Questions raised at Buckskin flooding meeting

Basingstoke Gazette: Kirsty Campbell, of Sperrin Close, makes her point Kirsty Campbell, of Sperrin Close, makes her point

EMOTIONS ran high tonight at a briefing meeting about the flooding in Buckskin.

More than 40 residents turned up to the Ridgeway Community Centre, in Blackdown Close, to hear the latest from Tony Curtis, the chief executive at Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council.

Mr Curtis told them: “The situation is awful for you. The council will be with you however long it lasts.

“You will be supported on site and through the council offices. We will do everything we can to manage the situation. The only thing we cannot do is stop the force of nature. That’s impossible.”

He explained that it was impossible to predict groundwater flooding, which was different he said from flooding from rivers.

He also said the borough council were aware of the flooding on Saturday, and over the course of the weekend tried to contact Thames Water, which maintains the sewers in Buckskin.

But Mr Curtis said the water company claimed it had no responsibility for the flooding, so the borough council brought in tankers to suck up the floodwater on Monday.

While some of the residents praised the council’s response, others were more critical.

Kirsty Campbell, of Sperrin Close, said she was frustrated with the level of response when her house began to flood on Saturday morning.

She said: “The fire brigade were the only ones to respond. The police said it was not their responsibility. The council did not do anything then. I was not even told about this meeting. It’s disgusting.”

Mr Curtis said the council started their emergency procedure on Saturday, mobilising staff to respond over the weekend.

Others complained that flooding is a regular problem in the area around Grampian Way, which can cause mould and structural defects in houses. Some speculated that it the flooding was caused by the River Loddon culvert that runs underneath roads like Sperrin Close and Antrim Close.

Mr Curtis promised a review about drainage when the flooding had cleared.

Luke Bingham, regional director at Sovereign Housing Association, added that tenants who had to leave their homes would be offered more permanent accommodation than hotels and B&Bs.

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11:28pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Marina Morris says...

What exactly did Kirsty Campbell think the police could do about it?
What exactly did Kirsty Campbell think the police could do about it? Marina Morris

10:39am Wed 12 Feb 14

RgPostcode says...

I'm 100% sure the River Loddon doesn't even touch Buckskin... I'm sure the source starts near the McDonalds in the leisure back and goes straight towards the East,
I'm 100% sure the River Loddon doesn't even touch Buckskin... I'm sure the source starts near the McDonalds in the leisure back and goes straight towards the East, RgPostcode

12:12pm Wed 12 Feb 14

jonone says...

Marina Morris wrote:
What exactly did Kirsty Campbell think the police could do about it?
Don't know, thought it was clear that the sustained rainfall is entirely the fault of the Conservatives.
[quote][p][bold]Marina Morris[/bold] wrote: What exactly did Kirsty Campbell think the police could do about it?[/p][/quote]Don't know, thought it was clear that the sustained rainfall is entirely the fault of the Conservatives. jonone

9:30pm Wed 12 Feb 14

deepinsight says...

"I'm 100% sure the River Loddon doesn't even touch Buckskin... I'm sure the source starts near the McDonalds in the leisure back and goes straight towards the East,"

It surprised me too, especially as it is said to be culverted, as it is on it's (now unknown) course under Festival Place...
"I'm 100% sure the River Loddon doesn't even touch Buckskin... I'm sure the source starts near the McDonalds in the leisure back and goes straight towards the East," It surprised me too, especially as it is said to be culverted, as it is on it's (now unknown) course under Festival Place... deepinsight

5:06pm Thu 13 Feb 14

robertspet8 says...

deepinsight wrote:
"I'm 100% sure the River Loddon doesn't even touch Buckskin... I'm sure the source starts near the McDonalds in the leisure back and goes straight towards the East,"

It surprised me too, especially as it is said to be culverted, as it is on it's (now unknown) course under Festival Place...
The River Loddon does not have a fixed source because it is mostly fed from underground water and where this water comes out of the ground depends on the level of the water table. At the moment the water table is very high and the water is coming out of the ground at Buckskin. The watershed is out at Oakley, so in theory the souce can be anywhere this side of there. In practice it is hardly ever any further west than West Ham Farm (the recognised source) and in dry spells it rises under the town centre - I do not remember it ever being dry to the east of the town centre. The Buckskin resisdents are paying the price of planners building on what used to be an area of seasonal springs feeding the Loddon. The culverts used to contain the Loddon under the town centre will only carry the water which has already entered the water course to the west of the town. Any water rising under the town centre will find its own way out to the main channels east of the town.
[quote][p][bold]deepinsight[/bold] wrote: "I'm 100% sure the River Loddon doesn't even touch Buckskin... I'm sure the source starts near the McDonalds in the leisure back and goes straight towards the East," It surprised me too, especially as it is said to be culverted, as it is on it's (now unknown) course under Festival Place...[/p][/quote]The River Loddon does not have a fixed source because it is mostly fed from underground water and where this water comes out of the ground depends on the level of the water table. At the moment the water table is very high and the water is coming out of the ground at Buckskin. The watershed is out at Oakley, so in theory the souce can be anywhere this side of there. In practice it is hardly ever any further west than West Ham Farm (the recognised source) and in dry spells it rises under the town centre - I do not remember it ever being dry to the east of the town centre. The Buckskin resisdents are paying the price of planners building on what used to be an area of seasonal springs feeding the Loddon. The culverts used to contain the Loddon under the town centre will only carry the water which has already entered the water course to the west of the town. Any water rising under the town centre will find its own way out to the main channels east of the town. robertspet8

12:50pm Fri 14 Feb 14

JC76 says...

robertspet8 wrote:
deepinsight wrote:
"I'm 100% sure the River Loddon doesn't even touch Buckskin... I'm sure the source starts near the McDonalds in the leisure back and goes straight towards the East,"

It surprised me too, especially as it is said to be culverted, as it is on it's (now unknown) course under Festival Place...
The River Loddon does not have a fixed source because it is mostly fed from underground water and where this water comes out of the ground depends on the level of the water table. At the moment the water table is very high and the water is coming out of the ground at Buckskin. The watershed is out at Oakley, so in theory the souce can be anywhere this side of there. In practice it is hardly ever any further west than West Ham Farm (the recognised source) and in dry spells it rises under the town centre - I do not remember it ever being dry to the east of the town centre. The Buckskin resisdents are paying the price of planners building on what used to be an area of seasonal springs feeding the Loddon. The culverts used to contain the Loddon under the town centre will only carry the water which has already entered the water course to the west of the town. Any water rising under the town centre will find its own way out to the main channels east of the town.
This is quite true. The river used to rise further west than now in the Buckskin area, in fact where the fire station is now was a large pond.If you read Arthur Atwoods books on Basingstoke's history you'll find out where the river flowed and what has happened in past flooding in the town. These days the millions of gallons pumped out of the chalk near the leisure centre for our water supply might have redeuced the potential for flooding in the town.
[quote][p][bold]robertspet8[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepinsight[/bold] wrote: "I'm 100% sure the River Loddon doesn't even touch Buckskin... I'm sure the source starts near the McDonalds in the leisure back and goes straight towards the East," It surprised me too, especially as it is said to be culverted, as it is on it's (now unknown) course under Festival Place...[/p][/quote]The River Loddon does not have a fixed source because it is mostly fed from underground water and where this water comes out of the ground depends on the level of the water table. At the moment the water table is very high and the water is coming out of the ground at Buckskin. The watershed is out at Oakley, so in theory the souce can be anywhere this side of there. In practice it is hardly ever any further west than West Ham Farm (the recognised source) and in dry spells it rises under the town centre - I do not remember it ever being dry to the east of the town centre. The Buckskin resisdents are paying the price of planners building on what used to be an area of seasonal springs feeding the Loddon. The culverts used to contain the Loddon under the town centre will only carry the water which has already entered the water course to the west of the town. Any water rising under the town centre will find its own way out to the main channels east of the town.[/p][/quote]This is quite true. The river used to rise further west than now in the Buckskin area, in fact where the fire station is now was a large pond.If you read Arthur Atwoods books on Basingstoke's history you'll find out where the river flowed and what has happened in past flooding in the town. These days the millions of gallons pumped out of the chalk near the leisure centre for our water supply might have redeuced the potential for flooding in the town. JC76

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