing of people in positions of power and responsibility who abuse their position and do not necessarily suffer equality of consequence or condemnation. Thirdly, it is also not about party politics, this has been a cross party problem, both the abuse of position and the creation of the societal inequality we have today. The Champion
  • Score: 9

11:37am Tue 18 Feb 14

JJ38JJ says...

There are those on the left that will seek to make this a party political debate. To those I would say Miller was democratically elected and politically you are clearly therefore in the minority locally. I would also point out that the majority of MPs actually prosecuted for fraud were actually on the other side. There again there are those that support any or no party who are sick of this type of behaviour by those that seek to bend the rules with nothing more in mind than financial gain. Come the next election I suspect Miller's deeds will affect the constituency's return. But I also suspect her party may take action before then.
There are those on the left that will seek to make this a party political debate. To those I would say Miller was democratically elected and politically you are clearly therefore in the minority locally. I would also point out that the majority of MPs actually prosecuted for fraud were actually on the other side. There again there are those that support any or no party who are sick of this type of behaviour by those that seek to bend the rules with nothing more in mind than financial gain. Come the next election I suspect Miller's deeds will affect the constituency's return. But I also suspect her party may take action before then. JJ38JJ
  • Score: 1

12:59pm Tue 18 Feb 14

popleyrebel2 says...

Jonone,
this is not party political, this about our MP (Maria Miller) milking the system to its full at the same time however, not having any conscience when playing her part in the welfare reforms that has devastated people’s lives throughout the UK.
I finding difficult to understand how you can bring Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper in to this debate, that said, I did mention balls however, that was reference to the Gazette growing some balls and start taking Maria Miller MP on and stop sucking up to her, as I have said many times before.
Jonone, this is not party political, this about our MP (Maria Miller) milking the system to its full at the same time however, not having any conscience when playing her part in the welfare reforms that has devastated people’s lives throughout the UK. I finding difficult to understand how you can bring Ed Balls and Yvette Cooper in to this debate, that said, I did mention balls however, that was reference to the Gazette growing some balls and start taking Maria Miller MP on and stop sucking up to her, as I have said many times before. popleyrebel2
  • Score: 7

12:51pm Wed 19 Feb 14

CineEngineer says...

Criticised !! Maria Miller should be publicly flogged in the town centre. That will wipe the smugness of her face. Miller the Pocket Filler
Criticised !! Maria Miller should be publicly flogged in the town centre. That will wipe the smugness of her face. Miller the Pocket Filler CineEngineer
  • Score: 11

4:46pm Wed 19 Feb 14

popleyrebel2 says...

Before becoming our MP Maria Miller lived in the family home at Wimbledon London, after her election win in Basingstoke she rented a property in Basingstoke.
She rented that property from the former chairman of the Basingstoke Conservative Association Nigel McNair Scott at a £6,000 a year discounted rate and that property became her main residence and the Wimbledon home for many years became her 2nd home.
The Wimbledon home was heavily mortgages, as explained by Town Guard, therefore, there was no financial gain declaring it as her main home as you can’t claim housing benefit on your main home,
at the same time however, there was no financial gain declaring the Basingstoke property as her 2nd home as it was already being subsidised by Tory donor Mr McNair Scott to the tune of £6,000 a year.
Flipping her Wimbledon home to her 2nd home paid financial dividends beyond belief including mortgage interest payments, utilities, and council tax and therefore I believe this to be an elaborate con, milking the system to within £115, the maximum permitted.
Furthermore, it’s no coincidence that she (Maria Miller) flipped her homes again declared her Wimbledon home as her main home only days before the expenses scandal hit the news papers.
Therefore, she flipped and then flipped back, what a flipping disgrace, and that’s putting it politely.
Before becoming our MP Maria Miller lived in the family home at Wimbledon London, after her election win in Basingstoke she rented a property in Basingstoke. She rented that property from the former chairman of the Basingstoke Conservative Association Nigel McNair Scott at a £6,000 a year discounted rate and that property became her main residence and the Wimbledon home for many years became her 2nd home. The Wimbledon home was heavily mortgages, as explained by Town Guard, therefore, there was no financial gain declaring it as her main home as you can’t claim housing benefit on your main home, at the same time however, there was no financial gain declaring the Basingstoke property as her 2nd home as it was already being subsidised by Tory donor Mr McNair Scott to the tune of £6,000 a year. Flipping her Wimbledon home to her 2nd home paid financial dividends beyond belief including mortgage interest payments, utilities, and council tax and therefore I believe this to be an elaborate con, milking the system to within £115, the maximum permitted. Furthermore, it’s no coincidence that she (Maria Miller) flipped her homes again declared her Wimbledon home as her main home only days before the expenses scandal hit the news papers. Therefore, she flipped and then flipped back, what a flipping disgrace, and that’s putting it politely. popleyrebel2
  • Score: 11

6:47pm Wed 19 Feb 14

BasingstokeCouncilSuck says...

This cheat should be shamed every time she shows her face here.
This cheat should be shamed every time she shows her face here. BasingstokeCouncilSuck
  • Score: 8

5:58pm Thu 20 Feb 14

popleyrebel2 says...

Quote from Robert Donnell Dec 2012
“It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children.
Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times” un-quote

At that time I thought the Cllr had drawn the short straw, however on reflection I believe him to be just another utility used by Maria Miller.
Any further comments from the Cllr would be welcome.
Quote from Robert Donnell Dec 2012 “It is a shame that people here on this site are prepared to judge without knowing the full facts. It is also very sad that the press (not the Gazette) have chosen to intrude into Maria’s family and subject her family to the questioning. Maria is rightly private about her family – she entered politics not her parents or children. Knowing Maria and her dedication to service and the people of Basingstoke, I am sure that the independent enquiry will resolve all of this and show that she has abided by the rules and been above board at all times” un-quote At that time I thought the Cllr had drawn the short straw, however on reflection I believe him to be just another utility used by Maria Miller. Any further comments from the Cllr would be welcome. popleyrebel2
  • Score: 2

11:37am Sat 22 Feb 14

Ambivalent says...

I really believe that Maria Miller's behaviour is a disgrace, for all the reasons stated. You cannot have a party that quotes "we are all in it together", but then behaves in a way that clearly illustrates we aren't. Her actions may not be breaking any parliamentary 'rules', but morally it is indefensible and I believe that most people with any conscience would be repulsed by such behaviour.
I had reason to write to Maria Miller a while back, asking some pertinent questions about aspects of welfare reform, particularly housing and homelessness. Her reply did not address the questions asked and indeed, resembled more a 'cut and paste' of a news release promoting the Conservative Party. Does Maria Miller or the Conservative Party represent the people of Basingstoke? I don't believe so, I believe it represents the people they believe will keep her and them in power. Sadly, I've voted for Conservatives most of my life and am ashamed to say I voted for them at the last election, clearly deluded as I thought they'd make a difference. They have, but unfortunately not a positive difference. Never again! I hope this woman either looks to her conscience and resigns (which she won't), is kicked out of the Party (which she won't), or is hounded out at the next election (which just might happen).
I really believe that Maria Miller's behaviour is a disgrace, for all the reasons stated. You cannot have a party that quotes "we are all in it together", but then behaves in a way that clearly illustrates we aren't. Her actions may not be breaking any parliamentary 'rules', but morally it is indefensible and I believe that most people with any conscience would be repulsed by such behaviour. I had reason to write to Maria Miller a while back, asking some pertinent questions about aspects of welfare reform, particularly housing and homelessness. Her reply did not address the questions asked and indeed, resembled more a 'cut and paste' of a news release promoting the Conservative Party. Does Maria Miller or the Conservative Party represent the people of Basingstoke? I don't believe so, I believe it represents the people they believe will keep her and them in power. Sadly, I've voted for Conservatives most of my life and am ashamed to say I voted for them at the last election, clearly deluded as I thought they'd make a difference. They have, but unfortunately not a positive difference. Never again! I hope this woman either looks to her conscience and resigns (which she won't), is kicked out of the Party (which she won't), or is hounded out at the next election (which just might happen). Ambivalent
  • Score: 5

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