How to make your money go further (From Basingstoke Gazette)

Sounds like a prep course for the introduction of Universal Credit, when those that the Tories describe as scroungers and skivers (those on in-work benefits to you and me) are going to be plunged even deeper into abject poverty.

wight1337 wrote:
Sounds like a prep course for the introduction of Universal Credit, when those that the Tories describe as scroungers and skivers (those on in-work benefits to you and me) are going to be plunged even deeper into abject poverty.

At least somebody is taking positive action to help rather than sitting on the sidelines making cynical and bitter comments. I seem to remember KCAC/Media Voice had a similar outlook on life - you aren't related are you?

@Sam_Walker123456 I live in the hope of attaining your bigoted approval

wight1337 wrote:
Sounds like a prep course for the introduction of Universal Credit, when those that the Tories describe as scroungers and skivers (those on in-work benefits to you and me) are going to be plunged even deeper into abject poverty.

I can only speak for those on in-work benefits who I have to live near. Will people be told to cut back on cigarettes, alcohol and, perhaps, prolific breeding? Just a thought - no doubt I am now a bigot for stating only what I see with my own eyes! (I could never be a socialist as I value working your way through life and taking responsibility for your own actions - the things most socialists would rather slash their wrists than do)

Oh, and I have to budget my money every month and all my money is earned by me. Why are people who are supported by benefits not earned by them considered exempt from the responsibility of budgeting? Rhetorical question, because I know I'll not get a grown up sensible answer - something else Socialists are incapable of.

jonone wrote:

wight1337 wrote:
Sounds like a prep course for the introduction of Universal Credit, when those that the Tories describe as scroungers and skivers (those on in-work benefits to you and me) are going to be plunged even deeper into abject poverty.

I can only speak for those on in-work benefits who I have to live near. Will people be told to cut back on cigarettes, alcohol and, perhaps, prolific breeding? Just a thought - no doubt I am now a bigot for stating only what I see with my own eyes! (I could never be a socialist as I value working your way through life and taking responsibility for your own actions - the things most socialists would rather slash their wrists than do)

Perhaps you should move out of the ghetto and reside in the harmonious in the company of other Daily Mail readers...Or maybe they would shun you too.

Odd that you should just happen to know the intimate circumstances and financial arrangements of the neighbours you so clearly harbour a grudge towards. Perhaps they have faith in their fellow man and actually trust you.

wight1337 wrote:
@Sam_Walker123456 I live in the hope of attaining your bigoted approval

The very same sarcastic comment previously employed by KCAC/Mediavoice! It was you who posted the very first comment - all I did was point out that somebody was offering help whereas you were just offering cynical and bitter commentary. It is you who has displayed bigotry - see your comments directed at jonone. However, I find jonone's comments equally as bigotted. The truth probably lies somewhere between the extreme views posted by the two of you.

Perhaps some of these people that are on benefits should cut back on having the lastest mobile phones, 2 cars on their drives, sky t.v. cigerettees, booze, and whatever the lastest gadgets that come on the market.

I support Jonone.

wight1337 wrote:

jonone wrote:

wight1337 wrote: Sounds like a prep course for the introduction of Universal Credit, when those that the Tories describe as scroungers and skivers (those on in-work benefits to you and me) are going to be plunged even deeper into abject poverty.

I can only speak for those on in-work benefits who I have to live near. Will people be told to cut back on cigarettes, alcohol and, perhaps, prolific breeding? Just a thought - no doubt I am now a bigot for stating only what I see with my own eyes! (I could never be a socialist as I value working your way through life and taking responsibility for your own actions - the things most socialists would rather slash their wrists than do)

Perhaps you should move out of the ghetto and reside in the harmonious in the company of other Daily Mail readers...Or maybe they would shun you too. Odd that you should just happen to know the intimate circumstances and financial arrangements of the neighbours you so clearly harbour a grudge towards. Perhaps they have faith in their fellow man and actually trust you.

Typical response expected from a socialist. I have only stated what I know - if these people are financially secure and well off - which I have note inferred any direct knowledge of - then they should not be in taxpayer subsidised social housing. And as for knowing the intimate circumstances, I can again only base my opinions on what I can see with my own eyes (masses of kids outside in summer, the satellite dish overhanging my fence, the occupants standing on their doorsteps smoking every 30 mins, the TVs visible from the public footpath at the rear, to name 3 things based on witnessed fact not judgemental opinion). Perhaps you can explain why it is acceptable for I am my wife to work full time, scrimp and save, count the pennies each month, only have the one child we can afford whilst our taxes subsidise the above?? I know I'll not get a sensible answer mind!! Oh, and I don't read the Daily Mail - presumably being judgmental is fine when it is a lower class no-mark judging upwards, LOL!

Sam_Walker123456 wrote:

wight1337 wrote:
@Sam_Walker123456 I live in the hope of attaining your bigoted approval

The very same sarcastic comment previously employed by KCAC/Mediavoice! It was you who posted the very first comment - all I did was point out that somebody was offering help whereas you were just offering cynical and bitter commentary. It is you who has displayed bigotry - see your comments directed at jonone. However, I find jonone's comments equally as bigotted. The truth probably lies somewhere between the extreme views posted by the two of you.

@ Sam_Walker123456 Everyone other than you is a bigot, I see.

I am new here but apparently running the gauntlet of the resident troll, most forums have one. Strange that the common view is that any comments they disagree with must have been posted by just one person using various identities.

@jonone Given the struggle for survival you describe I am amazed the tax you pay could possibly subsidise all of your neighbours, or that you find the time to spy on them.

wight1337, KCAC/Mediavoice and his various other aliases accused everyone but himself of being a troll. He and all his aliases were eventually barred from this site - unless you know different. A troll is someone who deliberately posts a prevocative comment with the aim of offending and sparking a reaction - doesn't that describe what you did with your above comments? Things are seldom as black and white as you and jonone try to paint them - as I said before the truth lies between your two extreme views of society. I have been out of work and grateful of the benefit safety net and I believe most of my fellow claimants were genuine, but I also know there are too many benefit cheats. However this article was not about any of that - it was just about a help scheme, but you have hijacked it and I have been foolish enough to come along for the ride. Shame on me for falling for it.

@Sam_Walker123456 you are paranoid, the demons are not in the shadows they are in your head. I have never commented on these pages in any name other than this one. Are you moderating these pages? If not stop trying to do so and report my comments, if you really believe you have grounds. All you are doing is stopping people commenting, which is bad for the forum and bad for the advertisers who ultimately fund it.

wight 1337, it is you who is seems to be paranoid - The Gazette reports positive news and you interpret it as an establishment con trick. I apologise for suggesting you were KCAC/Mediavoice in a previous life when I have no evidence other than the coincidence of the similarity of the words and phrases you have used. Also I have not suggested I would report your comments because, although negative and biased, I do not believe they breach the terms of this site. As to moderating these pages, we all have a right to offer judgements - I cannot stop you and you cannot stop me unless we do not abide by the site terms. You are showing more signs of paranoia if you think I can stop people commenting.

I will ignore you in that case as you are little more than a self appointed vigilante more concerned with your own prejudices and practicing your bullying. If you keep trying to pester me I will stop commenting on these pages and inform the Gazette this is due to your harassment making my continued participation untenable.

wight1337 wrote:
I will ignore you in that case as you are little more than a self appointed vigilante more concerned with your own prejudices and practicing your bullying. If you keep trying to pester me I will stop commenting on these pages and inform the Gazette this is due to your harassment making my continued participation untenable.

Ignore me,report me but don't expect me to submit to your bullying threats. As it happens I will be reporting jonone for the offensive comment he directed at you above.

Sam_Walker123456 wrote:

wight1337 wrote: I will ignore you in that case as you are little more than a self appointed vigilante more concerned with your own prejudices and practicing your bullying. If you keep trying to pester me I will stop commenting on these pages and inform the Gazette this is due to your harassment making my continued participation untenable.

Ignore me,report me but don't expect me to submit to your bullying threats. As it happens I will be reporting jonone for the offensive comment he directed at you above.

Oi! that was a very valid comment I made based on the behaviour shown!