Man fined for failing to hand over ticket at Basingstoke railway station

A MAN from Hartley Wintney has been fined £200 for failing to hand over a train ticket to an inspector.

George Fuller, 27, of Weir Road, committed the offence at Basingstoke railway station on September 28.

The offence was proved in his absence at a hearing at Aldershot Magistrates’ Court. Fuller was also ordered to pay £3.90 compensation, £20 victim surcharge and £140 costs.

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9:34am Thu 2 Jan 14

The BestTrip2011 says...

Good. Railway workers have a tough job having to deal with morons like Mr Fuller.
Good. Railway workers have a tough job having to deal with morons like Mr Fuller. The BestTrip2011

9:57am Thu 2 Jan 14

W Wallace says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Good. Railway workers have a tough job having to deal with morons like Mr Fuller.
Tough how? By hiding away in the cab and not checking tickets for fear of having to justify why the train has arrived late and departing late? Please tell me what is tough about selling tickets and checking tickets?
The ignorance of some of these rail workers, they fail to even advise or apologise for the late running of the trains. I am not saying this is all of them but you get some real miserable buggers..
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: Good. Railway workers have a tough job having to deal with morons like Mr Fuller.[/p][/quote]Tough how? By hiding away in the cab and not checking tickets for fear of having to justify why the train has arrived late and departing late? Please tell me what is tough about selling tickets and checking tickets? The ignorance of some of these rail workers, they fail to even advise or apologise for the late running of the trains. I am not saying this is all of them but you get some real miserable buggers.. W Wallace

10:17am Thu 2 Jan 14

The BestTrip2011 says...

Hang on, don't put words into my mouth. What I said was that they have a tough job dealing with people like this idiot. I've seen first hand the verbal abuse and defiance that staff have to deal with.
Hang on, don't put words into my mouth. What I said was that they have a tough job dealing with people like this idiot. I've seen first hand the verbal abuse and defiance that staff have to deal with. The BestTrip2011

11:55am Thu 2 Jan 14

Buster Preciation says...

£3.90 in compensation? I didn't think it was the job of magistrates to award compensation. I wonder how the amount was worked out? As for the victim surcharge - who is the victim?
£3.90 in compensation? I didn't think it was the job of magistrates to award compensation. I wonder how the amount was worked out? As for the victim surcharge - who is the victim? Buster Preciation

2:56pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Sam_Walker123456 says...

Buster Preciation wrote:
£3.90 in compensation? I didn't think it was the job of magistrates to award compensation. I wonder how the amount was worked out? As for the victim surcharge - who is the victim?
The court has no discretion over the victim surcharge - it is a legal requirement and is related to the severity of the sentence not the harm done to any victim. The money goes into a pot to support various victim support organisations.
The £3.90 compensation was awarded at the discretion of the court, but how they came to this sum beats me - it will surely cost more to administer it is worth!
[quote][p][bold]Buster Preciation[/bold] wrote: £3.90 in compensation? I didn't think it was the job of magistrates to award compensation. I wonder how the amount was worked out? As for the victim surcharge - who is the victim?[/p][/quote]The court has no discretion over the victim surcharge - it is a legal requirement and is related to the severity of the sentence not the harm done to any victim. The money goes into a pot to support various victim support organisations. The £3.90 compensation was awarded at the discretion of the court, but how they came to this sum beats me - it will surely cost more to administer it is worth! Sam_Walker123456

4:40pm Thu 2 Jan 14

jonone says...

Buster Preciation wrote:
£3.90 in compensation? I didn't think it was the job of magistrates to award compensation. I wonder how the amount was worked out? As for the victim surcharge - who is the victim?
It is part of the pathetic slap on the wrist punishments that criminals get. Look at the In The Court section of the Gazette each week, it makes fascinating reading to see the "punishments" meted out. It is no surprise that many repeatedly offend.
[quote][p][bold]Buster Preciation[/bold] wrote: £3.90 in compensation? I didn't think it was the job of magistrates to award compensation. I wonder how the amount was worked out? As for the victim surcharge - who is the victim?[/p][/quote]It is part of the pathetic slap on the wrist punishments that criminals get. Look at the In The Court section of the Gazette each week, it makes fascinating reading to see the "punishments" meted out. It is no surprise that many repeatedly offend. jonone

4:40pm Thu 2 Jan 14

jonone says...

Buster Preciation wrote:
£3.90 in compensation? I didn't think it was the job of magistrates to award compensation. I wonder how the amount was worked out? As for the victim surcharge - who is the victim?
It is part of the pathetic slap on the wrist punishments that criminals get. Look at the In The Court section of the Gazette each week, it makes fascinating reading to see the "punishments" meted out. It is no surprise that many repeatedly offend.
[quote][p][bold]Buster Preciation[/bold] wrote: £3.90 in compensation? I didn't think it was the job of magistrates to award compensation. I wonder how the amount was worked out? As for the victim surcharge - who is the victim?[/p][/quote]It is part of the pathetic slap on the wrist punishments that criminals get. Look at the In The Court section of the Gazette each week, it makes fascinating reading to see the "punishments" meted out. It is no surprise that many repeatedly offend. jonone

5:53pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Folkestone Saint says...

What price ignorance? about £363.90, chump, can southern rail deny him access to it's services too
What price ignorance? about £363.90, chump, can southern rail deny him access to it's services too Folkestone Saint

7:52pm Thu 2 Jan 14

jonone says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
What price ignorance? about £363.90, chump, can southern rail deny him access to it's services too
Ignorance? Why would a train company that doesn't serve Basingstoke ban him??
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: What price ignorance? about £363.90, chump, can southern rail deny him access to it's services too[/p][/quote]Ignorance? Why would a train company that doesn't serve Basingstoke ban him?? jonone

8:41pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Folkestone Saint says...

jonone wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
What price ignorance? about £363.90, chump, can southern rail deny him access to it's services too
Ignorance? Why would a train company that doesn't serve Basingstoke ban him??
It was British rail last time I caught a train from Basingstoke and I couldn't drive then, but that was 1977, still, you cover yourself in glory by TRYING to make me look stupid, a clever person does not need to act that way.
[quote][p][bold]jonone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: What price ignorance? about £363.90, chump, can southern rail deny him access to it's services too[/p][/quote]Ignorance? Why would a train company that doesn't serve Basingstoke ban him??[/p][/quote]It was British rail last time I caught a train from Basingstoke and I couldn't drive then, but that was 1977, still, you cover yourself in glory by TRYING to make me look stupid, a clever person does not need to act that way. Folkestone Saint

2:49pm Sat 4 Jan 14

deepinsight says...

£3.90 - The cost of a single ticket from Hook to Basingstoke in 2013, which I assume is what the offence relates to.

Hook is an un-manned station with ticket machines. There are plenty of warning concerning the perils of boarding a train without having purchased a ticket or obtained a permit to travel.

The first step would normally be a penalty fare (in this case £20) - http://www.southwest
trains.co.uk/penalty
-fares.aspx#121482

It would seem that in this case that option was not exercised and that the matter was taken to court - the reasons for that being unknown by us.

By failing to appear for the hearing at the Magistrates Court the defendant denied himself the opportunity to offer any form of mitigation, or indeed contrition, and left the magistrates able to order Fuller to pay £3.90 compensation (the rail fare) , £20 victim surcharge (the penalty charge) and £140 (legal) costs.

And all for £3.90 ?
£3.90 - The cost of a single ticket from Hook to Basingstoke in 2013, which I assume is what the offence relates to. Hook is an un-manned station with ticket machines. There are plenty of warning concerning the perils of boarding a train without having purchased a ticket or obtained a permit to travel. The first step would normally be a penalty fare (in this case £20) - http://www.southwest trains.co.uk/penalty -fares.aspx#121482 It would seem that in this case that option was not exercised and that the matter was taken to court - the reasons for that being unknown by us. By failing to appear for the hearing at the Magistrates Court the defendant denied himself the opportunity to offer any form of mitigation, or indeed contrition, and left the magistrates able to order Fuller to pay £3.90 compensation (the rail fare) , £20 victim surcharge (the penalty charge) and £140 (legal) costs. And all for £3.90 ? deepinsight

2:33pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Folkestone Saint says...

deepinsight wrote:
£3.90 - The cost of a single ticket from Hook to Basingstoke in 2013, which I assume is what the offence relates to.

Hook is an un-manned station with ticket machines. There are plenty of warning concerning the perils of boarding a train without having purchased a ticket or obtained a permit to travel.

The first step would normally be a penalty fare (in this case £20) - http://www.southwest

trains.co.uk/penalty

-fares.aspx#121482

It would seem that in this case that option was not exercised and that the matter was taken to court - the reasons for that being unknown by us.

By failing to appear for the hearing at the Magistrates Court the defendant denied himself the opportunity to offer any form of mitigation, or indeed contrition, and left the magistrates able to order Fuller to pay £3.90 compensation (the rail fare) , £20 victim surcharge (the penalty charge) and £140 (legal) costs.

And all for £3.90 ?
And a £200 fine
[quote][p][bold]deepinsight[/bold] wrote: £3.90 - The cost of a single ticket from Hook to Basingstoke in 2013, which I assume is what the offence relates to. Hook is an un-manned station with ticket machines. There are plenty of warning concerning the perils of boarding a train without having purchased a ticket or obtained a permit to travel. The first step would normally be a penalty fare (in this case £20) - http://www.southwest trains.co.uk/penalty -fares.aspx#121482 It would seem that in this case that option was not exercised and that the matter was taken to court - the reasons for that being unknown by us. By failing to appear for the hearing at the Magistrates Court the defendant denied himself the opportunity to offer any form of mitigation, or indeed contrition, and left the magistrates able to order Fuller to pay £3.90 compensation (the rail fare) , £20 victim surcharge (the penalty charge) and £140 (legal) costs. And all for £3.90 ?[/p][/quote]And a £200 fine Folkestone Saint

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