Recommendation to build 807 new homes in Basingstoke every year

Basingstoke Gazette: Councillor Mark Ruffell Councillor Mark Ruffell

A RECOMMENDATION that 807 new homes should be built every year in Basingstoke and Deane will be put to the borough’s councillors next week.

The higher figure has been put forward following a consultation in September and October, during which a lower figure of 748 new homes was included in the draft Local Plan, the document that will guide planning decisions until 2029.

In response to the consultation a number of respondents questioned whether this figure – totalling 13,464 homes up to 2029 - would be enough to meet the borough’s housing needs in the future.

In particular the assumptions it was based on were challenged, including the housing needed to support high levels of jobs for borough’s successful economy.

The borough council’s approach to migration was also questioned as international migration has recently risen.

Now councillors will be debating two options at the meeting of the Planning and Infrastructure Overview and Scrutiny Committee on Thursday, January 30 – upping the figure to 791 or 807.

The higher figures are the result of additional work by external population forecasting experts - Edge Analytics - based on the different scenarios put forward in the consultation responses.

The recommendation to the committee - which will be making comments to help Cabinet Member for Planning Cllr Mark Ruffell in deciding on the final figure - is that the 807 new homes per year figure is taken forward.

If a higher figure is agreed by councillors, additional sites would have to be found to meet the new housing requirement.

The next step in the process of ‘adopting’ the plan to give it weight in deciding planning applications would be to formally submit it to a planning inspector for independent review.

Planners have highlighted in the report to the meeting that local plans from other areas have been dismissed by planning inspectors at this stage as the housing figures have been branded as too low.

Cllr Mark Ruffell said: “We are keen to get the plan adopted allowing the council to decide the best locations for development working with the borough’s communities. The responses to the consultation have raised issues about the housing figure, as well as some very interesting points suggesting how we can adapt policies and proposals to ensure they are the best way forward for the borough.

“I want to hear again from councillors following the initial consultation responses before making a decision on the housing number, which may, along with other changes, be subject to further consultation.”

For more information see www.basingstoke.gov.uk/go/localplan

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1:09pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Cynical Reader says...

Its high time the suggested new town at Micheldever was given the go-ahead.
Basingstoke is no longer fit for further expansion.
As for houses for Basingstoke workers - how many will be commuters?
Its high time the suggested new town at Micheldever was given the go-ahead. Basingstoke is no longer fit for further expansion. As for houses for Basingstoke workers - how many will be commuters? Cynical Reader
  • Score: 1

1:39pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Buster Preciation says...

Common stories in the local media such as the Gazette are good news because of local investment and the creation of local jobs and bad news because of the lack of affordable housing. Catch 22?
Common stories in the local media such as the Gazette are good news because of local investment and the creation of local jobs and bad news because of the lack of affordable housing. Catch 22? Buster Preciation
  • Score: 1

2:07pm Thu 23 Jan 14

ParanoidAndroid says...

Until the government takes positive steps to control the population, more and more houses will be built, and more and more countryside will vanish. No country can support unlimited growth in the population. But until MPs and Government Ministers are forced to live in modern overcrowded housing estates (which are tomorrow's slums) nothing will be done. If there is such a shortage of housing, why do we continue to import people from other countries?
Until the government takes positive steps to control the population, more and more houses will be built, and more and more countryside will vanish. No country can support unlimited growth in the population. But until MPs and Government Ministers are forced to live in modern overcrowded housing estates (which are tomorrow's slums) nothing will be done. If there is such a shortage of housing, why do we continue to import people from other countries? ParanoidAndroid
  • Score: 5

7:19pm Thu 23 Jan 14

jonone says...

ParanoidAndroid wrote:
Until the government takes positive steps to control the population, more and more houses will be built, and more and more countryside will vanish. No country can support unlimited growth in the population. But until MPs and Government Ministers are forced to live in modern overcrowded housing estates (which are tomorrow's slums) nothing will be done. If there is such a shortage of housing, why do we continue to import people from other countries?
Oh yawn, the old "blame the nasty foreigners" Not seem many immigrants in social housing round here....
[quote][p][bold]ParanoidAndroid[/bold] wrote: Until the government takes positive steps to control the population, more and more houses will be built, and more and more countryside will vanish. No country can support unlimited growth in the population. But until MPs and Government Ministers are forced to live in modern overcrowded housing estates (which are tomorrow's slums) nothing will be done. If there is such a shortage of housing, why do we continue to import people from other countries?[/p][/quote]Oh yawn, the old "blame the nasty foreigners" Not seem many immigrants in social housing round here.... jonone
  • Score: -6

5:15pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Max Headroom says...

Thing is, homes are stupidly overpriced around here at the moment anyway. I'm in a relatively decent job for someone my age, and my wife is on just above minimum wage. We're thankfully able to save a decent amount each month, but for a £170,000 first home we're still looking at many years of saving to get the 15-20% + fees deposit we need, and relying on our parents for help is completely out of the question.

We've decided to put off having a family until after we're able to buy our first home, given that we don't want the constant insecurity of 12-month rental contracts hanging over our heads. As it stands, we won't be having our first child until our early-to-mid 30s, even though we'd like to start now. By the time we do have our deposit together, mind, that £170k price could easily become £230k, pushing our prospects back even further.

Our case is by no means unique, pretty much everyone I know has no hope of buying a property any time soon, prices are completely out of our reach. Anyone in a low-wage job can probably expect to be renting for the rest of their lives.

So we've either got the option of of building new housing, thus increasing stock and lowering prices to more normal levels across the board, or we stop stupid bubble-inflating measures such as Help to Buy, watch the bottom fall out of the market as all the first-time buyers dry up and watch prices sharply come down. Of course, the latter option will probably bring down a couple of banks with it, so no politician would dare do it.

So what other alternatives are available for young people and young families today?
Thing is, homes are stupidly overpriced around here at the moment anyway. I'm in a relatively decent job for someone my age, and my wife is on just above minimum wage. We're thankfully able to save a decent amount each month, but for a £170,000 first home we're still looking at many years of saving to get the 15-20% + fees deposit we need, and relying on our parents for help is completely out of the question. We've decided to put off having a family until after we're able to buy our first home, given that we don't want the constant insecurity of 12-month rental contracts hanging over our heads. As it stands, we won't be having our first child until our early-to-mid 30s, even though we'd like to start now. By the time we do have our deposit together, mind, that £170k price could easily become £230k, pushing our prospects back even further. Our case is by no means unique, pretty much everyone I know has no hope of buying a property any time soon, prices are completely out of our reach. Anyone in a low-wage job can probably expect to be renting for the rest of their lives. So we've either got the option of of building new housing, thus increasing stock and lowering prices to more normal levels across the board, or we stop stupid bubble-inflating measures such as Help to Buy, watch the bottom fall out of the market as all the first-time buyers dry up and watch prices sharply come down. Of course, the latter option will probably bring down a couple of banks with it, so no politician would dare do it. So what other alternatives are available for young people and young families today? Max Headroom
  • Score: 3

7:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

jonone says...

Max Headroom wrote:
Thing is, homes are stupidly overpriced around here at the moment anyway. I'm in a relatively decent job for someone my age, and my wife is on just above minimum wage. We're thankfully able to save a decent amount each month, but for a £170,000 first home we're still looking at many years of saving to get the 15-20% + fees deposit we need, and relying on our parents for help is completely out of the question.

We've decided to put off having a family until after we're able to buy our first home, given that we don't want the constant insecurity of 12-month rental contracts hanging over our heads. As it stands, we won't be having our first child until our early-to-mid 30s, even though we'd like to start now. By the time we do have our deposit together, mind, that £170k price could easily become £230k, pushing our prospects back even further.

Our case is by no means unique, pretty much everyone I know has no hope of buying a property any time soon, prices are completely out of our reach. Anyone in a low-wage job can probably expect to be renting for the rest of their lives.

So we've either got the option of of building new housing, thus increasing stock and lowering prices to more normal levels across the board, or we stop stupid bubble-inflating measures such as Help to Buy, watch the bottom fall out of the market as all the first-time buyers dry up and watch prices sharply come down. Of course, the latter option will probably bring down a couple of banks with it, so no politician would dare do it.

So what other alternatives are available for young people and young families today?
You say more house building increases stock and brings prices down. Yet the new houses opposite the hospital are selling for list prices far higher than any at Marnel Park or Everest Park sold for. And that increase is far higher than alleged house price increases and inflation!

That not withstanding, good to see you putting family off until you can afford it. In fact, if more were capable of that behaviour, the demands on housing, schools and NHS might actually be lower....
[quote][p][bold]Max Headroom[/bold] wrote: Thing is, homes are stupidly overpriced around here at the moment anyway. I'm in a relatively decent job for someone my age, and my wife is on just above minimum wage. We're thankfully able to save a decent amount each month, but for a £170,000 first home we're still looking at many years of saving to get the 15-20% + fees deposit we need, and relying on our parents for help is completely out of the question. We've decided to put off having a family until after we're able to buy our first home, given that we don't want the constant insecurity of 12-month rental contracts hanging over our heads. As it stands, we won't be having our first child until our early-to-mid 30s, even though we'd like to start now. By the time we do have our deposit together, mind, that £170k price could easily become £230k, pushing our prospects back even further. Our case is by no means unique, pretty much everyone I know has no hope of buying a property any time soon, prices are completely out of our reach. Anyone in a low-wage job can probably expect to be renting for the rest of their lives. So we've either got the option of of building new housing, thus increasing stock and lowering prices to more normal levels across the board, or we stop stupid bubble-inflating measures such as Help to Buy, watch the bottom fall out of the market as all the first-time buyers dry up and watch prices sharply come down. Of course, the latter option will probably bring down a couple of banks with it, so no politician would dare do it. So what other alternatives are available for young people and young families today?[/p][/quote]You say more house building increases stock and brings prices down. Yet the new houses opposite the hospital are selling for list prices far higher than any at Marnel Park or Everest Park sold for. And that increase is far higher than alleged house price increases and inflation! That not withstanding, good to see you putting family off until you can afford it. In fact, if more were capable of that behaviour, the demands on housing, schools and NHS might actually be lower.... jonone
  • Score: 7

9:35am Tue 28 Jan 14

laurence86 says...

Cost of living and house prices cannot carry on increasing at the rates they are whilst pay rates sit stagnant, eventually things will even out again. However any country with an ageing population will have a high cost of living. Despite the hype from estate agents, I don’t think that the housing market has exploded back into life. Lots of the houses out there are just not selling; many have been up for a year plus with no sale.
Cost of living and house prices cannot carry on increasing at the rates they are whilst pay rates sit stagnant, eventually things will even out again. However any country with an ageing population will have a high cost of living. Despite the hype from estate agents, I don’t think that the housing market has exploded back into life. Lots of the houses out there are just not selling; many have been up for a year plus with no sale. laurence86
  • Score: 0

11:24am Tue 28 Jan 14

ChinehamIan says...

How about ZERO homes should be built in Basingstoke each year?
I long for the day when I can move and have NO neighbours within a mile in any direction. This area and indeed the entire country is MASSIVLEY over populated. Enough is enough!
How about ZERO homes should be built in Basingstoke each year? I long for the day when I can move and have NO neighbours within a mile in any direction. This area and indeed the entire country is MASSIVLEY over populated. Enough is enough! ChinehamIan
  • Score: -7

12:12pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Best_Name_Ever says...

ChinehamIan wrote:
How about ZERO homes should be built in Basingstoke each year?
I long for the day when I can move and have NO neighbours within a mile in any direction. This area and indeed the entire country is MASSIVLEY over populated. Enough is enough!
I am sure we all long for that day ChinhamIan.
[quote][p][bold]ChinehamIan[/bold] wrote: How about ZERO homes should be built in Basingstoke each year? I long for the day when I can move and have NO neighbours within a mile in any direction. This area and indeed the entire country is MASSIVLEY over populated. Enough is enough![/p][/quote]I am sure we all long for that day ChinhamIan. Best_Name_Ever
  • Score: 5

7:37pm Wed 29 Jan 14

D_Adams says...

Are they going to build new school, doctors, dentist, increase the size of Basingstoke hospital and improve the roads, of course they wont as they don't make the developers the same profits as housing.
Are they going to build new school, doctors, dentist, increase the size of Basingstoke hospital and improve the roads, of course they wont as they don't make the developers the same profits as housing. D_Adams
  • Score: 1

8:15am Thu 30 Jan 14

jonone says...

D_Adams wrote:
Are they going to build new school, doctors, dentist, increase the size of Basingstoke hospital and improve the roads, of course they wont as they don't make the developers the same profits as housing.
Apart from the new school to be built north of Limes Park, new doctor's surgery at Limes Park to replace the temporary facility, new surgery and dentist already built in Popley....
[quote][p][bold]D_Adams[/bold] wrote: Are they going to build new school, doctors, dentist, increase the size of Basingstoke hospital and improve the roads, of course they wont as they don't make the developers the same profits as housing.[/p][/quote]Apart from the new school to be built north of Limes Park, new doctor's surgery at Limes Park to replace the temporary facility, new surgery and dentist already built in Popley.... jonone
  • Score: 1

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